"Gary Payton made MJ look like Kobe" - Obama

[1987_Lakers]

https://streamable.com/m5r66

Obama taking a shot at Kobe.

[NBAGOAT]

you want a thread with 100+ replies, this is it :oldlol:

[SouBeachTalents]

Yo

:roll:

[bullettooth]

Fart.

[Gus Hemmingway]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO:roll: :roll:



The ultimate disrespect "Kobe-like" in the Finals :lol

[Gus Hemmingway]

Obama just destroyed both the Kobe and Jordan fanbases with a single quote :lol


And he's from Chicago too, so you know he's telling the truth :roll:

[bigkingsfan]

Only time you'll hear those two in a sentence.

[1987_Lakers]

lol

[NBASTATMAN]

Kobe is so disrespected..


Everyone taking a turn shitting on 12BE

[egokiller]

Gary Payton did make MJ take more shots, similar to how Kobe had to take more shots to equal MJ when Payton wasn't on MJ.

If a prime glove covered Kobe, he would have made Kobe look like Ricky Rubio.

Who wouldn't have to take more shots when being covered by the glove if they wanted to maintain their ppg average?

[jstern]

This a huge win for DPOY Gary Payton.

[Big164]

Lmfao

[NBASTATMAN]

This a huge win for DPOY Gary Payton.

hell yea.. He made MJ look like 12BE.. That is a huge two levels beneath THE AIRNESS's usual level.. :roll:

[3ball]

MJ shot well while getting a big 3-0 lead, so Obama is making the same mistake that got Trump elected

He's ignoring what happens when you have a big lead - you let up - just like he did along with the Democratic party after he won re-election in 2012 - they said "Obama got re-elected, so we have a big lead now and can ignore middle America and talk down to them"

Bad judgement... :no:

Obama letting up allowed the opposing party to catch up in 2016, just like MJ letting up let Payton have some success

[FKAri]

MJ shot well while getting a big 3-0 lead, so Obama is making the same mistake that got Trump elected

He's ignoring what happens when you have a big lead - you let up - just like he did along with the Democratic party after he won re-election in 2012 - they said "Obama got re-elected, so we have a big lead now and can ignore middle America and talk down to them"

Bad judgement... :no:

Obama letting up allowed the opposing party to catch up in 2016, just like MJ letting up let Payton have some success
So as we already knew, MJ had no killer instinct. Thanks for clearing that up.
:cheers:

[SouBeachTalents]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/f3bdd16f7586358c3bb0f391ef17c185/tenor.gif

[1987_Lakers]

MJ shot well while getting a big 3-0 lead, so Obama is making the same mistake that got Trump elected

He's ignoring what happens when you have a big lead - you let up - just like he did along with the Democratic party after he won re-election in 2012 - they said "Obama got re-elected, so we have a big lead now and can ignore middle America and talk down to them"

Bad judgement... :no:

Obama letting up allowed the opposing party to catch up in 2016, just like MJ letting up let Payton have some success


Payton wasn't even the primary defender on MJ in the first 3 games. From games 4-6, when Payton was on MJ full time, he locked his ass up.

[bullettooth]

The ultimate disrespect "Kobe-like" in the Finals :lol

LeBron 2011 guarded by JJ Barea.

18ppg.

[3ball]

So as we already knew, MJ had no killer instinct. Thanks for clearing that up.
:cheers:



You don't need killer instinct when ur up 3-0 and the series is over

right before game 4 in the locker room - MJ tells a reporter:



"this is the most relaxed I've ever been.. maybe a 3-0 lead makes you more relaxed"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfAoaAb3Nc0&t=42m32s


It was indeed garbage time and MJ wasn't a stat-padder

[RoseCity07]

This just knocked Kobe out of the top 30:roll: :roll:

[FKAri]

Payton wasn't even the primary defender on MJ in the first 3 games. From games 4-6, when Payton was on MJ full time, he locked his ass up.
You know I initially thought 3ball would've taken Obama's comments as another example of how MJ is above Kobe and counted it as a W. But no. That psycho feels the need to get defensive and considers even this as a slight to the almighty MJ! :oldlol:

[3ball]

You know I initially thought 3ball would've taken Obama's comments as another example of how MJ is above Kobe and counted it as a W. But no. That psycho feels the need to get defensive and considers even this as a slight to the almighty MJ! :oldlol:
Well it's true - MJ let up because you don't need killer instinct when ur up 3-0 and the series is over

right before game 4 in the locker room - MJ tells a reporter:



"this is the most relaxed I've ever been.. maybe a 3-0 lead makes you more relaxed"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfAoaAb3Nc0&t=42m32s


It was indeed garbage time and MJ wasn't a stat-padder

And again - Obama and his party let up after 2012 and got complacent - so he of all people should understand mj's plight

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

This just knocked Kobe out of the top 30:roll: :roll:

Its not a knock on either.

Saying Payton made Jordan look...like another Top 10 great? Means what? Mike was human? :lol

GP played exceptional defense that finals. So credit where its due.

[3ball]

Payton wasn't even the primary defender on MJ in the first 3 games. From games 4-6, when Payton was on MJ full time, he locked his ass up.
Because MJ let up after getting the 3-0 lead

right before game 4 in the locker room - MJ tells a reporter:



"this is the most relaxed I've ever been.. maybe a 3-0 lead makes you more relaxed"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfAoaAb3Nc0&t=42m32s


It was indeed garbage time and MJ wasn't a stat-padder

[1987_Lakers]

Because MJ let up after getting the 3-0 lead

right before game 4 in the locker room - MJ tells a reporter:



"this is the most relaxed I've ever been.. maybe a 3-0 lead makes you more relaxed"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfAoaAb3Nc0&t=42m32s


It was indeed garbage time and MJ wasn't a stat-padder

Jordan was always easy work for Payton.

As a matter in fact, Payton himself says Stockton was tougher to guard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJCwyh0fDGw

:roll:

[Celtics 1825]

Kobe fam stay taking L's :oldlol: :roll:

[NBAGOAT]

You don't need killer instinct when ur up 3-0 and the series is over

right before game 4 in the locker room - MJ tells a reporter:



"this is the most relaxed I've ever been.. maybe a 3-0 lead makes you more relaxed"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfAoaAb3Nc0&t=42m32s


It was indeed garbage time and MJ wasn't a stat-padder

So now finishing off series early is stat padding :lol.

