View Full Version : Why is the media scared of Stephen Curry?
Stephonit
05-29-2019, 01:35 PM
When the media discusses Kawhi Leonard they are willing to say he is the best player in the world even before he wins a title.
When they discuss Stephen Curry though they only put things in terms of him winning a Finals MVP. They avoid stating that winning a title will merely confirm again what he already is: the best player in the world.
Why is the media scared of Stephen Curry?
FKAri
05-29-2019, 01:47 PM
Why would they be scared? It's just disrespect. He's not heavily promoted by the league either for some reason.
tpols
05-29-2019, 02:23 PM
The league favors athleticism over skill, and aren't in favor of the warriors dominance, since parity means more money.
Basically...he's too good and they need to hype the other side in order to get fans to tune in.
My friends who are casuals say they don't like watching anymore because its such an inevitable conclusion.. Silver and the league obviously don't like this sentiment.
Stephonit
05-29-2019, 02:35 PM
The league favors athleticism over skill, and aren't in favor of the warriors dominance, since parity means more money.
Basically...he's too good and they need to hype the other side in order to get fans to tune in.
My friends who are casuals say they don't like watching anymore because its such an inevitable conclusion.. Silver and the league obviously don't like this sentiment.
That's one take and probably true to an extent but something that argues against that conclusion is that they don't seem to mind hyping Durant. Although I guess it could be because Durant is more likely to produce controversy and therefore page views than the more anodyne Curry.
34-24 Footwork
05-29-2019, 02:37 PM
Curry is the most exciting player in basketball since 2014 AND he has a chance to pass LeBron in rings this year.
The media ain't trying to give him anymore props at this point.
But if the Warriors lose, Steph's head will be on the media chopping block. They'll be looking to tear him down and split up the Warriors as a whole.
Stephonit
05-29-2019, 02:45 PM
Curry is the most exciting player in basketball since 2014 AND he has a chance to pass LeBron in rings this year.
The media ain't trying to give him anymore props at this point.
But if the Warriors lose, Steph's head will be on the media chopping block. They'll be looking to tear him down and split up the Warriors as a whole.
But I don't think it is a matter of not giving him anymore props. What I see is an active concerted effort to manage his image and marginalize him as much as possible.
Whenever they talk about him they tend to insert condescending language. The prime example is "best shooter of all-time"
And1AllDay
05-29-2019, 02:50 PM
Have you missed the last four nba finals :oldlol:
tpols
05-29-2019, 02:52 PM
That's one take and probably true to an extent but something that argues against that conclusion is that they don't seem to mind hyping Durant. Although I guess it could be because Durant is more likely to produce controversy and therefore page views than the more anodyne Curry.
They hype Durant because of his otherworldly athleticism and individual ability.
Teamwork doesn't sell... The spurs never sold, how hyped was Tim Duncan compared to similar level players?
This is an entertainment league...
Hey Yo
05-29-2019, 02:53 PM
The league favors athleticism over skill, and aren't in favor of the warriors dominance, since parity means more money.
Basically...he's too good and they need to hype the other side in order to get fans to tune in.
My friends who are casuals say they don't like watching anymore because its such an inevitable conclusion.. Silver and the league obviously don't like this sentiment.
Defense and mid-range shooting is a skill. Steph provides neither and is pretty much a 1 trick pony that's rode KD's coattails the last 3yrs.
NBAGOAT
05-29-2019, 02:54 PM
he plays in a way unfamiliar to other all time greats so there's just some disrespect there. Even on this thread we have people calling what he does not a skill.
Stephonit
05-29-2019, 02:56 PM
Defense and mid-range shooting is a skill. Steph provides neither and is pretty much a 1 trick pony that's rode KD's coattails the last 3yrs.
I get the sense you actually have a head on your shoulders so let's stop with the pretense of being a smart ass. We both know it's the other way around.
tpols
05-29-2019, 03:04 PM
Defense and mid-range shooting is a skill. Steph provides neither and is pretty much a 1 trick pony that's rode KD's coattails the last 3yrs.
Chico your act got old on here a looong time ago...
you've been taking a pounding.
