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ArbitraryWater
06-16-2019, 06:00 AM
Who should the Lakers take with whatever 30+ mill. they have?
Would it be smarter to go for a high profile SF (Butler, Kawhi(pipe dream)) over a high profile PG (Kyrie, Kemba) because then Beverley, Teague could be gotten at PG?
AFAIC Kyrie and Kemba is much the same impact... not much there.
Butler is a slightly better player I'd wage, but a worse 3-point shooter... still very capable though, and if they get Bev, Reddick, and/or Green, the floor will be spread.
What do fellow Laker bretherens say?
Manny98
06-16-2019, 06:04 AM
They need defense so Butler should be priority over Kemba
Then you need shooters, so going for the Seth Currys and Wayne Ellingtons of the world should be their other top priority
3+D guys. Use that money to make sure the team can shoot and has at minimum a good defense. That would make them a true title contender.
ArbitraryWater
06-16-2019, 06:10 AM
3+D guys. Use that money to make sure the team can shoot and has at minimum a good defense. That would make them a true title contender.
what 3/D guys?
ImKobe
06-16-2019, 06:13 AM
James
Davis
Butler
Green
Beverley
bench: Rondo, Kuzma, McGee
:rockon:
James
Davis
Butler
Green
Beverley
bench: Rondo, Kuzma, McGee
:rockon:
Swap Butler for Brogdon and move Green to the 3. Championship time. Stole that idea from NBAGOAT lol
ArbitraryWater
06-16-2019, 06:18 AM
James
Davis
Butler
Green
Beverley
bench: Rondo, Kuzma, McGee
:rockon:
who starts listing C's at the top?
weak move
ArbitraryWater
06-16-2019, 06:19 AM
Brogdon is a Buck, let him stay there.
Bucks match
ImKobe
06-16-2019, 06:21 AM
who starts listing C's at the top?
weak move
Doesn't matter, point is that you surround James with four great defensive players who can all make 3s and it's a contender.
fourkicks44
06-16-2019, 06:31 AM
Who should the Lakers take with whatever 30+ mill. they have?
Would it be smarter to go for a high profile SF (Butler, Kawhi(pipe dream)) over a high profile PG (Kyrie, Kemba) because then Beverley, Teague could be gotten at PG?
AFAIC Kyrie and Kemba is much the same impact... not much there.
Butler is a slightly better player I'd wage, but a worse 3-point shooter... still very capable though, and if they get Bev, Reddick, and/or Green, the floor will be spread.
What do fellow Laker bretherens say?
They are not getting Reddick.
ArbitraryWater
06-16-2019, 06:33 AM
They are not getting Reddick.
he's unrestricted, but i wouldnt mind it anyway. getting old, little D. bev+green would be perfect.
brooks_thompson
06-16-2019, 07:01 AM
They need beverly, danny green, and Pacers Bogdanovich. But that would probably run them 35-40 mil (10,10, 15-20). Dunno how much they have. Force Lebron to play PF. It's freakin time. I think 3 head coaches can overpower him on that. I know Lionel Hollins ain't gonna take any shit. He'll get fired before he ever takes any shit from a player.
NBAGOAT
06-16-2019, 07:11 AM
Dedmon but he
PeroAntic
06-16-2019, 07:14 AM
I would go for Conley. But you just know LeGM doesn't want good fitting players, he wants big star names so he will go for Kemba.
ArbitraryWater
06-16-2019, 07:16 AM
I would go for Conley. But you just know LeGM doesn't want good fitting players, he wants big star names so he will go for Kemba.
Conley?
You dumb? Check his contract
I would go for Conley. But you just know LeGM doesn't want good fitting players, he wants big star names so he will go for Kemba.
If I was GM I would say **** what LeBron wants.
And I bet LeBron would have more rings if I was his GM doing that.
ArbitraryWater
06-16-2019, 07:22 AM
If I was GM I would say **** what LeBron wants.
And I bet LeBron would have more rings if I was his GM doing that.
again, you win another post for being so objective and natural. Lol. youre doing great
Kblaze8855
06-16-2019, 07:26 AM
I wonder if if Paul Millsap is ready to superteam on the cheap it in his not quite old age. Nuggets arent gonna pick up his 30 million dollar option. He might want some of the spotlight with his last deal. He and JJ wouldnt make a big news splash but at 15 million each thats good depth.
PeroAntic
06-16-2019, 07:30 AM
Conley?
