Rate Leonard's 4th quarter play these Finals

[ArbitraryWater]

In game 2 he scored 6 points on 1-6 shooting (5 points minus technical FT) as the Warriors went scoreless for 5+ minutes.

Scoreless the last 3 minutes of game 5 going 0-2 + big defensive mistake of biting on Thompson's eventual open game winner, but a great 10-0 run before.

In game 6 he scored 0 points on 0-4 shooting (barring last second intentional foul FT's), scoreless going 0-4 of a thoroughly 1-2 possession game, as his teammates scored 25 points.



Games 1 and 3 were blow-outs and mostly garbage time or close to it.


Will every 4th quarter lowlight until the end of times be compared and validated by pointing to James' 2011 finals?

Interesting.

[SouBeachTalents]

Let

[superduper]

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[bullettooth]

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[MrFonzworth]

Better than LeBron in 2011.

[TheMan]

So sad watching these failed attempts at throwing shade at KL :lol

Their King is the king of 4th quarter fails from that pathetic 2011 Finals, gon' be a long time before anyone tops that :oldlol:

[superduper]

So sad watching these failed attempts at throwing shade at KL :lol

Their King is the king of 4th quarter fails from that pathetic 2011 Finals, gon' be a long time before anyone tops that :oldlol:

The Bran stan insecurities this year have been fking hilarious :oldlol:

[ArbitraryWater]

Okay, right, 2011 LeBron sucked. Got it.


So, moving on to Leonard?

Or nah? :lol

[MrFonzworth]

The consensus is that it was better than 2011 LeCarpet:applause:

[G0ATbe]

Things like this only matter if its lebron

[ArbitraryWater]

The consensus is that it was better than 2011 LeCarpet:applause:

you dont understand...

not ranked, rated.

If you have any further difficulties, let me know :cheers:

[aj1987]

Out of 10? I would give his 4th Q's either a 4 or a 5.

[superduper]

I rate it a 3/9, OP.

[Mr Feeny]

I rate it a 3/9, OP.

Cant believe it's taken this long:lol

[dazzer87]

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[SpaceJam2]

Things like this only matter if its lebron

[ArbitraryWater]

ISH anti-LBJ when Kawhi or any other Superstar sucks in the 4th quarter


https://media0.giphy.com/media/3ohjUQ81edgmV8Gu40/giphy.gif


'flectingggg

[SpaceJam2]

ISH anti-LBJ when Kawhi or any other Superstar sucks in the 4th quarter


https://media0.giphy.com/media/3ohjUQ81edgmV8Gu40/giphy.gif


'flectingggg

So true


They wont face reality :lol

[ArbitraryWater]

So true


They wont face reality :lol


a life of delusion, very scary when you think about it, cause it shows they could apply the same for other problems they face

[Uncle Drew]

You see, this is when they shoot themselves in the foot. Any time Kawhit scores a basket they sprint to their computers to tell us so and make threads he's surpassed him, that guy and the third, but once he does bad they ignore it. And with that, they admit that Kawhit isn't up to the same standards and thus hasn't done much to be compared to the greatest player of all time that is LeBron James.

[aj1987]

You see, this is when they shoot themselves in the foot. Any time Kawhit scores a basket they sprint to their computers to tell us so and make threads he's surpassed him, that guy and the third, but once he does bad they ignore it. And with that, they admit that Kawhit isn't up to the same standards and thus hasn't done much to be compared to the greatest player of all time that is LeBron James.
Kawhi has had like 2 elite RS and 2 elite PO runs. Dude is borderline top 40 at best today. He needs longevity to crack into the top 20.

With that being said. Imagine if a team with LeBron went 17-5 WITHOUT him. ISH wouldn't recover from the initial crash.

[3ball]

Okay, right, 2011 LeBron sucked. Got it.


So, moving on to Leonard?

Or nah? :lol

4th quarter in Finals

Lebron 2011:. 3.3 pts on 33%
Lebron 2014:. 3.6 pts on 41%
Lebron 2017:. 5.4 pts on 46%

Kawhi 2014:. 4.4 pts on 88%
Kawhi 2019:. 6.2 pts on 41%


^^^ That's not a typo - Kawhi shot 88% in the 4th quarter of 2014 Finals

He's obviously much better than Lebron in the 4th

Btw, in the 14' Finals, Lebron scored 62% of his points when the Heat were down 15+ (#padcity)

[aj1987]

4th quarter in Finals

Lebron 2011:. 3.3 pts on 33%
Lebron 2014:. 3.6 pts on 41%
Lebron 2017:. 5.4 pts on 46%

Kawhi 2014:. 4.4 pts on 88%
Kawhi 2019:. 6.2 pts on 41%


^^^ That's not a typo - Kawhi shot 88% in the 4th quarter of 2014 Finals

Why did you leave out '07?

