[WOJ BOMB] Khris Middleton will only resign with Bucks if he gets 5 years 190 million

[Im so nba'd out]

Another team in the East down the drain.


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Middleton to the hawks or sixers

[LAmbruh]

that's Mozgov money :biggums:

[Haymaker]

Khris f

[HoopologyPhD]

This brotha can't even spell his name the proper way and is asking for 40 mil per year?

[RRR3]

Perfect 3rd option for Bron and AD IMO.

[raprap]

As expected.

[G0ATbe]

Welcome to LA:rockon:

[Marchesk]

Imagine if the league gave LA an exception and waived the cap limit.

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[ArbitraryWater]

Imagine if the league gave LA an exception and waived the cap limit.

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:oldlol:

[NBAGOAT]

30 mil is reasonable for him. Mil is going have a huge tax but the owners seem willing to pay it

[90sgoat]

Not a max player.

[GOBB]

Nah I

[RealSkipBayless]

Welp he

[Wally450]

Good luck to anyone who signs him to big money lol.

[brooks_thompson]

I'm all about getting yourself well-paid, but come on man, be realistic. "If you won't pay me my 5-year max, then I'm gonna go somewhere else that can't pay as much." Just get the hell out, man

[ErhnamDjinn]

Welcome to LA:rockon:
LA wants to spend 38m on Khris Middleton. Lmao at players getting over paid today.

[Miles and Miles]

He obviously doesn't want to be on the Bucks anymore.

[34-24 Footwork]

Lol. Dude gonna price himself out of the league :lol

Can't knock him for trying to get his money, wow @ the delusion.

[bigkingsfan]

They need to ask Giannis because that's the only opinion that matters.

[DMAVS41]

Leverage is a great thing.

He knows Bucks can't let him walk because they can't afford to lose Giannis.

[Naero]

I've wanted to retain Middleton, but nowhere near that price.

Who else will pay him it? The 27-year-old has already peaked as a fringe All-Star at best (only named one 'cause of the conference disparity), and he certainly hasn't upvalued himself with his substandard playoffs run

[Im so nba'd out]

He obviously doesn't want to be on the Bucks anymore.
Bingo.But he would stay for 180 mil, for as long as he can stand being in that "Giannis system".Where only Giannis gets all of the praise for every single win.

[DMAVS41]

I've wanted to retain Middleton, but nowhere near that price.

Who else will pay him it? The 27-year-old has already peaked as a fringe All-Star at best (only named one 'cause of the conference disparity), and he certainly hasn't upvalued himself with his substandard playoffs run—especially his putrid Eastern Conference Finals.

I'd much rather allocate that money to outspending whatever offers Brogdon receives, re-signing Brook Lopez (assuming he doesn't extort similar money), and finding a couple of solid 3&D players to replace the outgoing Middleton.

Hopefully he and the Bucks brass can compromise, because I don't want to lose Khris; I just don't want the Bucks to be hamstrung in free agency, where we'll have other glue players to re-sign or replace. Granted, the FO might find the taxes worthwhile to pay off if it guarantees us a comparably favorable title-contention chance as last season...

He'd get his 4 year max from a number of other teams. The Mavericks I bet would give it to him.

I'm not saying the Bucks should for sure do it, but they are at risk here if they don't improve if they let him go because Giannis only has 2 years left...

The Bledsoe contract is a real killer here as he's not adding much to the team in terms of winning the title...and I don't think he'd be easy to trade...and I think they can't even trade him until October or something because of the extension.

Bledsoe isn't bad, but he's just not what the Bucks need if the goal is winning the title.

[Vino24]

Bucks should try everything they possibly can to get Kyrie. Kyrie >>>Middleton

[Manny98]

That's the big downside to small market teams they have to pay extra to retain their stars

[Kblaze8855]

Hes getting the max. Just depends on if its the bucks max or someone elses. I dont know what people think a max player is these days. It has nothing to do with being elite. How many all stars on the open market ARENT getting max offers?

You might have to pay Brogdan a Parsons style deal to get the Bucks to not match. This is how people get overpaid.

[GOBB]

Hes getting the max. Just depends on if its the bucks max or someone elses. I dont know what people think a max player is these days. It has nothing to do with being elite. How many all stars on the open market ARENT getting max offers?

You might have to pay Brogdan a Parsons style deal to get the Bucks to not match. This is how people get overpaid.

A max player is someone you dont trade after 1 or 2 years into the max deal.

[Jasper]

he is the second option on the Bucks.