You dumb? Check his contract
My bad, for some reason I thought he was a free agent this summer:hammerhead:
He would be a perfect fit tho
NBAGOAT
06-16-2019, 07:30 AM
I wonder if if Paul Millsap is ready to superteam on the cheap it in his not quite old age. Nuggets arent gonna pick up his 30 million dollar option. He might want some of the spotlight with his last deal. He and JJ wouldnt make a big news splash but at 15 million each thats good depth.
Nuggets will still offer him a good contract. I think the lakers will have to offer more like 2yrs 40 to lure him from a contender in Denver. Doesn
ArbitraryWater
06-16-2019, 07:31 AM
My bad, for some reason I thought he was a free agent this summer:hammerhead:
He would be a perfect fit tho
yeah, he would have been.. :cheers:
Kblaze8855
06-16-2019, 07:49 AM
Who in the NBA gets cut and goes back to the team that decided not to pay them their final year? Players take that kinda personal. Maybe not a guy who had been somewhere for 10-12 years but...a brief stop like that?
Embers
06-16-2019, 07:57 AM
I think they need to spread the money out and not go for another max contract as tempting as it is. A team players I'd target strongly
Derrick Rose - bench scoring
Demare Carroll - 3 and d
Ricky Rubio - pass first PG
NBAGOAT
06-16-2019, 07:59 AM
I think both sides are already talking about a renegotiation. Like horford in Boston is likely not picking up his po and will take less in a new deal. Millsap could leave but I don
ArbitraryWater
06-16-2019, 08:03 AM
I think they need to spread the money out and not go for another max contract as tempting as it is. A team players I'd target strongly
Derrick Rose - bench scoring
Demare Carroll - 3 and d
Ricky Rubio - pass first PG
this would be terrible
GimmeThat
06-16-2019, 08:08 AM
doesn't really matter, the projection of teams future picks aren't set in stone. As usual, cap spaces are used to pay player instead of the false advertisement of benefiting your team more than the standard(normal) scale.
bobopenguin
06-16-2019, 08:12 AM
C - Dewayne Dedmon, can get him cheap.
Doranku
06-16-2019, 08:13 AM
Some names that stuck out to me:
Middleton (don't think he's leaving tho)
Jeremy Lamb
Tobias Harris
Wesley Matthews
Jeff Teague
Tyler Johnson
bobopenguin
06-16-2019, 08:14 AM
and can get Lin as back up PG for vet min.
DMAVS41
06-16-2019, 08:18 AM
Depending on price of course, but guys like...
Aminu
Ariza
Lamb
Collison
Matthews
Dedmon
JaMychal
Ellington
Joseph
Curry
Thabo
Ed Davis
Kblaze8855
06-16-2019, 08:23 AM
I forgot Thabo existed.
beastee
06-16-2019, 08:24 AM
Roser? Low IQ typer.
Kingwillball
06-16-2019, 08:32 AM
Depending on price of course, but guys like...
Aminu
Ariza
Lamb
Collison
Matthews
Dedmon
JaMychal
Ellington
Joseph
Curry
Thabo
Ed Davis
Out of that group would love Ariza bring 6th man but getting big minutes would love him getting matched with Lebron perfect 3/d guy..lamb Ellington curry also would be nice pieces not necessarily starters. Dedmon at Center. Honestly would take McGee back likes him would be perfect bringing energy off bench.
brooks_thompson
06-16-2019, 08:35 AM
Conley?
You dumb? Check his contract
Yeah, LAL has nothing left to trade. Not just gonna let you absorb Conley into capspace for free. I would begrudgingly watch him on LA, though. I want him to get a title so bad, especially now that Marc did.
superduper
06-16-2019, 08:39 AM
Most pathetic GOAT candidate EVER :roll: :roll:
brooks_thompson
06-16-2019, 08:44 AM
What if D'Angelo goes back
sammichoffate
06-16-2019, 01:18 PM
Lakers have 30mil in cap, it's either 1 star like kemba or several starters.
Duderonomy
06-16-2019, 02:24 PM
Rumor is the Lakers already have their 3rd all-star lined up
Kawhi would be the best available free agent.
But Butler, Walker, or Kyrie are also options.
Marchesk
06-16-2019, 02:41 PM
As a long time Laker fan, I'm just waiting for Klay and Durant to sign for league minimum to provide some three point shooting when they come back from injury.
Until then, Butler, James, AD and Kuzma can cobble together no worse than a 3 seed.
BallsOut
06-16-2019, 02:55 PM
Lakers only have 28 mill to work with. AD trade will be official July 6th according to Woj. This means he's not waiving his trade kicker bonus of 4 mill.
The good crop of role players will not settle for under market value just to play for the Lakers. Instead of overpaying them, the Lakers should sign good roleplaying vets to 1 year deals to maintain their flexibility.
