How did the Warriors know it was an Achilles injury before the MRI?

[3ball]

If the initial injury was a calf strain, then why would they assume it's an achilles immediately after he went down in Game 5?

I thought it was a calf strain - so why the random assumption about an achilles in Game 5?

[egokiller]

They knew all along. They lied.

[3ball]

They knew all along. They lied.
If it was all innocent and the achilles injury was a surprise, then Bob Myers wouldn't have given any press conference - no one would've expected a special press conference and none would've been given, certainly not by the GM

But the KNOWLEDGE that something else was indeed going on is what led to the crocodile tears and pathetic display

it was a display of paranoia - it's like, "no Bob, we weren't flies on the wall and don't know what really happened - so relax and see the lie thru.. no need to panic"

[bigkingsfan]

Durant had his own doctors that confirmed the initial injury.

[3ball]

Durant had his own doctors that confirmed the initial injury.
They said the initial injury was a calf strain

So why was the 2nd injury assumed to be an achilles??? Where did the achilles assumption come from?

You think the achilles assumption came out of thin air? That makes no sense - it came from some prior knowledge

[Vino24]

They said the initial injury was a calf strain

So why was the 2nd injury assumed to be an achilles??? Where did the achilles assumption come from?

You think the achilles assumption came out of thin air? That's impossible
because it was obvious the way Durant went down and grabbed his Achilles :oldlol:

[StrongLurk]

Uh, because everyone SAW what happened.

Was clearly an Achilles injury...the fans were saying the same thing.

[3ball]

Uh, because everyone SAW what happened.

Was clearly an Achilles injury...the fans were saying the same thing.
Same thing happened the first time and it was called a calf strain

There was obviously prior knowledge of an achilles injury.. they pushed him back, and he foolishly obliged because he's a sensitive ****

[bigkingsfan]

They said the initial injury was a calf strain

So why was the 2nd injury assumed to be an achilles??? Where did the achilles assumption come from?
Watch the replay where he got injured, you can see that shit moving. He was carried off the court then put into a walking boot. Doctors did their initial diagnosis. You can draw your conclusion right there, the MRI was just a formality.

[StrongLurk]

Same thing happened the first time and it was called a calf strain

There was obviously prior knowledge of an achilles injury.. they pushed him back, and he foolishly obliged because he's a sensitive ****

No the injury against the Raptors was clearly worse.

[highwhey]

because you can clearly see it pop...https://twitter.com/ACLrecoveryCLUB/status/1138268211378450432

[3ball]

Watch the replay where he got injured, you can see that shit moving. He was carried off the court then put into a walking boot. Doctors did their initial diagnosis. You can your conclusion right there, the MRI was just a formality.
We can see through his socks and shoes now? gtfo.. and the movement was in his calf anyway, not his achilles

We saw it move the first time he got injured, and doctors called it a calf strain

But the 2nd time, the doctors knew it was an achilles before the MRI?

bullshit

There was obviously prior knowledge of an achilles injury.. they pushed him back, and he foolishly obliged because he's a sensitive ****

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Because he grabbed his achilles?

That and in the replay, you could see his leg pop. Similarly to an achilles rupture.

[PickernRoller]

Just like Kobe knew. You pop that sh1t you know. There is little to no room for confusion.

[HoopologyPhD]

I have also been thinking this, it is doubtful that a minor or even major calf sprain would lead to Durant missing so much time.

[bigkingsfan]

We can see through his socks and shoes now? gtfo

We saw it move the first time, and doctors called it a calf strain

But the 2nd time, the doctors knew it was an achilles before the MRI?

bullshit

There was obviously prior knowledge of an achilles injury.. they pushed him back, and he foolishly obliged because he's a sensitive ****
Nope, find one angle where you saw it move. Doctors can diagnose it was a calf or achilles, based on the area of pain, what don't you get?

[SamuraiSWISH]

because it was obvious the way Durant went down and grabbed his Achilles :oldlol:
He grabbed his Achilles on the initial injury, that

[3ball]

Because he grabbed his achilles?