My only issue is throughout the season he was ice cold, but recovered nicely in the playoffs.

I think he is worth 25m pr year 125 5 year note.

It would help to retain Lopez , Mic, and Brogdan

[Kblaze8855]

A max player in 2019 is like....Sean Elliot.

Wesley Matthews had a max contract(his max from 2015). And Otto Porter. Whiteside. Harrison Barnes. Batum. Chandler Parsons. Enes Kanter.

Theres like 35-40 of these guys at any given time who would get max money on the open market. Jamal Murray is gonna tax the **** outta Denver.

[DMAVS41]

This is where team building gets really difficult.

Do you pay up as the Bucks...knowing it is a large overpay for the on court impact? Or do you not pay, hope you can retool, and risk Giannis walking in 2 years in part because of not bringing back Middleton to continue to the journey?

These aren't easy decisions and sometimes it is actually smart for a franchise to overpay a player.

With the Bucks, I'm just not sure they could attract a player or players better than Middleton...even with the low cap holds for Brogdon/Lopez.

Maybe they could move Snell/Illya for something this summer and then move Bledsoe in the season...and bring back Brook/Middleton/Brogdon.

If I was the Bucks...I'd probably pay up and then hope I could make an early season move around Bledsoe.

[DMAVS41]

A max player in 2019 is like....Sean Elliot.

Wesley Matthews had a max contract(his max from 2015). And Otto Porter. Whiteside. Harrison Barnes. Batum. Chandler Parsons. Enes Kanter.

Theres like 35-40 of these guys at any given time who would get max money on the open market. Jamal Murray is gonna tax the **** outta Denver.

Interested to know...would you bring back Middleton or let him walk?

[Im so nba'd out]

re-sign


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[Kblaze8855]

As a team that can win a title....and watched the best team in the NBA lose its best player for next year...and the team that beat them could have its best player walk?

You kinda have to run it back for a year or two. Try to win....try to get Giannis to sign back...if he doesnt? You can flip him in his last year and Middleton both for rebuilding pieces. His deal wont look so bad under the new cap. Can move him like Memphis just did Conley. People called that untradeable when it was signed. League just had to catch up.

All star...your #2....when Giannis said this in the past?




If the time comes... because the NBA is business... Even my team, the Bucks, they might say to me: "Giannis we have not won the title after five years. You are our leader, so why we don't win?" And they will bring another guy. They might do this move. We have to win a championship with my team. For sure the right moves should be made in order for this to happen. Nobody won a championship by himself. You have to get the right players. The front office and the general manager have to do their work too. Everyone has to work. Everyone has to work on his part in order to win a championship.

If I do my part and some others don't, then a change would have to happen... If this change does not happen, then, the Bucks can move forward without me, or I can move on without the Bucks.


And with the title even more up for grabs than usual next year?


I say pay him....try to win...if you dont? Throw the whole team away in 2 years.*



*If Giannis wont sign back that is.

[DMAVS41]

As a team that can win a title....and watched the best team in the NBA lose its best player for next year...and the team that beat them could have its best player walk?

You kinda have to run it back for a year or two. Try to win....try to get Giannis to sign back...if he doesnt? You can flip him in his last year and Middleton both for rebuilding pieces. His deal wont look so bad under the new cap. Can move him like Memphis just did Conley. People called that untradeable when it was signed. League just had to catch up.

All star...your #2....when Giannis said this in the past?






And with the title even more up for grabs than usual next year?


I say pay him....try to win...if you dont? Throw the whole team away in 2 years.

Agreed.

I think the real tough thing for this team will be to try and flip Bledsoe and or Snell for something that actually helps in the playoffs.

[Charlie Sheen]

first thing i thought of when I read the title...

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[jbryan1984]

That is insane. This day in age, 20 million a year for a player like him is acceptable. Probably not much more than that.

[Kblaze8855]

George Hill makes 19 million. 66 people make over 17 million.

20 million isn

[Hotlantadude81]

I'm all about getting yourself well-paid, but come on man, be realistic. "If you won't pay me my 5-year max, then I'm gonna go somewhere else that can't pay as much." Just get the hell out, man

And we

[Marchesk]

[QUOTE=Hotlantadude81]And we

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

No one's asking for a source? Just believe any post someone tags as WOJBOMB? :facepalm

[Im so nba'd out]

No one's asking for a source? Just believe any post someone tags as WOJBOMB? :facepalm
source....???

