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PCCM_29
06-06-2019, 03:08 PM
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2838011-ranking-every-nba-finals-mvp-from-the-last-decade#slide2

https://ibb.co/px6yvDZ
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While most will say MJ is the GOAT, I would say he had the most storied and greatest career, winning 6/6, and elevating the game to international stardom.

What I will say is, at their peak (which almost by definition can only be measured as performance in the NBA finals) no one compares to the play of Lebron. 2016 solidified that... but so did 2015, and 2017 if we're being honest.

SouBeachTalents
06-06-2019, 03:13 PM
That was a terrible ranking

Iggy over 2010 Kobe. 2012 LeBron 9th. Kawhi FIFTH :oldlol:

I'd prob go

2015 Iggy
2014 Kawhi
2010 Kobe
2011 Dirk
2013 LeBron
2009 Kobe
2018 Durant
2012 LeBron
2017 Durant
2016 LeBron

Bankaii
06-06-2019, 03:16 PM
That was a terrible ranking

Iggy over 2010 Kobe. 2012 LeBron 9th. Kawhi FIFTH :oldlol:

I'd prob go

2015 Iggy
2014 Kawhi
2010 Kobe
2011 Dirk
2013 LeBron
2009 Kobe
2018 Durant
2012 LeBron
2017 Durant
2016 LeBron
I'm surprised you out KD so high.
In terms of on court play only Bron has even been close but when you factor in the context of the situations it really diminishes how great KD was.

PCCM_29
06-06-2019, 03:22 PM
I'm surprised you out KD so high.
In terms of on court play only Bron has even been close but when you factor in the context of the situations it really diminishes how great KD was.

Scoring 30 points at a 50% clip when you're the sole person everyone is focusing their defense on vs. 30 points at a 50% clip when you have 3 other all-stars (+another prime MVP) is another.

Thus, KD to Knicks this off season.

Phoenix
06-06-2019, 03:23 PM
Contextually speaking I think Dirk warrants a top 3 ranking. That entire run through the western playoffs was spectacular and capped off by an improbable championship over a Heat team with Lebron, Wade and Bosh, while he was surrounded entirely by veteran role players. Others had more spectacular finals statistically but again, contextually I don't think anyone really was looking at Dirk as a favorite to win the championship once the Heatles formed with the expectations that team carried.

dazzer87
06-06-2019, 03:25 PM
2011 Dirk should be #1............ Underdog in all series that year.......

Stephonit
06-06-2019, 03:50 PM
So the media created one more meaningless award based on another one of its meaningless awards? Who cares? The real surprise is that anyone is paying it any attention.

SwayDizzle
06-06-2019, 03:51 PM
2011 Dirk should be #1............ Underdog in all series that year.......
i agree

3ball
06-06-2019, 04:03 PM
Scoring 30 points at a 50% clip when you're the sole person everyone is focusing their defense on vs. 30 points at a 50% clip when you have 3 other all-stars (+another prime MVP) is another.

Thus, KD to Knicks this off season.
lebron had the most scoring help ever because Kyrie averaged the most ever for a 2nd option and almost the same as lebron

Lebron always had a near-equal scoring partner anytime he won a Finals (only 2 - 5 ppg less than bron), whereas MJ always scored 10-20 more than his 2nd option in every Finals (a true 1-man show)

and 10-30 more than his 2nd option in virtually every playoff series except two

Only lebron had 2nd options that were considered "lethal" scorers that commanded double-teams... MJ never had this

Otoh, only MJ led his team in scoring for every playoff series of his career, and he did so by an average margin of 15.4 ppg over his 2nd option (1-man shoe for his whole career on offense)

LostCause
06-06-2019, 04:05 PM
Those folks at BR really don't have anything to write about huh

PickernRoller
06-06-2019, 04:07 PM
How's that view counter? mild?

Let me fart this ranking article real quick.

Rechecks view counter a few hours later..

Nice...

bigkingsfan
06-06-2019, 04:17 PM
lebron had the most scoring help ever because Kyrie averaged the most ever for a 2nd option and almost the same as lebron

Lebron always had a near-equal scoring partner anytime he won a Finals (only 2 - 5 ppg less than bron), whereas MJ always scored 10-20 more than his 2nd option in every Finals (a true 1-man show)

and 10-30 more than his 2nd option in virtually every playoff series except two

Only lebron had 2nd options that were considered "lethal" scorers that commanded double-teams... MJ never had this

Otoh, only MJ led his team in scoring for every playoff series of his career, and he did so by an average margin of 15.4 ppg over his 2nd option (1-man shoe for his whole career on offense)
Lebron elevated teammates

red1
06-06-2019, 04:19 PM
well deserved.