[TheCorporation]

Imagine being compared to Kobe

MJ takes another L

[3ball]

So now finishing off series early is stat padding :lol.
It kinda shows how little offensive help he had that if he wasn't entirely dominant as a scorer, the bulls mostly couldn't win... :confusedshrug:.. :bowdown:

[TheCorporation]

It kinda shows how little offensive help he had that if he wasn't entirely dominant as a scorer, the bulls mostly couldn't win... :confusedshrug:.. :bowdown:

MJ's defense was terrible

Pippen saved him

Period

[Keno]

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

can't make this shit up

[3ball]

MJ's defense was terrible

Pippen saved him

Period
I'll prove you wrong real quick:

Firstly, the Sonics' All-NBA third option (Schrempf) outplayed Pippen

Secondly, MJ held Hawkins to 12 points below his average in Game 6, which was critical because the bulls WON by 12, while everyone else let their man go off (Pippen let Schrempf get 23 on 53%; Harper let Payton get 19 on 70%; Rodman let Kemp get 18/10 on 47%l)

:cheers:

[RRR3]

MJ turned All-Star Bill Cartwright into a scrub.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Well, it

[1987_Lakers]

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]Well, it

[Gus Hemmingway]

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]Well, it

[SamuraiSWISH]

MJ turned All-Star Bill Cartwright into a scrub.
And went 3 for 3 in the Finals with him in the process ... Where as Le3/9 went 2 for 4 with Bosh. And Le3/9 went 1 for 4 with Love. Perennial All Stars though, and future HOFers.

[3ball]

And went 3 for 3 in the Finals with him in the process ... Where as Le3/9 went 2 for 4 with Bosh. And Le3/9 went 1 for 4 with Love. Perennial All Stars though, and future HOFers.
Holy shit

RRR3 buried

[RRR3]

Holy shit

RRR3 buried
Hiding behind others posts because you’re tired of me destroying you in the other thread? Absolutely pathetic.



You have no rebuttal to Cartwright’s shocking decline under MJ ball.

[RRR3]

And went 3 for 3 in the Finals with him in the process ... Where as Le3/9 went 2 for 4 with Bosh. And Le3/9 went 1 for 4 with Love. Perennial All Stars though, and future HOFers.
That post wasn

[34-24 Footwork]

And went 3 for 3 in the Finals with him in the process ... Where as Le3/9 went 2 for 4 with Bosh. And Le3/9 went 1 for 4 with Love. Perennial All Stars though, and future HOFers.


damn. backfired :lol

[bigkingsfan]

you want a thread with 100+ replies, this is it :oldlol:
It's getting there. ISH prime, this board would be crashing.

[dazzer87]

And went 3 for 3 in the Finals with him in the process ... Where as Le3/9 went 2 for 4 with Bosh. And Le3/9 went 1 for 4 with Love. Perennial All Stars though, and future HOFers.
damn Bill has 3 rings..... just like LeGoat.....

[TheCorporation]

[QUOTE=RRR3]Hiding behind others posts because you

[SpaceJammeR]

body bagged:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Uncle Drew]

So as we already knew, MJ had no killer instinct. Thanks for clearing that up.
:cheers:
What? MJ had the ultimate killer instinct. RIP James R. Jordan.

[TheCorporation]

What? MJ had the ultimate killer instinct. RIP James R. Jordan.
:eek: :eek:

[ArbitraryWater]

Yooo :roll: :roll:

[TheCorporation]

Yooo :roll: :roll:


Shit

:roll: :roll:

[Sakkreth]

Obama :bowdown:

[Manny98]

2 Birds one Stone

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[diamenz]

silver standing there like which one is payton again?

[sdot_thadon]

I'll prove you wrong real quick:

Firstly, the Sonics' All-NBA third option (Schrempf) outplayed Pippen

Secondly, MJ held Hawkins to 12 points below his average in Game 6, which was critical because the bulls WON by 12, while everyone else let their man go off (Pippen let Schrempf get 23 on 53%; Harper let Payton get 19 on 70%; Rodman let Kemp get 18/10 on 47%l)

:cheers:
Really 3rd team all nba in 1996?



1st Team
Anfernee Hardaway
Michael Jordan
Karl Malone
Scottie Pippen
David Robinson

2nd Team
Grant Hill
Shawn Kemp
Hakeem Olajuwon
Gary Payton
John Stockton

3rd Team
Charles Barkley
Juwan Howard
Reggie Miller
Shaquille O'Neal
Mitch Richmond


:no: :no: :no:

And before you tell me how he made it the previous season, be careful because then you'll have to admit Pippen was an allstar in 90 the year before 91 that you always harp on.

[SamuraiSWISH]

damn Bill has 3 rings..... just like LeGoat.....
Yea they’re on the same tier on the GOAT scale. Both guys needed 2x HOFers to win their rings.

IE: Jordan / Pippen, Wade / Bosh, and Kyrie / Love.

[NBASTATMAN]

2 Birds one Stone

:roll: :roll: :roll:


:roll: :banana:
:applause:

[NBASTATMAN]

OBAMA WITH THE TAKE DOWN OF KOBE. :banana: :roll: :cheers:

I WONDER IF OBAMA POSTS ON ISH.. ? :rockon:

[scuzzy]

:roll: :roll:

[G0ATbe]

Bron fam wins again:(

[LAmbruh]

TWO BIRDS, ONE BRICK :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[FKAri]

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]Yea they

[aj1987]

Kobe turds... are you guys ok?


Yea they’re on the same tier on the GOAT scale. Both guys needed 2x HOFers to win their rings.

IE: Jordan / Pippen, Wade / Bosh, and Kyrie / Love.
I mean, this dude literally defended MJ's dick size. Let that sink in.

[fiddy]

B. Hussein Obama irrelevant in and out of office.

[NBASTATMAN]

B. Hussein Obama irrelevant in and out of office.


NO BODY PUTTING RESPEKT ON KOBE'S NAME.. :roll: :banana: :djparty :party:

[ImKobe]

Obama's a Bulls' fan so obviously he's an insecure MJ stan who still has to throw shade at Kobe.

[Phoenix]

I love how people throw around Payton's name on this shitty forum like he's not on the short list of greatest perimeter defenders ever.

[Gus Hemmingway]

I love how people throw around Payton's name on this shitty forum like he's not on the short list of greatest perimeter defenders ever.


He

[LAmbruh]

I love how people throw around Payton's name on this shitty forum like he's not on the short list of greatest perimeter defenders ever.
what a challenge it must have been to guard the perimeter when your routine competition can't scratch iron outside 18 feet

:yaohappy:

[Phoenix]

Right on command, the dumbass alt brigade chimes in :rolleyes: Let's see who rolls up next...