LeBron in '07 in the 4th Q's - 9.8 PPG on 45%

Why did you leave out '13?

LeBron in '13 in the 4th Q's - 7.7 PPG on 56%

Why did you leave out '15?

LeBron in '15 in the 4th Q's - 10.2 PPG on 40%

Why did you leave out '16?

LeBron in '16 in the 4th Q's - 9.5 PPG on 50%

Why did you leave out '18?

LeBron in the 4th Q's in '18 - 8.8 PPG on 63.2 PPG

Lets not forget that LeBron wasn't being guarded by a gimpy Klay or Iggy in most of those Finals. It was an FMVP Iggy, DPOY Green, KD, Kawhi, etc..



He's obviously much better than Lebron in the 4th
Not even remotely close. LeBron has more buzzer beaters in the PO's than Kobe AND Ordan. Not to mention that he's more clutch in the PO's that either of them with 24 seconds left.

Those are facts, retard.


Btw, in the 14' Finals, Lebron scored 62% of his points when the Heat were down 15+ (#padcity)
LeBron in the '14 Finals was better than Ordan in '96. Only difference is that Ordan had two FMVP level players in Rodman and Pippen to save him.

That being said, LeBron scored pretty much nothing when the game was done. That's why his 4th Q stats are low in '14. He didn't score after his team was pretty much put away.

Meanwhile, going by YOUR logic, Kawhi has scoring 4.4 PPG on 88% after the games were pretty much decided.

No wonder you're an Ordan turd, you low IQ maggot.

[jstern]

What I liked about Leonard's 4th quarters this series is that Golden State didn't employed the disrespectful Popovich strategy of just let him shoot.

[Doranku]

Are those numbers for '07 correct? How tf did he average 10 on 45% in the 4th when he averaged 22 on 36% for the series?

That's like 12 points on 25% for the first 3 quarters. :lol

[Grey Dawn]

The Bran stan insecurities this year have been fking hilarious :oldlol:

This. These goofs with thread after thread of topics about other players that are really about their butthurt Lebronism

[aj1987]

Are those numbers for '07 correct? How tf did he average 10 on 45% in the 4th when he averaged 22 on 36% for the series?

That's like 12 points on 25% for the first 3 quarters. :lol
If I **** up I will admit it, but I never fudge the stats that I post.


https://i.postimg.cc/nrPFbNc9/2007.png

[stalkerforlife]

Bransvestites super insecure after Kawhi surpassed Bran all time.

[ArbitraryWater]

4th quarter in Finals

Lebron 2011:. 3.3 pts on 33%
Lebron 2014:. 3.6 pts on 41%
Lebron 2017:. 5.4 pts on 46%

Kawhi 2014:. 4.4 pts on 88%
Kawhi 2019:. 6.2 pts on 41%


^^^ That's not a typo - Kawhi shot 88% in the 4th quarter of 2014 Finals

He's obviously much better than Lebron in the 4th

Btw, in the 14' Finals, Lebron scored 62% of his points when the Heat were down 15+ (#padcity)

i thought the 2014 4th quarters were blowouts?

if he scores = stat padding
if he doesnt = choking

?

makes no sense.

damned if you do, damned if you dont

[SpaceJam2]

Bransvestites super insecure after Kawhi surpassed Bran all time.

Kawhi has definitely passed Kobe. Let that sink in

[ArbitraryWater]

You see, this is when they shoot themselves in the foot. Any time Kawhit scores a basket they sprint to their computers to tell us so and make threads he's surpassed him, that guy and the third, but once he does bad they ignore it. And with that, they admit that Kawhit isn't up to the same standards and thus hasn't done much to be compared to the greatest player of all time that is LeBron James.

they revert back to "STATS!!" whenever they dont like something as obvious as this

[SomeBlackDude]

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Better than LeBron in 2011.

op set himself up badly on this one.

arb, brudda... have you not read lestan manual?

what are you doing bruh?

:confusedshrug:

[ArbitraryWater]

op set himself up badly on this one.

arb, brudda... have you not read lestan manual?

what are you doing bruh?