Hey Yo
05-29-2019, 03:12 PM
I get the sense you actually have a head on your shoulders so let's stop with the pretense of being a smart ass. We both know it's the other way around.
It is??
So why the need to beg KD to come to GS to ride Curry's coattails?
From Woj:
"Here's the thing that's interesting about Golden State -- their players have been recruiting Kevin Durant all year. And it goes back to early in the season when the Thunder were struggling. And I don't know if Golden State saw them as a peer; I don't know that they saw them as a threat ... Kevin Durant, just like he was hearing from guys in Boston, Washington, different places -- he was hearing from guys on the Warriors about, 'Hey, you can come help take the pressure off of Steph Curry. We need you.' This is when they were running off win after win after win.
https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/report-warriors-players-recruited-kevin-durant-all-season
Steph's had the pleasure of kicking back and relaxing on offense for the most part since KD's been there, but KD's the one riding Steph's coattails??? GTFO with that non-sense.
imdaman99
05-29-2019, 03:23 PM
Sorry, nothing after 2016 counts. Hurrr durr they don't even have the guy they recruited. But they eliminated their biggest threat.
Sorry, but not sorry. These stacked rings mean little.
MaxPlayer
05-29-2019, 03:28 PM
When the media discusses Kawhi Leonard they are willing to say he is the best player in the world even before he wins a title.
:biggums:
Bronbron23
05-29-2019, 03:29 PM
When the media discusses Kawhi Leonard they are willing to say he is the best player in the world even before he wins a title.
When they discuss Stephen Curry though they only put things in terms of him winning a Finals MVP. They avoid stating that winning a title will merely confirm again what he already is: the best player in the world.
Why is the media scared of Stephen Curry?
Yeah winning the title would have nothing to do with the 3 all star/Hof players he has on his team. Even if kd doesn't play he'll still have 2 of them who are in there prime btw. He's very lucky. How many players in NBA history have had 2-3 Hof's in there primes? Mj never did. Magic never did. Kobe never did. Bird, Duncan and Bron are the only players in recent memory I can think of. All of them coincidentally have multiple chips. If you give any top 5 player in the NBA 2-3 all star/Hof's they'd win titles too. Kawhi only has one and a half, harden had none, Greek has one and a half. Give any of those guys what curry has and they'd beat the warriors easily.
NBAGOAT
05-29-2019, 03:43 PM
Yeah winning the title would have nothing to do with the 3 all star/Hof players he has on his team. Even if kd doesn't play he'll still have 2 of them who are in there prime btw. He's very lucky. How many players in NBA history have had 2-3 Hof's in there primes? Mj never did. Magic never did. Kobe never did. Bird, Duncan and Bron are the only players in recent memory I can think of. All of them coincidentally have multiple chips. If you give any top 5 player in the NBA 2-3 all star/Hof's they'd win titles too. Kawhi only has one and a half, harden had none, Greek has one and a half. Give any of those guys what curry has and they'd beat the warriors easily.
Magic certainly has. Kareem may have been in his 30s but was all-nba lvl til 87. Then there was Wilkes or worthy.
tpols
05-29-2019, 03:44 PM
Yeah winning the title would have nothing to do with the 3 all star/Hof players he has on his team. Even if kd doesn't play he'll still have 2 of them who are in there prime btw. He's very lucky. How many players in NBA history have had 2-3 Hof's in there primes? Mj never did. Magic never did. Kobe never did. Bird, Duncan and Bron are the only players in recent memory I can think of. All of them coincidentally have multiple chips. If you give any top 5 player in the NBA 2-3 all star/Hof's they'd win titles too. Kawhi only has one and a half, harden had none, Greek has one and a half. Give any of those guys what curry has and they'd beat the warriors easily.
Dray was a second round pick.
Klay is a simple all star.
I'm a huge Kobe fan but he played with a guy named shaq. Magic played with KAJ.
Again say it with me. Klay Thompson. Draymond green. Shaquille Oneal. Kareem Abdul Jabbar.
Now put your cap on.
Bronbron23
05-29-2019, 04:01 PM
Dray was a second round pick.