Lakers should target:
Cousins (1 year 10 mill) - Already proven to work well with AD in NO
Rondo (1 year 8 mill) - Chemistry with AD and Lebron
Stephenson (vet min) - need 6th man scorer
Shumpert (vet min) - good wind defender
JR Smith via trade with Cavs for Wagner and Bonga (absorb JR's 10 mill into cap space).
Final roster
PG: Rondo | Caruso
SG: Smith | Stephenson
SF: Kuzma | Shumpert
PF: James | Williams
C: Davis | Cousins
That's a championship contender right there :lebronamazed:
RealSkipBayless
06-16-2019, 02:57 PM
Beverly
Lopez
Green
Collison
Gay
Dedmond
Pope, Rondo Stephenson can also return.
I'd take a rose or cousins for the right price too. Marcus Morris and Brogdon likely have too steep a cost.
sammichoffate
06-16-2019, 04:02 PM
Lakers only have 28 mill to work with. AD trade will be official July 6th according to Woj. This means he's not waiving his trade kicker bonus of 4 mill.
The good crop of role players will not settle for under market value just to play for the Lakers. Instead of overpaying them, the Lakers should sign good roleplaying vets to 1 year deals to maintain their flexibility.
Lakers should target:
Cousins (1 year 10 mill) - Already proven to work well with AD in NO
Rondo (1 year 8 mill) - Chemistry with AD and Lebron
Stephenson (vet min) - need 6th man scorer
Shumpert (vet min) - good wind defender
JR Smith via trade with Cavs for Wagner and Bonga (absorb JR's 10 mill into cap space).
Final roster
PG: Rondo | Caruso
SG: Smith | Stephenson
SF: Kuzma | Shumpert
PF: James | Williams
C: Davis | Cousins
That's a championship contender right there :lebronamazed:You're stupid, didn't have to read the rest.
sammichoffate
06-16-2019, 04:03 PM
Beverly
Lopez
Green
Collison
Gay
Dedmond
Pope, Rondo Stephenson can also return.
I'd take a rose or cousins for the right price too. Marcus Morris and Brogdon likely have too steep a cost.Lakers need to jump on him, idk why he wasn't signed before the trade. He prob won't cost more than 6m, really solid backup or even starter.
BallsOut
06-16-2019, 04:31 PM
Lakers need to jump on him, idk why he wasn't signed before the trade. He prob won't cost more than 6m, really solid backup or even starter.
Because he sucks? Cousins >>>>> Dedmon.
KOBEtherealKing
06-16-2019, 04:53 PM
I think they need to spread the money out and not go for another max contract as tempting as it is. A team players I'd target strongly
Derrick Rose - bench scoring
Demare Carroll - 3 and d
Ricky Rubio - pass first PG
Tf,
Yes to rose
Fck no the other two
I
qrich
06-16-2019, 05:07 PM
23m*
LAmbruh
06-16-2019, 05:10 PM
Jeanie "fill up my roster" Buss
"Who we finna get"
"Is he good, can we get him"
"Fill me up"
Meticode
06-16-2019, 05:33 PM
I think the Lakers should look into Brogdon. 50/40/90 guy. Looked really good in the playoffs after missing extended time. Doesn't' show much emotion. Combo guard, handles well, plays solid defense. Is 6'5" but has a 6'11" wingspan. SG is his natural position, but he can be PG in a pinch. Doesn't matter much when LeBron is handling the ball mostly.
Plus he'll only command around $15 million this year, that leaves the Lakers more money to get another second tier player. You want players who can do multiple things.
They already have three guys who can score 20+ in LeBron, Davis and Kuzma. I don't see the point in adding another scorer in Butler or Walker.
bison
06-16-2019, 05:43 PM
23m*
I read this too. So what is laker management doing by putting it out in the media that they
OG LeeTSkeeT
06-16-2019, 07:00 PM
Kawhi or Kyrie. No on Butler or Kemba.
If neither Kawhi or Kyrie, fill it out with 3-D players/shooting.
Pat Beverly
Nikola Mirotic
Brogdan
Redick
Ariza
Green
Bazemore
Bogdanovic
Mirotic
Darren Collison
Seth Curry
Dedmon
Thomas Bryant
Ross
Ellington
Brook Lopez
Morris Brothers
McCaw for that good luck charm
G0ATbe
06-16-2019, 07:04 PM
Bring back Bullock and Caruso. Sign Ariza and/or Melo to vet mins. Pick up Bogdanovic and whatever scrubs you can find thatll hit 3s
Big_Dogg
06-16-2019, 08:41 PM
We need to sign Patrick McCaw, dude is a good luck charm :lol
brownmamba00
06-16-2019, 08:44 PM
Wonder what Bogdanovic will be asking for this FA. Collison-Bogdan would blend in nicely with the rest of the line up. Both of these players played well with Oladipo back in Indiana. Both can shoot and play dee.
