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3ball
05-31-2019, 08:18 PM
and teammates in general play well next to Kawhi and other stars?

For 17 years, why has the narrative always been that Lebron's teammates don't show up and he needs more help, while other stars have teammates play well and the team plays the hand they're dealt (no help needed)??

bullettooth
05-31-2019, 08:20 PM
The common denominator has always been LeBron, therefor it's him that's the problem.

LeBron ******gers won't admit it though.

bigkingsfan
05-31-2019, 08:24 PM
Memphis
15.7 8.6

Tor Reg 9.1 6.6
Tor Playoffs 9.2 6.1, 43% shooting, career high four 3's a game attempt, spot up shooting.

Bankaii
05-31-2019, 08:27 PM
Memphis
15.7 8.6

Tor Reg 9.1 6.6
Tor Playoffs 9.2 6.1, 43% shooting, career high four 3's a game attempt, spot up shooting.
Anyone?

highwhey
05-31-2019, 08:32 PM
Memphis
15.7 8.6

Tor Reg 9.1 6.6
Tor Playoffs 9.2 6.1, 43% shooting, career high four 3's a game attempt, spot up shooting.
yikes, OP ethered :roll:

ArbitraryWater
05-31-2019, 08:35 PM
but m gasol has dropped off immensely

3ball
05-31-2019, 09:00 PM
Memphis
15.7 8.6

Tor Reg 9.1 6.6
Tor Playoffs 9.2 6.1, 43% shooting, career high four 3's a game attempt, spot up shooting.
Gasol is past his prime, but is still playing 30 mpg in these playoffs and has been a factor

Otoh, R Hood didn't really play in last year's playoffs (but did this year), while Rose was dumped earlier in the 18' season

For 17 years, the narrative has been that Lebron's teammates don't show up and he needs more help,

That's a pathetic legacy (that you always needed more help for 17 yrs)

bigkingsfan
05-31-2019, 09:18 PM
Gasol is past his prime, but is still playing 30 mpg in these playoffs and has been a factor

Otoh, R Hood didn't really play in last year's playoffs (but did this year), while Rose was dumped earlier in the 18' season

For 17 years, the narrative has been that Lebron's teammates don't show up and he needs more help,

That's a pathetic legacy (that you always needed more help for 17 yrs)
Gasol # dropped way more than Hood/Hill. He's a big that takes more 3's than 2's now.

NBAGOAT
05-31-2019, 09:49 PM
your second mistake after overlooking gasol's dropoff in numbers(a lot because he went from a 1st/2nd option to 4th/5th) is thinking rose, hood, or hill are comparable to gasol.

Dray n Klay
05-31-2019, 10:03 PM
Gasol is past his prime, but is still playing 30 mpg in these playoffs and has been a factor

Otoh, R Hood didn't really play in last year's playoffs (but did this year), while Rose was dumped earlier in the 18' season

For 17 years, the narrative has been that Lebron's teammates don't show up and he needs more help,

That's a pathetic legacy (that you always needed more help for 17 yrs)


Why was Kyrie's peak playoff production with LeBron?

FKAri
05-31-2019, 10:07 PM
Why did Kawhi turn 265lbs Gasol into a spot up shooter? Why does Kawhi limit his teammates so drastically?

bullettooth
05-31-2019, 10:20 PM
Why did Kawhi turn 265lbs Gasol into a spot up shooter? Why does Kawhi limit his teammates so drastically?

I thought you only watched games on paper? You didn't see Siakam's numbers?

imdaman99
05-31-2019, 10:26 PM
Wade and Kyrie had their most efficient seasons next to Lebron.

qrich
05-31-2019, 10:40 PM
Memphis
15.7 8.6

Tor Reg 9.1 6.6
Tor Playoffs 9.2 6.1, 43% shooting, career high four 3's a game attempt, spot up shooting.

Memphis:

15.7/8.6/4.7 with 1.1 steals & 1.2 blocks. Shooting 44/76/34 on 12.9 FGA/4.2 3PA in 33.7 Minutes

oRTG 106, dRTG 106, BPM 2.7, ws/48 .104, 54.1 ts

Toronto:

9.1/6.6/3.9 with .9 steals & .9 blocks. Shooting 47/77/44 on 7.2 FGA/2.0 3PA in 27.7 minutes.

oRTG 116, dRTG 104, BPM 3.2, ws/48 .157, 56.5 ts

Playoff Toronto:

9.2/6.1/3.1 with 1.1 steal & 1.3 blocks. Shooting 43/85/41 on 7.5 FGA/3.9 3PA in 31.2 minutes.

oRTG 117, dRTG 101, BPM 5.1, ws/48 .157, 56.3 ts

DocSlam
05-31-2019, 10:53 PM
Wade and Kyrie had their most efficient seasons next to Lebron.
Wade and Ty Lue are the main reasons that D-Rose had a bad year in Cleveland. Lebron's boy Wade took Rose's minutes. And they tried to force a washed up Isaiah Thomas to play minutes too. D-Rose deserved more time on the floor.. Now we finally have a coach. Beilein will be the Cavs best coach in the last 25 years. They have not had a coach this good since Mike Fratello and Lenny Wilkens.

bison
05-31-2019, 10:59 PM
Marc’s career is flying past all colors due to the eye test. What a rejuvenation. Only people who actually watch and enjoy basketball will understand this.

DaHeezy
06-01-2019, 02:41 AM
Ask this question on realgm. I dare you

And1AllDay
06-01-2019, 02:52 AM
Memphis
15.7 8.6

Tor Reg 9.1 6.6
Tor Playoffs 9.2 6.1, 43% shooting, career high four 3's a game attempt, spot up shooting.

Anyone?

And1AllDay
06-01-2019, 02:53 AM
Why did Kawhi turn 265lbs Gasol into a spot up shooter? Why does Kawhi limit his teammates so drastically?

:oldlol: :roll:

And1AllDay
06-01-2019, 02:53 AM
Ask this question on realgm. I dare you

He cant becos hes a banned bish :oldlol: