Cartels in Mexico

[Vino24]

they are rolling around in tanks and have anti aircraft guns and run the government. When and how do we just shut this shit down? Obviously the US is balls deep in this and handing out weapons like it

[highwhey]

AA guns? :whatever:

ima need to see some pics. cartels can get grenades, maybe even tanks, but AA guns? for what? the military usually rolls up on them and they run with their tails tucked behind their legs. if anything, bazookas are more likely weapons, but AA guns? the logistics of setting up an AA gun doesn't seem like their MO.

[Vino24]

AA guns? :whatever:

ima need to see some pics. cartels can get grenades, maybe even tanks, but AA guns? for what? the military usually rolls up on them and they run with their tails tucked behind their legs. if anything, bazookas are more likely weapons, but AA guns? the logistics of setting up an AA gun doesn't seem like their MO.
This was back in 2009. They have had heavy artillery for a while :oldlol:
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/30217341/ns/world_news-americas/t/anti-aircraft-machine-gun-nets-mexico-arrest/

[highwhey]

This was back in 2009. They have had heavy artillery for a while :oldlol:
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/30217341/ns/world_news-americas/t/anti-aircraft-machine-gun-nets-mexico-arrest/

Mexican authorities arrested a woman guarding an arsenal that included the first anti-aircraft machine gun seized in Mexico,

like i said, not their mo. 10 years ago too.

anyways, it's not your place to ask questions. how about the US government does something to stop the demand? americans are hella thirsty for coke. sounds like america has a personal problem. :confusedshrug:

[Hawker]

like i said, not their mo. 10 years ago too.

anyways, it's not your place to ask questions. how about the US government does something to stop the demand? americans are hella thirsty for coke. sounds like america has a personal problem. :confusedshrug:

Mexicans can't figure out what they're doing in their own country is bad regardless of America's drug problem? That's a cop out brah.

[highwhey]

Mexicans can't figure out what they're doing in their own country is bad regardless of America's drug problem? That's a cop out brah.
the american government declared a war on a drug in the 70's that was failed catastrophically, and it continues to blame the suppliers.


imagine thinking a 50 year war is the fault of suppliers when so many new suppliers pop up after the old ones are removed. lol. you could nuke mexico and some other country would take it's place to supply coke. hell, AMERICA is the biggest supplier of opiates...a NATIONAL crisis. people OD'ing left and right due to opaite abuse, and those that do heroin started on opiates (similar chemistry make up).

[Vino24]

Mexicans can't figure out what they're doing in their own country is bad regardless of America's drug problem? That's a cop out brah.
Agree. Nothing in Mexico is legitimate. Police , military any public light job. There is no professionalism

[highwhey]

Agree. Nothing in Mexico is legitimate. Police , military any public light job. There is no professionalism
:oldlol: your gig is up dude, you just exposed yourself, you've never been.

quit while you're ahead.

[Hawker]

the american government declared a war on a drug in the 70's that was failed catastrophically, and it continues to blame the suppliers.


imagine thinking a 50 year war is the fault of suppliers when so many new suppliers pop up after the old ones are removed. lol. you could nuke mexico and some other country would take it's place to supply coke. hell, AMERICA is the biggest supplier of opiates...a NATIONAL crisis. people OD'ing left and right due to opaite abuse, and those that do heroin started on opiates (similar chemistry make up).

The US shouldn't be blaming the suppliers but Mexicans have free will - they don't have a gun pointed to their head that they must supply drugs for addicted americans. I'm in favor of legalization of weed.

With that said, Mexicans can't blame what's going on with drug cartels in their country because americans want drugs. That's nonsense. The government and people obviously tolerate it otherwise it wouldn't be so rampant.

Opiates is a different subject altogether - they have their place but are over prescribed. Won't deny it's an issue in the US. Oxycodone is an alright pain killer but Tramadol was screwed up. Makes you feel so weird.

As much as Narcos is a good TV show, it just shows how dumb the US government was getting involved in this nonsense - like you said new suppliers pop up.

[Hawker]

Agree. Nothing in Mexico is legitimate. Police , military any public light job. There is no professionalism

It's still a fun place to visit man. Don't be too scared off.

[dunksby]

Isn't Mexico contemplating legalising all drugs?

[Im so nba'd out]

Isn't Mexico contemplating legalising all drugs?
wouldnt do anything.It would have to be legalized every place on earth + for cheap


This thing aint going nowhere sadly and even if it did.Something else would take over as the #1 seller in the black market

[tpols]

the american government declared a war on a drug in the 70's that was failed catastrophically, and it continues to blame the suppliers.


imagine thinking a 50 year war is the fault of suppliers when so many new suppliers pop up after the old ones are removed. lol. you could nuke mexico and some other country would take it's place to supply coke. hell, AMERICA is the biggest supplier of opiates...a NATIONAL crisis. people OD'ing left and right due to opaite abuse, and those that do heroin started on opiates (similar chemistry make up).