:confusedshrug:

sorry, not giving you guys the satisfaction of not having to explain your backfiring rooting interests and projections :confusedshrug:

[SpaceJam2]

So is anyone going to

Rate Leonard's 4th quarter play these Finals

Anyone?

[ArbitraryWater]

So is anyone going to

Rate Leonard's 4th quarter play these Finals

Anyone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8E_zMLCRNg

[dazzer87]

So is anyone going to

Rate Leonard's 4th quarter play these Finals

Anyone?
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/Funny%20NBA%20Record/Lebron%20James/aka%20big%20choker/lebron_james_dirk_nowitzki_2011_final_nba.jpg

[ArbitraryWater]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8E_zMLCRNg

[3ball]

Why did you leave out '07?

LeBron in '07 in the 4th Q's - 9.8 PPG on 45%

Why did you leave out '13?

LeBron in '13 in the 4th Q's - 7.7 PPG on 56%

Why did you leave out '15?

LeBron in '15 in the 4th Q's - 10.2 PPG on 40%

Why did you leave out '16?

LeBron in '16 in the 4th Q's - 9.5 PPG on 50%

Why did you leave out '18?

LeBron in the 4th Q's in '18 - 8.8 PPG on 63.2 PPG


You don't get it - ONE FINALS is all it takes to get a bad reputation in 4th quarters

And Lebron has 3 Finals where he averaged 3-5 pts in the 4th..... THREE finals - that's 2 more than is needed to earn a bad rep for 4th quarter play

Otoh - in 1997 and 1998, MJ averaged at least than 8.3 pts in the 4th for every conference finals or Finals... Infact, 8.3 was his lowest for every series in the 97' or 98' playoffs, except a 5-game blowout series in the 97' ECSF





Not to mention that he's more clutch in the PO's that either of them with 24 seconds left.



Yeah right - he rarely hits compared to MJ



https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-08-2019/eY2j3S.gif





Lebron's stats late in tight games (clutch stats).



Playoff shots in last 5 minutes, within 5 points, since 2001


134-323 for Lebron.. 41.4%
108 games.. 3.0 attempts per game

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&match=play&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&is_playoffs=Y&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=5&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=-5&margin_max=5&player_id=jamesle01&order_by=date_game


Jordan 1997 Playoffs (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals):. 20-39.. 51.3% (11 games)
Jordan 1998 Playoffs (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals):. 22-50.. 44.0% (14 games)

42-89 for MJ.. 47.2%
25 games.. 3.6 attempts per game..


So old MJ shot much better in tight games on 20% more clutch attempts.. :bowdown:





LeBron has more buzzer beaters in the PO's than Jordan.


Lebron's frequency of game-winners is poor compared to MJ, and none of his winners are late in the series or in the championship - lebron only hits "low-leverage" winners, while MJ has several legendary, all-time great winners





LeBron in the '14 Finals was better than Ordan in '96. Only difference is that Ordan had two FMVP level players in Rodman and Pippen to save him.


Pippen averaged 15 on 34% in the 96' Finals - the worst 2nd option performance in the history of the Finals

But MJ still won because he scores with great teamwork, while Lebron's stats are achieved with bad teamwork

[Mr Feeny]

You don't get it - ONE FINALS is all it takes to get a bad reputation in 4th quarters

And Lebron has 3 Finals where he averaged 3-5 pts in the 4th..... THREE finals - that's 2 more than is needed to earn a bad rep for 4th quarter play

Otoh - in 1997 and 1998, MJ averaged at least than 8.3 pts in the 4th for every conference finals or Finals... Infact, 8.3 was his lowest for every series in the 97' or 98' playoffs, except a 5-game blowout series in the 97' ECSF




Yeah right - he rarely hits compared to MJ



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Playoff shots in last 5 minutes, within 5 points, since 2001


134-323 for Lebron.. 41.4%
108 games.. 3.0 attempts per game

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&match=play&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&is_playoffs=Y&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=5&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=-5&margin_max=5&player_id=jamesle01&order_by=date_game


Jordan 1997 Playoffs (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals):. 20-39.. 51.3% (11 games)
Jordan 1998 Playoffs (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals):. 22-50.. 44.0% (14 games)

42-89 for MJ.. 47.2%
25 games.. 3.6 attempts per game..


