MJ had Pip for 9 yr and went 6/9 overall, 6/6 with all-star Pip in full seasons, otoh

[3ball]

Lebron will be 4/8 at best with all-star Wade/Kyrie/AD/Bosh/Love

6/6 > 4/8

[SpaceJam2]

LeBron won without an all star in 2016.

Which year did Jordan win a championship without an all star?Jordan lost with an all star teammate (1990, 1995)

LeBron won without an all star (2016)

[Manny98]

He wins 2 of the next 3 so he finishes 5/11 which is better than 6/6 if you take into account LeBron getting to the finals 5 more times than MJ + the teams he beat in the finals are more impressive

Plus LeBron shits on MJ in longevity of course

[3ball]

LeBron won without an all star in 2016.


MJ won without an all-star in 1991 and 1998





Which year did Jordan win a championship without an all star?


1991 and 1998





Jordan lost with an all star teammate (1990, 1995)


Lebron lost with an all-star teammate (2005, 2009, 2011, 2014, 2017, and 2018)

[SpaceJam2]

LeBron beat 3all stars in 2016 with 0 all star teammates.

MJ only ever beat 2 in such situations

Next

[3ball]

He wins 2 of the next 3 so he finishes 5/11 which is better than 6/6 if you take into account LeBron getting to the finals 5 more times than MJ + the teams he beat in the finals are more impressive

Plus LeBron shits on MJ in longevity of course
6 rings in 15 seasons with 1 all-star teammate destroys lebron's 5 in 19 with 7 all-star teammates.

So it's not close and lebron's team-hopping gave him so many all-star teammates that it kills his case and narrative

And if he gets 5 rings, only 3 or 4 will be as the best player and fmvp... So that falls short of mj's 6

And no one cares about his conference finals wins (Finals appearances) - especially when a good team wasn't needed to make the Finals from the East - lebron stacked the deck in a conference where Dwight Howard was dragging weak casts to the Finals... :facepalm ..

It's shameless collusion; it's shameless stacking the deck and then claiming goat for mostly losing championships.. quite pathetic

[3ball]

LeBron beat 3all stars in 2016 with 0 all star teammates.

MJ only ever beat 2 in such situations

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Lebron had 2 perennial all-star teammates in 2016

Whereas MJ had no all-stars in 1989 while beating the Cavs' 3 all-stars and #1 SRS team

MJ also had no all-stars in 1991, but beat the Pistons 3 all-stars and b2b team.. lebron never beat a b2b champ

[superduper]

3ball single handedly destroying fools

[Manny98]

6 rings in 15 seasons with 1 all-star teammate destroys lebron's 5 in 19 with 7 all-star teammates.

So it's not close and lebron's team-hopping gave him so many all-star teammates that it kills his case and narrative

And if he gets 5 rings, only 3 or 4 will be as the best player and fmvp... So that falls short of mj's 6

And no one cares about his conference finals wins (Finals appearances) - especially when a good team wasn't needed to make the Finals from the East - lebron stacked the deck in a conference where Dwight Howard was dragging weak casts to the Finals... :facepalm ..

It's shameless collusion; it's shameless stacking the deck and then claiming goat for mostly losing championships.. quite pathetic
MJ played with more all NBA players than LeBron

And who cares if MJ is 6/6 when he played vastly inferior teams in the finals than what LeBron played against

https://i.postimg.cc/kMWYC2j7/DCXSll4-WAAE4-Me-E.jpg

Give me 5/11 playing against the 3 MVP OKC, the Duncan and Kawhi juggernaut Spurs and the 73 win Warriors over the Utah Jazz led by Karl Malone and Jeff Hornecek :oldlol:

[3ball]

MJ played with more all NBA players than LeBron

And who cares if MJ is 6/6 when he played vastly inferior teams in the finals than what LeBron played against

https://i.postimg.cc/kMWYC2j7/DCXSll4-WAAE4-Me-E.jpg

Give me 5/11 playing against the 3 MVP OKC, the Duncan and Kawhi juggernaut Spurs and the 73 win Warriors over the Utah Jazz led by Karl Malone and Jeff Hornecek :oldlol:
The 90's West champs were like this year's Raptors - going through a blood bath in their conference to make the Finals

So the lower net efficiency is from the high-parity bloodbaths that were the 90's western playoffs, versus the big fish in small pond nature of the super-team era, where the Spurs/Warriors had mostly easier paths

when did the Warriors have to beat popovich/duncan AND a stacked Shaq team, and Hakeem to make a Finals like the Jazz did??.. this was the standard path to make the Finals from the West.. i.e. the 96' Sonics had to beat the b2b champion rockets in 1996.. 93' suns had to beat a stacked Sonic team that had just beaten Hakeem.. it was a high parity era