They should take a hard look at Lamb aswell.
NBAGOAT
06-16-2019, 08:54 PM
Wonder what Bogdanovic will be asking for this FA. Collison-Bogdan would blend in nicely with the rest of the line up. Both of these players played well with Oladipo back in Indiana. Both can shoot and play dee.
They should take a hard look at Lamb aswell.
Bojan could legitimately get close to 20mil. The spurs have been rumored for him too and are willing to trade derozan. Teams like the jazz and mavs could look at him as a plan b too
LukeWalton
06-16-2019, 10:31 PM
Center: AD
PF: LeBron
SF: Carmelo
SG: Kuzma
PG: Chris Paul
Bench. Stephenson, Castlevania Rondo, Waggy P, Mike Tyson Chandler, Jeanie Bus, Big Bus, Orange bus, yellow pus, others
sammichoffate
06-17-2019, 01:02 AM
Because he sucks? Cousins >>>>> Dedmon.No, because Cousins is looking for a near max you dumbass.
bladefd
06-17-2019, 02:32 AM
No, because Cousins is looking for a near max you dumbass.
Not getting anything close off two big injuries in back to back seasons
bladefd
06-17-2019, 02:36 AM
Center: AD
PF: LeBron
SF: Carmelo
SG: Kuzma
PG: Chris Paul
Bench. Stephenson, Castlevania Rondo, Waggy P, Mike Tyson Chandler, Jeanie Bus, Big Bus, Orange bus, yellow pus, others
Carmelo is done. Cp3 can't stay healthy for someone who will be getting paid $40 mill/yr soon. Chandler couldn't stay healthy and needs to go. Kuzma can't play sg.
brownmamba00
06-17-2019, 06:16 AM
Bojan could legitimately get close to 20mil. The spurs have been rumored for him too and are willing to trade derozan. Teams like the jazz and mavs could look at him as a plan b too
Spurs can't pay him unless they move DeRozan in a salary dump.
Pacers are in a tough spot themselves they want to keep Young but he could ask up to 15 mill a year.
Bosnian Sajo
06-17-2019, 08:05 AM
Honestly? If we have the full 32.5m to spend...instead of throwing it all on one player, I'd rather give DLo his 20m and then spend the next 12.5m on 2 quality role players....think Danny Green/JJ Redick type, along with a good bench option for the guards. Pat Beverly would be wonderful.
Russell/Beverly/Caruso
Green/Ellington
Kuzma/Lance Stephenson
James/Wagner
Davis/McGee
Or get even more conservative and instead of throwing 20m at any player, get you three to four 7-10m players like Collison, Bogdanovic, Danny Green, Redick, Marcus Morris, etc.
Bosnian Sajo
06-17-2019, 08:15 AM
Center: AD
PF: LeBron
SF: Carmelo
SG: Kuzma
PG: Chris Paul
Bench. Stephenson, Castlevania Rondo, Waggy P, Mike Tyson Chandler, Jeanie Bus, Big Bus, Orange bus, yellow pus, others
You posters are absolutely OBLIVIOUS to how the salary cap works.
Literally impossible to get CP3 right now unless we trade Lebron for him. Or AD after 90 days.
Hotlantadude81
06-17-2019, 08:37 AM
Why would anyone want Melo in 2019?
He hasn't been good in years.
Bosnian Sajo
06-17-2019, 09:16 AM
Why would anyone want Melo in 2019?
He hasn't been good in years.
Those are Bron fans talking, all they know is big names.
DMAVS41
06-17-2019, 09:24 AM
Honestly? If we have the full 32.5m to spend...instead of throwing it all on one player, I'd rather give DLo his 20m and then spend the next 12.5m on 2 quality role players....think Danny Green/JJ Redick type, along with a good bench option for the guards. Pat Beverly would be wonderful.
Russell/Beverly/Caruso
Green/Ellington
Kuzma/Lance Stephenson
James/Wagner
Davis/McGee
Or get even more conservative and instead of throwing 20m at any player, get you three to four 7-10m players like Collison, Bogdanovic, Danny Green, Redick, Marcus Morris, etc.
You are almost for sure not getting 2 quality role players for a combined 12.5 million a year given the incoming salary cap increases...it would be hard to get one for that price.
