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ClipperRevival
06-08-2019, 12:34 AM
In this era of the 3 ball, Kawhi is proving the importance of the mid-range game. The 3 is too hit or miss and guys can get cold for long stretches and it's almost impossible to get to the rack in the playoffs. So what does an offensive player really have left? The mid-range game. Mastering this aspect means you have a super high pct shot to rely on at almost any possession.

This is what separate Kawhi from flawed players like Giannis and Curry. Let me explain with Curry. Almost all of Curry's game is within the flow. He's hit or miss when it comes to creating his own shot in half-court sets. This is where Kawhi shines. He can just hold that ball, dribble down the clock and pull up.

bullettooth
06-08-2019, 12:36 AM
I think his defense has a lot to do with the way him and the raps are handling the Warriors as well.

Vino24
06-08-2019, 12:36 AM
He's also proving that he's a better midrange shooter than MJ

RRR3
06-08-2019, 12:36 AM
Oh god the MIDRANG stans are back at it.

iamgine
06-08-2019, 12:36 AM
Derozan is pretty good at this.

Soundwave
06-08-2019, 12:36 AM
He shows that Jordan would be dominant in the modern NBA. Kwahi is basically a poor man's version of Jordan, great player but less athleticism, slower first step, less offensive creativity.

But yes, he shows that the mid-range game can still be a superstar's bread and butter, some kids here who think all you need to do is shoot 3s ... learn to master that mid-range jumper is you want to be a good player. If you can make that shot, you can play in any situation.

egokiller
06-08-2019, 12:36 AM
Kawhi is getting any shot he wants in this soft era even in the finals. Imagine MJ in a league being able to get any shot he wanted unlike in the 90

wagexslave
06-08-2019, 12:37 AM
You gotta mix it up. Can't always chuck 3s every possession especially if they're not falling and ESPECIALLY if they're not getting open looks. A well-rounded attack is the most consistent. This was the Rocket's downfall. They were chucking so many 3s when they weren't even necessary. Just get a good look.

ClipperRevival
06-08-2019, 12:42 AM
[QUOTE=egokiller]Kawhi is getting any shot he wants in this soft era even in the finals. Imagine MJ in a league being able to get any shot he wanted unlike in the 90

ClipperRevival
06-08-2019, 12:49 AM
This is why you can't listen to guys who never played the game and rely only on stats. Guys like Morey will tell you that the worst shot in bball is the mid-range game. But if you play the game, you realize the importance of this shot for the reasons I mentioned in the OP. They think the game is played on a stat sheet. They'll never get it.

ImKobe
06-08-2019, 12:55 AM
Like Jalen said the other day regarding analytics, it's a lot harder to defend a team that can make a shot from anywhere on the court vs. defending a team that only goes for 3s and layups because of said analytics..

Now, almost half of Kawhi's made FGs were 3s (5 out of 11), but what makes him unguardable is the fact that he won't hesitate to fake you out and shoot a wide open mid-range jumper - he's automatic from anywhere on the court.

That's what teams like the Rockets and Bucks are missing - the mid-range shot.


He's also proving that he's a better midrange shooter than MJ

No one from the current era is really better than Jordan when it comes to the mid-range shot, considering that Jordan shot it at such a high volume(seasons of 1000+ attempts) yet his percentage is almost better than anyone's.

DocSlam
06-08-2019, 12:56 AM
Durant's mid range is his most unstoppable shot. Kobe too. If you are great in the mid-range, the defense is always back on it's heels.

ClipperRevival
06-08-2019, 01:00 AM
Durant's mid range is his most unstoppable shot. Kobe too. If you are great in the mid-range, the defense is always back on it's heels.

It's the ultimate arsenal to rely on when nothing is there. You can just pull up almost anytime. It's just always there. The 3 is way too hit or miss and you just can't get to the rack. The mid-range is always there. Master that shot and you master the highest level of bball. :cheers:

egokiller
06-08-2019, 01:03 AM
It's truly scary how much MJ would devastate in this no D era. With all that spacing, no physicality allowed and no shot blockers. Geez. :oldlol:

It would break the league and cause massive depression for his opponents. Not even joking. In this soft snowflake mindset league? Book it.