So old MJ shot much better in tight games on 20% more clutch attempts.. :bowdown:



Lebron's frequency of game-winners is poor compared to MJ, and none of his winners are late in the series or in the championship - lebron only hits "low-leverage" winners, while MJ has several legendary, all-time great winners



Pippen averaged 15 on 34% in the 96' Finals - the worst 2nd option performance in the history of the Finals

But MJ still won because he scores with great teamwork, while Lebron's stats are achieved with bad teamwork

You're talking to a kid. They didnt broadcast the games in India, where he's from, during the 90s, so he never watched a single game that you're talking about. So he can discuss box scores with you. But not the games.

[sportjames23]

So is anyone going to

Rate Leonard's 4th quarter play these Finals

Anyone?

Did it result in a championship and Finals MVP? Ok, then.

[aj1987]

You don't get it - ONE FINALS is all it takes to get a bad reputation in 4th quarters
That's not how basketball works, you autistic ****. Duncan has almost always been bad in the 4th Q's in the Finals. Has ANYONE ever brought that up? Kobe was absolutely dreadful in the 4th Q's of the vast majority of his Finals. Did you ever bring that up?

Heck, your lover shot 37.5% in the '98 Finals in the 4th Q's. So, does he have a bad reputation in the 4th Q's, retard?


And Lebron has 3 Finals where he averaged 3-5 pts in the 4th..... THREE finals - that's 2 more than is needed to earn a bad rep for 4th quarter play
Again, that's not how any of this works. '11 was legit bad and I not even going to touch that. In '14 and '17, most of the games were blowouts. If LeBron actually scored a bunch of points in the 4th Q's, after the game were already done, you'd be having a bitch fit over here, crying about how LeBron statpadded.


Otoh - in 1997 and 1998, MJ averaged at least than 8.3 pts in the 4th for every conference finals or Finals... Infact, 8.3 was his lowest for every series in the 97' or 98' playoffs, except a 5-game blowout series in the 97' ECSF
Care to post the shooting percentages? Love how you posted the shooting percentages for LeBron and Kawhi, but chose to ignore it for Ordan in '98. Also love how you changed it from just the Finals to now including the conference Finals. Do you want to bring up the 4 PPG on 30% from the '97 2nd round?




Yeah right - he rarely hits compared to MJ
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Playoff shots in last 5 minutes, within 5 points, since 2001


[QUOTE=3ball]134-323 for Lebron.. 41.4%
108 games.. 3.0 attempts per game

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&match=play&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&is_playoffs=Y&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=5&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=-5&margin_max=5&player_id=jamesle01&order_by=date_game


Jordan 1997 Playoffs (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals):. 20-39.. 51.3% (11 games)
Jordan 1998 Playoffs (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals):. 22-50.. 44.0% (14 games)

42-89 for MJ.. 47.2%
25 games.. 3.6 attempts per game..


So old MJ shot much better in tight games on 20% more clutch attempts.. :bowdown:
Why are you arbitrarily cutting it off at the last 5 minutes? Lets look at the final 5 seconds, when it really matters.

LeBron - 6 makes on 13 attempts with 5 seconds left on go ahead shots

46%

Jordan - 5 makes on 11 attempts with 5 seconds left on go ahead shots

45%

Also, you keep doing this and you always keep getting called out for it, you basement dwelling retard. LeBron shot 41.79% in the final 5 minutes of the 4th Q's. You're making up numbers again, thinking that no one's going to check.




Pippen averaged 15 on 34% in the 96' Finals - the worst 2nd option performance in the history of the Finals
And Rodman stepped up and was getting FMVP talks. I really wonder how the voting went that year for the Finals MVP.

https://www.nytimes.com/1996/06/08/sports/nba-finals-once-again-rodman-is-most-valuable-bull.html

Lets not forget that Pippen was getting FMVP talks in '98.



But MJ still won because he scores with great teamwork, while Lebron's stats are achieved with bad teamwork
MJ won because he was carried by Pippen. There's a reason why he never made it out of the first round or was in the lottery without Pippen.


Lets ignore all this for a minute and go back to your original shit post. Why did you cherrypick those years for LeBron?

Why not these:

Why did you leave out '07?

LeBron in '07 in the 4th Q's - 9.8 PPG on 45%

Why did you leave out '13?

LeBron in '13 in the 4th Q's - 7.7 PPG on 56%

Why did you leave out '15?

LeBron in '15 in the 4th Q's - 10.2 PPG on 40%

Why did you leave out '16?

LeBron in '16 in the 4th Q's - 9.5 PPG on 50%

Why did you leave out '18?

