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3ball
05-27-2019, 07:35 PM
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freedom of movement, open paint, and hands-off defense:


MJ. 89' ECF:. 29.8 ppg.. 6.5 apg.. 3.7 tov.. 56.1 ts.. 112 ortg.. 13 team 3PA per gm
MJ. 90' ECF:. 32.1 ppg.. 6.3 apg.. 2.8 tov.. 56.6 ts.. 117 ortg.. 14 team 3PA per game
GF 19' ECF:.''. 22.7 ppg.. 5.5 apg.. 4.3 tov.. 51.8 ts.. 100 ortg.. 38 team 3PA per gm


https://media.giphy.com/media/xYooZyhilqRvG/giphy.gif

Dray n Klay
05-27-2019, 07:36 PM
4 rebounds 2 assists

bigkingsfan
05-27-2019, 07:39 PM
Lack of range will do that.

Three point shooting
1989 4/17
1990 6/21

And1AllDay
05-27-2019, 07:39 PM
Which Finals series does LeBron win if he only averages 4 rbs and 2 assists

3ball
05-27-2019, 07:41 PM
4 rebounds 2 assists


^^^ A player can win with that if they're the only player ever to average over 30 in a under 90 pace series

Only MJ did that (97, 98) and Kobe (09)... :bowdown:

So if you combine that kind of goat scoring with goat clutch, leadership, teamwork, and defense, it's 6/6 regardless of rebs and assists

FKAri
05-27-2019, 07:43 PM
When MJ made his move, there was no defender between him and the dotted line other than a limp dicced, crossdresser with medically untreatable ED. Even then he had to double pump. Is this supposed to be impressive you phaggit?

And1AllDay
05-27-2019, 07:54 PM
^^^ A player can win with that if they're the only player ever to average over 30 in a under 90 pace series

Only MJ did that (97, 98) and Kobe (09)... :bowdown:

So if you combine that kind of goat scoring with goat clutch, leadership, teamwork, and defense, it's 6/6 regardless of rebs and assists

Which Finals series does LeBron win if he only averages 4 rbs and 2 assists

3ball
05-27-2019, 08:45 PM
When MJ made his move, there was no defender between him and the dotted line other than a limp dicced, crossdresser with medically untreatable ED. Even then he had to double pump. Is this supposed to be impressive you phaggit?

There's no 3-pt spacing especially on weakside, so defenders stay on the strongside (below)


https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-30-2015/jkrR_v.gif


Otoh, today's ball-handlers face less strongside defenders because weakside spacing draws defenders away from the strongsdes...

They also face open paints when penetrating from the top of the key, while being flanked by spacers on the wings - this is the biggest penetration advantage today's ball-handlers have.. previous era paints were packed when the ball-handler penetrated from the top
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3ball
05-27-2019, 08:55 PM
Which Finals series does LeBron win if he only averages 4 rbs and 2 assists
All of them if he allowed the team to move the ball and get assists rather than just him dribbling and getting assists - ball movement would put better pressure on the opponent and wear them out more, thus blunting THEIR atrack (preventing them from getting comfortable and getting hot)

And also if he had goat clutch and carried MJ's goat scoring load (34 ppg in 82-pace series) and delegated the rebounds to his two 10-rebound bigs (Love, Tristan)

Hope that helps

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
05-27-2019, 08:57 PM
Why are you comparing MJ to Giannis in the first place?

You crazy nut.

3ball
05-27-2019, 09:01 PM
Lack of range will do that.

Three point shooting
1989 4/17
1990 6/21

Rodman knew that mj's jumper was dope, so he falls for the head fake and lets his 2 paint-camping bigs get smashed on:


https://i.makeagif.com/media/8-08-2015/TGZukz.gif


Btw, Kawhi only shot threes at 34% on 5 attempts in these ECF - MJ shot 41% on 4.3 attempts in the 92' and 93' Finals, so he already won by shooting better than Kawhi (MJ also shot 39% on 3.8 att in the 93 PO overall)

stalkerforlife
05-27-2019, 09:04 PM
Rodman knew that mj's jumper was dope, so he falls for the head fake and lets his 2 paint-camping bigs get smashed on:


https://i.makeagif.com/media/8-08-2015/TGZukz.gif


Btw, Kawhi only shot threes at 34% on 5 attempts in these ECF - MJ shot 41% on 4.3 attempts in the 92' and 93' Finals, so he already won by shooting better than Kawhi (MJ also shot 39% on 3.8 att in the 93 PO overall)

Filthy.

Against all time great defenders.

3ball
05-27-2019, 09:06 PM
Why are you comparing MJ to Giannis in the first place?

You crazy nut.



To show that MJ would've destroyed Kawhi


https://i.makeagif.com/media/10-02-2015/Ipxd2k.gif

NBAGOAT
05-27-2019, 09:09 PM
To show that MJ would've destroyed Kawhi


https://i.makeagif.com/media/10-02-2015/Ipxd2k.gif

Impressive mental gymnastics honestly haha, didn

bigkingsfan
05-27-2019, 09:11 PM
Rodman knew that mj's jumper was dope, so he falls for the head fake and lets his 2 paint-camping bigs get smashed on:


https://i.makeagif.com/media/8-08-2015/TGZukz.gif


Btw, Kawhi only shot threes at 34% on 5 attempts in these ECF - MJ shot 41% on 4.3 attempts in the 92' and 93' Finals, so he already won by shooting better than Kawhi (MJ also shot 39% on 3.8 att in the 93 PO overall)
Harden is the GOAT at making defenders falling for pump fakes.

Lowry shot 47% from 3's on 7 attempts, that makes him better than both.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
05-27-2019, 09:11 PM
To show that MJ would've destroyed Kawhi


https://i.makeagif.com/media/10-02-2015/Ipxd2k.gif

That goes without saying.

Nobody with a brain thinks Kawhi is shutting down a Prime Jordan. He couldn't even shutdown Kobe.