Why hasn't there been a legit Islamic terrorist attack on U.S. soil since 9/11?

[Shogon]

Look, in my teens I was a bit of a conspiracy theorist surrounding 9/11 and then I outgrew it and came into rational land but I still don't think the official version is on the up and up in terms of 100% accuracy for the public.

I digress...

My question is... these guys bombed the WTC in 1993 and then it only took them another 8 years to try again... successfully... and that was without any retaliation from us. Not really.

Now, we've really retaliated hard and taken a giant shit on multiple Islamic countries... and yet there has not been an Islamic terrorist attack of any substance on U.S. soil ever since... how come?

Don't give me that "well our alphabet agencies do a better job now" bullshit, I don't want to hear it. There were reports about Bin Laden being determined to hit the WTC before it happened... and it still happened.

So what gives? What's going on here? Why no further attacks, especially given that we've done more in the M.E. now than we had as of 2001 and 1993. It doesn't make sense.

Bin Laden was only a cog... he wasn't the whole damn Islamic extremist world.

[Loco 50]

The DHS did not exist prior to 9-11.


Additionally, the Patriot Act while simultaneously eroding our freedoms has made it significantly more difficult to collaborate/execute a follow up attack.

[Jasper]

Even though America is a super power , I'd have to say secretly USA probably took the easy way out and payed off several groups.

As well as possibly stated something in the lines of " if it happens again your land will be dust"

China may own America , and Russia may own the White House ,
but I think we still can push our weight around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug50z41jT7o

[East River Livn']

Bush and Barry knocked the snot out of them. Hard to plan and fund attacks when you are fighting for your lives. Dont worry, with modern technology we'll see a huge attack in the near future. Probably biological in nature

[red1]

because that shit got boring. bombing the U.S. is SO nineteen ninety-three.


now it's all about having a baller instagram page or racking up sick killstreaks on xbox live.

my boy abdul in kabul afghanistan has 200k followers and his death to america posts get 20k likes MINIMUM. even got a like from putin and kim jong-un once.

[coin24]

Because they're attacking you from the inside. Look around western counties, lots of muslims there breeding rapidly..
Why bomb when they can just overpopulate and take it over. Weasling there way into government..

[Patrick Chewing]

Because they're attacking you from the inside. Look around western counties, lots of muslims there breeding rapidly..
Why bomb when they can just overpopulate and take it over. Weasling there way into government..


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[sammichoffate]

Because they're attacking you from the inside. Look around western counties, lots of muslims there breeding rapidly..
Why bomb when they can just overpopulate and take it over. Weasling there way into government..So California is done for?

[warriorfan]

If it went down the way it say it was. Osama wasn

[n00bie]

[QUOTE=warriorfan]If it went down the way it say it was. Osama wasn

[Patrick Chewing]

Honestly the whole dumping Osama's body in the ocean is fuked up. How are you going to return to the u.s. without his body?? If that doesnt make you turn into a "conspiracy theorist" then you got no common sense.


Imagine if Bush or Trump were President instead of Obama during this time.

[tpols]

gov doesnt need to orchestrate another attack since were already firmly entrenched in the oil game out there... only needed that one big one to get the support necessary to invade full force.

[MrFonzworth]

gov doesnt need to orchestrate another attack since were already firmly entrenched in the oil game out there... only needed that one big one to get the support necessary to invade full force.
Thanks. Can you explain why the government hasnt been orchestrating any "moon landings" lately?

[DukeDelonte13]

Honestly the whole dumping Osama's body in the ocean is fuked up. How are you going to return to the u.s. without his body?? If that doesnt make you turn into a "conspiracy theorist" then you got no common sense.


I think they brought his body back.

[fiddy]

Mossad was busy with creating ISIS, you infidel.

[TheMan]

I don't consider myself a conspiracy theorist but the official story behind 9/11 is fishy af.

These dudes were horrible pilots, there are actual records of them being awful at piloting Cessnas yet they could do manuevers on Boeings that would be difficult for even experienced pilots? Yeah ok :oldlol: That and a bunch more shit that just doesn't make sense on its face.

I've no idea who was behind it, some of those theories are way out there but just like with JFK, the government is lying to us.

[rufuspaul]

Now, we've really retaliated hard and taken a giant shit on multiple Islamic countries...