That and in the replay, you could see his leg pop. Similarly to an achilles rupture.
He grabbed his achilles the first time too

And the replay of the 2nd injury shows movement in his calf, not his achilles - there's no way to diagnose an injury by looking at replay of a guy's sock - you guys need to come off that bullshit logic

Ultimately, the doctors called it a calf strain the first time... but the 2nd time, they knew it was an achilles before the MRI

That's bullshit

[3ball]

Nope, find one angle where you saw it move. Doctors can diagnose it was a calf or achilles, based on the area of pain, what don't you get?
the replay of the 2nd injury shows movement in his calf, not his achilles - there's simply no way to diagnose an injury by looking at replay of a guy's sock - you guys need to come off that bullshit logic

Ultimately, the doctors called it a calf strain the first time... but the 2nd time, they knew it was an achilles before the MRI

That's bullshit

[bigkingsfan]

the replay of the 2nd injury shows movement in his calf, not his achilles - there's simply no way to diagnose an injury by looking at replay of a guy's sock - you guys need to come off that bullshit logic

Ultimately, the doctors called it a calf strain the first time... but the 2nd time, they knew it was an achilles before the MRI

That's bullshit
Durant had his own doctors and 2nd opinion. So you're saying they both mis-diagnosed him the first time. Pass that tinfoil hat.

[3ball]

Durant had his own doctors and 2nd opinion. So you're saying they both mis-diagnosed him the first time. Pass that tinfoil hat.
The warriors called the 2nd incident a likely achilles injury before the game was over or right after, so the diagnosis occurred without MRI or 2nd opinion

the warriors just KNEW somehow, despite no MRI... :whatever:

[bigkingsfan]

The warriors called the 2nd incident a likely achilles injury before the game was over or right after, so the diagnosis occurred without MRI or 2nd opinion

the warriors just KNEW somehow, despite no MRI... :whatever:
Did you need an MRI to know that Hayward broke his ankle/leg?

[meat]

Maybe Durant TOLD them? It's his body, I'm sure he knows the difference between his calf hurting and his achilles popping.

[3ball]

Durant had his own doctors and 2nd opinion. So you're saying they both mis-diagnosed him the first time. Pass that tinfoil hat.


If they diagnosed the first injury as calf strain, then why assume an achilles for the 2nd incident?

Where did the achilles assumption come from if it was just a calf strain the first time?

Again, the replay showed movement in his calf, not achilles, and he grabbed his calf the same way both times - but it was a quick calf diagnosis the first time, and a quick achilles diagnosis the 2nd time

That's fishy.. infact, an outright lie.. no wonder Bob was sniveling like an 8 year old

[3ball]

Maybe Durant TOLD them? It's his body, I'm sure he knows the difference between his calf hurting and his achilles popping.
Oh I get it now.. Durant missed his calling as a doctor

Durant said he had a calf strain the first time, so the team reported it was a calf strain... then Durant diagnosed himself with an achilles tear, so the team reported an achilles

lol

Ultimately, the doctors called it a calf strain the first time... but the 2nd time, they knew it was an achilles before the MRI.. that's bs

[meat]

:facepalm

You know Durant can talk right? They probably asked him what he felt and he said something like "I felt something in my achilles, which is not my calf" They probably then put their hands on him and since they're doctors said something like "Oh shit, I can feel with my hands that tendon has snapped"

This is stupid.

[3ball]

Did you need an MRI to know that Hayward broke his ankle/leg?
The first injury looked like an achilles, but it was called a calf strain

but the 2nd time, they knew it was an achilles before the MRI..

that's bs

[Haymaker]

They did the Thompson Test. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simmonds%27_test

[meat]

Oh I get it now.. Durant missed his calling as a doctor

Durant said he had a calf strain the first time, so the team reported it was a calf strain... then Durant diagnosed himself with an achilles tear, so the team reported an achilles

lol

Ultimately, the doctors called it a calf strain the first time... but the 2nd time, they knew it was an achilles before the MRI.. that's bs

So 3ball breaks his arm and goes to the doctor. Doctor says "Whats wrong?"
3ball says "I don't know, something hurts". "What hurts?". "I don't know, I'm not a doctor, could be anything, you figure it out."

[bigkingsfan]

The first injury looked like an achilles, but it was called a calf strain

but the 2nd time, they knew it was an achilles before the MRI..

that's bs
MRI just confirms the injury and the severity. Once upon a time, doctors diagnose and performs surgery without MRI.

[ZenMaster]

Oh I get it now.. Durant missed his calling as a doctor

Durant said he had a calf strain the first time, so the team reported it was a calf strain... then Durant diagnosed himself with an achilles tear, so the team reported an achilles

lol

Ultimately, the doctors called it a calf strain the first time... but the 2nd time, they knew it was an achilles before the MRI.. that's bs

My guess would be that the team doctors asked him how it felt, and from him explaining the pop and how it now feels like his foot is missing connection to his leg, as well as whatever else they could do to examine him in the locker room, they could assume that it was probably an achillis tear.
I don't find that far fetched at all considering that doctors are pretty smart people.