ArbitraryWater
06-17-2019, 09:39 AM
Those are Bron fans talking, all they know is big names.
that wasnt even a bron stan, kobe stan
Bosnian Sajo
06-17-2019, 11:36 AM
You are almost for sure not getting 2 quality role players for a combined 12.5 million a year given the incoming salary cap increases...it would be hard to get one for that price.
You think someone is willing to give Bev more than the MLE? Who?
I could definitely see us signing Green or Redick for 10-12.5m and then throw the mle at Bev.
Bosnian Sajo
06-17-2019, 11:37 AM
that wasnt even a bron stan, kobe stan
Regardless, its a stan and all of them can suck my dick.
Which leads me to my next question...are you rooting for the Lakers now?
ArbitraryWater
06-17-2019, 11:44 AM
Regardless, its a stan and all of them can suck my dick.
Which leads me to my next question...are you rooting for the Lakers now?
day 1'er for sure
join the cruise!
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=468879
jayfan
06-17-2019, 11:46 AM
James
Davis
Butler
Green
Beverley
bench: Rondo, Kuzma, McGee
:rockon:
Can you imagine Rondo & Beverly on the same team?
Lebron demoted to 3rd voice in the locker room.
ArbitraryWater
06-17-2019, 11:47 AM
Can you imagine Rondo & Beverly on the same team?
Lebron demoted to 3rd voice in the locker room.
:biggums:
LAmbruh
06-17-2019, 02:13 PM
Fill it up!
Bosnian Sajo
06-17-2019, 02:16 PM
day 1'er for sure
join the cruise!
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=468879
Lol, how pathetic. Not like we aren't used to it, had a lot of your type when Kobe was dominating the league. The past 6 years has been very chill in Lakerland....a few trolls here and there, but for the most part it was just true fans of the team.
ArbitraryWater
06-17-2019, 02:24 PM
Lol, how pathetic. Not like we aren't used to it, had a lot of your type when Kobe was dominating the league. The past 6 years has been very chill in Lakerland....a few trolls here and there, but for the most part it was just true fans of the team.
i feel you.
tough thing. firstworldproblems are real
Bosnian Sajo
06-17-2019, 02:24 PM
i feel you.
tough thing. firstworldproblems are real
Not a problem at all, just an observation. Carry on.
Little tip for the newbie Lakers fans, when picking a stream pick the one that is hosted by spectrum. Stu Lantz and Bill MacDonald are the best in the business.
DMAVS41
06-17-2019, 02:25 PM
You think someone is willing to give Bev more than the MLE? Who?
I could definitely see us signing Green or Redick for 10-12.5m and then throw the mle at Bev.
I was talking about straight cap, not the MLE.
Not sure on Bev, I'd have to look at contending teams....certainly he'll be in high demand imo.
Yes, 10 to 12 will most likely get you a Green or Reddick, although they may want multiple years as well. That was my point...that 10 to 12 of cap is only getting you 1 quality role player now.
Bosnian Sajo
06-17-2019, 02:28 PM
I was talking about straight cap, not the MLE.
Not sure on Bev, I'd have to look at contending teams....certainly he'll be in high demand imo.
Yes, 10 to 12 will most likely get you a Green or Reddick, although they may want multiple years as well. That was my point...that 10 to 12 of cap is only getting you 1 quality role player now.
Right but what I was saying was use that cap space (12.5m after hypothetically signing Dlo) to go out and nab Green/Redick and a guy like Pat Bev. Whether that mean to throw all 12.5 to Green and give Bev the 6m MLE or whatever, so be it.
IDK man I think the team will be fine tbh, can't really go too wrong with Bron/AD as your building blocks.
DMAVS41
06-17-2019, 02:36 PM
Right but what I was saying was use that cap space (12.5m after hypothetically signing Dlo) to go out and nab Green/Redick and a guy like Pat Bev. Whether that mean to throw all 12.5 to Green and give Bev the 6m MLE or whatever, so be it.
IDK man I think the team will be fine tbh, can't really go too wrong with Bron/AD as your building blocks.
I think the team will be fine as well. I love the trade for both teams.
Kingwillball
06-17-2019, 03:00 PM
Non Max player/top of line wishlist: Beverly,Brogdan, Collison, Rozier....Reddick,Ross, Lamb, Green...Bogdonovich,Miratic, Lopez,Morris
RealSkipBayless
06-17-2019, 03:18 PM
No 3rd star.
Our biggest splash should be Brogdon. Just go up to 18m. Bucks won
Kingwillball
06-17-2019, 03:24 PM
[QUOTE=RealSkipBayless]No 3rd star.