[TheCorporation]

what a challenge it must have been to guard the perimeter when your routine competition can't scratch iron outside 18 feet

:yaohappy:

[QUOTE=Gus Hemmingway]He

[riseagainst]

:roll:

[SamuraiSWISH]

Obama's a Bulls' fan so obviously he's an insecure MJ stan who still has to throw shade at Kobe.
MJ fans are facts only no narrative or delusion. That

[Gus Hemmingway]

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]MJ fans are facts only no narrative or delusion. That

[paksat]

wtf does obama even know about ANYTHING?

why the black community idealizes this community organizer is beyond me

just a puppet for the people that have real control, nothing more

[TheMan]

Lol, 3ball stop being so defensive bruh :lol

After the Bulls went up 3-0, the Bulls AS A TEAM let their foot off the gas, they knew it was over...

And the Glove is one of the GOAT defensive perimeter players ever, he did a good job on a relaxed MJ, it is what it is, Bulls still closed it out without going 7 games :oldlol:

Chill my dude :lol

[TheMan]

I love how people throw around Payton's name on this shitty forum like he's not on the short list of greatest perimeter defenders ever.
They're ISH low IQs, wouldn't expect anything different.

[FKAri]

Lol, 3ball stop being so defensive bruh :lol

After the Bulls went up 3-0, the Bulls AS A TEAM let their foot off the gas, they knew it was over...

And the Glove is one of the GOAT defensive perimeter players ever, he did a good job on a relaxed MJ, it is what it is, Bulls still closed it out without going 7 games :oldlol:

Chill my dude :lol
...

You know I initially thought 3ball would've taken Obama's comments as another example of how MJ is above Kobe and counted it as a W. But no. That psycho feels the need to get defensive and considers even this as a slight to the almighty MJ! :oldlol:

[TheMan]

He’s definitely on the “Short” list, no question :lol
I can't remember if the Glove is taller or shorter than JJ Barea :confusedshrug:

[Manny98]

I love how people throw around Payton's name on this shitty forum like he's not on the short list of greatest perimeter defenders ever.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Phoenix]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

https://aliabdaal.com/content/images/2019/01/zheng-hong-chua-731785-unsplash-min.jpg

Hop back to it, shitstain98.

[TheMan]

:roll: :roll: :roll:
You don't know shit if you didn't know the Glove was a great perrimeter defender :roll:

[Manny98]

You don't know shit if you didn't know the Glove was a great perrimeter defender :roll:
He's good but not close to the greatest

[paksat]

He's good but not close to the greatest

Not even close to L3bron ofc right? :lol


































































:roll:

[superduper]

"He's good" :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

I guarantee you he thinks Bran is a better defender when it's literally not even remotely close.

[ArbitraryWater]

"He's good" :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

I guarantee you he thinks Bran is a better defender when it's literally not even remotely close.

Prime LeBron was easily a better defender.


But lets not deflect here.


Kobe got ripped apart :eek:

[Manny98]

"He's good" :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

I guarantee you he thinks Bran is a better defender when it's literally not even remotely close.
Can Gary Payton guard 1-5?

[NBASTATMAN]

KOBE STANS TRYING TO DEFLECT OBAMA 'S ROASTING OF KOBE'S BRICK BALL..


THEY ARE ALL MELTING.. :banana: :applause: :djparty :party:

[LAmbruh]

"Gary Payton made MJ look like Kobe" - Obama

HOLY SHIT! :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[NBASTATMAN]

BUMP:roll:

[3ball]

Wait a minute.. A relaxed Jordan was still Kobe against Payton?

:bowdown:

Obama with the low-key MJ praise.. :pimp:

[NBASTATMAN]

Wait a minute.. A relaxed Jordan was still Kobe against Payton?

:bowdown:

Obama with the low-key MJ praise.. :pimp:


:roll: BEING KOBE IN THE FINALS IS NOT PRAISE , :roll: :banana:

[paksat]

Can Gary Payton guard 1-5?

br0n can't even guard anyone 1-5 in the first place

who won Mvp? oh right iggy, the guy br0n should have been on full time and SHOULD have locked down

who won Mvp? Oh right KD who made br0n look like steve nash on D

[RRR3]

Paktass is always completely incensed when he feels his loverboy MJ has been slighted.

Can just imagine him sitting in his Space Jam PJs, throwing his laptop off his MJ-themed bed in a fit of rage.

[Manny98]

br0n can't even guard anyone 1-5 in the first place

who won Mvp? oh right iggy, the guy br0n should have been on full time and SHOULD have locked down

who won Mvp? Oh right KD who made br0n look like steve nash on D
1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkm3LVYhInM

2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0C3el_99Kw

3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVd71pGalng

4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r6pMIvervA

5.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV3O94yv4vc



1 to 5... :applause:

[ILLsmak]

That's another plus for Stockton. Gp raved about him and you know he had plenty of exp v him.

Gp can't check mj let's be real but he's one of the best defenders of all time. He's a different type. His body isn't right for him to bother mj but he did great considering. But him saying Stockton gave him more trouble is meaningful. Dudes saying he was mad at mj. Dafaq would he be mad at mj for?

-Smak

[paksat]

1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkm3LVYhInM

2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0C3el_99Kw

3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVd71pGalng

4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r6pMIvervA

5.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV3O94yv4vc



1 to 5... :applause:

damn got me

found some 2 minute clips of james locking down top 3 GOAT's like pau gasol when he was dropping 12 ppg

:lol

[HoopologyPhD]

Obama makes Jimmy Carter look like George Washington.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Paktass is always completely incensed when he feels his loverboy MJ has been slighted.

Can just imagine him sitting in his Space Jam PJs, throwing his laptop off his MJ-themed bed in a fit of rage.
You do realize LeBron James wears space jam pajamas right?

He wears number 23. He signed with Nike. And he

[sdot_thadon]

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]You do realize LeBron James wears space jam pajamas right?

He wears number 23. He signed with Nike. And he

[sd3035]

That comment just dropped Kobe from 12th to 14th

[Vino24]

i imagine a trouser research specialist like yourself would know for sure......
:roll: :roll:

[paksat]

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]You do realize LeBron James wears space jam pajamas right?

He wears number 23. He signed with Nike. And he

[superduper]

damn got me

found some 2 minute clips of james locking down top 3 GOAT's like pau gasol when he was dropping 12 ppg

:lol

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Bro please don't make fun of Pau.

I believe he has an AMAZING W/L in the first round as the first option in his career. Would you know what that is by any chance? :eek:

[1987_Lakers]

damn got me

found some 2 minute clips of james locking down top 3 GOAT's like pau gasol when he was dropping 12 ppg

:lol

2012 LeBron was a defensive beast, he could absolutely guard every position on the floor.

[3ball]

2012 LeBron was a defensive beast, he could absolutely guard every position on the floor.
He can't guard Dirk or Duncan

Let alone centers

And gives up 4 fmvp's to wings

Fraud

[RRR3]

He can't guard Dirk or Duncan

Let alone centers

And gives up 4 fmvp's to wings

Fraud
You

[1987_Lakers]

He can't guard Dirk or Duncan

Let alone centers

And gives up 4 fmvp's to wings

Fraud

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdYrAv-EIwk

This right here is why a peak LeBron was a better defensive player than peak Jordan. Not only could he guard multiple positions, but he provided solid rim protection, something MJ couldn't do.