[Levity]

So 3ball breaks his arm and goes to the doctor. Doctor says "Whats wrong?"
3ball says "I don't know, something hurts". "What hurts?". "I don't know, I'm not a doctor, could be anything, you figure it out."

:lol sounds like Larry David

[meat]

They did the Thompson Test. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simmonds%27_test


And there ya go. End thread. Go hang out with Kyrie and talk about flat earth, 3ball.

[sdot_thadon]

Probably because Op is an idiot.


because you can clearly see it pop...https://twitter.com/ACLrecoveryCLUB/status/1138268211378450432

This clip right here shows enough. The only way anything you're saying makes sense is if the original injury was an Achilles strain and they misdiagnosed it on purpose 3ball. Which frankly would be more idiotic than most of the stuff you post here and grounds for a monumental lawsuit.

[3ball]

:facepalm

You know Durant can talk right? They probably asked him what he felt and he said something like "I felt something in my achilles, which is not my calf" They probably then put their hands on him and since they're doctors said something like "Oh shit, I can feel with my hands that tendon has snapped"

This is stupid.
This may be true, but how were we all fortune tellers on this??

How did everyone know after the FIRST injury that his achilles was vulnerable?

Obviously, his achilles was injured the first time but the team hid this info and called it a calf injury

This also led to the quick achilles diagnosis after the 2nd incident - it was a quick conclusion that "oh shit, it happened.. he shot his achilles just like we knew he would"

[Uncle Drew]

How can one poster be so retarded? He’s trolling us.

[sdot_thadon]

[QUOTE=Uncle Drew]How can one poster be so retarded? He

[3ball]

How can one poster be so retarded? He’s trolling us.
If it was all innocent and the achilles injury was a surprise, no one would've expected a special press conference by the GM and none would've been given.. maybe a short statement by the team doctor, but the knowledge that something else was going on led to the crocodile tears and unusual display by the GM

it was a display of paranoia - it's like, "no Bob, we weren't flies on the wall and don't know what really happened - so relax and see the lie thru.. no need to panic"

[meat]

This may be true, but how were we all fortune tellers on this??

How did everyone know after the FIRST injury that his achilles was vulnerable?

Obviously, his achilles was injured the first time but the team hid this info and called it a calf injury

This also led to the quick achilles diagnosis after the 2nd incident - it was a quick conclusion that "oh shit, it happened.. he shot his achilles just like we knew he would"

You're moving goalposts. Nobody has claimed they knew his achilles was vulnerable. That's your own conspiracy theory.
And if you read the wiki Haymaker linked, the diagnosis seems pretty simple.
Check it out, there's even a picture to make it easier for you to understand!

[3ball]

You're moving goalposts. Nobody has claimed they knew his achilles was vulnerable. That's your own conspiracy theory.
And if you read the wiki Haymaker linked, the diagnosis seems pretty simple.
Check it out, there's even a picture to make it easier for you to understand!
Do you live in a cave???.... EVERYONE said the first incident looked like an achilles injury!

And that's why no one was surprised by the 2nd injury - it was like, "yeah, he'd already injured it and this was bound to happen"

[meat]

Do you live in a cave???.... EVERYONE said the first incident looked like an achilles injury!

And that's why no one was surprised by the 2nd injury - it was like, "yeah, he'd already injured it and this was bound to happen"

Perception and reality are two different things. Armchair quarterbacks know everything. Also, why would Durant go along with this conspiracy? You think he's that stupid that the doctors were checking out his achilles every day telling him it was a calf problem and it never occurred to him ... "Wait, that's not my calf"

[3ball]

Perception and reality are two different things. Armchair quarterbacks know everything. Also, why would Durant go along with this conspiracy? You think he's that stupid that the doctors were checking out his achilles every day telling him it was a calf problem and it never occurred to him ... "Wait, that's not my calf"
It isn't armchair quarterback

Everyone already knew his achilles was hurt before he got injured the 2nd time

[meat]

It isn't armchair quarterback

Everyone already knew his achilles was hurt before he got injured the 2nd time

Well, I didn't. What about Durant's post on instagram. He said it was his choice to be out there. I guess he's in on the conspiracy for ... reasons?
I give up.

[red1]

he had an icepack on his ankle as well.



they absolutely knew that there was some risk to his achilles.

[superduper]

I feel like most people stopped conspiring after Durant's IG post.