Our biggest splash should be Brogdon. Just go up to 18m. Bucks won
LAVAR BALL
06-17-2019, 03:25 PM
[QUOTE=RealSkipBayless]No 3rd star.
Our biggest splash should be Brogdon. Just go up to 18m. Bucks won
sammichoffate
06-17-2019, 06:55 PM
I don't know the Buck's cap situation, but a 24 yo 50/40/90/Good Defense/Poised player for 18M a year? I would match without second thoughts. The guy could be a legit second option/2nd floor general in a few yearsFking Eric Bledsoe got that much and brogdan is way better than him lol
RealSkipBayless
06-17-2019, 07:09 PM
I don't know the Buck's cap situation, but a 24 yo 50/40/90/Good Defense/Poised player for 18M a year? I would match without second thoughts. The guy could be a legit second option/2nd floor general in a few years
If they did match after resigning Middleton they would be paying a lot in luxury tax. Though that might not matter to them. So you prob right.
ZenMaster
06-18-2019, 05:53 AM
It's a bit dependent on whether or not Davis is supposed to take the 5 or 4 spot, but if Kawhi or perhaps Kyrie aren't possible, these would be some of the players that fit best around AD, Lebron and Kuzma.
Center
Lopez or Dedmon(if AD wants the 4 spot), with Kuzma as a 6th man or potentially Lopez or Dedmon could be the 6th man with AD starting at the 5, though the former being the likely scenario.
Forward
Bogdanovic, Ariza, Mirotic
Guard
Beverly, Brogdon, Reddick, Rubio, Green, Curry
AD - Lebron - Kuzma - Brogdon - Beverly I think is my favorite realistic starting 5 next year if Kawhi isn't coming and AD wants the 5 spot.
Javale - Wagner - Ariza - Bullock - Rondo for backups or something similar.
If AD wants the 4 spot I think my favorite would be something similar to
Lopez/Dedmon - AD - Lebron - Brogdon - Beverly
Javale - Wagner - Kuzma - Bullock/KCP(if he can be signed going over the cap due to bird rights) - Rondo as backups.
DMAVS41
06-18-2019, 09:43 AM
At the end of the day, the Lakers can't make the same idiotic moves they did last summer.
It will be hard to get what is needed, but what is needed is abundantly clear...just like last year.
This team needs defense, shooting, and guard play. Anyone that argues shooting isn't what this team needs...doesn't know a damn thing.
Can they get what they really need? I'm not sure, but guys like Rondo/Lance are the exact opposite of what this team needed last year...and that remains true this year.
Bosnian Sajo
06-18-2019, 09:58 AM
At the end of the day, the Lakers can't make the same idiotic moves they did last summer.
It will be hard to get what is needed, but what is needed is abundantly clear...just like last year.
This team needs defense, shooting, and guard play. Anyone that argues shooting isn't what this team needs...doesn't know a damn thing.
Can they get what they really need? I'm not sure, but guys like Rondo/Lance are the exact opposite of what this team needed last year...and that remains true this year.
Agreed with everything except for the last line...Rondo could absolutely have played better for us, no doubt. But Lance had a nice season for himself and a positive impact on the team. I have absolutely no problem with the team bringing him back as the backup shooting guard.
He shot 37% from three, played good defense, was unselfish, and had no issues as a member of the Lakers whatsoever. He got a tech here and there, but his impact was more positive than negative.
I wouldn't give him any of the cap room (obviously) or even the smaller MLE; Give him the vets minimum and if he accepts, welcome back to the team my G. Same goes for Rondo honestly, if he's willing to accept the vet minimum, welcome back to the team.
DMAVS41
06-18-2019, 10:20 AM
Agreed with everything except for the last line...Rondo could absolutely have played better for us, no doubt. But Lance had a nice season for himself and a positive impact on the team. I have absolutely no problem with the team bringing him back as the backup shooting guard.
He shot 37% from three, played good defense, was unselfish, and had no issues as a member of the Lakers whatsoever. He got a tech here and there, but his impact was more positive than negative.
I wouldn't give him any of the cap room (obviously) or even the smaller MLE; Give him the vets minimum and if he accepts, welcome back to the team my G. Same goes for Rondo honestly, if he's willing to accept the vet minimum, welcome back to the team.
Lance on the vet minimum would probably be fine, but I don't know...he's always a bit of an annoyance. Sometimes for the opposite team, sometimes for his own team.
But on the vet minimum...I think that is fine...I was talking about how they spend the real cap space, not just fill out roster with minimum level players.
