Being opinionated + Facebook = toxic

[DaHeezy]

Sharing an opinion on here is one thing. We can bitch but at the end of the day we're all anonymous and don't have to face eachother. On Facebook it's just a dark place to post any type of opinion.

I either deleted or muted my political friends. I have no time to discuss shit like that with people I know. But since the KD incident I've seen a barrage of genuinely negative comments hurled at both side. An opinion on facebook is like throwing a carcass in a piranha tank. It just attract other opinionated people out of the woodworks in bunches. People seem to thrive on conflict. You can't post any opinion on Facebook. It's pure toxic.

[coin24]

Facebook is for losers

[solar.hands]

Social media in general brings nothing but negativity, toxicity and depression.
They should, like online discussion boards, die eventually.

[Shogon]

Facebook is for losers

This is correct.


Social media in general brings nothing but negativity, toxicity and depression.
They should, like online discussion boards, die eventually.

You're right, but women in general love social media way too much for you to say it's going to "die eventually"... yeah, maybe once we're all dead and humans have evolved to the next level... because every single woman I know in the whole damn world has a Facebook and or Instagram and they're on it literally every day.

Every. Single. One. Of. Them.

Every. Single. Day.

Every. Last. One.

In most cases, multiple times per day. In some cases, multiple times per hour.

You have to understand... people love attention. Women REALLY love attention. So not only does this serve as an at will attention getting device, it also is a free gossip tabloid... for their circle.

The platforms themselves may come and go, but social media itself is not going anywhere.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Sharing an opinion on here is one thing. We can bitch but at the end of the day we're all anonymous and don't have to face eachother. On Facebook it's just a dark place to post any type of opinion.

I either deleted or muted my political friends. I have no time to discuss shit like that with people I know. But since the KD incident I've seen a barrage of genuinely negative comments hurled at both side. An opinion on facebook is like throwing a carcass in a piranha tank. It just attract other opinionated people out of the woodworks in bunches. People seem to thrive on conflict. You can't post any opinion on Facebook. It's pure toxic.

Agreed. It is toxic.

Too much stress and discord.

Feel like going on a retreat after---chilling in the woods.

[DaHeezy]

This is correct.



You're right, but women in general love social media way too much for you to say it's going to "die eventually"... yeah, maybe once we're all dead and humans have evolved to the next level... because every single woman I know in the whole damn world has a Facebook and or Instagram and they're on it literally every day.

Every. Single. One. Of. Them.

Every. Single. Day.

Every. Last. One.

In most cases, multiple times per day. In some cases, multiple times per hour.

You have to understand... people love attention. Women REALLY love attention. So not only does this serve as an at will attention getting device, it also is a free gossip tabloid... for their circle.

The platforms themselves may come and go, but social media itself is not going anywhere.

IG is fine. It's more mundane and about advertising. Facebook is more dark. It's closer to a discussion board but amongst acquaintances. Once you post an opinion it's like every opinionated person you know chomps at the bits to partake in a debate. It's very morbid.

[fiddy]

Just ignore them?

[DaHeezy]

Just ignore them?

I do one better. I just unfriend them. Unless they are really close. I ain't got time for people like that. You know somewhere down the line you'll have conflict.

[step_back]

I deleted Facebook about 2 years ago. Wish I had done it sooner. Most people think they'll be left out of the loop if they ditch social media but I can honestly tell you that you'll soon realise who your real friends are. They'll make sure you get the invites to parties, gatherings etc

I suggest getting rid of Facebook before the 2020 U.S Presidential election if you're an American. Politics is unbearable on social media.

[DaHeezy]

I deleted Facebook about 2 years ago. Wish I had done it sooner. Most people think they'll be left out of the loop if they ditch social media but I can honestly tell you that you'll soon realise who your real friends are. They'll make sure you get the invites to parties, gatherings etc

I suggest getting rid of Facebook before the 2020 U.S Presidential election if you're an American. Politics is unbearable on social media.

Great idea. I can't believe I survived the first wave. The condition that the world is in today is gonna be chaos. Facebook will be considered a war zone.

[wang4three]

It's not really the concept of social media that's the problem as much as their incentives. They're monetization model is built purely on the premise of interaction and engagement, and they incentivize users to ultimately engage with brands and either buy something, click or write something. It's why it drives to negative outcomes like bullying or siloed political views. Moreover, as they connect more data points, they understand the content that will force you to either click, comment or buy something. Mobile accelerated this model because they figured out you're more likely to do something with an app than you were on a desktop.

What if the incentives were changed though? What if these companies were incentivize to promote community, seek help or enrich their lives through learning. Be less about how to get a user to engage with clickbait or gimmicky marketing tactics.

Not one social media company wants the narrative to be about their misplaced incentives. Instead they want the conversation to be something around more nebulous such as getting likes, people want attention, etc etc where the sole blame is placed on the users.

[DaHeezy]

It's not really the concept of social media that's the problem as much as their incentives. They're monetization model is built purely on the premise of interaction and engagement, and they incentivize users to ultimately engage with brands and either buy something, click or write something. It's why it drives to negative outcomes like bullying or siloed political views. Moreover, as they connect more data points, they understand the content that will force you to either click, comment or buy something. Mobile accelerated this model because they figured out you're more likely to do something with an app than you were on a desktop.

What if the incentives were changed though? What if these companies were incentivize to promote community, seek help or enrich their lives through learning. Be less about how to get a user to engage with clickbait or gimmicky marketing tactics.

Not one social media company wants the narrative to be about their misplaced incentives. Instead they want the conversation to be something around more nebulous such as getting likes, people want attention, etc etc where the sole blame is placed on the users.

I don't think changing the clickbait will change type of people we are. It won't change us from sharing our personal thoughts and prevent those who are combative. It's a place of expression and venting. That may work on a platform like IG.

[Hawker]

It's not really the concept of social media that's the problem as much as their incentives. They're monetization model is built purely on the premise of interaction and engagement, and they incentivize users to ultimately engage with brands and either buy something, click or write something. It's why it drives to negative outcomes like bullying or siloed political views. Moreover, as they connect more data points, they understand the content that will force you to either click, comment or buy something. Mobile accelerated this model because they figured out you're more likely to do something with an app than you were on a desktop.

What if the incentives were changed though? What if these companies were incentivize to promote community, seek help or enrich their lives through learning. Be less about how to get a user to engage with clickbait or gimmicky marketing tactics.

Not one social media company wants the narrative to be about their misplaced incentives. Instead they want the conversation to be something around more nebulous such as getting likes, people want attention, etc etc where the sole blame is placed on the users.

Lots of individuals in this thread recognizing and changing their behavior due to the toxicity of social media.

We can focus on the incentives of social media being nefarious but the only way to fix that is for users to choose not to partake in it. Delete it. Minimize it. Whatever. That's the best way to deal with it.

When you say, "what if the incentives were changed" how exactly would you go about that without users forcing the change via action?

[Nanners]

facebook = toxic regardless of how opinionated you are. the discussions on that site are so trash they make ISH look like the harvard debate club.

[sammichoffate]

Facebook is garbage, deleted mine last year and only keep in touch with maybe 1 friend. Goes to show who your real friends are, like a previous poster stated above. Finally decided that I should focus on my career and what I want in life instead of conforming to retard sheepies.

[Meticode]

I got rid of Facebook and deleted my profile about 3 months ago. Also got rid of Twitter. Not one regret about it now.

[GimmeThat]

yes, a continuous evolution of the term individuality is indeed toxic