I watched the '91 Finals a few years back and the Bulls actually put Jordan on Divac, poor Jordan didn't have a chance. Divac torched his ass.

[3ball]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdYrAv-EIwk

This right here is why a peak LeBron was a better defensive player than peak Jordan. Not only could he guard multiple positions, but he provided solid rim protection, something MJ couldn't do.

I watched the '91 Finals a few years back and the Bulls actually put Jordan on Divac, poor Jordan didn't have a chance. Divac torched his ass.
Exactly - MJ did spot duty on bigs like Divac and Barkley just like Lebron, and got torched just like Lebron against guys like David West, Dirk, whoever

So MJ guarded all 5 positions just like lebron... See - it's a bullshit narrative - neither guy guards all 5 positions realistically.. people simply make the argument for lebron because he's taller

And only lebron let's role players and stars get fmvp and go bananas in the Finals.. lebron was a bad defender since 14', and before 09' - so most of his career... Nowhere near goat perimeter defender mj
.

[1987_Lakers]

Exactly - MJ did spot duty on bigs like Divac and Barkley just like Lebron, and got torched just like Lebron against guys like David West, Dirk, whoever

So MJ guarded all 5 positions just like lebron... See - it's a bullshit narrative - neither guy guards all 5 positions realistically.. people simply make the argument for lebron because he's taller

And only lebron let's role players and stars get fmvp and go bananas in the Finals.. lebron was a bad defender since 14', and before 09' - so most of his career... Nowhere near goat perimeter defender mj
.

LeBron has actually guarded All-Star caliber big men with success, can't say the same for MJ. LeBron was taller and stronger than MJ so of course he is going to be a better post defender.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV3O94yv4vc&t=

Here he is shutting down Pau Gasol who was still in his prime. You really think MJ would be capable of shutting a skilled big man like that? :oldlol:

And we all know what LeBron has done to guards like Derrick Rose in his MVP year and other all-star caliber PGs. LeBron at his peak was a more versatile and better rim protector than Jordan, it isn't even debatable.

[aj1987]

Bro please don't make fun of Pau.

I believe he has an AMAZING W/L in the first round as the first option in his career. Would you know what that is by any chance? :eek:
What's Kobe's record in the PO's or heck, in the RS as well without Pau/Kobe, superdumbass?


i imagine a trouser research specialist like yourself would know for sure......
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:



br0n can't even guard anyone 1-5 in the first place

who won Mvp? oh right iggy, the guy br0n should have been on full time and SHOULD have locked down

who won Mvp? Oh right KD who made br0n look like steve nash on D
If LeBron guarded and shut down Iggy and Curry or Klay went the **** off, what do you think you idiots would be spamming?

[BigTicket]

Obama with the deep basketball knowledge :applause:

[LAmbruh]

BUMP :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[SwayDizzle]

Peak Kobe was a greater scorer than MJ, arguably the best scorer of all time. Kobe would have murked Payton.

[aj1987]

Peak Kobe was a greater scorer than MJ, arguably the best scorer of all time. Kobe would have murked Payton.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[nayte]

Payton and mj can't play state of Origin. End thread

[LAmbruh]

:roll: :roll: :roll:
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[pauk]

Well its true, i mean GP made Jordan be a lesser version of his best self.... still great but not GOAT version of himself.... and that version is Kobe, a lesser Jordan clone... doing the same stuff, less efficiently...

Unless you think Kobe was as talented/had the overall bball ability of Jordan... which is absurd... Obama is correct...

[ImKobe]

Well its true, i mean GP made Jordan be a lesser version of his best self.... still great but not GOAT version of himself.... and that version is Kobe, a lesser Jordan clone... doing the same stuff, less efficiently...

Unless you think Kobe was as talented/had the overall bball ability of Jordan...

https://a.espncdn.com/nba/playoffs2001/2001/0527/1205474.html

Phil Jackson in 2001


"Kobe's become the floor leader of a basketball team that was kind of looking for that nature of a player, who could not only be a scorer, but also be a playmaker or consistently make big plays at critical times," Jackson said. "So it was very important for Kobe to step into that role that he was envisioned at. I've always held the bar up very high for Kobe, and he's not only reached that bar, but he's jumping over the top of it right now.
"And I think it's the best that I've ever seen a player of mine play with an overall court game. I'm asking him to do so much, and he's accomplishing it."

Not saying he's greater than MJ, but Phil did say that Kobe had the better overall court game so :confusedshrug: .

[aj1987]

https://a.espncdn.com/nba/playoffs2001/2001/0527/1205474.html

Phil Jackson in 2001



Not saying he's greater than MJ, but Phil did say that Kobe had the better overall court game so :confusedshrug: .
Phil also said Kobe was a dog shot defender. :roll: :roll:

[paksat]

we'll just ignore that mj was a few years away from retirement going up against a prime glove..

[ImKobe]

[QUOTE=aj1987]Phil also said Kobe was a dog shot defender. :roll: :roll:

[aj1987]

So you say he was consistent from 00-04, yet use Phil's quote from 2004? And didn't Phil come out later & admit that the rape case at the time clouded his judgement about Kobe, which was around the same time he said those things about his defense?

That's the only time Phil ever dogged Kobe and I guess he got over it once it was proven that the whore's story didn't add up.
How shook are you that PJ called Brick a dog shit defender?

[FKAri]

How shook are you that PJ called Brick a dog shit defender?
Interesting to note: that's the exact quote from Phil Jackson's book, "Kobrick's a dog shit defender".

[SouBeachTalents]

Peak Kobe was a greater scorer than MJ, arguably the best scorer of all time. Kobe would have murked Payton.
Nah, there's a reason why when someone struggles in the Finals it's considered Kobe-esque

[ImKobe]

Nah, there's a reason why when someone struggles in the Finals it's considered Kobe-esque

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDwJPY-Nneg

look at how the defenses are guarding him in the post.

MJ wasn't consistently seeing that in his era.

[superduper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDwJPY-Nneg

look at how the defenses are guarding him in the post.

MJ wasn't consistently seeing that in his era.

Look at that first clip LMFAO.

If anyone can show me even ONE TIME Bran being tripled like that I'll admit he's the GOAT.

[tpols]

I thought Gary Payton was a great defender...

How the hell did he make mj look better?

:biggums:

[scuzzy]

yikes :oldlol: :roll:

[bigkingsfan]

Look at that first clip LMFAO.

