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iamgine
06-18-2019, 12:21 AM
Who is the best teammate Lebron ever had?

j3lademaster
06-18-2019, 12:23 AM
Much better than Kyrie but not quite as good as prime Wade.

SouBeachTalents
06-18-2019, 12:26 AM
2011 Wade >

But this current AD looks like he

Gougou
06-18-2019, 12:44 AM
Lets see if AD can win a ring first lol.

JZ600
06-18-2019, 12:44 AM
I think overall AD will be a better teammate in the next 3-4 years barring injury.

Ad is a better fit for bron than wade
Ad hasnt even hit his prime yet
Wade was a star in 2011, a great player in 12-13, and average in 14

Boogaboog
06-18-2019, 01:23 AM
Bron and AD win zero rings together. Is Davis a better teammate than Kevin Love is the real question.

j3lademaster
06-18-2019, 02:15 AM
Lets see if AD can win a ring first lol.Well, AD will also most likely be playing with a worse version of Lebron than Kyrie did.

SamuraiSWISH
06-18-2019, 02:23 AM
2011 Wade
Current Anthony Davis
2012 Wade
2013 Wade (pre injury)
2017 Kyrie
2016 Kyrie
2015 Kyrie
2014 Wade

This isn’t even taking into account Bosh and Love, because he needed elite PFs as well after his main sidekick.

RRR3
06-18-2019, 02:28 AM
2011 Wade
Current Anthony Davis
2012 Wade
2013 Wade (pre injury)
2017 Kyrie
2016 Kyrie
2015 Kyrie
2014 Wade

This isn’t even taking into account Bosh and Love, because he needed elite PFs as well after his main sidekick.
He sure needed Love’s amazing contributions in then 2016 finals.

SamuraiSWISH
06-18-2019, 02:29 AM
[QUOTE=RRR3]He sure needed Love

RRR3
06-18-2019, 02:35 AM
[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]Minimized due to his role in a Bron-centric stat padding

SamuraiSWISH
06-18-2019, 02:38 AM
Ok, so LeBron didn’t need him.


Thanks for agreeing :applause:
No you were using his stats as justification of what you perceived to be his level was as a player.

And only used one series as a barometer.

He was putting up mega stats before coming to Cleveland and being forced to stand in the corner. LeBron can’t play without the ball in his hands.

He still forced a trade of a rookie for a perennial all star PF because he needs MORE HALP !!! So of course he needed him. LeBron always needs a secondary sidekick, generally a top 3 PF.

RRR3
06-18-2019, 02:40 AM
No you were using his stats as justification of what you perceived to be his level was as a player.

And only used one series as a barometer.

He was putting up mega stats before coming to Cleveland and being forced to stand in the corner. LeBron can’t play without the ball in his hands.

He still forced a trade of a rookie for a perennial all star PF because he needs MORE HALP !!! So of course he needed him. LeBron always needs a secondary sidekick, generally a top 3 PF.
Pretty sure he could have got 8.5 PPG on 36.2% from other players , coach. Needed him doe.

SamuraiSWISH
06-18-2019, 02:43 AM
Pretty sure he could have got 8.5 PPG on 36.2% from other players , coach. Needed him doe.
Draymond was suspended and Bogut was injured, nerd.

So Love wasn’t even a necessity that series.

And like is obvious to anyone who understands the game, Love’s production gets minimized as a third option forced to stand in the corner and not get touches in Bron Ball, which is only designed to comfort LeBron and cater to his stat padding.

LeBron needs perennial HOF all star PFs as third options.

SamuraiSWISH
06-18-2019, 02:46 AM
Love - 5x All Star
Bosh - 11x All Star

... 3rd options LOL pathetic

RRR3
06-18-2019, 02:52 AM
How does he need them if he turns them into scrubs? :confusedshrug:

SamuraiSWISH
06-18-2019, 03:18 AM
How does he need them if he turns them into scrubs? :confusedshrug:
That

ImKobe
06-18-2019, 03:28 AM
Better than both. Wade didn't make it past the first round without Shaq until like 2016(?)