You just answered your own question

[Derka]

I don't consider myself a conspiracy theorist but the official story behind 9/11 is fishy af.

These dudes were horrible pilots, there are actual records of them being awful at piloting Cessnas yet they could do manuevers on Boeings that would be difficult for even experienced pilots? Yeah ok :oldlol: That and a bunch more shit that just doesn't make sense on its face.

I've no idea who was behind it, some of those theories are way out there but just like with JFK, the government is lying to us.
Those hijackers could have done what they did with almost no training. The fact that they executed simulations, even badly, gave them all the training they would have needed. They didn't have to take off or land. They only needed to know how to bank and how to increase air speed and that's manageable with five minutes of instruction.

[Rolando]

The attacks on 9/11 were financed and executed by the Saudis. The US responded by attacking and taking out the closest and most threatening government to the Saudis: Iraq.

Terrorism is a hoax. Terrorism is financed and fomented by countries who have a vested interest in destabilizing certain areas or motivating local populations to go to war.

Here's an interesting quote from the 9/11 report:
"... The US government has not been able to determine the origin of the money used for the 9/11 attacks. Ultimately the question is of little practical significance."

So the official government report simply states that it really isn't important that we know who was behind the attacks on 9/11.

In any case, don't let yourselves get suckered into believing the terrorism hoax again. Surely, they are hoping to use this method to rally people to support a future war with Iran. (Again, for the benefit of the Saudis and also Israelis). Don't be fooled.

[Shogon]

The attacks on 9/11 were financed and executed by the Saudis. The US responded by attacking and taking out the closest and most threatening government to the Saudis: Iraq.

Terrorism is a hoax. Terrorism is financed and fomented by countries who have a vested interest in destabilizing certain areas or motivating local populations to go to war.

Here's an interesting quote from the 9/11 report:
"... The US government has not been able to determine the origin of the money used for the 9/11 attacks. Ultimately the question is of little practical significance."

So the official government report simply states that it really isn't important that we know who was behind the attacks on 9/11.

In any case, don't let yourselves get suckered into believing the terrorism hoax again. Surely, they are hoping to use this method to rally people to support a future war with Iran. (Again, for the benefit of the Saudis and also Israelis). Don't be fooled.

A lot of signs do point to Saudia Arabia and I believe that's likely true, but why would we take out Saudi adversaries as a result? Surely that doesn't make sense?

And yeah I believe the Jews are entangled in this somehow... we've carrying out their desired foreign policy in the middle east ever since 9/11...

[stalkerforlife]

Don't you live in Orlando, dude?

Pulse nightclub.

[Shogon]

Don't you live in Orlando, dude?

Pulse nightclub.

That doesn't count. lol. It was one guy...

I'm talking about organized terror attacks. I'm not talking about lone wolves.

Besides, he didn't actually commit an act of terror... that guy just did us all a favor, tbh.

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[diamenz]

That doesn't count. lol. It was one guy...

I'm talking about organized terror attacks. I'm not talking about lone wolfs.

Besides, he didn't actually commit an act of terror... that guy just did us all a favor, tbh.

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that's a pretty ****ed up thing to say, even for ish standards. shit, maybe someday you'll end up having a gay son, and somebody shoots that mother****er.

[Shogon]

that's a pretty ****ed up thing to say, even for ish standards. shit, maybe someday you'll end up having a gay son, and somebody shoots that mother****er.

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[Rolando]

A lot of signs do point to Saudia Arabia and I believe that's likely true, but why would we take out Saudi adversaries as a result? Surely that doesn't make sense?

And yeah I believe the Jews are entangled in this somehow... we've carrying out their desired foreign policy in the middle east ever since 9/11...

It all begins to make sense once you realize how incredibly wealthy and powerful the Saudis and Israelis are. The US military basically acts as a police force for them.

Take note how every US president has to visit Saudi Arabia and kiss their azzes.

[Shogon]

It all begins to make sense once you realize how incredibly wealthy and powerful the Saudis and Israelis are. The US military basically acts as a police force for them.

Take note how every US president has to visit Saudi Arabia and kiss their azzes.

No, it doesn't make sense.

Why would we take out Saudi enemies because Saudi attacked us? Why would we be doing them favors?

[warriorfan]

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[tpols]

No, it doesn't make sense.