If anyone can show me even ONE TIME Bran being tripled like that I'll admit he's the GOAT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7hhF_z0xyY

[aj1987]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7hhF_z0xyY
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

I was about to post the same video. Not only was he tripled, it was against the Spurs in the Finals. A team who apparently left him on an island. :roll:

[scuzzy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7hhF_z0xyY
ouch :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Manny98]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7hhF_z0xyY
Yikes :roll: :roll: :roll:

Time to admit that LeBron is the GOAT superduper

[NBASTATMAN]

Nah, there's a reason why when someone struggles in the Finals it's considered Kobe-esque


FROM NOW ON any player that struggles in the NBA FINALS will be labeled having a KOBE-esque performance.. :roll: :banana:

[LAmbruh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7hhF_z0xyY
LMAO!

Notice the immediate laser cross court pass to the open man

Trying to trap Lebron in doubles/triples is a recipe for disaster, precision dime to the open shooter for a high efficient bucket :applause:


toss a couple scrubs at Kobe and he just chucks clanking iron


meanwhile Pau 1v3 Pierce, KG, Sheed...


https://i.postimg.cc/pr6stdkw/ezgif-1-ae222d86ab.gif


:bowdown: :bowdown:

[superduper]

So he gets collapsed on when he's literally right UNDER the net, 1 foot away from it max, and the claim is he got tripled in the post.

That isn't remotely similar to being tripled in the high post as soon as you receive the ball.

Nope.. try again

[FKAri]

LMAO!

Notice the immediate laser cross court pass to the open man

Trying to trap Lebron in doubles/triples is a recipe for disaster, precision dime to the open shooter for a high efficient bucket :applause:


toss a couple scrubs at Kobe and he just chucks clanking iron


meanwhile Pau 1v3 Pierce, KG, Sheed...


https://i.postimg.cc/pr6stdkw/ezgif-1-ae222d86ab.gif


:bowdown: :bowdown:
If Kobe wasn't such a shit shooter he could've spaced the floor better for Pau :facepalm

[ImKobe]

If Kobe wasn't such a shit shooter he could've spaced the floor better for Pau :facepalm

Or if Pau had any awareness, it's a wide open three for his team :facepalm he shot it like there was no time on the shot clock.

[bigkingsfan]

Or if Pau had any awareness, it's a wide open three for his team :facepalm he shot it like there was no time on the shot clock.
He was aware, his teammate was shooting 6/24.

[FKAri]

He was aware, his teammate was shooting 6/24.
Not just that. As the Alpha he took it upon himself to put his team over the top.

[Wally450]

So he gets collapsed on when he's literally right UNDER the net, 1 foot away from it max, and the claim is he got tripled in the post.

That isn't remotely similar to being tripled in the high post as soon as you receive the ball.

Nope.. try again

What a ****ing loser. Gets called out on his claim, then proceeds to say it isn't a triple team. You don't get collapsed on while backing down in the post. That's called getting triple teamed.

[SouBeachTalents]

He was aware, his teammate was shooting 6/24.

Not just that. As the Alpha he took it upon himself to put his team over the top.
Truth :applause:

[ImKobe]

So he gets collapsed on when he's literally right UNDER the net, 1 foot away from it max, and the claim is he got tripled in the post.

That isn't remotely similar to being tripled in the high post as soon as you receive the ball.

Nope.. try again

These guys are clueless lmao, Lebron gets single coverage until he's in the paint :facepalm Kobe gets doubled off the ball and tripled outside the paint.

The video I posted had guys triple-teaming Kobe on the entry pass in the second clip, quite different from the defense Lebron saw in the Finals. Teams were fine with Lebron shooting from where he caught the ball but they wouldn't even let Kobe shoot a contested fadeaway.

Lebron got tripled trying to attack the rim, quite different from what happened in the Kobe clip.

[SwayDizzle]

So many trolls in this thread. Let me remind yall what Kobe-esque actually was. Draining clutch buckets on the reg. Mister ‘4th quarter’. Mister ‘get me buckets’. Arguably best perimeter defender the world has seen when he was locked in. MJ is the GOAT, he is peak Kobe that sustained that level for longer. It’s a wash between peak Kobe and peak MJ. Payton wouldn’t be able to stop either during their primes.

[Bankaii]

[QUOTE=SwayDizzle]So many trolls in this thread. Let me remind yall what Kobe-esque actually was. Draining clutch buckets on the reg. Mister

[FKAri]

[QUOTE=SwayDizzle]Mister

[superduper]

What a ****ing loser. Gets called out on his claim, then proceeds to say it isn't a triple team. You don't get collapsed on while backing down in the post. That's called getting triple teamed.

When did I say it isn't a triple team wtf? :oldlol:

If you cant realize the difference between getting tripled as soon as you get the ball in the high post as opposed to being collapsed on when youre literally right under the net then there's nothing more to discuss.

[Phoenix]

[QUOTE=SwayDizzle]So many trolls in this thread. Let me remind yall what Kobe-esque actually was. Draining clutch buckets on the reg. Mister

[superduper]

These guys are clueless lmao, Lebron gets single coverage until he's in the paint :facepalm Kobe gets doubled off the ball and tripled outside the paint.

The video I posted had guys triple-teaming Kobe on the entry pass in the second clip, quite different from the defense Lebron saw in the Finals. Teams were fine with Lebron shooting from where he caught the ball but they wouldn't even let Kobe shoot a contested fadeaway.

Lebron got tripled trying to attack the rim, quite different from what happened in the Kobe clip.

Bro if it's not in a boxscore format they can't comprehend it. You either talk to them with HUR DURR PER VORP DBPM or else they won't understand it.

[ImKobe]

Are you guys able to make a point without going to the furthest extremes possible?

No one's scoring on Kobe when he goes Mamba Mode.

http://lakerholicz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/kobe-face.jpg

[Phoenix]

No one's scoring on Kobe when he goes Mamba Mode.

http://lakerholicz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/kobe-face.jpg

I wasn't speaking to his scoring. I was speaking to the comment about being arguably the GOAT defender when locked in, which I figured bolding made clear enough.

[ImKobe]

I wasn't speaking to his scoring. I was speaking to the comment about being arguably the GOAT defender when locked in, which I figured bolding made clear enough.

And I said NO ONE'S SCORING ON KOBE.

[superduper]

I find it so funny how Bran stans constantly see the need to twist reality in order to keep their boy relevant:

-Calling free throws and shots that arent at all game winners... game winners
-Claiming "tripled in the post" when Bran is literally directly under the net. Since when is the restricted area the post? :oldlol:
-Calling 6'4 dudes 6'1 (blatantly lying)

[Phoenix]

And I said NO ONE'S SCORING ON KOBE.