the MVP of MVPs :eek:

Manny98
06-06-2019, 04:27 PM
1. 16 LeBron
2. 17 KD
3. 13 LeBron
4. 12 LeBron
5. 18 KD
6. Who cares the rest are trash :oldlol:

3ball
06-06-2019, 04:34 PM
1. 16 LeBron
2. 17 KD
3. 13 LeBron
4. 12 LeBron
5. 18 KD
6. Who cares the rest are trash :oldlol:
Lebron was a net negative in 2013 Finals and infact horrible

He averaged 16 on 39% thru 3 games, while his 23 on 43% was insufficient through 6 games and needed Ray to force game 7.. lebron was completely carried and choked

Lebron's 2012 was his best Finals and statistically compares to MJ based on % of points scored (burden)..

in 2016, lebron averaged 24 and 6 TO's thru 4 games, so he needed 7 games, Dray suspension and a goat performance from kyrie to win

red1
06-06-2019, 04:35 PM
1. 16 LeBron
2. 17 KD
3. 13 LeBron
4. 12 LeBron
5. 18 KD
6. Who cares the rest are trash :oldlol:
You're an idiot dude.

1. 2016 lebron - GOAT chip brought it home for his city not much explanation needed
2. 2011 dirk - shat in lebron's eye with a team of veterans humbling the arrogant heat
3. 2009 kobe - got the monkey off his back of "can't win without shaq" wasn't as good as 2017 kd but his team wasn't as stacked either
4. 2017 kd - splashed a dagger three in cleveland in game 3 winning the series by going up 3-0.


THEN it's the rest

Overdrive
06-06-2019, 05:00 PM
What I will say is, at their peak (which almost by definition can only be measured as performance in the NBA finals) no one compares to the play of Lebron. 2016 solidified that... but so did 2015, and 2017 if we're being honest.

Jordan, Shaq and Lebron are the three strongest Finals MVPs* imo, but Jordan seperates himself from the others as a Finals performer overall.

Part of it is circumstancial.


*I don't think one shot FMVPs should be taken into consideration.

FKAri
06-06-2019, 05:45 PM
Contextually speaking I think Dirk warrants a top 3 ranking. That entire run through the western playoffs was spectacular and capped off by an improbable championship over a Heat team with Lebron, Wade and Bosh, while he was surrounded entirely by veteran role players. Others had more spectacular finals statistically but again, contextually I don't think anyone really was looking at Dirk as a favorite to win the championship once the Heatles formed with the expectations that team carried.
He wasn't that great in the finals though. He was a God before then. That Thunder series was GOAT tier stuff

Phoenix
06-06-2019, 05:59 PM
He wasn't that great in the finals though. He was a God before then. That Thunder series was GOAT tier stuff

That's why I said others had more spectacular statlines. I'm aware of his performance relative to other FMVPs of the decade, and even compared to how he played in the playoffs that year before the finals. Bear in mind that had Dirk not won he would be lumped into the Malone/Ewing/Barkley category of superstars who never won, and at 33 it seemed like he was heading that path. I'm considering that and the fact that he was going to war against Lebron, Wade and Bosh with past his prime Kidd, Chandler, 34 year old Jason Terry, past prime Marion. I'm placing my point within that context. If you simply want to say 'who played the best' individually, then sure. I was trying to expand beyond that.

34-24 Footwork
06-06-2019, 06:23 PM
So the media created one more meaningless award based on another one of its meaningless awards? Who cares? The real surprise is that anyone is paying it any attention.

Lmao. 1000000% THIS.

What the fvck does this award even mean??

RRR3
06-06-2019, 06:27 PM
Lmao. 1000000% THIS.

What the fvck does this award even mean??
SEETHING




:yaohappy:

Manny98
06-06-2019, 06:35 PM
You're an idiot dude.

1. 2016 lebron - GOAT chip brought it home for his city not much explanation needed
2. 2011 dirk - shat in Wades eye with a team of veterans humbling the arrogant heat
3. 2009 kobe - got the monkey off his back of "can't win without shaq" wasn't as good as 2017 kd but his team wasn't as stacked either
4. 2017 kd - splashed a dagger three in cleveland in game 3 winning the series by going up 3-0.


THEN it's the rest
Fixed

SouBeachTalents
06-06-2019, 06:54 PM
Lmao. 1000000% THIS.

What the fvck does this award even mean??
I believe it means the most valuable player of the Finals, but I'll be honest, I don't think anyone knows what it means anymore. Scholars maintain that the translation was lost hundreds of years ago