LeBron in the 4th Q's in '18 - 8.8 PPG on 63.2 PPG


You're talking to a kid. They didnt broadcast the games in India, where he's from, during the 90s, so he never watched a single game that you're talking about. So he can discuss box scores with you. But not the games.
Are you still on the rag, little girl? Run along now, the adults are talking.

[Mr Feeny]

Look at the meltdown by the curry eating kid.

[aj1987]

Look at the meltdown by the curry eating kid.
Still crying, little girl? :oldlol:

[Mr Feeny]

Still crying, little girl? :oldlol:

Have some curry.

[Elosha]

Have some curry.

Man, that's cold. Don't do him like that. :lol

[Elosha]

You don't get it - ONE FINALS is all it takes to get a bad reputation in 4th quarters

And Lebron has 3 Finals where he averaged 3-5 pts in the 4th..... THREE finals - that's 2 more than is needed to earn a bad rep for 4th quarter play

Otoh - in 1997 and 1998, MJ averaged at least than 8.3 pts in the 4th for every conference finals or Finals... Infact, 8.3 was his lowest for every series in the 97' or 98' playoffs, except a 5-game blowout series in the 97' ECSF




Yeah right - he rarely hits compared to MJ



https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-08-2019/eY2j3S.gif




Playoff shots in last 5 minutes, within 5 points, since 2001


134-323 for Lebron.. 41.4%
108 games.. 3.0 attempts per game

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&match=play&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&is_playoffs=Y&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=5&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=-5&margin_max=5&player_id=jamesle01&order_by=date_game


Jordan 1997 Playoffs (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals):. 20-39.. 51.3% (11 games)
Jordan 1998 Playoffs (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals):. 22-50.. 44.0% (14 games)

42-89 for MJ.. 47.2%
25 games.. 3.6 attempts per game..


So old MJ shot much better in tight games on 20% more clutch attempts.. :bowdown:



Lebron's frequency of game-winners is poor compared to MJ, and none of his winners are late in the series or in the championship - lebron only hits "low-leverage" winners, while MJ has several legendary, all-time great winners



Pippen averaged 15 on 34% in the 96' Finals - the worst 2nd option performance in the history of the Finals

But MJ still won because he scores with great teamwork, while Lebron's stats are achieved with bad teamwork

Sorry AJ1987, but it's pretty hard to argue with any of this. LeBron's a great, great player. But he's not on MJ's level and never will be. It's not an insult, appreciate LeBron for what he is/was. :confusedshrug:

[stalkerforlife]

You don't get it - ONE FINALS is all it takes to get a bad reputation in 4th quarters

And Lebron has 3 Finals where he averaged 3-5 pts in the 4th..... THREE finals - that's 2 more than is needed to earn a bad rep for 4th quarter play

Otoh - in 1997 and 1998, MJ averaged at least than 8.3 pts in the 4th for every conference finals or Finals... Infact, 8.3 was his lowest for every series in the 97' or 98' playoffs, except a 5-game blowout series in the 97' ECSF




Yeah right - he rarely hits compared to MJ



https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-08-2019/eY2j3S.gif




Playoff shots in last 5 minutes, within 5 points, since 2001


134-323 for Lebron.. 41.4%
108 games.. 3.0 attempts per game

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&match=play&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&is_playoffs=Y&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=5&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=-5&margin_max=5&player_id=jamesle01&order_by=date_game


Jordan 1997 Playoffs (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals):. 20-39.. 51.3% (11 games)
Jordan 1998 Playoffs (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals):. 22-50.. 44.0% (14 games)

42-89 for MJ.. 47.2%
25 games.. 3.6 attempts per game..


So old MJ shot much better in tight games on 20% more clutch attempts.. :bowdown:



Lebron's frequency of game-winners is poor compared to MJ, and none of his winners are late in the series or in the championship - lebron only hits "low-leverage" winners, while MJ has several legendary, all-time great winners



Pippen averaged 15 on 34% in the 96' Finals - the worst 2nd option performance in the history of the Finals

But MJ still won because he scores with great teamwork, while Lebron's stats are achieved with bad teamwork

That even hurt my feelings and I'm in agreement.

:biggums:

[Kingwillball]

Was ok not great. Had a couple good 4th qtrs. Nothing out of ordinary. Not bad not amazing just like he was in series at times was great at times was average.

[stalkerforlife]

I give him a 4 out of 2.