So the same comment applies to you, are you guys capable of making a point without going to the furthest extremes possible?!

[LAmbruh]

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/lakersdunk.gif

[IllegalD]

Well its true, i mean GP made Jordan be a lesser version of his best self.... still great but not GOAT version of himself.... and that version is Kobe, a lesser Jordan clone... doing the same stuff, less efficiently...

Unless you think Kobe was as talented/had the overall bball ability of Jordan... which is absurd... Obama is correct...


I still remember when you were having a little b*tch meltdown when the Cavs were down 1-3 how "WHAAAAAAAAA unfair it is that LeBron has to go up against the Warriors and is expected to win."

One LeBron bitchass lobbied Draymond suspension and an unfortunate Bogut injury later and now you're thumping your chest out talking all brolic.

:roll:

Dude probably loses sleep at night knowing that his hero is two bailout shots away from being 1-6 in the Finals. :lebroncry: :dancin :lol

[Manny98]

[QUOTE=SwayDizzle]So many trolls in this thread. Let me remind yall what Kobe-esque actually was. Draining clutch buckets on the reg. Mister

[Manny98]

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/lakersdunk.gif
:bowdown: :bowdown:

[Manny98]

No one's scoring on Kobe when he goes Mamba Mode.

http://lakerholicz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/kobe-face.jpg
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Bankaii]

Kobetards have resorted to straight up making shit up:oldlol:
Kobe is dropping in the ATG rankings fast:(

[superduper]

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/lakersdunk.gif

DAMN!!

Anyone know his W/L in the playoffs as the first option of his team when he was on the Grizz/when Kobe was injured?

Judging from this play, it must be more than zero wins, right?

:eek: :eek:

[superduper]

Kobetards have resorted to straight up making shit up:oldlol:


That irony :roll:

[Bankaii]

That irony :roll:
What have I made up about Kobe?

[LAmbruh]

DAMN!!

Anyone know his W/L in the playoffs as the first option of his team when he was on the Grizz/when Kobe was injured?

Judging from this play, it must be more than zero wins, right?

:eek: :eek:

05 made the playoffs, Kobe didn't
14 made the playoffs, Kobe didn't
15 made the playoffs, Kobe didn't
16 made the playoffs, Kobe didn't


35 playoff games :applause:


anything else? :lol

[TheMan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdYrAv-EIwk

This right here is why a peak LeBron was a better defensive player than peak Jordan. Not only could he guard multiple positions, but he provided solid rim protection, something MJ couldn't do.

I watched the '91 Finals a few years back and the Bulls actually put Jordan on Divac, poor Jordan didn't have a chance. Divac torched his ass.
You're a moron lol

Guarding Roy Hibbett a few possessions shouldn't count as guarding C's LMAO

Hibbert was trash yet he looked like prime KAJ a few games vs LeBron...just imagine LeBron on Ewing, Robinson, Shaq or the Dream, dude has no chance but keep telling yourself he could guard all 5 positions just because he got on old Duncan a few times, lol

[sdot_thadon]

Kobe stans out here sounding like greek mythology now. You guys are the proof of why Kobe's top 10 place is so questionable. Kobe outpaces any other legend to play this game in myth and he only stopped playing a few years back. You guys were literally making up tall tales as his career was still going. No wonder stats are your kryptonite, lies hate the truth.

[Bankaii]

You're a moron lol

Guarding Roy Hibbett a few possessions shouldn't count as guarding C's LMAO

Hibbert Is trash yet he looked like prime KAJ a few games vs LeBron...just imagine LeBron on Ewing, Robinson, Shaq or the Dream, dude has no chance but keep telling yourself he could guard all 5 positions just because he got on old Duncan a few times, lol
Couple things...

First, Bosh was the primary defender when Hibbert was going off, not Lebron.

Second, since when is guarding ATG centers the standard for guarding 5s? Mutombo got shit on by Shaq, guess that means he’s not a real defender, right?

[superduper]

05 made the playoffs, Kobe didn't
14 made the playoffs, Kobe didn't
15 made the playoffs, Kobe didn't
16 made the playoffs, Kobe didn't


35 playoff games :applause:


anything else? :lol

Why are you deflecting and not answering the question...

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[sdot_thadon]

You're a moron lol

Guarding Roy Hibbett a few possessions shouldn't count as guarding C's LMAO

Hibbert was trash yet he looked like prime KAJ a few games vs LeBron...just imagine LeBron on Ewing, Robinson, Shaq or the Dream, dude has no chance but keep telling yourself he could guard all 5 positions just because he got on old Duncan a few times, lol
You're a moron if you think it makes any kind of sense to put your most important offensive player, whos a perimeter guy on centers just to prove something already shown to people like yourself. Lebron was able to hold his own at any position, but obviously it didn't ever make much sense for much more than spot duty.

[scuzzy]

Kobe stans resorting to Chamberlain-like bedtime stories about their childhood idol


LOL "yall were too young to remember Kobe", "Mr 4th quarter"


:yaohappy:

[Gus Hemmingway]

05 made the playoffs, Kobe didn't
14 made the playoffs, Kobe didn't
15 made the playoffs, Kobe didn't
16 made the playoffs, Kobe didn't


35 playoff games :applause:


anything else? :lol
:eek:

[Manny98]

These BrickBe stans are a joke :facepalm

[SouBeachTalents]

So many trolls in this thread. Let me remind yall what Kobe-esque actually was. Draining clutch buckets on the reg. Mister ‘4th quarter’. Mister ‘get me buckets’. Arguably best perimeter defender the world has seen when he was locked in. MJ is the GOAT, he is peak Kobe that sustained that level for longer. It’s a wash between peak Kobe and peak MJ. Payton wouldn’t be able to stop either during their primes.
Managed to be wrong on every single point, no easy task. Kobe-esque :applause:

[paksat]

I wasn't speaking to his scoring. I was speaking to the comment about being arguably the GOAT defender when locked in, which I figured bolding made clear enough.

lmfao old man jordan in the 98 all star game was laughing at how easy it was to score on young kobe

go watch the highlights, kobe has no chance peak vs peak

[IllegalD]

lmfao old man jordan in the 98 all star game was laughing at how easy it was to score on young kobe

go watch the highlights, kobe has no chance peak vs peak


Look at you talking all brolic about a grown man scoring on a teenager.

:roll:

[paksat]

kobes an overrated defender, but br0n don't even belong in the same sentence as defense

why didn't he lock dirk up every second back in 2011?

why wasn't he on duncan 24/7?

did he have to guard jj and jason terry or something? :roll:

this is just dumb

[paksat]

Look at you talking all brolic about a grown man scoring on a teenager.