Klay is a simple all star.
I'm a huge Kobe fan but he played with a guy named shaq. Magic played with KAJ.
Again say it with me. Klay Thompson. Draymond green. Shaquille Oneal. Kareem Abdul Jabbar.
Now put your cap on.
What is a simple all star? He's the second best shooter ever and an excellent defender. He's obviously not a Hof now but he will be. Yeah Kobe had Shaq who was a beast so I'll give you that but magic only had a prime Kareem for about 2 years. Either way it's irrelevant the point is steph like the guys you mentioned had a shit ton of help. Who do the other top players in the NBA have?
superduper
05-29-2019, 04:03 PM
Steph Curry offensively anchored one of the greatest teams and dynasties ever created in basketball history with 2nd and 3rd options that literally cannot dribble the basketball.
That's why they're shook OP.
FKAri
05-29-2019, 04:05 PM
Dray was a second round pick.
Klay is a simple all star.
I'm a huge Kobe fan but he played with a guy named shaq. Magic played with KAJ.
Again say it with me. Klay Thompson. Draymond green. Shaquille Oneal. Kareem Abdul Jabbar.
Now put your cap on.
Simplistic analysis. Kinda like saying, Warriors have 6 lottery picks and Raptors have 0. KD, Klay and Curry could all sit out and they'd still be stacked!
Bronbron23
05-29-2019, 04:05 PM
Magic certainly has. Kareem may have been in his 30s but was all-nba lvl til 87. Then there was Wilkes or worthy.
Yeah magic did pretty much. I said he didn't because Wilkes was only an all star maybe two or three times and by the time worthy was all star level Kareem wasnt in his prime but I wouldn't argue magic
Bronbron23
05-29-2019, 04:11 PM
Steph Curry offensively anchored one of the greatest teams and dynasties ever created in basketball history with 2nd and 3rd options that literally cannot dribble the basketball.
That's why they're shook OP.
No he didn't. This is one of the biggest lies ever That team you speak of only won one asterisk chip and choked a 3-1 lead.
Oh and that 2nd and third option that can't dribble and who apparently need Steph blew out hardens rockets without Steph and we're up 2-1 against the blazers before Steph came back. Warriors are obviously better with Steph but they were doing just fine without him.
tpols
05-29-2019, 04:17 PM
Simplistic analysis. Kinda like saying, Warriors have 6 lottery picks and Raptors have 0. KD, Klay and Curry could all sit out and they'd still be stacked!
Not at all...
If draymond green was on the magic he'd be a role player scrub... His talent was maximized by the off ball talents of chef and klay along with golden states high rank culture. He's a tweener headcase anywhere else. (Siakam is a taller better version of him)
Klay...is a simple all star, doesn't even make all NBA, let alone MVP caliber ala what many GOAT level players have had for help.
Ding0 simply squeezed more out of less than anybody ever.
Bronbron23
05-29-2019, 04:24 PM
Not at all...
If draymond green was on the magic he'd be a role player scrub... His talent was maximized by the off ball talents of chef and klay along with golden states high rank culture. He's a tweener headcase anywhere else. (Siakam is a taller better version of him)
Klay...is a simple all star, doesn't even make all NBA, let alone MVP caliber ala what many GOAT level players have had for help.
Ding0 simply squeezed more out of less than anybody ever.
So why did the pre kd warriors have a better record with Klay and no Steph then with Steph and no Klay? Oh and warriors smoked the rockets without Steph in 16 and we're up 2-1 against blazers before Steph came back.
SouBeachTalents
05-29-2019, 04:34 PM
Not at all...
If draymond green was on the magic he'd be a role player scrub... His talent was maximized by the off ball talents of chef and klay along with golden states high rank culture. He's a tweener headcase anywhere else. (Siakam is a taller better version of him)
Klay...is a simple all star, doesn't even make all NBA, let alone MVP caliber ala what many GOAT level players have had for help.
Ding0 simply squeezed more out of less than anybody ever.