Just go to his twitter :oldlol:

He wants a 5 year max from the Bucks.That's what the 5-year max is for a player in his situation

[Naero]

He'd get his 4 year max from a number of other teams. The Mavericks I bet would give it to him.

I'm not saying the Bucks should for sure do it, but they are at risk here if they don't improve if they let him go because Giannis only has 2 years left...

The Bledsoe contract is a real killer here as he's not adding much to the team in terms of winning the title...and I don't think he'd be easy to trade...and I think they can't even trade him until October or something because of the extension.

Bledsoe isn't bad, but he's just not what the Bucks need if the goal is winning the title.

Perhaps, but the Bucks don't have the same cap-space as other likely suitors. Lopez, Mirotic, and Brogdon need to be re-signed or replaced this off-season, and signing Middleton to the maximum would inflexibilize us greatly for doing so.

I want them to re-sign Middleton to keep our title-contention chances intact, but those chances will be similarly jeopardized without other moves this off-season. There'll be tax overages to pay off if they grant Middleton this contract and try to field enough sharpshooters to complement Giannis (or compensate for his shooting deficiencies), so I hope the FO is willing to bite that bullet if push comes to shove.

Agreed about Bledsoe's contract. I don't think he or Middleton are worth the maximum contract; however, I definitely would've preferred the latter in that dilemma. A title is still winnable with him, but his decision-making has been too inimical, to say the least, in the playoffs to be a viable second option.

[Naero]

No one's asking for a source? Just believe any post someone tags as WOJBOMB? :facepalm

Not sure why you're suggesting it's apocryphal. It's been posted on his Twitter as stated above, and it's even headlined on the official NBA website.

Woj is one of the most widely followed reporters there is, so I'm sure someone would've impugned this thread by now if he didn't authenticate it himself.

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

Not sure why you're suggesting it's apocryphal. It's been posted on his Twitter as stated above, and it's even headlined on the official NBA website.

Woj is one of the most widely followed reporters there is, so I'm sure someone would've impugned this thread by now if he didn't authenticate it himself.
Not the point. Are you new here? Plenty of ppl post trash fake news threads that are believable. Why should we just believe them? Or go check twitter ourselves? And I already knew this about Middleton. Still a trash OP not to cite anything.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Bucks ****ed up signing Bledsoe to that contract so early

If they just waited it out it'd have been easier

[RoseCity07]

Middleton has a lot of nerve making demands. Dude choked big time vs the Raptors.


I would hesitate to pay middleton 100 million. 190 is insanity.

[coin24]

He choked big time in the playoffs.
He's not worth $20m per

Good luck bucks.


Bledsoe was god awful in the playoffs also

[GOBB]

He choked big time in the playoffs.
He's not worth $20m per

Good luck bucks.


Bledsoe was god awful in the playoffs also

What the hell? He

[GOBB]

A max player in 2019 is like....Sean Elliot.

Wesley Matthews had a max contract(his max from 2015). And Otto Porter. Whiteside. Harrison Barnes. Batum. Chandler Parsons. Enes Kanter.

Theres like 35-40 of these guys at any given time who would get max money on the open market. Jamal Murray is gonna tax the **** outta Denver.

Teams just not smart. Most of those players you named aren

[RealSkipBayless]

He might be worth that price to the Bucks since they either pay him that amount or lose him and have no space to replace.

Other then that? I doubt a team would go over 25m for this dude.

[DMAVS41]

Teams just not smart. Most of those players you named aren’t even with the team they signed the max with. Milw decides to go for it all next season they give Kris his max. Then it all depends on how far Milw goes. A second rd or ECF exit? Now Milw is probably looking to change it up starting with Kris. Say they make it to ECF or finals. Lose, Milw May try one more season with same core. If it doesn’t work then Kris is being dangled for trade.

Mike Conley given max by Memphis. And he is a Utah Jazz the next 2 years of his max deal. Why did they have to max out Conley again, fear of losing him and doing bad even tho their team is picking #2 in tonight’s draft lol

I get it tho. It’s less is a player worth the max than it is will he get the max. Kris will get it. I just hope my team isn’t given it. Same with Tobias Harris. Heck I do t want Jimmy for 5 years at age 29. But I think he’s more important in the grand scheme of things than Tobias despite being a perfect compliment to Embiid at the 4.

How far does the needle go down if u pass on Tobias getting a max? I don’t think the needle moves much on the negative side. How bad are the bucks if they say nah no max Kris and go an alternative route? Teams are too afraid of this risk


It is hard. The risk is that the Bucks don't pay him and then Giannis wants out in 2 years in part because of it.

