How many rings does MJ get if he plays with 10 All-Stars/HoFers?

[egokiller]

Stay mad :lol

All-Stars/HoFers Jordan played with for his rings:
Pippen
Grant
Rodman

All-Stars/HoFers Russell played with for his rings:
Bob Cousy
Sam Jones
Tom Heinsohn
John Havlicek
Bill Sharman
Frank Ramsey
KC Jones
Bailey Howell
Tom Sanders
Clyde Lovellette

[MrFonzworth]

MJ playing with Clyde Lovellette would be UNFAIR for the rest of the league:eek:

[SpaceJam2]

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[red1]

how many fathers would MJ get killed if he had two dads?

[SamuraiSWISH]

I mean dude he won 6 for 6 with one All Star. One who technically wasn’t an all star in 1991, because of how stacked the East was talent wise, or 1998 where he missed half the season selfishly.

If Jordan didn’t retire in his prime, and Krause / Pippen didn’t selfishly break up the Bulls prematurely. 1994 and 1999 are LOCKS for rings. Even with a rapidly declining Pippen, who they originally were going to trade for McGrady around that time.

1995 is in play if Jordan isn’t in baseball shape and rusty as well. Especially given rapport with the talent upgrades following his retirement in 1993.

So that’s 8-9 rings right there with just Scottie Pippen is not just plausible but probable. And he’s only a top 30-35 guy.

Kareem, Magic, Kobe, Shaq, LeBron all played with fellow top ten guys or top 20-25 guys to win their rings.

MJ, Hakeem, Duncan, and Bird are the only ones who didn’t need that massive amount of superstar top teners to top twenty fivers to win multiple chips.

[Manny98]

1 for 9

[NBAGOAT]

Like a third of these guys are only hofers because of rings. It

[SamuraiSWISH]

1 for 9
That

[egokiller]

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]That

[SouBeachTalents]

I mean dude he won 6 for 6 with one All Star. One who technically wasn’t an all star in 1991, because of how stacked the East was talent wise, or 1998 where he missed half the season selfishly.

If Jordan didn’t retire in his prime, and Krause / Pippen didn’t selfishly break up the Bulls prematurely. 1994 and 1999 are LOCKS for rings. Even with a rapidly declining Pippen, who they originally were going to trade for McGrady around that time.

1995 is in play if Jordan isn’t in baseball shape and rusty as well. Especially given rapport with the talent upgrades following his retirement in 1993.

So that’s 8-9 rings right there with just Scottie Pippen is not just plausible but probable. And he’s only a top 30-35 guy.

Kareem, Magic, Kobe, Shaq, LeBron all played with fellow top ten guys or top 20-25 guys to win their rings.

MJ, Hakeem, Duncan, and Bird are the only ones who didn’t need that massive amount of superstar top teners to top twenty fivers to win multiple chips.
1999 a lock? GTFOH :oldlol: They could've easily lost to the Pacers the year before, what makes you think it's a lock they beat them the following year? Not to mention the absurdity of calling them a "lock" to beat the Spurs, who were sweeping Shaq/Kobe & Portland in the playoffs

And 1995 is a hard sell for being a title year when the team the Bulls lost to got swept in the Finals

Lastly, you can't just pretend playing in '94 & '95 wouldn't have affected Jordan later on down the road. He would've obviously had a lot more mileage on him, there's no guarantee he's as effective in his mid 30's in '97 & '98 without taking two years off

[ImKobe]

Imagine if MJ teamed up with two other top 5 PER players like Bran did...

[warriorfan]

Imagine if MJ teamed up with two other top 5 PER players like Bran did...

If MJ woukd have joined the 2nd and 4th per in the league like lebron he would have joined Orlando with Shaq and Hakeem Olajuwon

[paksat]

i'm gonna go with 3 and 9 for my answers

3 + 9 that is

so 12 rings

[FKAri]

However many rings David Stern wants him to have.