Klay's been All-NBA two times
tpols
05-29-2019, 04:43 PM
Klay's been All-NBA two times
Talking this year... I agree he's all NBA in a vacuum, but far worse than guys like Kobe, wade, drexler, etc. players shaq, LeBron, and Hakeems all had as second options.
To win 73 games and make a dynasty out of klay thompson? And a second round pick?
Thats GOAT stuff.
The help argument on chef is hilarious this dude name dropped Kobe and magic never having help like curry...its become a total joke.
34-24 Footwork
05-29-2019, 04:51 PM
Not at all...
If draymond green was on the magic he'd be a role player scrub... His talent was maximized by the off ball talents of chef and klay along with golden states high rank culture. He's a tweener headcase anywhere else. (Siakam is a taller better version of him)
Klay...is a simple all star, doesn't even make all NBA, let alone MVP caliber ala what many GOAT level players have had for help.
Ding0 simply squeezed more out of less than anybody ever.
Spot on analysis. One could argue that Curry even gets the MOST out of other transcendent players like KD, as well.
But we have to give a LOT of credit to the Warriors Upper Management. Taking a chance and drafting all three of those guys was ballsy.
Deciding to keep Curry instead of playing Monta despite his ankle history
Deciding to roll with a young, fat Draymond
Deciding to NOT trade Klay for Love (Not an easy call at the time)
Deciding NOT to keep Marc Jackson and all of his Christian bullshit despite him changing the basketball culture there.
A lot of risky, yet calculated decisions. If any one of these went the other way, the Warriors wouldn't be who they were today. Trading away an injury prone small guard at that time period could've pushed Curry out of the league or into the D-League.
LostCause
05-29-2019, 04:51 PM
Steph provides neither and is pretty much a 1 trick pony that's rode KD's coattails the last 3yrs.
Were you always a complete moron?
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34-24 Footwork
05-29-2019, 04:54 PM
Wow @ this conversation. It's pretty decent.
But whatever you do, you shouldn't use the Blazers as Curry's measuring stick for greatness.
Furthermore, Klay, Dray, Curry, and Iggy aren't a 73-win team. That's just 4 players. That bench was electric at the time.
Bronbron23
05-29-2019, 04:57 PM
Talking this year... I agree he's all NBA in a vacuum, but far worse than guys like Kobe, wade, drexler, etc. players shaq, LeBron, and Hakeems all had as second options.
To win 73 games and make a dynasty out of klay thompson? And a second round pick?
Thats GOAT stuff.
The help argument on chef is hilarious this dude name dropped Kobe and magic never having help like curry...its become a total joke. no one said he didn't have as much help. The point was to highlight how many all star/Hof Steph has. Obviously Kobe is a better second option than Klay or Dray same with pip, Kareem or almost any greats second option. I think it be close but personally I think the lakers and bulls are better than the warriors. The point is the warriors are up there as far as overall talent. That's why without Steph the warriors could still beat the rockets easily and be up 2-1 on Portland.
egokiller
05-29-2019, 04:57 PM
Yeah winning the title would have nothing to do with the 3 all star/Hof players he has on his team. Even if kd doesn't play he'll still have 2 of them who are in there prime btw. He's very lucky. How many players in NBA history have had 2-3 Hof's in there primes? Mj never did. Magic never did. Kobe never did. Bird, Duncan and Bron are the only players in recent memory I can think of. All of them coincidentally have multiple chips. If you give any top 5 player in the NBA 2-3 all star/Hof's they'd win titles too. Kawhi only has one and a half, harden had none, Greek has one and a half. Give any of those guys what curry has and they'd beat the warriors easily.
What Curry has around him is the result of not being a team hopping fool. LeBron should have taken a page out of Curry's book. Maybe he wouldn't be 3/9 if he did. :lol
34-24 Footwork
05-29-2019, 04:59 PM
[QUOTE=LostCause]Were you always a complete moron?
I
Bronbron23
05-29-2019, 05:19 PM
What Curry has around him is the result of not being a team hopping fool. LeBron should have taken a page out of Curry's book. Maybe he wouldn't be 3/9 if he did. :lol
Nah man it's a result of having a better owner who makes better decisions. It's also a result of curry willing to play within a system.
