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Vino24
06-01-2019, 10:39 PM
as sidekicks how many of Ya'll would be crying that they are too stacked and LeBron has too much help?

bullettooth
06-01-2019, 10:42 PM
Remember that time when LeBron had Wade, Bosh and Jesus Shuttlesworth?

Vino24
06-01-2019, 10:45 PM
Remember that time when LeBron had Wade, Bosh and Jesus Shuttlesworth?
and they won two titles :confusedshrug: you were still complaining with 10 other alts

3ball
06-01-2019, 10:45 PM
I wouldn't be

I don't think those guys are great players - they're system players that would underwhelm next to Bron, especially Dray, who would flat-out suck

I remember watching Klay in highschool when he was at Santa Margarita - I didn't notice him - only years later did I realize I'd seen him play.. his brother was actually the main attraction that game, but didn't shoot threes, so no NBA

Vino24
06-01-2019, 10:47 PM
I wouldn't be

I don't think those guys are great players - they're system players that would underwhelm next to Bron, especially Dray, who would flat-out suck

I remember watching Klay in highschool when he was at Santa Margarita - I didn't notice him.. his brother was the main attraction, but didn't shoot threes, so no NBA
Wade played exceptionally well next to Bron (until his body broke down) and he is a ball dominant player. LeBron is a great offensive player and has never had another playmaker/defensive force like that on his team

3ball
06-01-2019, 11:49 PM
and they won two titles :confusedshrug: you were still complaining with 10 other alts
Only 2?

It's impossible for the goat to team up with the next-best player in the league and lose (11')... and then be an underdog (12')... And lose or be an underdog 3 of 4 years.. that's impossible if lebron is the goat.. so he ain't

Similarly, it's impossible for the goat to team up with prime Kyrie and Love but only win 51 games and be massive dogs in 17'.. that's impossible if lebron is the goat.. so he ain't

3ball
06-01-2019, 11:52 PM
Wade played exceptionally well next to Bron (until his body broke down) and he is a ball dominant player. LeBron is a great offensive player and has never had another playmaker/defensive force like that on his team
Wade's stats were below his highs in 2011 and 2012, but still Pippen-level in 13-14

Him and lebron never had great chemistry, so they couldn't generate a juggernaut in Miami (lost or was underdog 3 of 4 years)



and they won two titles :confusedshrug: you were still complaining with 10 other alts
Only 2?

It's impossible for the goat to team up with the next-best player in the league and lose (11')... and then be an underdog (12')... And lose or be an underdog 3 of 4 years.. that's impossible if lebron is the goat.. so he ain't

Similarly, it's impossible for the goat to team up with prime Kyrie and Love but only win 51 games and be massive dogs in 17'.. that's impossible if lebron is the goat.. so he ain't

Dray n Klay
06-02-2019, 12:07 AM
Wade's stats were below his highs in 2011 and 2012, but still Pippen-level in 13-14

Him and lebron never had great chemistry, so they couldn't generate a juggernaut in Miami (lost or was underdog 3 of 4 years)



Only 2?

It's impossible for the goat to team up with the next-best player in the league and lose (11')... and then be an underdog (12')... And lose or be an underdog 3 of 4 years.. that's impossible if lebron is the goat.. so he ain't

Similarly, it's impossible for the goat to team up with prime Kyrie and Love but only win 51 games and be massive dogs in 17'.. that's impossible if lebron is the goat.. so he ain't

When did Pippen do 15ppg for an entire championship run like Wade in 2013? :confusedshrug:

When did Pippen do 15/4/4 on 40% with shit defense like Wade in the 2014 Finals

SamuraiSWISH
06-02-2019, 12:18 AM
When did Pippen do 15ppg for an entire championship run like Wade in 2013? :confusedshrug:

When did Pippen do 15/4/4 on 40% with shit defense like Wade in the 2014 Finals
I know you were probably in your crib in diapers (maybe still, Wheels) when it was going on, and weren

E_Stamkos
06-02-2019, 12:27 AM
Remember that time Golden State drafted Dray, Klay and Steph.

Meticode
06-02-2019, 12:33 AM
...then Dray cried to KD to come to Golden State because he was butthurt.

stalkerforlife
06-02-2019, 12:59 AM
Dray would be Tristan Thompson with Bran.

Klay can shoot anywhere, but would obviously be minimized with Bran because he can't handle like Kyrie or Wade.

TheCorporation
06-02-2019, 01:09 AM
and they won two titles :confusedshrug: you were still complaining with 10 other alts


Shut it down

3ball
06-02-2019, 03:30 AM
.

Heat ORtgN with Wade on floor:. 109.8
Heat ORtg w/out Wade on floor:. ..87.3
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...............Increase in team ORtg:. 22.5 (https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612748/onoffcourt-summary/?Season=2012-13&SeasonType=Playoffs&sort=DIFF_DEF_RATING&dir=1&LastNGames=7)<--- link to NBA.com dara


Heat ORtgN with Lebron on floor:. 106.7
Heat ORtg w/out Lebron on floor:. ..98.8
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.....................Increase in team ORtg:.7.9 (https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612748/onoffcourt-summary/?Season=2012-13&SeasonType=Playoffs&sort=DIFF_DEF_RATING&dir=1&LastNGames=7)


In the 13' Finals, Lebron averaged 16 on 39% thru 3 games, while his 23 on 43% was insufficient thru 6 games and needed Ray to force game 7.. Lebron was also a net negative for this series

3ball
06-02-2019, 03:31 AM
When did Pippen do 15ppg for an entire championship run like Wade in 2013? :confusedshrug:

When did Pippen do 15/4/4 on 40% with shit defense like Wade in the 2014 Finals
The Heat didn't need Wade to do shit until the Finals because the East was weak

but Wade averaged 19 on 55% when they needed it in the Finals - that's pippen's standard, except it's about 10% better efficiency

Also, Wade drove the team's ORtg in the 2013 Finals, as shown in the previous post.. Obviously, Pippen could never DREAM of doing that - Pippen always scored 10-20 less than MJ in the Finals on worse efficiency.. otoh, Wade only scored 5 less than Bron with 10% better efficiency

Finally, Pippen did 15 on 34% for the 96 Finals - that's worse than 15 on 40% like Wade

And show me where lebron won 3 rings with his 2nd option at 17 on 40% like Pip in the 96-98' PO
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bullettooth
06-02-2019, 03:32 AM
and they won two titles :confusedshrug: you were still complaining with 10 other alts

They also lost two.. One of which they set an nba record for greatest margin of loss in history. Until lebron one upped himself a few years later.

Whoops!

superduper
06-02-2019, 04:18 AM
They would be on the trading block for AD within a month, why?

bison
06-02-2019, 04:24 AM
They also lost two.. One of which they set an nba record for greatest margin of loss in history. Until lebron one upped himself a few years later.

Whoops!

Damn.

bison
06-02-2019, 04:24 AM
They would be on the trading block for AD within a month, why?

Damn x2