I think they have to pay Middleton and Brogdon, and then hope to move Bledsoe in the season to either save some money or get a player that actually moves the needle in the playoffs.

For the Sixers, if you let Harris walk, you traded real assets for nothing. That would be a pretty big disaster. That is why that trade was so risky when you had guys like Mirotic and Porter clearly available for far less.

[GOBB]

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It is hard. The risk is that the Bucks don't pay him and then Giannis wants out in 2 years in part because of it.

I think they have to pay Middleton and Brogdon, and then hope to move Bledsoe in the season to either save some money or get a player that actually moves the needle in the playoffs.

For the Sixers, if you let Harris walk, you traded real assets for nothing. That would be a pretty big disaster. That is why that trade was so risky when you had guys like Mirotic and Porter clearly available for far less.

I forgot a lot of times you are overpaying for also keeping stars happy.

[Kblaze8855]

I think this just isnt the year to count coins. The Warriors out of the way and the team that lucked into beating them is likely losing its best player? Then Kyrie leaving the Celtics.....

If youre the Bucks and 76ers dont you already know its probably you two in the ECF barring something odd?

You pay Tobias and Jimmy for now....Bucks pay Middleton. Gotta go for the ring while the Warriors are down and the Raptors are hopefully looking to rebuild. You lost to them by a 3-4 bounce miracle. You could have lucked into a ring.

You overpay short term...if you win it was worth it...if you dont? Jimmy and tobis can be traded. One or both of them. But this isnt the year to get cheap. Its too wide open.

[coin24]

Harris? Talk about paying for mediocrity

[DMAVS41]

Harris? Talk about paying for mediocrity

What is the real alternative though? The Sixers gave up real assets to get him.

You let him walk and it is kind of a disaster.

[GOBB]

How is Harris mediocre? He

[GOBB]

What is the real alternative though? The Sixers gave up real assets to get him.

You let him walk and it is kind of a disaster.

The one asset I think that was valuable out of this trade was u protected Miami first. Losing our first? I

[Jasper]

he is the second option on the Bucks.

My only issue is throughout the season he was ice cold, but recovered nicely in the playoffs.

I think he is worth 25m pr year 125 5 year note.

It would help to retain Lopez , Mic, and Brogdan
I did not mean to forget George Hill.
All of these players want to come back.
Chris should get 25m as 2nd option.
Lopez will garner 15m 3 years with a player option in 3rd year.
Mic will be in the 12-14M same as Lopez
Brogdan will be in the 15-18mil and a 3 year note.
George will have to come down because of his age , but 16m 3 year note isn[t out of question.

LIKE I SAID BEFORE ALL OF THESE GUYS LIKE THE FRANCHISE AND LOCATION.
George stated it was the best team he ever played on.
he has been around the block.
Coachs have all developed these guys, so that means something as well.

[NBAGOAT]

i really doubt the bucks keep everyone. Mirotic seems like a goner and the Bucks shouldnt miss him too much. He mainly just brought some scoring value in the playoffs when brogdan was out. Hill maybe comes back for cheap but quite a few teams could like him as a backup

[DMAVS41]

[QUOTE=GOBB]The one asset I think that was valuable out of this trade was u protected Miami first. Losing our first? I

[Jasper]

i really doubt the bucks keep everyone. Mirotic seems like a goner and the Bucks shouldnt miss him too much. He mainly just brought some scoring value in the playoffs when brogdan was out. Hill maybe comes back for cheap but quite a few teams could like him as a backup


dude Morotic will not leave , he loves playing withe the team , he stated it was the best team he played on , as well.
You can't replace a stretch 4 that plays defense, rebounds, and makes free throws.
When Brog was out Frazier and Hill took his place not Mic (mic started some)
Mic played more minutes than normal , and that was because Coach didn't trust his soph's and younger players in general.

[NBAGOAT]

dude Morotic will not leave , he loves playing withe the team , he stated it was the best team he played on , as well.
You can't replace a stretch 4 that plays defense, rebounds, and makes free throws.
When Brog was out Frazier and Hill took his place not Mic (mic started some)
Mic played more minutes than normal , and that was because Coach didn't trust his soph's and younger players in general.

then your luxury tax will be insane even if you unload ersan. Even with your generous estimates(and let's be honest khris will get 30mil/yr+ and the bulls are supposedly offering brogdon 4yrs/80), you have like 110 million tied up to 6 players