TheCorporation
05-29-2019, 05:29 PM
Defense and mid-range shooting is a skill. Steph provides neither and is pretty much a 1 trick pony that's rode KD's coattails the last 3yrs.
Bang!
carlosincali
05-29-2019, 05:33 PM
It is partly an anti-California thing. Charles Barkley, for example, hates anything California. Maybe his Republican roots are showing.
hold this L
05-29-2019, 05:50 PM
Why would they be scared? It's just disrespect. He's not heavily promoted by the league either for some reason.
This is the truth.
Literally just had one of the greatest series of this decade by any player, and noone in the media wants to mention that he is the best in the world. Best I heard was Cowherd say and change his mind a day later and some other guy add him now as a legitimate top 3 in the world while everyone states that KD is clearly the best. Not only that, but there's several mouth breathing morons around the NBA that argue that Draymond is the most important, the one responsible for their transition defense, number one playmaker, and was better than Steph vs the Blazers in that historic performance. :facepalm
hold this L
05-29-2019, 05:52 PM
Nah man it's a result of having a better owner who makes better decisions. It's also a result of curry willing to play within a system.
Curry has and will always remain as the system you crying bitch made baby. Enjoy watching your hero BronBron come up behind the Chef in rings in a few weeks.
sammichoffate
05-29-2019, 06:12 PM
Because he's not controversial, dude is probably the most humble, selfless superstar ever other than maybe Tim Duncan. He's never once took credit for himself, he's always mentioned the team or coaching staff putting him in good position to win as the reason for why they're so successful.
AirFederer
05-29-2019, 06:55 PM
Have you missed the last four nba finals :oldlol:
3 rangz
What about LeLost6finals? :eek: :( :wtf:
SamuraiSWISH
05-29-2019, 08:29 PM
The league favors athleticism over skill, and aren't in favor of the warriors dominance, since parity means more money.
Basically...he's too good and they need to hype the other side in order to get fans to tune in.
My friends who are casuals say they don't like watching anymore because its such an inevitable conclusion.. Silver and the league obviously don't like this sentiment.
False dynasties bring in money and viewers when you have a ruler of a domain or a team that people need to bring it in order to beat.
80s Celtics
80s Lakers
90s Bulls
00s Lakers
10s Warriors
KD going to a team that literally made things competitively unfair is why there is an extreme loss of viewers. The talent disparity of that team to everyone else for the past 3 years makes shit boring.
Bronbron23
05-29-2019, 08:58 PM
Curry has and will always remain as the system you crying bitch made baby. Enjoy watching your hero BronBron come up behind the Chef in rings in a few weeks.
Right that's why they crushed the rockets in 16 and we're up 2-1 on the blazers without him. That's also why the Steph led warriors had losing record when Klay was out and probably had a losing record when Dray was out.
Hope your ready for another mediocre finals performance from your boy :facepalm
Vragrant
05-30-2019, 03:29 PM
There is a size bias as well I think. Look at MJ/Bron/Wilt/Magic etc. They all look like Gods. It's uncomfortable for the media and current/ex players to crown him. That's why there is such a disconnect between the media and fans when it comes to Steph because Steph looks mortal. That's why casual fans love him.
He is an icon but the media is blind to it
hold this L
05-30-2019, 04:00 PM
Right that's why they crushed the rockets in 16 and we're up 2-1 on the blazers without him. That's also why the Steph led warriors had losing record when Klay was out and probably had a losing record when Dray was out.
Hope your ready for another mediocre finals performance from your boy :facepalm
They are a great team. I was specifically talking about your system comment you clown.
Bronbron23
05-30-2019, 05:59 PM
This is the truth.
Literally just had one of the greatest series of this decade by any player, and noone in the media wants to mention that he is the best in the world. Best I heard was Cowherd say and change his mind a day later and some other guy add him now as a legitimate top 3 in the world while everyone states that KD is clearly the best. Not only that, but there's several mouth breathing morons around the NBA that argue that Draymond is the most important, the one responsible for their transition defense, number one playmaker, and was better than Steph vs the Blazers in that historic performance. :facepalm he dosnt even have the best playoff performance this playoffs. Kawhi against 76rs was better.