Uh...they aren't OD'ing off the pills pancho... They're OD'ing off fentanyl laced heroin which is being trafficked northward from Mexico, with China making the fent.

Build the mfering wall.

[Thorpesaurous]

Joe Rogan is pretty hit or miss for me, even though I generally like him, but this episode from a week or so ago was excellent and on topic. The guest is a guy named Ed Calderon who worked as a Narco Police in Mexico. Really interesting and entertaining listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llhb2ymtsw8&t=1105s

[Patrick Chewing]

Build that ****ing wall. Using drugs and selling drugs is the Devil's business.

[highwhey]

:sleeping Rafael straight chilling rn, DEA is still butthurt about Camarena

[scuzzy]

Uh...they aren't OD'ing off the pills pancho... They're OD'ing off fentanyl laced heroin which is being trafficked northward from Mexico, with China making the fent.

Build the mfering wall.

Not even close, :lol most OD's are prescription/sythetic opiods by overwhelming portion. By quadrupedal (https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/opioid-overdose-deaths-by-type-of-opioid/?currentTimeframe=0&sortModel=%7B%22colId%22:%22Location%22,%22sort%22 :%22asc%22%7D)

Besides you think heroin junkies start of by mainlining tar into thier veins out the gate?

No alcoholics don't decide they want to start slamming a 5th of booze at 8am

It roots like they all do, from a social friendly source in the beginning.

[highwhey]

Not even close, :lol most OD's are prescription/sythetic opiods by overwhelming portion. By quadrupedal (https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/opioid-overdose-deaths-by-type-of-opioid/?currentTimeframe=0&sortModel=%7B%22colId%22:%22Location%22,%22sort%22 :%22asc%22%7D)

Besides you think heroin junkies start of by mainlining tar into thier veins out the gate?

No alcoholics don't decide they want to start slamming a 5th of booze at 8am

It roots like they all do, from a social friendly source in the beginning.
guy is hella uninformed. this nation has literally gone through an opiate crisis bc of doctors over-prescribing opiates.

[highwhey]

anyways, this man made a mockery of the most powerful country in the world. he killed a DEA agent and is still being searched by the US government.

https://i.postimg.cc/wBdSJtmV/Vu0L0ne.gif

[scuzzy]

guy is hella uninformed. this nation has literally gone through an opiate crisis bc of doctors over-prescribing opiates.
and the good dope comes from Afghan poppy, China white, dogfood, #4


East Coast heroin >>


Big Pharma get theirs from places like Turkey, Iran, Pakistan. Hardcore military guarded fields.

[scuzzy]

Panama has to be the funniest since that 70-80's CIA/Noreiga


It's low key become South Beach, Miami of central america


Their currency like Bahama's, is still US dollar


One of the only recent US invasions too bounce back :(

[Hawker]

anyways, this man made a mockery of the most powerful country in the world. he killed a DEA agent and is still being searched by the US government.

https://i.postimg.cc/wBdSJtmV/Vu0L0ne.gif

Damn I didn't know he was let go by Mexico - and then Mexico wanted to arrest him again basically because the US said so. wtf?

Dude what's up with Mexican-american DEA agents though?

[highwhey]

Damn I didn't know he was let go by Mexico - and then Mexico wanted to arrest him again basically because the US said so. wtf?

Dude what's up with Mexican-american DEA agents though?
he's in the top 10 most wanted by the FBI, but Mexico isn't actively looking for him.

in Mexico he's know as the King of Narcos, aka, King of Kings.

Narcos Netflix did him a shame. He's way more charismatic than the show portrayed him as. There's a live interview when he was arrested, he displayed his charisma...what an interesting character.

[scuzzy]

Mexico is killing it in the meth game, for consumers


They brought the US price down to $50-100 an 1/8, it use to do slightly less coke $$$ out here in midwest ($150-$250)


All their gear is perfected homebrew now, that guy on Rogan said it best how their meth precursors have become domestic and don't have to outsource from China


It's too bad heroin and cocaine take so much land, harvest and manpower just to concentrate a few kilos

[TheMan]

Agree. Nothing in Mexico is legitimate. Police , military any public light job. There is no professionalism
The new president is trying to change that, introducing new legislation to make corruption a major crime. He's been saying that corruption and impunity a two big reasons Mexico isn't a much better country than it is currently and he's right. First dude who is actually trying to do something about.

Having said that, all that money pouring into Mexico's cartels from the US insatiable thirst for drugs isn't helping out at all, plus the endless stream of weapons :facepalm

He's actually talking about legalizing drugs to get rid of the criminal element, probrem is that the US is vehemently against that. How about the US don't stick their noses in our internal affairs :confusedshrug:

[egokiller]

Agree. Nothing in Mexico is legitimate. Police , military any public light job. There is no professionalism

Not true, there's global companies like BASF for example that have a location in Mexico and the people there are some of the most processional people I have ever met.

