Wolves shopping Wiggins

[UK2K]

I said a couple years back before he was drafted he was the next Melo... An inefficient chucker who could play defense, but won't.

Here we are.

Dude made sure to get paid before becoming a lazy piece of shit, at least. Solid planning on his part.

[DMAVS41]

I said a couple years back before he was drafted he was the next Melo... An inefficient chucker who could play defense, but won't.

Here we are.

Dude made sure to get paid before becoming a lazy piece of shit, at least. Solid planning on his part.

He's been bad his entire career and that contract was stupid at the time.

Not sure who is taking him.

[RealSkipBayless]

Wolves couldn

[christian1923]

Melo was a 10x all star lol

[ArbitraryWater]

insulting melo

[Duderonomy]

[QUOTE=RealSkipBayless]Wolves couldn

[Spurs m8]

Was always a completely horrid contract

Yuck

Never rated this guy

[Kblaze8855]

Why are people so bad at making player comparisons. It

[UK2K]

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]Why are people so bad at making player comparisons. It

[Pushxx]

They'd have to give up assets to get a team to even consider taking him.

[DMAVS41]

Melo was full of potential, but a shitty teammate and a career loser everywhere he went.

That's a perfect comparison.

Whoever trades for Wiggins, that's what they're getting.

No, it isn't even close.

I've always been anti-Melo...Wiggins hasn't done anything to even remotely be in his league as a player.

Just, stop...

[Kblaze8855]

Melo was full of potential the vast majority of which he realized which is why he’s an all-time great player. we are just in an age of extremes where everyone who doesn’t retire in the conversation for the greatest of all time gets treated like they were actually bad at basketball.

Melo, Dwight Howard, Nique, Mitch Richmond, Vince carter....

These are your garden variety nba legends. These are the non GOAT types who are still absolute all timers far as accomplishments and the only reason people don’t think so is because the only legends who’s resume they know are top 5-10 types.

Carmelo had a hell of a career. There are very few people who were so talented a HOF career like his is a letdown.

Melo wasn’t one of them.

Melo was marginally more talented than Glen Rice, Jamal Mashburn, or Glenn Robinson. And he got what he could from it. He’s just about exactly where he should be. Somewhere in the wing of the HOF with Alex English, Adrian Dantley VC and maybe George Gervin and Nique when they feel like stopping by.

He was never supposed to be with Jordan or Doctor J or whoever.

He was a great scorer. I don’t know what else he was supposed to be.

He’s going to the HOF for it. Is everyone without their own wing of the hall a letdown?

[Kblaze8855]

No, it isn't even close.

I've always been anti-Melo...Wiggins hasn't done anything to even remotely be in his league as a player.

Just, stop...


Imagine scoring more than Jerry west, being a 10 time all star, and sitting in your HOF induction while some guy writes an article about someone he suggests is unimpressive essentially being the same thing you were.

I don

[bladefd]

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]Imagine scoring more than Jerry west, being a 10 time all star, and sitting in your HOF induction while some guy writes an article about someone he suggests is unimpressive essentially being the same thing you were.

I don

[Proctor]

Melo was full of potential, but a shitty teammate and a career loser everywhere he went.

That's a perfect comparison.

Whoever trades for Wiggins, that's what they're getting.
No, it's an absolutely garbage comparison.

Shitty teammate and a career loser is more descriptive of CP0.

[HoopologyPhD]

Get him on a quality organization with a stable head coach and I bet they could make him into a decent player.

[PeroAntic]

Wiggins might be the worst player in the league. So yeah whoever compares him to one of the best scorers in the history of the game is retarded.

I don't know what would anyone give up for Wiggins that can also match his salary.

[sdot_thadon]

Yeah that Melo comparison is complete shit. I hate the dogging melo has taken on the back end of his career. He was legit one of the top 5 players in the league a few years. Will wiggins even have a single year at that level?

[Kblaze8855]

Wiggins might be the worst player in the league. So yeah whoever compares him to one of the best scorers in the history of the game is retarded.

I don't know what would anyone give up for Wiggins that can also match his salary.


Andrew Wiggins salary isnt hard to match in this league.

Chandler Parsons for Wiggins works...straight up. Wiggins for Batum works...straight up. Otto Porter made MORE money than Wiggins this year. They work in a straight swap. Im not suggesting any of those deals...im just letting you know that in todays league 25-27 million isnt shit.

Its a good role player contract for a stupid team. Lot of those "WTF?" salaries out there to easily match anyones 25 million. Guys you barely heard of make 15.

[DMAVS41]

Andrew Wiggins salary isnt hard to match in this league.