:roll:

that teenager lit the all star game up :roll:

But anyway:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkXxkrDmvs

Is there another "GOAT" in history with lowlights like these?

[305Baller]

Obama knows whats up.

[Gus Hemmingway]

Look at you talking all brolic about a grown man scoring on a teenager.

:roll:

Kinda like how you

[SpaceJam2]

05 made the playoffs, Kobe didn't
14 made the playoffs, Kobe didn't
15 made the playoffs, Kobe didn't
16 made the playoffs, Kobe didn't


35 playoff games :applause:


anything else? :lol

Nice work, I'll pile on some more to add extra spice

https://i.postimg.cc/Jnd16J6V/Bron-gw-post.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/QtTcRFL4/FB_IMG_1528921326607.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/tJDL7fpj/most_FMVP.jpg


https://i.postimg.cc/7Z1L7QkR/tenor.gif

[Mr Feeny]

kobes an overrated defender, but br0n don't even belong in the same sentence as defense

why didn't he lock dirk up every second back in 2011?

why wasn't he on duncan 24/7?

did he have to guard jj and jason terry or something? :roll:

this is just dumb

Neither was an all time great defender, but Lebron peaked at a higher level than Kobe defensively, in my opinion. At no point was Kobe a better defender than lebron was from 2009-2013 (he fell of significantly after that).

[aj1987]

So he gets collapsed on when he's literally right UNDER the net, 1 foot away from it max, and the claim is he got tripled in the post.

That isn't remotely similar to being tripled in the high post as soon as you receive the ball.

Nope.. try again
Please go play on a freeway, you miserable piece of shit. :cheers:


These guys are clueless lmao, Lebron gets single coverage until he's in the paint :facepalm Kobe gets doubled off the ball and tripled outside the paint.

The video I posted had guys triple-teaming Kobe on the entry pass in the second clip, quite different from the defense Lebron saw in the Finals. Teams were fine with Lebron shooting from where he caught the ball but they wouldn't even let Kobe shoot a contested fadeaway.

Lebron got tripled trying to attack the rim, quite different from what happened in the Kobe clip.
Yeah, LeBron is a GOAT level passer. Brick shot less than 40% on jumpshots. Dude was a cancerous ball hog. The dictionary has a picture of his next to the word as well.

You do realize that the your lover was almost always horrific in the Finals, right? Dude was a glorified roleplayer who just took a shit ton of shots. Replace him with Stackhouse and he replicates the results on those stacked AF team.


kobes an overrated defender, but br0n don't even belong in the same sentence as defense
At their peaks, LeBron was a better defender than dad killer.


why wasn't he on duncan 24/7?
Because he was guarding another player? If he guarded player A through out a series and player B went OFF, you little ***** would be he crying about how LeBron didn't guard player B.


did he have to guard jj and jason terry or something? :roll:
Not everyone has the luxury of having a Pippen, Rodman, Grant, Harper, etc..


this is just dumb
Yeah, you should quit ISH for good. This is just embarrassing.

[TheMan]

Not everyone has the luxury of having a Pippen, Rodman, Grant, Harper, etc..

So we just not gon' use context, are we? Not gonna mention Harper was basically a defensive specialist role player by the time he joined the Bulls, not much of an offensive contributor (check his playoff avgs), same for Rodman, he was a black hole on offense, plus these guys were past their prime. Exactly how many All Stars do these guys have other than Pippen playing alongside MJ? What you just did I can easily do, fukk context...

Not everyone has the luxury of having a Shaq, Wallace, Haslem, Battier, Chandler etc

[bigkingsfan]

So we just not gon' use context, are we? Not gonna mention Harper was basically a defensive specialist role player by the time he joined the Bulls, not much of an offensive contributor (check his playoff avgs), same for Rodman, he was a black hole on offense, plus these guys were past their prime. Exactly how many All Stars do these guys have other than Pippen playing alongside MJ? What you just did I can easily do, fukk context...

Not everyone has the luxury of having a Shaq, Wallace, Haslem, Battier, Chandler etc
Someone doesn't know what that means.

[RRR3]

So we just not gon' use context, are we? Not gonna mention Harper was basically a defensive specialist role player by the time he joined the Bulls, not much of an offensive contributor (check his playoff avgs), same for Rodman, he was a black hole on offense, plus these guys were past their prime. Exactly how many All Stars do these guys have other than Pippen playing alongside MJ? What you just did I can easily do, fukk context...

Not everyone has the luxury of having a Shaq, Wallace, Haslem, Battier, Chandler etc
Harper averaged 20.1/6.1/4.6/1.9/0.7 the year before joining the Bulls.


Chandler doe.

[Doranku]

Harper averaged 20.1/6.1/4.6/1.9/0.7 the year before joining the Bulls.


Chandler doe.

Shaq averaged 18/8 on 61% shooting the year before joining the Cavs.

[SwayDizzle]

No one's scoring on Kobe when he goes Mamba Mode.

http://lakerholicz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/kobe-face.jpg
sup g :cheers: :cheers:

[NBAGOAT]

Harper averaged 20.1/6.1/4.6/1.9/0.7 the year before joining the Bulls.


Chandler doe.

Harper played a year without mj most of the year however not the best example.

[SwayDizzle]

Kobe stans resorting to Chamberlain-like bedtime stories about their childhood idol


LOL "yall were too young to remember Kobe", "Mr 4th quarter"


:yaohappy:
:roll: :roll: :roll: you liked dat sh it ey?

[NBASTATMAN]

Obama knows whats up.
:cheers: :applause:

[RRR3]

Shaq averaged 18/8 on 61% shooting the year before joining the Cavs.
He played like 7 less MPG on the Cavs.

[SwayDizzle]

Neither was an all time great defender, but Lebron peaked at a higher level than Kobe defensively, in my opinion. At no point was Kobe a better defender than lebron was from 2009-2013 (he fell of significantly after that).
talk to the stats, Kobe 12 all defensive teams, lebron 6. you could arguably say kobe was twice the defender lebron was

[RRR3]

Harper played a year without mj most of the year however not the best example.
I didn’t say MJ had anything to do with his drop off :D

Was correcting TheMan

[3ball]

Shaq played like 7 less MPG on the Cavs.



Uh oh RRR3... :no: ... :oldlol:

looks like imma getcha back for that Cartwright bullshit:



Per 36

Shaq 2009:. 21.3 pts.. 60.9 fg.. 117 ortg.. 22.3 PER.. 0.166 ws/48... 2.0 bpm.. 2.3 vorp
Shaq 2010:. 18.5 pts.. 56.6 fg.. 104 ortg.. 17.9 PER.. 0.119 ws/48.. -0.5 bpm.. 0.5 vorp


:eek:

Now I could do the same thing with Rodney Hood, Jamison, Derrick Rose, Crowder, Wade, Bosh, Love, Shaq, IT, Hughes, and more

Every time a guy is brought in, lebron reduces them to spot-up up shooter and asks for more help - the reduction of players' roles causes a constant need for "moar help".. it's a sad charade

[Loco 50]

Harper averaged 20.1/6.1/4.6/1.9/0.7 the year before joining the Bulls.