[SamuraiSWISH]

i'm gonna go with 3 and 9 for my answers

3 + 9 that is

so 12 rings
:eek: :oldlol:

Accurate most likely, too

[egokiller]

If MJ woukd have joined the 2nd and 4th per in the league like lebron he would have joined Orlando with Shaq and Hakeem Olajuwon

Why do lestans think they get a pass for lebron going 2/4 with #2 and #4 in PER and cry about MJ going 6/6 when MJ didn't join #2 and #4 in PER?:oldlol:

3/9

[Hey Yo]

Why do lestans think they get a pass for lebron going 2/4 with #2 and #4 in PER and cry about MJ going 6/6 when MJ didn't join #2 and #4 in PER?:oldlol:

3/9
What year did Wade and Bosh finish with those PER #'s with James as their teammate?

[egokiller]

What year did Wade and Bosh finish with those PER #'s with James as their teammate?

They dropped in PER ranking because they played with a cancerous teammate (lebron) that regulated them to spot up shooters so that he could stat pad at the expense of his teammates. :applause:

[Hey Yo]

They dropped in PER ranking because they played with a cancerous teammate (lebron) that regulated them to spot up shooters so that he could stat pad at the expense of his teammates. :applause:
So that means James won B2B titles and FMVP with nothing but role players??

[SpaceJam2]

What year did Wade and Bosh finish with those PER #'s with James as their teammate?

Boom

[SpaceJam2]

So that means James won B2B titles and FMVP with nothing but role players??

Wrekt em :lol

:dancin

Waiting for his response :lol

[egokiller]

So that means James won B2B titles and FMVP with nothing but role players??

No, it means he didn't exceed expectations because he only went 2/4 and got shitted on by Jason Terry. If he wasn't so concerned with stats and diminishing his teammates (who still yet managed to help him get 2 titles despite being out of their comfort zone) he would have been 4/4. He's nothing when you really think about it because if you give MJ #2 and #4 in per, he walks away with 12 rings.:sleeping

[Hey Yo]

No, it means he didn't exceed expectations because he only went 2/4 and got shitted on by Jason Terry. If he wasn't so concerned with stats and diminishing his teammates (who still yet managed to help him get 2 titles despite being out of their comfort zone) he would have been 4/4. He's nothing when you really think about it because if you give MJ #2 and #4 in per, he walks away with 12 rings.:sleeping
So he diminished his teammates but they still helped him?


Sounds as if you're saying he won B2B Finals and FMVP with role players. Also you're saying he wasnt playing with superstars if their play was diminished.

[egokiller]

So he diminished his teammates but they still helped him

Yes, it's like fighting cancer instead of just giving up. He diminished the fvck out of them but they still had enough left in the tank to pull off 2/4. Ray Allen shooting the shot of his life is evidence of this fact. :applause:

[Vino24]

MJ in 86 played with nearly 5- 20ppg players and he still managed to get swept In the 1st round. I imagine he would underwhelm like that

[bigkingsfan]

No pip, no chip.

[Hey Yo]

Yes, it's like fighting cancer instead of just giving up. He diminished the fvck out of them but they still had enough left in the tank to pull off 2/4. Ray Allen shooting the shot of his life is evidence of this fact. :applause:
They were diminished to stand there and wait to spot up and shoot, but were gassed from doing so??

Got anything else dumb to say?

[egokiller]

It's 2019 and these delusional lestans are still scared to admit that their 3/9 hero caused great players to turn into spot up shooters. Is anyone really surprised though? :lol

[Kblaze8855]

One of those hall of famers put up 5/3/3 on .297 shooting in the playoffs on a title run right in the middle of his prime. Another one had 38 points total in the playoffs in his two title runs in Boston. 20 points total one run 18 in the other.


You

[egokiller]

Oh I see... so now HOF doesn't mean shit since those guys simply made the HOF just by playing with Russell.

I guess HOF doesn't mean shit then. Glad we could clear that up. I never want to hear about how many HOF players MJ needed to win.

Another one:banana:

[ILLsmak]

Oh I see... so now HOF doesn't mean shit since those guys simply made the HOF just by playing with Russell.

I guess HOF doesn't mean shit then. Glad we could clear that up. I never want to hear about how many HOF players MJ needed to win.

Another one:banana:

It's true tho 11 rangz n u gonna get some dudes into the hof just by playing alongside you. That being said they were obv stacked. I think of it like bird. I feel like bird got some guys into the hof too, but he had talent. His team just imo wasn't as talented as say Lal.

-Smak

[jbryan1984]

I still say with the same teams, Jordan wins 94, 95 (entire year), 99 if he plays.