LAmbruh
06-18-2019, 10:24 AM
"Fill it up"
"Don't stop"
-Jeanie Buss
bladefd
06-18-2019, 04:35 PM
It's a bit dependent on whether or not Davis is supposed to take the 5 or 4 spot, but if Kawhi or perhaps Kyrie aren't possible, these would be some of the players that fit best around AD, Lebron and Kuzma.
Center
Lopez or Dedmon(if AD wants the 4 spot), with Kuzma as a 6th man or potentially Lopez or Dedmon could be the 6th man with AD starting at the 5, though the former being the likely scenario.
Forward
Bogdanovic, Ariza, Mirotic
Guard
Beverly, Brogdon, Reddick, Rubio, Green, Curry
AD - Lebron - Kuzma - Brogdon - Beverly I think is my favorite realistic starting 5 next year if Kawhi isn't coming and AD wants the 5 spot.
Javale - Wagner - Ariza - Bullock - Rondo for backups or something similar.
If AD wants the 4 spot I think my favorite would be something similar to
Lopez/Dedmon - AD - Lebron - Brogdon - Beverly
Javale - Wagner - Kuzma - Bullock/KCP(if he can be signed going over the cap due to bird rights) - Rondo as backups.
I would focus resources on guards..
AD is good enough at C and Lebron/Kuzma can both play 3+4. We have Wagner as backup and probably Jonathan Williams as 3rd string center for supercheap. We have enough versatility there between center/forward, but guards we don't have on roster except Bonga, who is 3rd string sg project I don't count yet.
We need guards guards guards.
Either starting pg or sg needs to be good defender. And one of them has to be able to hit the 3. Or you can have a 3-and-D player.. So yes, I agree with the bold portion. It would be a perfect backcourt. However, Brogdon will be offered about $20-22m/yr range by Bucks so that's tough to match :confusedshrug:
We should go after Beverley certainly with the MLE, so we should get a sg first to max out cap before MLE activates
ArbitraryWater
06-20-2019, 04:24 PM
the fill-out needs to happen....
as of now, not enough.
Beverley, Brogdon, Green, Bog, Butler, Dedmon... 1/2 of these must be gotten
maybe that Paul buyout fantasy
Proctor
06-20-2019, 04:27 PM
the fill-out needs to happen....
as of now, not enough.
Beverley, Brogdon, Green, Bog, Butler, Dedmon... 1/2 of these must be gotten
maybe that Paul buyout fantasy
Brogdon is too smart, Green having been a Spur knows the devastation of Lebron ball, Bog doesn't want to be the next Crowder, Butler is a nice little cancer...so maybe Beverley or Dedmon? :rockon:
RealSkipBayless
06-20-2019, 04:28 PM
Brogdon is too smart, Green having been a Spur knows the devastation of Lebron ball, Bog doesn't want to be the next Crowder, Butler is a nice little cancer...so maybe Beverley or Dedmon? :rockon:
10 years later... Bron and Green reuniting. :rockon:
ArbitraryWater
06-20-2019, 04:48 PM
Brogdon is too smart, Green having been a Spur knows the devastation of Lebron ball, Bog doesn't want to be the next Crowder, Butler is a nice little cancer...so maybe Beverley or Dedmon? :rockon:
Green went partying with LeBron after the Heat won the '13 title :lol
LAVAR BALL
06-20-2019, 05:25 PM
Can't see what they'll find with 24Mil and 9 slots to fill:
Let's imagine:
Danny Green: 10 Mil (Same as what he had last year)
Rondo: 2 Mil (if no one tries to take him for more...)
Bogdanovic ? He'll have a LOT of suitors around 15 Mil range
Bev for MidLevel...Do you see Rondo, Bev and Lance in the same team?
Do you pick your bench at the G-League All Star Game?
:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:
bladefd
06-20-2019, 05:50 PM
Can't see what they'll find with 24Mil and 9 slots to fill:
Let's imagine:
Danny Green: 10 Mil (Same as what he had last year)
Rondo: 2 Mil (if no one tries to take him for more...)
Bogdanovic ? He'll have a LOT of suitors around 15 Mil range
Bev for MidLevel...Do you see Rondo, Bev and Lance in the same team?
Do you pick your bench at the G-League All Star Game?
:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:
Green is going to go for $7m/yr probably, around MLE money.. Doubt he is getting $10m/yr
Rondo will get $5m/yr minimum, and I doubt he wants to play with LeBron again
Lakers have following money:
-$24m but I expect AD to waive trade kicker to get us to $28m.. Fill 'er up with 1 max (quote unquote 1+1 deal then re-up to max money/years next summer) or 2 quality starters
-Once $28m is filled, you unlock MLE of around $7m and bi-lateral exception of around $3m. That's 2 or 3 role-players right there
-Then you also unlock veterans minimum for several more backups off bench
LAmbruh
06-20-2019, 05:51 PM
"yes c*m inside"
"please boys c*m inside my office"
"fill it up"
-Jeanie
Hawker
06-20-2019, 07:55 PM
Isn't the trade in danger now due to lack of cap space?