[aj1987]

Have some curry.
I do have it on a regular basis. Curry is ****ing amazing. I'm sorry that you're incapable of affording anything over a McDonald's Burger. Hit me up the next time you're in NY or India. I'll get you some amazing curry. Probably the best ever.

This is a genuine offer. No hate at all. :cheers:


Sorry AJ1987, but it's pretty hard to argue with any of this. LeBron's a great, great player. But he's not on MJ's level and never will be. It's not an insult, appreciate LeBron for what he is/was. :confusedshrug:

I literally never called LeBron the GOAT outside 4-5 troll posts. And that's 4-5 posts out of over 20,000. I've always had MJ is the GOAT and I ALWAYS say that LeBron is a top 3-4 GOAT.

I really doubt that I ever legit even ranked LeBron in the top 2.



Playoff shots in last 5 minutes, within 5 points, since 2001
That's not how basketball works, you autistic ****. Duncan has almost always been bad in the 4th Q's in the Finals. Has ANYONE ever brought that up? Kobe was absolutely dreadful in the 4th Q's of the vast majority of his Finals. Did you ever bring that up?

Heck, your lover shot 37.5% in the '98 Finals in the 4th Q's. So, does he have a bad reputation in the 4th Q's, retard?


Again, that's not how any of this works. '11 was legit bad and I not even going to touch that. In '14 and '17, most of the games were blowouts. If LeBron actually scored a bunch of points in the 4th Q's, after the game were already done, you'd be having a bitch fit over here, crying about how LeBron statpadded.
Care to post the shooting percentages? Love how you posted the shooting percentages for LeBron and Kawhi, but chose to ignore it for Ordan in '98. Also love how you changed it from just the Finals to now including the conference Finals. Do you want to bring up the 4 PPG on 30% from the '97 2nd round?

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NtKS8YR5ioo/maxresdefault.jpg

Why are you arbitrarily cutting it off at the last 5 minutes? Lets look at the final 5 seconds, when it really matters.

LeBron - 6 makes on 13 attempts with 5 seconds left on go ahead shots

46%

Jordan - 5 makes on 11 attempts with 5 seconds left on go ahead shots

45%

Also, you keep doing this and you always keep getting called out for it, you basement dwelling retard. LeBron shot 41.79% in the final 5 minutes of the 4th Q's. You're making up numbers again, thinking that no one's going to check.




And Rodman stepped up and was getting FMVP talks. I really wonder how the voting went that year for the Finals MVP.

https://www.nytimes.com/1996/06/08/sports/nba-finals-once-again-rodman-is-most-valuable-bull.html

Lets not forget that Pippen was getting FMVP talks in '98.



MJ won because he was carried by Pippen. There's a reason why he never made it out of the first round or was in the lottery without Pippen.


Lets ignore all this for a minute and go back to your original shit post. Why did you cherrypick those years for LeBron?

Why not these:

Why did you leave out '07?

LeBron in '07 in the 4th Q's - 9.8 PPG on 45%

Why did you leave out '13?

LeBron in '13 in the 4th Q's - 7.7 PPG on 56%

Why did you leave out '15?

LeBron in '15 in the 4th Q's - 10.2 PPG on 40%

Why did you leave out '16?

LeBron in '16 in the 4th Q's - 9.5 PPG on 50%

Why did you leave out '18?

LeBron in the 4th Q's in '18 - 8.8 PPG on 63.2 PPG


Are you still on the rag, little girl? Run along now, the adults are talking.[/QUOTE]

[egokiller]

I do have it on a regular basis. Curry is ****ing amazing. I'm sorry that you're incapable of affording anything over a McDonald's Burger. Hit me up the next time you're in NY or India. I'll get you some amazing curry. Probably the best ever.

Actually tbh you haven't even had the best Curry until you've sat your happy ass at Chatni in Montclair and asked the great Chef Madhukar to serve it. Tell him egokiller sent you.

http://i65.tinypic.com/2up48p1.jpg

http://i65.tinypic.com/1z73lsn.jpg

[SamuraiSWISH]

You're talking to a kid. They didnt broadcast the games in India, where he's from, during the 90s, so he never watched a single game that you're talking about. So he can discuss box scores with you. But not the games.
:oldlol: :applause:

If I want to hear an uninformed non ball playing Indian talk about basketball ... I’ll ask questions next time I get a slushee at 7-11.

[aj1987]

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]:oldlol: :applause:

If I want to hear an uninformed non ball playing Indian talk about basketball ... I

[egokiller]

You are just embarrassing yourself, janitor. Sad.