It is a very small sample size, but Davis in 13 Playoff games (age 21, 24) is averaging 31/13 with about 2 stl 3 blk on 59%TS.

If you look at him in the 2018 Playoffs, he swept the Blazers and took a game from the Warriors, had a double-double in every single Playoff game and only had like one bad game shooting. Imagine if he was drafted to a good organization and competed in the Playoffs every year.. no team has been able to shut him down so far and the only big man who really could (Embiid) is playing out East.

There's no weakness to his game in this era. He can do it all.

SamuraiSWISH
06-18-2019, 03:32 AM
Better than both. Wade didn't make it past the first round without Shaq.
Disingenuous ... Shaq wasn’t anything special by 2006.

Wade over took him in the 2005 playoffs as the Heat’s best player.

Post Shaq, and pre LeBron / Bosh in 2008, 2009, and 2010 the Heat roster was trash.

Using the same logic Kobe didn’t get past the first round either without Shaq and pre Gasol.

ImKobe
06-18-2019, 03:41 AM
[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]Disingenuous ... Shaq wasn

SouBeachTalents
06-18-2019, 03:45 AM
Better than both. Wade didn't make it past the first round without Shaq until like 2016(?)

It is a very small sample size, but Davis in 13 Playoff games (age 21, 24) is averaging 31/13 with about 2 stl 3 blk on 59%TS.

If you look at him in the 2018 Playoffs, he swept the Blazers and took a game from the Warriors, had a double-double in every single Playoff game and only had like one bad game shooting. Imagine if he was drafted to a good organization and competed in the Playoffs every year.. no team has been able to shut him down so far and the only big man who really could (Embiid) is playing out East.

There's no weakness to his game in this era. He can do it all.
Wade made it past the first round his rookie year

ImKobe
06-18-2019, 05:13 AM
Wade made it past the first round his rookie year

He wasn't the best player on his team then so obviously I'm not counting that lol.

Andrei89
06-18-2019, 06:17 AM
[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]No you were using his stats as justification of what you perceived to be his level was as a player.

And only used one series as a barometer.

He was putting up mega stats before coming to Cleveland and being forced to stand in the corner. LeBron can

andgar923
06-18-2019, 06:21 AM
2 years from now Bron Stans:
Davis sucks, Bron needs moar helpppp!!!!!

ArbitraryWater
06-18-2019, 06:36 AM
Much better than Kyrie but not quite as good as prime Wade.

2015-2017 Kyrie > 2012-2014 Wade

j3lademaster
06-18-2019, 07:21 AM
But Kobe wasn't playing the Atlanta Hawks in the first round. Wade got swept in the first round (by the Deng/Gordon Bulls no less) as a defending champ.



Love Wade, but I think AD is just better. Lebron only really had 1 year of peak/prime Wade, AD is only 26 and will probably give him at least two years of elite play at like 28/12 with ~3 blocks.AD is a monster no doubt, and I wouldn

FireDavidKahn
06-18-2019, 08:03 AM
The Slander against AD is funny as hell.:oldlol:

Marchesk
06-18-2019, 12:14 PM
AD is the best fit with Lebron. And he's mad underrated on this board.

Phoenix
06-18-2019, 01:38 PM
Unless and until AD produces his regular season stats in a finals setting, what he 'could' be on paper in term of where the Lakers land the next few years is a non-starter conversation, so 2011 Wade is his best teammate UNTIL proven otherwise. Say what you will about Kyrie as a lead player but he balled out in both finals, so while AD's *obviously* a better player, he shouldn't get the automatic benefit of doubt until he's performed big in high stakes situations.

I have my doubts about Lebron and AD's on-court synergy anyway, since the latter isn't the kind of stretch 4 that would best work with Lebron. So whoever their third big signing ends up *needs* to have knockdown shooting as one of their attributes, like a Klay Thompson( which obviously isn't happening).

Turbo Slayer
06-18-2019, 01:44 PM
Wade no competition