MrFonzworth
05-30-2019, 06:01 PM
Because he's old news. Most limelight he's gotten from the press lately has been from his whale of a wife saying that she wasn't satisfied with him.
Nobody wants to hear what the non FMVP has to say.
hold this L
05-30-2019, 06:25 PM
he dosnt even have the best playoff performance this playoffs. Kawhi against 76rs was better.
He has the 3rd highest PPG average in a conference final you retard, but keep melting down.
theaussieguy
05-30-2019, 08:04 PM
It is obvious to me. In an era where certain powers that be promote degeneracy a half white half black man from a very nice family with conservative traditional values trends heavily against the grain.
Degeneracy breeds conflict. Divide and conquer. Pull the people in every direction. Starve them of actual role models.
Bronbron23
05-30-2019, 08:10 PM
He has the 3rd highest PPG average in a conference final you retard, but keep melting down.
It was against the blazers who were missing there second best player. Yeah Steph was sick but kawhi only scored a couple points less against a better team while playing dpoy defence.
Oh btw defence is that thing that you have to play after your offensive possession. It's kind Of important but retarded Steph fans like you try to pretend like it doesn't exist because Steph is kinda bad at it.
Stephonit
06-05-2019, 08:42 AM
The media at it again saying Draymond Green has been better than Curry so far in the series. They scared.
Stephonit
06-06-2019, 04:37 PM
Curry: [scores an efficient 47 points]
Topic: Curry scores 47 in finals game.
Media: Let's talk about LeBron.
Bronbron23
06-06-2019, 04:59 PM
The media at it again saying Draymond Green has been better than Curry so far in the series. They scared.
That's because smart people know that defence is half the battle. They know that greens impact defensively is as much as Steph's impact offensively. Here's something that Im pretty sure you don't understand but kawhi scoring 30 points while playing elite d is just as impactful as curry scoring 40 plus while playing terrible defence.
Curry fans will never understand this concept :facepalm
Stephonit
06-06-2019, 05:14 PM
That's because smart people know that defence is half the battle. They know that greens impact defensively is as much as Steph's impact offensively. Here's something that Im pretty sure you don't understand but kawhi scoring 30 points while playing elite d is just as impactful as curry scoring 40 plus while playing terrible defence.
Curry fans will never understand this concept :facepalm
That's why Curry's plus-minus numbers crush Kawhi's?
Bronbron23
06-06-2019, 05:48 PM
That's why Curry's plus-minus numbers crush Kawhi's?
Plus minus is shit man everyone knows that
Stephonit
06-06-2019, 05:53 PM
Plus minus is shit man everyone knows that
Over a span of years? No. Everyone does not think that. Take whatever flavor of it you want RPM, RAPM, PIPM, etc., Curry leaves Kawhi in the rearview mirror.
Bronbron23
06-06-2019, 05:57 PM
Over a span of years? No. Everyone does not think that. Take whatever flavor of it you want RPM, RAPM, PIPM, etc., Curry leaves Kawhi in the rearview mirror.
I wasn't talking years I'm talking now. Yeah curry has been better than kawhi most of his career because of the points gap. That gap is much closer now plus kawhi plays elite defence. No stats needed really.
hold this L
06-06-2019, 05:58 PM
Over a span of years? No. Everyone does not think that. Take whatever flavor of it you want RPM, RAPM, PIPM, etc., Curry leaves Kawhi in the rearview mirror.
A few things to note
1. You're talking to one of the biggest retards on ish, which is saying something
2. He's been in full melt down mode all year, esp once the PS started because he's afraid Curry may pass his hero in rings.
Bronbron23
06-06-2019, 06:03 PM
A few things to note
1. You're talking to one of the biggest retards on ish, which is saying something
2. He's been in full melt down mode all year, esp once the PS started because he's afraid Curry may pass his hero in rings.
Steph fans calling someone a retarded is hilarious.
And my favorite player is mj dummy. I could care less if he passes Bron in rings or mj for that matter. It's not the serious dummy. I just like giving dumbass Steph fan a reality check
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