ArbitraryWater
06-20-2019, 07:56 PM
Isn't the trade in danger now due to lack of cap space?
lmao what?
stop wilding
Hawker
06-20-2019, 08:01 PM
lmao what?
stop wilding
https://sports.yahoo.com/report-the-lakers-forgot-about-creating-cap-space-in-the-anthony-davis-trade-164633838.html
Talk normal dude. You're german not black.
ArbitraryWater
06-20-2019, 08:03 PM
https://sports.yahoo.com/report-the-lakers-forgot-about-creating-cap-space-in-the-anthony-davis-trade-164633838.html
Talk normal dude. You're german not black.
in normal: no, the trade is not in danger :roll: :facepalm
Hawker
06-20-2019, 08:05 PM
in normal: no, the trade is not in danger :roll: :facepalm
So any comment on not creating any cap space to sign another max player? Will they get it done?
ArbitraryWater
06-20-2019, 08:05 PM
So any comment on not creating any cap space to sign another max player? Will they get it done?
yea we been talking this the past half week bro
he better waive the kicker
Hawker
06-20-2019, 08:14 PM
yea we been talking this the past half week bro
he better waive the kicker
Seems like a fail on the lakers part.
ArbitraryWater
06-20-2019, 08:22 PM
Seems like a fail on the lakers part.
big time
pelinka the clown
if AD truly wants to win, he waives.
but that still doesnt make up for the 6th july vs 30th july mess
TheGreatDeraj
06-21-2019, 12:16 AM
Lakers just traded with the magic to get the 46th pick. Drafted Iowa State's Horton Tucker. He's a 6ft 4in 235lb G/F. Has over 7ft wingspan. Seems like a versatile player that can handle the rock, finish in the paint, pass and shoot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN20r-KaOGE
Kidbasketball20
06-21-2019, 12:19 AM
Can't see what they'll find with 24Mil and 9 slots to fill:
Let's imagine:
Danny Green: 10 Mil (Same as what he had last year)
Rondo: 2 Mil (if no one tries to take him for more...)
Bogdanovic ? He'll have a LOT of suitors around 15 Mil range
Bev for MidLevel...Do you see Rondo, Bev and Lance in the same team?
Do you pick your bench at the G-League All Star Game?
:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:
HUH?
Bev literally said his goal for the off season is to provide for his family and put food on their plates.
That means $$$$$
Like hell he's going for a mid level :roll: :roll:
Proctor
06-21-2019, 12:21 AM
Lakers will fetch Elfrid Payton and Terrence Ross. :oldlol: :oldlol:
NBAGOAT
06-21-2019, 12:22 AM
Lakers will fetch Elfrid Payton and Terrence Ross. :oldlol: :oldlol:
terrence is good actually. They be happy to get him. Shouldnt go anywhere near elfrid however :oldlol:.
Proctor
06-21-2019, 12:23 AM
terrence is good actually. They be happy to get him. Shouldnt go anywhere near elfrid however :oldlol:.
Definitely, but a far cry from Danny Green, Bog and/or Beverley. :lol
brownmamba00
06-21-2019, 02:38 AM
Lakers just traded with the magic to get the 46th pick. Drafted Iowa State's Horton Tucker. He's a 6ft 4in 235lb G/F. Has over 7ft wingspan. Seems like a versatile player that can handle the rock, finish in the paint, pass and shoot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN20r-KaOGE
His game reminds me of Eric Gordon and a little bit of Paul Pierce. He's a big two guard that can score in a variety of ways. Thing is he might be too slow in his lateral movement. Major red flag right there.
Doubt he gets minutes from vogel.
ArbitraryWater
06-27-2019, 04:00 PM
Everyone is crouched over at our feet, who we takin' boys?
Butler?
Kyrie?
Kemba?
Middleton?
Shogon
06-27-2019, 04:04 PM
Everyone is crouched over at our feet, who we takin' boys?
Butler?
Kyrie?
Kemba?
Middleton?
Middleton is by far the best fit out of those names but maxing ANY of those guys would be a HUGE ****ing mistake that they don’t recover from... ESPECIALLY Butler.
You know I’m not sure there’s a worse fit in the league for LeBron than Jimmy Butler.
How atrociously bad. LOL.
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