ClipperRevival
06-08-2019, 01:08 AM
Wanna watch some mid-range mastery? Check this out. And remember, this is just one form of a mid-range shot. MJ had them all. This is what creating a shot out of nothing means. From the triple threat position. This is what LeBron, Curry and Giannis lacks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEGjlw5Dv38

coin24
06-08-2019, 01:15 AM
Wanna watch some mid-range mastery? Check this out. And remember, this is just one form of a mid-range shot. MJ had them all. This is what creating a shot out of nothing means. From the triple threat position. This is what LeBron, Curry and Giannis lacks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEGjlw5Dv38


Fantastic stuff:applause:

This is why mj, Kobe, kd and kawhi are such beasts in the playoffs.

The big di.ck gang

dazzer87
06-08-2019, 01:17 AM
MJ in this league?:roll: :roll:

sportjames23
06-08-2019, 01:21 AM
It's the ultimate arsenal to rely on when nothing is there. You can just pull up almost anytime. It's just always there. The 3 is way too hit or miss and you just can't get to the rack. The mid-range is always there. Master that shot and you master the highest level of bball. :cheers:


It

sdot_thadon
06-08-2019, 01:21 AM
If anything he's proving having teammates that show up trumps anything.:oldlol:

RRR3
06-08-2019, 01:23 AM
The Raptors are proving just how much defense matters.

Kawhi is an all time great player without a doubt tho. A true legend.

brooks_thompson
06-08-2019, 07:15 AM
My favorite shot of the year was in the GS-HOU series. It was game 3 or 4, and the Warriors were on one of their third quarter runs, unanswered because the Rockets kept missing threes. FINALLY, before it got too out of hand, Iman freakin' Shumpert pump-faked and drove to the free-throw line for a pull-up. Bang. Run stopped, momentum over. Ship stabilized. All from a simple 15-footer.

It's sad that the state of the league has led me to seriously call an Iman Shumpert run of the mill midranger my favorite shot of the year.

Morey probably called him to his office after the game and reamed him out and threatened to have him blackballed.

G0ATbe
06-08-2019, 07:32 AM
True that. Just look at demar derozan the mj clone. Dat midrange got him looking like a god come playoff time:applause:

Asukal
06-08-2019, 07:36 AM
Kawhi watching MJ videos for inspiration is paying off bigtime. Now imagine prime MJ in his place, warriors who? :lol

Manny98
06-08-2019, 07:42 AM
MJ is a poor mans Kawhi

LostCause
06-08-2019, 07:47 AM
MJ is a poor mans Kawhi
Melting :lol

sportjames23
06-08-2019, 08:18 AM
MJ is a poor mans Kawhi

You steaming mad. :oldlol:

AlternativeAcc.
06-08-2019, 08:27 AM
Durants midrange numbers were head and shoulders better thathan anybody else before his injury,volume AND efficiency wise.

Kawhi isnt proving anything we already didnt know. Being a go to scorer in the playoffs is the most important skill a player can have

Curry isnt a go to scorer. Hes a rhythm/streakshooter whose go to moves are completely predictable and worthless against tight finals defense.


Curry cant hit a momentum shot to save his life. Theres thousands of guys I'd take over curry in the finals.

paksat
06-08-2019, 08:30 AM
for some reason a bunch of geeks were able to sway the entire league into dropping the "live by the 3, die by the 3" slogan

there's a reason that for, the entire history of bball really, the 3 ball was seen a gimmick and that championships aren't won with it as the focus of the offense

thing is, today EVERYONE is doing it so you don't got an 80s or 90s style team around to prove them wrong

AlternativeAcc.
06-08-2019, 08:35 AM
for some reason a bunch of geeks were able to sway the entire league into dropping the "live by the 3, die by the 3" slogan

there's a reason that for, the entire history of bball really, the 3 ball was seen a gimmick and that championships aren't won with it as the focus of the offense

thing is, today EVERYONE is doing it so you don't got an 80s or 90s style team around to prove them wrong
Its never that black and white