Not at all cabbie. If anything, it's your loss if you don't go there and have the curry. Especially considering the fact that it's not even that far from you.


How about you actually watch basketball, instead of pretending to be a coach on a message board and defending an NBA players dick size.

He's not the one that was posting images of LeBron's dick and comparing the sizes of LeBron's forearm to his junk like Dray n Klay was in an effort to make it appear as if Lebron wasn't small in the pants. :roll:

The things le***** stans do to pretend their hero's dick is longer than 4 inches. :roll:

[aj1987]

Not at all cabbie. If anything, it's your loss if you don't go there and have the curry. Especially considering the fact that it's not even that far from you.
Stop Googling Indian restaurants and get back to work, toilet boy.


He's not the one that was posting images of LeBron's dick and comparing the sizes of LeBron's forearm to his junk like Dray n Klay was in an effort to make it appear as if Lebron wasn't small in the pants. :roll:

The things le***** stans do to pretend their hero's dick is longer than 4 inches. :roll:
Jesus. Another Ordan turd melting down over another mans ***** size, and defending another man over his defense of another players' manhood.

This is beyond pathetic now. :facepalm

[egokiller]

And there you have it.

The things le***** stans do to pretend their hero's dick is longer than 4 inches. :facepalm

[aj1987]

And there you have it.

The things le***** stans do to pretend their hero's dick is longer than 4 inches. :facepalm
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

This dude out here melting down over a random dude's manhood. :facepalm

[AussieSteve]

4th quarter in Finals

Lebron 2011:. 3.3 pts on 33%
Lebron 2014:. 3.6 pts on 41%
Lebron 2017:. 5.4 pts on 46%

Kawhi 2014:. 4.4 pts on 88%
Kawhi 2019:. 6.2 pts on 41%


^^^ That's not a typo - Kawhi shot 88% in the 4th quarter of 2014 Finals

He's obviously much better than Lebron in the 4th

Btw, in the 14' Finals, Lebron scored 62% of his points when the Heat were down 15+ (#padcity)


Disparaging LeBron for stat padding (when he actually didn't) in one thread. Praising Kawhi for doing it in another.

88% in blow out 4th quarters with margin st 13+ and 3ball riding kawhi' s nuts for it.

25ppg in the first 3 quarters of the same games and 3ball calls it stat padding... cos it's lebron of course.

[Cleverness]

So is anyone going to

Rate Leonard's 4th quarter play these Finals

Anyone?

I will. Leonard's 4th quarter play was invisible. That's my rating.

Almost forgot he was even in the game until he gets away with a pushoff or travel. The most memorable moment was probably the pass out of the double team that ended up with Lowry missing the 3. That's his signature 4th quarter moment.


If Warriors healthy, the headline is: "Kawhi can't finish the deal in Toronto." Always funny to me that we rank players largely based on how other players perform.

Here's how I'll remember Kawhi's 4th quarters:

Game 1: No KD
Game 2: No KD, no Klay, no Looney
Game 3: No KD, no Klay
Game 4: No KD
Game 5: No KD, no Looney
Game 6: No KD, no Klay

Here's how the world will remember Kawhi's 4th quarters:

he won

[TheCorporation]

He is not on goat tier therefore not judged/rated under goat tier

The bar has been set. LeBar :eek:

[TheCorporation]

Disparaging LeBron for stat padding (when he actually didn't) in one thread. Praising Kawhi for doing it in another.

88% in blow out 4th quarters with margin st 13+ and 3ball riding kawhi' s nuts for it.

25ppg in the first 3 quarters of the same games and 3ball calls it stat padding... cos it's lebron of course.

Once again, 3ball busted for his blatant hypocrisy and madness :lol

[Wally450]

Disparaging LeBron for stat padding (when he actually didn't) in one thread. Praising Kawhi for doing it in another.

88% in blow out 4th quarters with margin st 13+ and 3ball riding kawhi' s nuts for it.

25ppg in the first 3 quarters of the same games and 3ball calls it stat padding... cos it's lebron of course.


Catching bodies out here with that post.

RIP 2ball

[3ball]

Once again, 3ball busted for his blatant hypocrisy and madness :lol
Not at all - I showed that Kawhi was still better than lebron in the 4th, despite neither being that good

Kawhi is simply better - a better iso/1-on-1 player and a better team/5-on-5 player.. what else is there?.. Kawhi is just better

[Mr Feeny]

Not at all - I showed that Kawhi was still better than lebron in the 4th, despite neither being that good

Kawhi is simply better - a better iso/1-on-1 player and a better team/5-on-5 player.. what else is there?.. Kawhi is just better

At this point, it's clear that he's better. But you claiming that he passed Lebron on the all time list is a little over the top.