Plus the tacos are good.

[senelcoolidge]

The Cartel owns many democrats.

[Hawker]

The new president is trying to change that, introducing new legislation to make corruption a major crime. He's been saying that corruption and impunity a two big reasons Mexico isn't a much better country than it is currently and he's right. First dude who is actually trying to do something about.

Having said that, all that money pouring into Mexico's cartels from the US insatiable thirst for drugs isn't helping out at all, plus the endless stream of weapons :facepalm

He's actually talking about legalizing drugs to get rid of the criminal element, probrem is that the US is vehemently against that. How about the US don't stick their noses in our internal affairs :confusedshrug:

Good your president is trying to outlaw corruption.

Again, trying to blame the US for cartels is just victimhood. Mexico government would be on the take as well.

Mexico has brought the US into their internal affairs for years - Narcos were american agents last I checked. US should legalize drugs - I'm cool with that.

[highwhey]

Joe Rogan is pretty hit or miss for me, even though I generally like him, but this episode from a week or so ago was excellent and on topic. The guest is a guy named Ed Calderon who worked as a Narco Police in Mexico. Really interesting and entertaining listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llhb2ymtsw8&t=1105s
this was a great episode, watched it last night. he

[highwhey]

Good your president is trying to outlaw corruption.

Again, trying to blame the US for cartels is just victimhood. Mexico government would be on the take as well.

Mexico has brought the US into their internal affairs for years - Narcos were american agents last I checked. US should legalize drugs - I'm cool with that.
both countries share the fault. the US has done zero to curb their drug demand. the war on drugs is a petty war that has been abused to benefit privately owned prisons. pharma companies that pushed doctors to overprescribe opiates are soley responsible for the heroin epidemic. i think it was just weeks ago i read the first headline about a pharma executive being arrested for pushing opiates. incredible it has taken the american government this long. pharma companies are essentially legally operated cartels minus the violence but with a lot of death counts.

i don

[TheMan]

[QUOTE=highwhey]this was a great episode, watched it last night. he

[Vino24]

Plomo o plata...either you get paid good money to look the other way as a cop or you refuse to and try to be the hero and you and your family get targeted by the cartels, who are making billions and importing the most lethal weapons from the US :facepalm Mexicans aren't corrupt by nature, it's the enormous amounts of drug money here that corrupt the police and government officials, and a lot of it is fear based, especially in the lower ranks.

I know Hawker doesn't like me saying this but the US has to share fault in what's going on in Mexico with the cartel violence, the money pouring in here is a result of Americans love affair with drugs...and the US gov. refuses to do something about it. Just like Trump can sit there and blame Mexico for the Central American illegal immigration pouring through our southern border, we can blame them for making the cartels billions of dollars richer...it's a two way street.

Drug addiction south of the border is not anywhere near the problem it is in the US, I'm not a socialogist so I've no clue why the US suffers from drug addiction but if Trump wants us to stop CA illegal immigration and the flow of drugs to the US, the least y'all can do is institute drug rehab programs and also programs to stop kids from ever starting instead of sending them to prisons, they aren't getting to the root of the problem, which is rampant drug use in the general populace.
Americans lack any real hardship or proper upbringing. It starts with the family. How many single mothers do you know?

[highwhey]

Plomo o plata...either you get paid good money to look the other way as a cop or you refuse to and try to be the hero and you and your family get targeted by the cartels, who are making billions and importing the most lethal weapons from the US :facepalm Mexicans aren't corrupt by nature, it's the enormous amounts of drug money here that corrupt the police and government officials, and a lot of it is fear based, especially in the lower ranks.

I know Hawker doesn't like me saying this but the US has to share fault in what's going on in Mexico with the cartel violence, the money pouring in here is a result of Americans love affair with drugs...and the US gov. refuses to do something about it. Just like Trump can sit there and blame Mexico for the Central American illegal immigration pouring through our southern border, we can blame them for making the cartels billions of dollars richer...it's a two way street.

Drug addiction south of the border is not anywhere near the problem it is in the US, I'm not a socialogist so I've no clue why the US suffers from drug addiction but if Trump wants us to stop CA illegal immigration and the flow of drugs to the US, the least y'all can do is institute drug rehab programs and also programs to stop kids from ever starting instead of sending them to prisons, they aren't getting to the root of the problem, which is rampant drug use in the general populace.
the joe rogan guest mentioned how tourist areas are very safe bc the cartels use them to launder money so it's in their best interest to keep it a safe area. he said the majority of the crime that happens there is usually american vs american. i.e if you want to get ride of your wife, what better way than a getaway to cancun and kill her there than blame the cartel for it. sh1t makes so much sense now. of course, americans will deny this.