3ball is more efficient and requires less energy

It was always the future of basketball

Defense is better than it's ever been

Both the raps and warriors have a better defense than any team in the 80s or 90s by a long shot


You cant get by anymore on 1 or 2 good things... you have to be elite at everything and the Raps are the team with the least amount of weaknesses. It's not like they just rely on midrange and post play like its the stone age


Lol @ thinking the raps are a 90s team. They'd blow any 90s team out of the water

StrongLurk
06-08-2019, 09:33 AM
The RAPTORS team is winning because of defense, threes, and free throws :roll:

NOT because Kawhi has hit some midrange shots.

paksat
06-08-2019, 09:57 AM
Its never that black and white

3ball is more efficient and requires less energy

It was always the future of basketball

Defense is better than it's ever been

Both the raps and warriors have a better defense than any team in the 80s or 90s by a long shot


You cant get by anymore on 1 or 2 good things... you have to be elite at everything and the Raps are the team with the least amount of weaknesses. It's not like they just rely on midrange and post play like its the stone age


Lol @ thinking the raps are a 90s team. They'd blow any 90s team out of the water

lmao not even 4 weeks ago you'd be another dude saying "the raps are full of choking scrubs that have one good player and his name is kawhi"

step out of the moment for a second and realize this raptors team is playing a warriors team has half it's roster on crutches

just LOL @ you thinking this raps team could take on the 96 bulls

you can't get by on 1 or 2 things anymore you say... yet that's all teams get by on now, the 3 ball, and layups

no post game, no mid range, it's all literally 3's and/or layups. You got guards getting forced into switches onto CENTERS which would be an EASY 2 points in the 90s. But what are these big man doing when they're 6 feet from the basket with a guy 8 inches shorter then them? They're kicking it back out to the 3.

you're bananas, seriously I can't believe people are this blind or maybe you're just super young.

Stephonit
06-08-2019, 11:00 AM
Raptors bench > Warriors bench

That's the series in a nutshell.

NuggetsFan
06-08-2019, 11:01 AM
Uhh Leonard is shooting like 39% on 2.4 makes a game in the playoffs. He's made 12 3's in 4 games and is shooting 40% in the finals. Part of the reason why his midrange game is so deadly is because defense's have to run him off the 3 point line and are worried about that shot. Add in all the spacing when he's on the floor with other 3 point shooters and it gives him more room to work in the midrange.

His two most popular shots this playoffs are within 0-3 feet, and the 3 pointer.

Raptors are 51-141 from 3 on 36%. GS is 45-128 on 35%. Leonard is tied for the 3rd most 3's in the finals, and is only 3 away from the leader Curry who's shoot almost 5% worse from deep.

If your midrange game is as elite as Leonard, or someone like Durant, it's deadly for sure. 3 point shooting absolutely matters tho, and plays a big role in the midrange game nowadays.

egokiller
06-08-2019, 11:02 AM
If Kawhi was as good as MJ, he'd be dropping 70 a game on these crippled GSW much like MJ would do if he played today under these rules where defense isn't allowed to be played.

NBASTATMAN
06-08-2019, 11:42 AM
I think his defense has a lot to do with the way him and the raps are handling the Warriors as well.


TRUTHFULLY i think his defense has been bad.. His offense on the other hand has been OFF THE CHARTS. :bowdown:

egokiller
06-08-2019, 11:46 AM
TRUTHFULLY i think his defense has been bad.. His offense on the other hand has been OFF THE CHARTS. :bowdown:

It's not that it's been bad, it's that he's not allowed to play proper defense under this shit rule set. He's in the same bucket of shit as everyone else that has to deal with the fvcked rule set of today.

sdot_thadon
06-08-2019, 11:53 AM
Isn't strange that everyone is attempting to use these finals to prop up or tear down all these people who either aren't playing or haven't played since they were teenagers?

egokiller
06-08-2019, 11:56 AM
Isn't strange that everyone is attempting to use these finals to prop up or tear down all these people who either aren't playing or haven't played since they were teenagers?