Chandler Parsons for Wiggins works...straight up. Wiggins for Batum works...straight up. Otto Porter made MORE money than Wiggins this year. They work in a straight swap. Im not suggesting any of those deals...im just letting you know that in todays league 25-27 million isnt shit.

Its a good role player contract for a stupid team. Lot of those "WTF?" salaries out there to easily match anyones 25 million. Guys you barely heard of make 15.

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[Meticode]

Remember all those people saying the Wolves won the Wiggins/Love trade. :oldlol:

[sdot_thadon]

Remember all those people saying the Wolves won the Wiggins/Love trade. :oldlol:
That's actually the 1st thing that came to mind when i read the topic......

[Kblaze8855]

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People nba fans have to google made 18 million last year.

Nobody getting 25-27 a year is hard to match money for. You just trade one bad deal for another. Evan Fornier made 17-18. Ryan Anderson 21. Bazemore 17. Timbug jr 17. Alan Crabbe 19. Barnes 24.

This is just another case of being stuck with old standards.

25 million is high end role player money going forward. From shitty organizations at least. 20 million looks like the going rate for anyone who isnt falling over his own feet. And most of those deals were signed with a 94 million cap. The cap is projected at 119 in 2020.....

Get ready for 9/8 off the bench to get you 90 million dollars.

[DMAVS41]

People nba fans have to google made 18 million last year.

Nobody getting 25-27 a year is hard to match money for. You just trade one bad deal for another. Evan Fornier made 17-18. Ryan Anderson 21. Bazemore 17. Timbug jr 17. Alan Crabbe 19. Barnes 24.

This is just another case of being stuck with old standards.

25 million is high end role player money going forward. From shitty organizations at least. 20 million looks like the going rate for anyone who isnt falling over his own feet. And most of those deals were signed with a 94 million cap. The cap is projected at 119 in 2020.....

Get ready for 9/8 off the bench to get you 90 million dollars.

I agree, as you know, and seriously...all in good fun / conversation, but these are the exact points I was making over the last couple years that you seemed to reject.

[Kblaze8855]

Did I say it was a good idea to pay role players 100 million? I said it happened....mostly because of poorly run franchises. Run down the list of guys I just mentioned. Any world beating teams give those contracts?

There will always be Knicks and Wizards and Hawks and Magics giving out obscene money. And now that they have even more to spend its even more common.

It doesnt help you win clearly. But it does make it easy to move your own big contracts. Which was the only point.

In a world shit franchises give Bazemore Peyton Manning money everyone can be moved.

[DMAVS41]

Yea, I agree in most cases...

Just disagree in the specific case we talked about and like you say...if there is no realized opportunity cost...moving / matching contracts is trivially easy as this is the new norm.

[1987_Lakers]

I said a couple years back before he was drafted he was the next Melo... An inefficient chucker who could play defense, but won't.

Here we are.

Dude made sure to get paid before becoming a lazy piece of shit, at least. Solid planning on his part.
I made better player comparisons than you when I was 17. Carmelo = Wiggins? Wtf.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=98053

I made that thread in 2008, and they both ended up having similar careers, just different styles.

[GOBB]

I once laughed at someone saying Covington for Wiggins. And the jokes on me. That

[PeroAntic]

Funny thing is hes still worse than all these bums kblaze mentions. Bazemore, Crabbe, Barnes, Batum... I wouldnt trade any one of them for Wiggins if I was the GM, unless Im getting some picks too.

Otto Porter is ****ing light years ahead of Wiggins as a player.

[Duderonomy]

Wiggins might be the worst player in the league. So yeah whoever compares him to one of the best scorers in the history of the game is retarded.

I don't know what would anyone give up for Wiggins that can also match his salary.
CP3 and Tucker for Wiggins and Dieng

[Meticode]

That's actually the 1st thing that came to mind when i read the topic......
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/zRsAAOSwzJ5XZ~kM/s-l300.jpg

[scuzzy]

Remember all those people saying the Wolves won the Wiggins/Love trade. :oldlol:
:pimp:

[DMAVS41]

Funny thing is hes still worse than all these bums kblaze mentions. Bazemore, Crabbe, Barnes, Batum... I wouldnt trade any one of them for Wiggins if I was the GM, unless Im getting some picks too.

Otto Porter is ****ing light years ahead of Wiggins as a player.

Yes, I really don't think he meant it like that though.

It isn't close. Porter has been considerably better for a while now...anyone arguing Wiggins over guys like Porter...I'd imagine just don't watch either player at all...and only look at stats.

Anyone that watches them both play will for sure not take Wiggins.