It just occured to me that Kawhi

[Andrei89]

Won finals MVP in 2014 and was not an All Star until 2016.

:biggums:

[3ball]

Bran lets role players get MVP... :confusedshrug:

Kawhi was averaging 12 ppg until his coming out party on Lebron

Bran's defense has been overrated for a while now

[Andrei89]

Bran lets role players get MVP... :confusedshrug:

Kawhi was averaging 12 ppg until his coming out party on Lebron

Bran's defense has been overrated for a while now


Lebron Lebron Lebron :lol :lol

[Spurs m8]

Its not that big of a deal...using the all star game as a measurement of anything is silly...its nothing but a popularity contest amongst stupid people

[TheCorporation]

Bran lets role players get MVP... :confusedshrug:

Kawhi was averaging 12 ppg until his coming out party on Lebron

Bran's defense has been overrated for a while now

LeBron

[RRR3]

It was absolute bullshit he didn’t make it in 2015 tbh.

I remember there being very justifiable outrage the corpse of Kobe made it over him.

[tpols]

[QUOTE=RRR3]It was absolute bullshit he didn

[FKAri]

Its not that big of a deal...using the all star game as a measurement of anything is silly...its nothing but a popularity contest amongst stupid people
I'm still mad they changed the rules up just to shaft Zaza. Weak ass move. Silver and them boys can't handle the fans trolling them.

[And1AllDay]

I'm still mad they changed the rules up just to shaft Zaza. Weak ass move. Silver and them boys can't handle the fans trolling them.

That was when they switched to half fans voting and half coaches right?

[RRR3]

Kobe Kobe Kobe.
Except I don’t obsessively post about Kobe. Nice try slugger.

[ArbitraryWater]

he was injured early to start the 2015 season....

he turned it up late that season and the spurs looked like their 14 selfs again.

he definitely wasnt an all star yet in 2014

[3ball]

[QUOTE=RRR3]Except I don

[Vino24]

You obsessively defend lebron.... defending a non-goat, and quite poorly I might add
you talk a lot about a player you don't have in your top 10. LeBron based off just your posting history is at worse 1B to MJ

[And1AllDay]

Bran lets role players get MVP... :confusedshrug:

Kawhi was averaging 12 ppg until his coming out party on Lebron

Bran's defense has been overrated for a while now

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[And1AllDay]

you talk a lot about a player you don't have in your top 10. LeBron based off just your posting history is at worse 1B to MJ

for real this guy has improved brans legacy and hurt mike becos everything is coming out

[3ball]

you talk a lot about a player you don't have in your top 10. LeBron based off just your posting history is at worse 1B to MJ
That's how big the misperception of his ranking is.. he isn't 1b..

Remember - 11' Dirk and 09' Dwight didn't have any superstar teammates - but if Dirk had 3 star teammates/HOF's like Wade/Bosh/Allen, he'd three-peat from 11-13'... Ditto Dwight...

So he might be #10 if we don't consider his team-hopping

Lebron simply stacked the deck to beat Dwight, Dirk, Pierce, Duncan and others that he'd lost to.. that can't be respected or rated highly

[RRR3]

MJ never won a ring as the best player on his team. He just scored, Pippen was easily more impactful.

Insulting to compare that poor man

[3ball]

MJ never won a ring as the best player on his team. He just scored, Pippen was easily more impactful.



Except MJ had equal or greater assists while scoring goat amounts more:



91-93' Playoffs

MJ (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1991-1993-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 34 on 52%.. 6.6 apg.. 2.9 TO.. 31.1 ast%.. 36.1 usg.. 120 ortg.. 29.5 PER
Pip (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1991-1993-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 20 on 47%.. 6.1 apg.. 3.4 TO.. 23.3 ast%.. 24.9 usg.. 109 ortg..19.6 PER


96-98' Playoffs

MJ (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1996-1998-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 31.4 on 45.9%.. 4.1 apg.. 2.3 TO.. 22.3 ast%.. 35.1 usg.. 118 ortg.. 27.3 PER
Pip (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1996-1998-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 17.6 on 40.8%.. 5.0 apg.. 2.7 TO.. 22.0 ast%.. 23.4 usg.. 109 ortg.. 19.0 PER


The goat carry-job..

MJ averaged 10-20 more than his 2nd option in all Finals (1-man show and closer), compared to 2-5 for lebron in his Finals wins (equal scoring teammate that closed)





Insulting to compare that poor man’s DeRozan to LeAllah



DeRozan couldn't hold a candle to Drexler, let alone MJ:


Regular Season

DREXLER:.. 20.4.. 6.1.. 5.6.. 54.7 ts.. 114 ortg.. 21.1 PER.. 0.175 ws/48... 6.0 bpm.. 75.6 vorp
DEROZAN:. 19.9.. 4.3.. 3.4.. 53.6 ts.. 109 ortg.. 17.9 PER.. 0.113 ws/48.. -0.5 bpm.. 10.0 vorp


Playoffs

DREXLER:.. 20.4.. 6.9.. 6.1.. 53.2 ts.. 113 ortg.. 19.7 PER.. 0.134 ws/48... 5.9 bpm.. 11.0 vorp
DEROZAN:. 21.9.. 4.6.. 3.6.. 50.3 ts.. 103 ortg.. 16.7 PER.. 0.052 ws/48.. -1.8 bpm.. 0.1 vorp


MJ's comp was otherworldly - Drexler destroys DeRozan... :bowdown: :bowdown:

[RRR3]

Lol at propping up MJ’s assist hunting. MJ was a notorious statpadder bruh. Remember that infamous incident where he was checking his stats in the middle of the game? Pippen was far better at actually running an offense.

As for Drexler, he would be Torrey Craig in this era.