Chandler doe.
Harper played for the damn Clippers.

There were many Clippers that put up amazing offensive stats that fell off immediately after trade.

He was a role player.

[3ball]

Harper averaged 20.1/6.1/4.6/1.9/0.7 the year before joining the Bulls.


Chandler doe.
Harper was at 7 ppg for the whole 95' season before MJ came back at the end..

so he'd already declined to 7 ppg long before MJ came back.. it's called getting old.

[RRR3]

Uh oh RRR3... :no: ... :oldlol:

looks like imma getcha back for that Cartwright bullshit:



Per 36

Shaq 2009:. 21.3 pts.. 60.9 fg.. 117 ortg.. 22.3 PER.. 0.166 ws/48... 2.0 bpm.. 2.3 vorp
Shaq 2010:. 18.5 pts.. 56.6 fg.. 104 ortg.. 17.9 PER.. 0.119 ws/48.. -0.5 bpm.. 0.5 vorp


:eek:

Now I could do the same thing with Rodney Hood, Jamison, Derrick Rose, Crowder, Wade, Bosh, Love, Shaq, IT, Hughes, and more

Every time a guy is brought in, lebron reduces them to spot-up up shooter and asks for more help - the reduction of players' roles causes a constant need for "moar help".. it's a sad charade
I can admit Shaq got worse under LeBron. Now admit Cartwright got significantly worse under MJ.

[3ball]

I can admit Shaq got worse under LeBron. Now admit Cartwright got significantly worse under MJ.
No because he'd already declined in NY, which is why the Knicks benched him so he could maintain his production at the lower minute level

But the bulls were thin, so they played him the same 30 min that he couldn't play anymore in NY

No one ever got worse under MJ, and the notoriety they got from playing with MJ gave them prominent post-playing careers - most of mj's teammates became prominent coaches, front office, or media personnel

We'd never talk Cartwright if he never played with MJ, and his profile wouldn't be as high to get those coaching jobs he got

[Gus Hemmingway]

embarrassing :roll: :roll:

[NBASTATMAN]

I can admit Shaq got worse under LeBron. Now admit Cartwright got significantly worse under MJ.


wow..

[NBASTATMAN]

bump :roll:

[red1]

this is priceless :roll: :roll: :roll:



the former occupant of the highest office in the land, telling it like it is.


just goes to show that even behind closed doors in the whitehouse the term "kobe-esque" means inefficient chucking. :oldlol:

[paksat]

Please go play on a freeway, you miserable piece of shit. :cheers:


Yeah, LeBron is a GOAT level passer. Brick shot less than 40% on jumpshots. Dude was a cancerous ball hog. The dictionary has a picture of his next to the word as well.

You do realize that the your lover was almost always horrific in the Finals, right? Dude was a glorified roleplayer who just took a shit ton of shots. Replace him with Stackhouse and he replicates the results on those stacked AF team.


At their peaks, LeBron was a better defender than dad killer.


Because he was guarding another player? If he guarded player A through out a series and player B went OFF, you little ***** would be he crying about how LeBron didn't guard player B.


Not everyone has the luxury of having a Pippen, Rodman, Grant, Harper, etc..


Yeah, you should quit ISH for good. This is just embarrassing.



:rant



















bla bla bla excuses excuses excuses halp halp halp halp halp halp ( 6 halp's for emphasis on those six L's )


























































:rant









































:cry:

[NBASTATMAN]

this is priceless :roll: :roll: :roll:



the former occupant of the highest office in the land, telling it like it is.


just goes to show that even behind closed doors in the whitehouse the term "kobe-esque" means inefficient chucking. :oldlol:
:applause:

[SpaceJam2]

this is priceless :roll: :roll: :roll:



the former occupant of the highest office in the land, telling it like it is.


just goes to show that even behind closed doors in the whitehouse the term "kobe-esque" means inefficient chucking. :oldlol:

Whatta bomb for Kobe stans

[NBASTATMAN]

Would OBAMA label Curry s finals performances as KOBEesque ?
:roll:

[sdot_thadon]

Life imitates Art or Art imitates Life?

Kobe spent his life attempting to be Jordanesque when all along Mj had already been Kobe-esque. Obama's the 1st president ever with bball IQ.

[NBASTATMAN]

Life imitates Art or Art imitates Life?

Kobe spent his life attempting to be Jordanesque when all along Mj had already been Kobe-esque. Obama's the 1st president ever with bball IQ.
:applause:

[Cold soul]

MJ is much better than Kobe. Water is wet.

[NBASTATMAN]

Obama just destroyed both the Kobe and Jordan fanbases with a single quote :lol


And he's from Chicago too, so you know he's telling the truth :roll:



https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/130315104330-obeidallah-presidential-jokes-horizontal-large-gallery.jpg

[egokiller]

Past your bedtime baby boy:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13739802&postcount=70

[NBASTATMAN]

Past your bedtime baby boy:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13739802&postcount=70



https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/technology/businessinsider/article/Obama-took-a-small-jab-at-Kobe-Bryant-while-13925418.php:cheers: :roll:

[aj1987]

So we just not gon' use context, are we? Not gonna mention Harper was basically a defensive specialist role player by the time he joined the Bulls, not much of an offensive contributor (check his playoff avgs), same for Rodman, he was a black hole on offense, plus these guys were past their prime. Exactly how many All Stars do these guys have other than Pippen playing alongside MJ? What you just did I can easily do, fukk context...

Not everyone has the luxury of having a Shaq, Wallace, Haslem, Battier, Chandler etc
When was the last time you ever used context while talking about LeBron?

BTW, forgot about Gervin and Oakley. :cheers:

[LAmbruh]

lmaooooo how'd I miss this :roll:

[TheCorporation]

lmaooooo how'd I miss this :roll:


Shiiiiiid

:lol :roll:



WOOOOO

[LAmbruh]

Shiiiiiid

:lol :roll:



WOOOOO
:yaohappy:

[Keno]

obama telling the truth as usual. :oldlol: :applause:

[SpaceJam2]

:yaohappy:

:hammertime: :hammertime:

[LAmbruh]

This just knocked Kobe out of the top 30:roll: :roll:
now that you mention it, Im not 100% sure Kobe was even a Top 30 league player through half his career.

off the top, you can argue 7 seasons he wasn't cracking top 50