Why would we take out Saudi enemies because Saudi attacked us? Why would we be doing them favors?


makes no sense lmao...

Here's one of the best american writers of the past 100 years take on 9/11. Hunter S.



Boom! Boom! Just like that. The towers are gone now, reduced to bloody rubble, along with all hopes for Peace in Our Time, in the United States or any other country.

Make no mistake about it: We are At War now ― with somebody ― and we will stay At War with that mysterious Enemy for the rest of our lives. It will be a Religious War, a sort of Christian Jihad, fueled by religious hatred and led by merciless fanatics on both sides. It will be guerilla warfare on a global scale, with no front lines and no identifiable enemy.

Maybe Afghanistan, maybe Pakistan or Iraq, or possibly all three at once. Who knows? Not even the Generals in what remains of the Pentagon or the New York papers calling for WAR seem to know who did it or where to look for them.

This is going to be a very expensive war, and Victory is not guaranteed ― for anyone, and certainly not for anyone as baffled as George W. Bush. All he knows is that his father started the war a long time ago, and that he, the goofy child-President, has been chosen by Fate and the global Oil industry to finish it Now.

He will declare a National Security Emergency and clamp down Hard on Everybody, no matter where they live or why. If the guilty won’t hold up their hands and confess, he and the Generals will ferret them out by force. Good luck. He is in for a profoundly difficult job ― armed as he is with no credible Military Intelligence, no witnesses and only the ghost of Bin Laden to blame for the tragedy.”



he called it 1000%.

he wrote that literally the day after it happened.

[dunksby]

No, it doesn't make sense.

Why would we take out Saudi enemies because Saudi attacked us? Why would we be doing them favors?
Because Saudi Arabia and their allies have been buying US arms forever, US has made trillions of dollars from selling arms just to the Arabs. Saudis have probably the strongest lobby in Washington.

[RRR3]

That doesn't count. lol. It was one guy...

I'm talking about organized terror attacks. I'm not talking about lone wolves.

Besides, he didn't actually commit an act of terror... that guy just did us all a favor, tbh.

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What the hell is wrong with you?

[Shogon]

Because Saudi Arabia and their allies have been buying US arms forever, US has made trillions of dollars from selling arms just to the Arabs. Saudis have probably the strongest lobby in Washington.

I'm not saying I don't understand that the USA and the Saudis are in bed together. I get that and I've known that for a long time.

What I'm trying to understand is why it is that the Saudis attacked us and we start doing them favors as a result. That literally makes no sense despite tpols' nonsensical laughing.

Is the idea that the US was part of the planning of 9/11 and allowed it to happen and Saudi did us a favor by carrying it out? That's the idea, is it? So that really means the Saudis didn't do it, it means we did it.

Because if someone kills your family members, you don't suddenly go do their bidding... that literally makes no sense and it's the only explanation given thus far. You don't do their bidding... you go and you kill them... unless you asked them to do it.

[warriorfan]

I'm not saying I don't understand that the USA and the Saudis are in bed together. I get that and I've known that for a long time.

What I'm trying to understand is why it is that the Saudis attacked us and we start doing them favors as a result. That literally makes no sense despite tpols' nonsensical laughing.

Is the idea that the US was part of the planning of 9/11 and allowed it to happen and Saudi did us a favor by carrying it out? That's the idea, is it? So that really means the Saudis didn't do it, it means we did it.

Because if someone kills your family members, you don't suddenly go do their bidding... that literally makes no sense and it's the only explanation given thus far. You don't do their bidding... you go and you kill them... unless you asked them to do it.

If they kill a family member you hate or care nothing for and you subsequently get paid out a huge life insurance policy...Starts to make a lot more sense. That is a more fitting analogy.

[Shogon]

If they kill a family member you hate or care nothing for and you subsequently get paid out a huge life insurance policy...Starts to make a lot more sense. That is a more fitting analogy.

Right, so basically what that means is that the Saudis didn't really do it. It means WE did it, and used them as a vehicle for accomplishing it.

[warriorfan]

Right, so basically what that means is that the Saudis didn't really do it. It means WE did it, and used them as a vehicle for accomplishing it.

Yes. And to be honest I think that

[Rolando]

I'm not saying I don't understand that the USA and the Saudis are in bed together. I get that and I've known that for a long time.