[3ball]

Well, I didn't. What about Durant's post on instagram. He said it was his choice to be out there. I guess he's in on the conspiracy for ... reasons?
I give up.
Durant doesn't realize he's been had

Happens all the time

But it'll sink in eventually that the Warriors ruined his legacy

[superduper]

Honestly I think it was all a ploy by the illuminati to take out the player that owns Bran's soul.

[3ball]

Honestly I think it was all a ploy by the illuminati to take out the player that owns Bran's soul.
Not necessary

Bran isn't a factor

But the Warriors will claim injury if they lose

That's bullshit though because Dray was out for 1 game in 2016 just like Klay this year, and everything else is the same.. Lebron's 16' Finals < Kawhi's 19'...... Kawhi did it with no superstar teammates

[3ball]

Chris Broussard outlines the Warriors' motivation for concealing Durant's achilles injury:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wRSu9ExOSdE&t=02m10s


So KD was in on it - they called it a calf strain so it wouldn't hurt his free agency, but pushed him to come back once down 3-1.. greedy dirtbags ruined KD's career

[meat]

Jesus christ. This is why I average one post a month. Now I gotta take 6 months off to keep my average intact.
:facepalm

[Smoke117]

An Achilles rupture is easily confirmed by a simple physical examination by a doctor, dumb ass. The MRI is just to get in an depth look and see how much damage was done.

[3ball]

An Achilles rupture is easily confirmed by a simple physical examination by a doctor, dumb ass. The MRI is just to get in an depth look and see how much damage was done.
Chris Broussard outlines the Warriors' motivation for concealing Durant's achilles injury:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wRSu9ExOSdE&t=02m10s


So KD was in on it - they called it a calf strain so it wouldn't hurt his free agency, but pushed him to come back once down 3-1.. greedy dirtbags ruined KD's career

[3ball]

^^^^^^ And that's why Durant is seemingly cool with the whole thing - it's because he helped conceal the initial achilles injury


https://media.giphy.com/media/Mp4hQy51LjY6A/giphy.gif

[Miles and Miles]

If the initial injury was a calf strain, then why would they assume it's an achilles immediately after he went down in Game 5?

I thought it was a calf strain - so why the random assumption about an achilles in Game 5?

The FIRST injury was an obvious Achilles injury. They hid this from the public so everyone wouldn't freak out when he tried to come back. It was obvious from when he went down the first go around that he has some level of Achilles problem. Then you can see him applying ice and/or heat to the Achilles (not the calf) before he tore it.

[3ball]

The FIRST injury was an obvious Achilles injury. They hid this from the public so everyone wouldn't freak out when he tried to come back. It was obvious from when he went down the first go around that he has some level of Achilles problem. Then you can see him applying ice and/or heat to the Achilles (not the calf) before he tore it.
Exactly - and Chris Broussard outlines the Warriors' motivation for concealing Durant's achilles injury:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wRSu9ExOSdE&t=02m10s


So KD was in on it - they called it a calf strain so it wouldn't hurt his free agency, but pushed him to come back once down 3-1.. greedy dirtbags ruined KD's career

^^^^^^ And that's why Durant is seemingly cool with the whole thing - it's because he helped conceal the initial achilles injury

[Miles and Miles]

Exactly - and Chris Broussard outlines the Warriors' motivation for concealing Durant's achilles injury:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wRSu9ExOSdE&t=02m10s


So KD was in on it - they called it a calf strain so it wouldn't hurt his free agency, but pushed him to come back once down 3-1.. greedy dirtbags ruined KD's career

^^^^^^ And that's why Durant is seemingly cool with the whole thing - it's because he helped conceal the initial achilles injury

They won't all be cool once free agency hits. There will be some shots fired at both sides and maybe some lawsuits from Durant's camp toward doctors and GSW.

[3ball]

They won't all be cool once free agency hits. There will be some shots fired at both sides and maybe some lawsuits from Durant's camp toward doctors and GSW.
Exactly

And Steve Kerr incriminated the medical staff by saying everyone including Durant were "SHOCKED" at the achilles injury - they were told that durant could only re-injure the calf, so nothing to do with the achilles... That's obvious malpractice because it's common knowledge that calf and achilles injuries are related

So either the doctors committed obvious malpractice, or everyone knew it was an achilles injury for over a month but concealed it to protect KD's free agency viability

It's obviously the latter (cover-up) because that's where the dollar signs point

Here's Chris Carter describing it best:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DE32JdLP68k