Translation:

"I want a world filled with rainbows and pu55ies that taste like strawberry shortcake! Everyone is a winner and no one should be compared! Let's all love one and other! Woooohoooo!"

:roll: :applause:

sdot_thadon
06-08-2019, 11:59 AM
Translation:

"I want a world filled with rainbows and pu55ies that taste like strawberry shortcake! Everyone is a winner and no one should be compared! Let's all love one and other! Woooohoooo!"

:roll: :applause:
translation, ive been depressed every since my hero retired when i was 16. Hur dur watched Mj live though while playing Pokemon.:coleman:

AlternativeAcc.
06-08-2019, 02:42 PM
lmao not even 4 weeks ago you'd be another dude saying "the raps are full of choking scrubs that have one good player and his name is kawhi"

step out of the moment for a second and realize this raptors team is playing a warriors team has half it's roster on crutches

just LOL @ you thinking this raps team could take on the 96 bulls

you can't get by on 1 or 2 things anymore you say... yet that's all teams get by on now, the 3 ball, and layups

no post game, no mid range, it's all literally 3's and/or layups. You got guards getting forced into switches onto CENTERS which would be an EASY 2 points in the 90s. But what are these big man doing when they're 6 feet from the basket with a guy 8 inches shorter then them? They're kicking it back out to the 3.

you're bananas, seriously I can't believe people are this blind or maybe you're just super young.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13666730&postcount=46

^ post I made on the raptors 2 months ago. Whoops! Your lies dont wrong on me little guy:(


The raps are far too deep and sophisticated for ANY bulls team in the 90s


The game has evolved and so have the teams. You have no idea what you're talkinabout.

SpaceJam2
06-08-2019, 02:44 PM
Hi 3 ball

SpaceJam2
06-08-2019, 02:44 PM
Derozan is pretty good at this.

Modern day version of Mike Jordan

LAmbruh
10-24-2020, 04:28 AM
ouch

LAmbruh
10-24-2020, 04:32 AM
ClipperRevival

Last Activity 09-09-2020 10:01 PM


:lol

NBAGOAT
10-24-2020, 05:15 AM
kawhi definitely made some people eat crow this season :lol. I expected some regression after his hot start vs dallas(80% shooting from 10-16ft lol) but still was surprised how bad he was game 7. he went from best in the league to not in multiple top 5 lists.

8Ball
10-24-2020, 05:25 AM
ClipperRevival

Last Activity 09-09-2020 10:01 PM


:lol

Last activity was game 4 when they won haha

LAmbruh
10-24-2020, 05:33 AM
Last activity was game 4 when they won haha

poor babyboi :roll:

ArbitraryWater
10-24-2020, 09:54 AM
lololol

Trollsmasher
10-24-2020, 10:28 AM
bricked like 15 of dem midranges in game 7:lol

LonelyOwl
10-24-2020, 11:30 AM
Last activity was game 4 when they won haha

:roll::roll::roll:

TheCorporation
10-24-2020, 12:20 PM
ClipperRevival

Last Activity 09-09-2020 10:01 PM


:lol

Never returned after game 4 :lol :lol

Ben Simmons
10-24-2020, 05:49 PM
ClipperRevival

Last Activity 09-09-2020 10:01 PM


:lol

Soft

Manny98
10-24-2020, 05:51 PM
Soft
Just like his idol :oldlol:

kawhileonard2
06-07-2022, 11:43 PM
Kawhi is the best. Only guy who can led a franchise that never won and get them a title in the first year he is there.

red1
06-08-2022, 12:05 AM
lebron





kawhi.

Kawhi Not?
06-08-2022, 09:59 PM
Kawhi needs to comeback

SATAN
06-08-2022, 09:59 PM
Who??

Kawhi Not?
06-08-2022, 10:02 PM
Who??

The GOAT that’s who

kawhileonard2
06-08-2022, 11:19 PM
lebron





kawhi.

Kawhi destroys Lebron