What I'm trying to understand is why it is that the Saudis attacked us and we start doing them favors as a result. That literally makes no sense despite tpols' nonsensical laughing.

Is the idea that the US was part of the planning of 9/11 and allowed it to happen and Saudi did us a favor by carrying it out? That's the idea, is it? So that really means the Saudis didn't do it, it means we did it.

Because if someone kills your family members, you don't suddenly go do their bidding... that literally makes no sense and it's the only explanation given thus far. You don't do their bidding... you go and you kill them... unless you asked them to do it.

This is good. I like how you are applying objective logic to this. It seems crazy to me too. But here are the basic facts:

-19 People hijacked the planes. Of those, 15 were from Saudi Arabia.

-Osama Bin Laden, a Saudi Arabian, was the leader of Al Qaeda, the Group that organized the attacks.

-There's actually evidence that the Saudi Royal Family funded Al Qaeda: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/documents/evidence-of-financial-links-between-saudi-royal-family-and-al-qaeda

-In late 2001, directly after 9/11, the Bush administration began planning for a military intevention in Iraq.

-The Bush family has close ties to the Saudi royal family:
"A key factor in Bush’s Middle East policies was his friendship with Prince Bandar, the Saudi ambassador to the US. The two men were so close that Bandar was known to pop in unexpectedly at Bush’s summer retreat in Kennebunkport, Maine. They went on hunting trips together. Later, when Bush was out of the White House, he even tasked Bandar with teaching his eldest son – George W, then a presidential aspirant with no experience in international affairs – all about foreign policy.

After his presidency was over, Bush and a number of his former cabinet officers also began participating in the Carlyle Group, a giant private equity firm heavily funded by Saudi billionaires – including the Saudi family of Osama bin Laden. As I reported in House of Bush, House of Saud, in the end, nearly $1.5bn made its way from the Saudis to individuals and institutions tied to the extended family of Bush cabinet officials and associates."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/04/george-hw-bush-saudi-arabia-donald-trump

-CIA and Saudi Arabia Conspired to Keep 9/11 Details Secret: https://www.newsweek.com/cia-and-saudi-arabia-conspired-keep-911-details-secret-new-book-says-1091935

In any case, it is OBVIOUS that there was a very large Saudi component to the attacks on 9/11.

However, we did not punish Saudi Arabia in any way after the attacks. Instead, we attacked Iraq. We went to great lengths to bullshit our way into the Iraq war as well: Weapons of Mass Destruction.

The whole mess reeks of conspiracy.

[dunksby]

I'm not saying I don't understand that the USA and the Saudis are in bed together. I get that and I've known that for a long time.

What I'm trying to understand is why it is that the Saudis attacked us and we start doing them favors as a result. That literally makes no sense despite tpols' nonsensical laughing.

Is the idea that the US was part of the planning of 9/11 and allowed it to happen and Saudi did us a favor by carrying it out? That's the idea, is it? So that really means the Saudis didn't do it, it means we did it.

Because if someone kills your family members, you don't suddenly go do their bidding... that literally makes no sense and it's the only explanation given thus far. You don't do their bidding... you go and you kill them... unless you asked them to do it.
The same way the US is not just one big entity, Saudi Arabia consists of different factions (royal families with different agenda and objectives).

Documents from invesigation into 9/11 showed that members of Saudi Arabia's intelligence services facilitated arrival, stay and training of the attackers. But it doesn't mean the attack was a unified and concentrated mission by the whole Saudi Arabian government.

To make the above clearer, let's take American security services for instance; the CIA has undertaken lots of abhorrent missions in foreign countries that were unknown to the majority of top elected officials in the US government. Now when these things are revealed to the world, is it accurate to say America did it?

One more point which is worth mentioning is that another finding of the post 9/11 investigation was that other than the involvement of some elements within the Saudi security services, financial backing also came from the country - the Bin Laden family primarily.

Now considering all that, it is difficult to imagine the Saudi Arabian rulers were completely unaware of what was going on which leads me to believe they deliberately chose to ignore it as they probably saw future gains and opportunities to fish in the troubled waters in case the attack was successful.

[Nanners]

Overall a good point OP, except 9/11 wasnt a "legit islamic terrorist attack"....It was a false flag perpetrated by Saudis with the support of Israel and the US govt.