[3ball]

At this point, it's clear that he's better. But you claiming that he passed Lebron on the all time list is a little over the top.
He passed lebron on my all-time list

But obviously, I understand that most people overlook his manufactured Finals runs and the 3/9-caliber teams that his narrow, AAU skillset and non-elite shooting yields.. :confusedshrug:

If Ray allen or kyrie misses those shots, I doubt you'd be disputing me and everything I just said would seem like legit explanation for the 1/9 Finals record

[Mr Feeny]

He passed lebron on my all-time list

But obviously, I understand that most people overlook his manufactured Finals runs and the 3/9-caliber teams that his narrow, AAU skillset and non-elite shooting yields.. :confusedshrug:

If Ray allen or kyrie misses those shots, I doubt you'd be disputing me and everything I just said would seem like legit explanation for the 1/9 Finals record

Fair enough. It's a matter of opinion.

[3ball]

Fair enough. It's a matter of opinion.
I'm curious - if allen or kyrie missed those shots and he was 2/9, or if both missed and he was 1/9, do you think people would still think he's top 5 or a legit goat candidate?

[aj1987]

He passed lebron on my all-time list

But obviously, I understand that most people overlook his manufactured Finals runs and the 3/9-caliber teams that his narrow, AAU skillset and non-elite shooting yields.. :confusedshrug:

If Ray allen or kyrie misses those shots, I doubt you'd be disputing me and everything I just said would seem like legit explanation for the 1/9 Finals record
You have Kawhi in your top 8? I know for a fact that you have LeBron ranked #8, so I'm assuming that you have Kawhi over the likes of - Dr. J, Moses, Wilt, Hakeem, KD, etc.?


I'm curious - if allen or kyrie missed those shots and he was 2/9, or if both missed and he was 1/9, do you think people would still think he's top 5 or a legit goat candidate?
Even if Kyrie missed his shot, the scores were tied, you braindead ******.

[red1]

I rate his play BTL /10


better than lebron / 10

[And1AllDay]

Issa good thing he will pair with LeBron the clutch king becos he needs help late

[3ball]

You have Kawhi in your top 8? I know for a fact that you have LeBron ranked #8, so I'm assuming that you have Kawhi over the likes of - Dr. J, Moses, Wilt, Hakeem, KD, etc.?



1. MJ
2. Wilt
3. Bird
4. Magic
5. Kobe
6. Kareem
7. Shaq
8. Russell
9. Duncan
10) Durant
11) Hakeem
12) Kawhi
13) Bob Pettit
14) Moses
15) Dirk


Nearly all these players had better teams given equal or worse casts except a couple guys who had better casts (Russell, Magic, Kareem), but better stats, accolades, and/or winning





Even if Kyrie missed his shot, the scores were tied, you braindead ******.


He saved Lebron.. so did ray

[Uncle Drew]

3ball meltdowns at 3 am, beautiful.

[SpaceJam2]

3ball meltdowns at 3 am, beautiful.

Nothin finer :pimp:

[aj1987]

1. MJ
2. Wilt
3. Bird
4. Magic
5. Kobe
6. Kareem
7. Shaq
8. Russell
9. Duncan
10) Durant
11) Hakeem
12) Kawhi
13) Bob Pettit
14) Moses
15) Dirk

Nearly all these players had better teams given equal or worse casts except a couple guys who had better casts (Russell, Magic, Kareem), but better stats, accolades, and/or winning
Please go jump of a cliff.




He saved Lebron.. so did ray
Dad killer without Pippen never made it past the first round. The ball hogging cancer was getting eviscerated and making the PO's on joke 30 win teams. :confusedshrug:

[SouBeachTalents]

1. MJ
2. Wilt
3. Bird
4. Magic
5. Kobe
6. Kareem
7. Shaq
8. Russell
9. Duncan
10) Durant
11) Hakeem
12) Kawhi
13) Bob Pettit
14) Moses
15) Dirk


Nearly all these players had better teams given equal or worse casts except a couple guys who had better casts (Russell, Magic, Kareem), but better stats, accolades, and/or winning



He saved Lebron.. so did ray
This nigguh really put Kawhi 12th all time :oldlol: