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1987_Lakers
06-23-2019, 10:10 PM
Just the amount of change and progression the league went through in a 10 year span from 2009-2019 is unheard of. The league is so much different now, philosophy of how the game should be played has changed, teams in 2009 averaged 18 3PA a game, in 2019 it was 32. Teams became more dominant, this started with Boston in 2008, but Miami took it to another level in 2011. The last time the league had this many dominant teams was back in the 80's. Teams now value spacing on the floor at all times, if you are not a center and can't shoot, you are pretty much a liability for the most part. Look at the 2010 Lakers for example, nobody on that team was a 3 point specialist and they won a title, a good GM ten years later wouldn't dare build a team that had similar shooting to the 2010 Lakers. Phil Jackson tried it in New York and failed, Magic did it with the Lakers last off-season and failed.

- We saw the biggest ever failing of a superstar in 2011
- We witnessed the greatest finals in history in 2016, a 73 win team falling to LeBron James in 7 games will always be a top 3 moment in NBA history.
- We saw the greatest team in NBA history with the KD-Curry Warriors
- For me, I witnessed the most exciting player ever in Curry
- All-time great teams winning championships from 2012-2018.
- We saw a team with 3 future MVPs lose in the Finals

You may disagree with me now, but with time and context people will see the same thing I do.

Kblaze8855
06-23-2019, 10:18 PM
With time and context people will forget all this shit like they have with the 80s when you had Birds Celtics, Showtime, and the bad boys but it’s arguable the best team of the period was a 76ers team that had better rivalries with the Celtics and lakers the than any two teams will have in modern times.

Time dulls appreciation of such things.

Some individuals get godhood but as a whole?

All eras are disrespected by the people of the ones to come.

1987_Lakers
06-23-2019, 10:31 PM
With time and context people will forget all this shit like they have with the 80s when you had Birds Celtics, Showtime, and the bad boys but it’s arguable the best team of the period was a 76ers team that had better rivalries with the Celtics and lakers the than any two teams will have in modern times.

Time dulls appreciation of such things.

Some individuals get godhood but as a whole?

All eras are disrespected by the people of the ones to come.

Maybe, when I first joined this forum the 80's were always looked as the golden age of the NBA, that decade doesn't have the same mystique as it once did, but it's still highly regarded by fans who know their history for the most part. I mean, the 80's Lakers-Celtics rivalry is still viewed as the greatest rivalry ever, the Boston-Sixers rivalry in the early-mid 80's was probably better in terms of actual quality, guys like Maxwell and ML Carr seemed to have more respect for the Sixers than they did the Lakers. This decade actually reminded me alot of the 80's in terms of dominant teams being formed.

sdot_thadon
06-23-2019, 11:00 PM
Well another thing is iirc, this era has more champions than any since the 70's. It ended up being pretty eventful as a whole I'd say with star power and I'd even bet the number of different MVP's might be up there as well.

Spurs m8
06-23-2019, 11:10 PM
It was okay, but the game is heading in the wrong direction.

3 jacking, no D, and 99% of players being weak b1tches who would rather collude than win off hard work, is unsettling

LukeWalton
06-23-2019, 11:45 PM
best 10 years

1988 - 1998
it gives you

the ending parts of Lakers vs Celtics
Bad Boy Pistons
Jordan era
and Hakeem the dream

but I would say this last 10 years is better than 1999-2009. this last 10 years you have Kobe, LeBron, the splash bros, and the Spurs longevity

1987_Lakers
06-24-2019, 12:02 AM
best 10 years

1988 - 1998
it gives you

the ending parts of Lakers vs Celtics
Bad Boy Pistons
Jordan era
and Hakeem the dream

I would argue 1983-1993 was better.

- Peak of the Lakers-Celtics rivalry
- Rise of MJ and the Bulls
- Bad Boys

Never was a fan of the mid-late 90's. No MJ for basically two years, NBA added too many expansion teams in a short amount of time, lowering the quality of championship contenders. Weak draft classes in general from '88-'91 lowered the talent pool later in the decade. The individual talent in the league from the late 80's and early 90's was insane.

The best player drafted from '88-'91 was Gary Payton, that is insane. I know he is in the HOF and all, but you would expect someone better than Payton to come out of college in a 4 year span, if not , more players on his level.

TheMan
06-24-2019, 12:05 AM
Just the amount of change and progression the league went through in a 10 year span from 2009-2019 is unheard of. The league is so much different now, philosophy of how the game should be played has changed, teams in 2009 averaged 18 3PA a game, in 2019 it was 32. Teams became more dominant, this started with Boston in 2008, but Miami took it to another level in 2011. The last time the league had this many dominant teams was back in the 80's. Teams now value spacing on the floor at all times, if you are not a center and can't shoot, you are pretty much a liability for the most part. Look at the 2010 Lakers for example, nobody on that team was a 3 point specialist and they won a title, a good GM ten years later wouldn't dare build a team that had similar shooting to the 2010 Lakers. Phil Jackson tried it in New York and failed, Magic did it with the Lakers last off-season and failed.

- We saw the biggest ever failing of a superstar in 2011
- We witnessed the greatest finals in history in 2016, a 73 win team falling to LeBron James in 7 games will always be a top 3 moment in NBA history.
- We saw the greatest team in NBA history with the KD-Curry Warriors
- For me, I witnessed the most exciting player ever in Curry
- All-time great teams winning championships from 2012-2018.
- We saw a team with 3 future MVPs lose in the Finals

You may disagree with me now, but with time and context people will see the same thing I do.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

If he's the most exciting player you're ever seen...I truly feel sorry for you :(

1987_Lakers
06-24-2019, 12:13 AM
:roll: :roll: :roll:

If he's the most exciting player you're ever seen...I truly feel sorry for you :(

There is no player in history more exciting than Curry when he is feeling it. His 2016 season was like seeing someone from another planet.

Something about hitting 30 footers on a consistent basis especially in 2015-2016 was exciting as hell.

TheMan
06-24-2019, 12:40 AM
There is no player in history more exciting than Curry when he is feeling it. His 2016 season was like seeing someone from another planet.

Something about hitting 30 footers on a consistent basis especially in 2015-2016 was exciting as hell.
:facepalm

I'm not even going to...:facepalm

SouBeachTalents
06-24-2019, 12:42 AM
:facepalm

I'm not even going to...:facepalm
FOH, like you can dictate what someone else thinks :lol

TheMan
06-24-2019, 12:44 AM
FOH, like you can dictate what someone else thinks :lol
I know it's subjective, duh.

But really, Steph fukking Curry???

What's next, my most exciting player ever was Tim Duncan!!!

:oldlol:

Bro, I googled most exciting NBA players ever, Bleacher Report did a list on that, Curry comes in at...#100 :lol Take it for what it's worth but again... Curry? LMAO!

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/769552-nba-100-most-exciting-players-in-league-history#slide2

1987_Lakers
06-24-2019, 12:50 AM
:facepalm

I'm not even going to...:facepalm

Again, I don't see how this is a ridiculous statement.
Curry's 2016 season in particular averaged 30/5/7/2 on 50/45/91, making 5 threes a game, with alot of them being contested.

We have never seen a player make 3s off the dribble, contested, or from 30 feet like Curry.

I remember reading somewhere earlier this year that since the 2015 season that Curry had made 45 of 94 shots between 30 and 35 feet, 48%. Do you realize how insane that is?? Again, he is the most exciting player in my lifetime and probably ever, he at least has a good argument. The one looking silly right now is you.

1987_Lakers
06-24-2019, 12:51 AM
Bro, I googled most exciting NBA players ever, Bleacher Report did a list on that, Curry comes in at...#100 :lol Take it for what it's worth but again... Curry? LMAO!

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/769552-nba-100-most-exciting-players-in-league-history#slide2

You really posted an article from 2011? GTFO. :roll:

SouBeachTalents
06-24-2019, 12:52 AM
I know it's subjective, duh.

But really, Steph fukking Curry???

What's next, my most exciting player ever was Tim Duncan!!!

:oldlol:

Bro, I googled most exciting NBA players ever, Bleacher Report did a list on that, Curry comes in at...#100 :lol Take it for what it's worth but again... Curry? LMAO!

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/769552-nba-100-most-exciting-players-in-league-history#slide2
Bro, that article was from the summer of 2011

houston
06-24-2019, 12:52 AM
nba finals this decade was the truth

1987_Lakers
06-24-2019, 01:05 AM
I know it's subjective, duh.

But really, Steph fukking Curry???

What's next, my most exciting player ever was Tim Duncan!!!

:oldlol:

Bro, I googled most exciting NBA players ever, Bleacher Report did a list on that, Curry comes in at...#100 :lol Take it for what it's worth but again... Curry? LMAO!

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/769552-nba-100-most-exciting-players-in-league-history#slide2

Check this article out instead of that outdated crap you posted.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/stephen-curry-exciting-nba-player_n_56e6de28e4b065e2e3d681b5?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAABX17_IwBowvJH0R5Sb_QBy1umAe XL9G4O3aev4jDSB5WI7TWIEpCX-Z8g6NppDpXLJubVsYb0VU9PAdw-IXASKdBMHKScNCLQxQ8-uwI7mLSHUnYLDG1FwykOF1YpJwSatk0GwQsKC7kT-RLeOuewtIsKm3AGeCgioeX3JG8M4F

Here is Magic Johnson himself calling Curry the most exciting player ever during his 2016 season
https://twitter.com/MagicJohnson/status/703804435873472512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5E tweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E703804435873472512&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffpost.com%2Fentry%2Fs tephen-curry-exciting-nba-player_n_56e6de28e4b065e2e3d681b5

Quote from Obama...

TheMan
06-24-2019, 01:20 AM
Meh whatever bro, I'll take a contested in your face dunk over a 30 ft heave but like I said, who gaf :confusedshrug:

bison
06-24-2019, 01:21 AM
I would say it’s second behind the 80s if I were to speak objectively. My biased self might say the 90s were better because of childhood nostalgia or the 00s were better because my lakers were dominant.

Proctor
06-24-2019, 01:29 AM
Meh whatever bro, I'll take a contested in your face dunk over a 30 ft heave but like I said, who gaf :confusedshrug:
B-b-b-but...Huffpost and Obama! :confusedshrug: :facepalm

1987_Lakers
06-24-2019, 01:32 AM
Meh whatever bro, I'll take a contested in your face dunk over a 30 ft heave but like I said, who gaf :confusedshrug:

Problem with that is, you rarely see contested in your face dunks. You see Curry making contested threes all the time. But it's a matter of preference.

Spurs m8
06-24-2019, 01:37 AM
The last few years have actually been pretty boring....its 100% not the best decade.

1987_Lakers
06-24-2019, 01:47 AM
The last few years have actually been pretty boring....its 100% not the best decade.

Regular seasons got boring the moment KD joined the Warriors for me. 2017 playoffs were trash, but we witnessed the GOAT team and the Finals had the greatest talent ever seen in the Finals from both the Warriors & Cavs. The postseason this year and in 2018 were pretty damn entertaining. LeBron went God mode during the 2018 postseason and you had alot of good series' this postseason.

NBAGOAT
06-24-2019, 02:01 AM
stronger era than the 00s title winning team wise even though that can also be a negative since the rs was more boring. Like the 00s started well with shaq/kobe but none of the rest are really on historic lists for most. 08 Celtics had a great RS and the talent but a tough postseason moves them down.

I might be disrespecting duncan/parker/ginobli or kobe/pau/odom as they had the team results but then again there are duncan and kobe fans who have argued those casts arent extremely strong. Meanwhile after 11 Mavs, I've heard many people say the next title team of the decade is the 15 warriors and it's not outrageous. A 67-15 team lol. I might lean 19 raptors but this team is no joke either.

Edit: The prevalence of the 3 isnt the most fun to watch always but it seems like the correct way to play. Only with specific players who cant expand their shooting range 3-4 feet for some reason does it really make sense to take 20 footers instead of 24 footers. I never got all the long 2's taken even when I started watching. I think 12-18 footers can have some usefulness/effectiveness however.

iamgine
06-24-2019, 02:07 AM
All the decades are pretty equal. Except maybe 40s, 50s and 70s.

sportjames23
06-24-2019, 02:22 AM
Hands down, the 80s and 90s were the best era in NBA history.

Round Mound
06-24-2019, 03:08 AM
83-93

Uncle Drew
06-24-2019, 03:30 AM
:facepalm

I'm not even going to...:facepalm
The cancer is oozing from your every post. Embarrassing behaviour itt.

Mr Feeny
06-24-2019, 05:23 AM
Just the amount of change and progression the league went through in a 10 year span from 2009-2019 is unheard of. The league is so much different now, philosophy of how the game should be played has changed, teams in 2009 averaged 18 3PA a game, in 2019 it was 32. Teams became more dominant, this started with Boston in 2008, but Miami took it to another level in 2011. The last time the league had this many dominant teams was back in the 80's. Teams now value spacing on the floor at all times, if you are not a center and can't shoot, you are pretty much a liability for the most part. Look at the 2010 Lakers for example, nobody on that team was a 3 point specialist and they won a title, a good GM ten years later wouldn't dare build a team that had similar shooting to the 2010 Lakers. Phil Jackson tried it in New York and failed, Magic did it with the Lakers last off-season and failed.

- We saw the biggest ever failing of a superstar in 2011
- We witnessed the greatest finals in history in 2016, a 73 win team falling to LeBron James in 7 games will always be a top 3 moment in NBA history.
- We saw the greatest team in NBA history with the KD-Curry Warriors
- For me, I witnessed the most exciting player ever in Curry
- All-time great teams winning championships from 2012-2018.
- We saw a team with 3 future MVPs lose in the Finals

You may disagree with me now, but with time and context people will see the same thing I do.

"Biggest ever failing of a superstar in 2011":oldlol:
That would be Kobe in 2000 and 2004. Lebron in 2011 was better than Kobe was in either of those utter failures.

tanibanana
06-24-2019, 05:31 AM
For me, all decade are equal, each varies in their own greatness...
See for yourselves...

2010s:
PG: Curry, Paul, Westbrook
SG: Wade, Harden
SF: James, Durant, George, Leonard
PF: Aldridge, Griffin
C: Howard
Coach: Kerr

2000s:
PG: Nash, Kidd
SG: Bryant, Iverson, Allen, McGrady
SF: Pierce
PF: Duncan, Nowitzki, Garnett
C: OʼNeal, Gasol
Coach: Popovich

1990s:
PG: Stockton, Payton
SG: Jordan, Drexler, Miller
SF: Pippen
PF: Malone, Barkley, Rodman
C: Olajuwon, Robinson, Ewing
Coach: Jackson

1980s:
PG: Johnson, Thomas, Johnson
SG: Moncrief
SF: Bird, Wilkins, Worthy, Dantley, English
PF: McHale
C: Malone, Parish
Coach: Riley

1970s: (NBA/ABA era)
PG: Frazier, Archibald
SG: Maravich, Gervin, Thompson
SF: Erving, Havlicek, Barry
PF: Cowens
C: Jabbar, Gilmore, Walton
Coach: Holzman

1960s:
PG: Robertson, West, Wilkens
SG: Jones
SF: Baylor, Greer
PF: Heinsohn, Lucas, Johnson
C: Chamberlaine, Russell, Thurmond
Coach: Auerbach

1950s:
PG: Cousy, Martin
SG: Sharman, Wanzer, Davies
SF: Arizin
PF: Pettit, Schayes, Pollard
C: Mikan, Johnston, Macauley
Coach: Kundla

This is a dream tournament... :rockon:

Mr Feeny
06-24-2019, 05:34 AM
For me, all decade are equal, each varies in their own greatness...
See for yourselves...

2010s:
PG: Curry, Paul, Westbrook
SG: Wade, Harden
SF: James, Durant, George, Leonard
PF: Aldridge, Griffin
C: Howard
Coach: Kerr

2000s:
PG: Nash, Kidd
SG: Bryant, Iverson, Allen, McGrady
SF: Pierce
PF: Duncan, Nowitzki, Garnett
C: OʼNeal, Gasol
Coach: Popovich

1990s:
PG: Stockton, Payton
SG: Jordan, Drexler, Miller
SF: Pippen
PF: Malone, Barkley, Rodman
C: Olajuwon, Robinson, Ewing
Coach: Jackson

1980s:
PG: Johnson, Thomas, Johnson
SG: Moncrief
SF: Bird, Wilkins, Worthy, Dantley, English
PF: McHale
C: Malone, Parish
Coach: Riley

1970s: (NBA/ABA era)
PG: Frazier, Archibald
SG: Maravich, Gervin, Thompson
SF: Erving, Havlicek, Barry
PF: Cowens
C: Jabbar, Gilmore, Walton
Coach: Holzman

1960s:
PG: Robertson, West, Wilkens
SG: Jones
SF: Baylor, Greer
PF: Heinsohn, Lucas, Johnson
C: Chamberlaine, Russell, Thurmond
Coach: Auerbach

1950s:
PG: Cousy, Martin
SG: Sharman, Wanzer, Davies
SF: Arizin
PF: Pettit, Schayes, Pollard
C: Mikan, Johnston, Macauley
Coach: Kundla

This is a dream tournament... :rockon:

Lebron was the best player on the planet from 2008 onwards. And was one of the top 5 for the previous 2 seasons. I think he has got a better claim than Pierce to be the SF for the 2000s team.

tanibanana
06-24-2019, 05:38 AM
Lebron was the best player on the planet from 2008 onwards. And was one of the top 5 for the previous 2 seasons. I think he has got a better claim than Pierce to be the SF for the 2000s team.

I agree..
But to put the

Mr Feeny
06-24-2019, 06:16 AM
[QUOTE=tanibanana]I agree..
But to put the

Soundwave
06-24-2019, 06:24 AM
There was some good basketball, but 1987-1997 takes the cake for me by a large margin.

There's not enough good rivalries in the last 10 years, hell even the old Shaq-Kobe Lakers vs. the CWebb Kings felt more intense.

87-97 gives you Lakers-Celtics, Lakers-Pistons, Pistons-Bulls, Bulls-Knicks, Bulls-Jazz. Even stuff like Hakeem destroying DRob head to head in the mid-90s was a ton of fun.

That and the players nowadays are boring as ****. You don't have the personalities of the 80s/90s.

sportjames23
06-24-2019, 06:28 AM
There was some good basketball, but 1987-1997 takes the cake for me by a large margin.

There's not enough good rivalries in the last 10 years, hell even the old Shaq-Kobe Lakers vs. the CWebb Kings felt more intense.

87-97 gives you Lakers-Celtics, Lakers-Pistons, Pistons-Bulls, Bulls-Knicks, Bulls-Jazz. Even stuff like Hakeem destroying DRob head to head in the mid-90s was a ton of fun.

That and the players nowadays are boring as ****. You don't have the personalities of the 80s/90s.

:cheers:

egokiller
06-24-2019, 08:33 AM
:roll: :roll:
If he's the most exciting player you're ever seen...I truly feel sorry for you :

:lol

He's basically saying a decade that didn't contain MJ is somehow the greatest decade in the history of basketball. The insecurities need to stop.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Leviathon1121
06-24-2019, 08:57 AM
There was some good basketball, but 1987-1997 takes the cake for me by a large margin.

There's not enough good rivalries in the last 10 years, hell even the old Shaq-Kobe Lakers vs. the CWebb Kings felt more intense.

87-97 gives you Lakers-Celtics, Lakers-Pistons, Pistons-Bulls, Bulls-Knicks, Bulls-Jazz. Even stuff like Hakeem destroying DRob head to head in the mid-90s was a ton of fun.

That and the players nowadays are boring as ****. You don't have the personalities of the 80s/90s.
This, true rivalries are what made the NBA so exciting. There was nothing better then having that NBA on NBC theme song come on before a couple teams who hated each other were playing.

This era finally had a chance for a quality rivalry but the team up attitude and Kevin Durant ruined it.

TheMan
06-24-2019, 09:30 AM
There was some good basketball, but 1987-1997 takes the cake for me by a large margin.

There's not enough good rivalries in the last 10 years, hell even the old Shaq-Kobe Lakers vs. the CWebb Kings felt more intense.

87-97 gives you Lakers-Celtics, Lakers-Pistons, Pistons-Bulls, Bulls-Knicks, Bulls-Jazz. Even stuff like Hakeem destroying DRob head to head in the mid-90s was a ton of fun.

That and the players nowadays are boring as ****. You don't have the personalities of the 80s/90s.
Cavs vs Bulls were fun too, also Knicks vs Pacers and Knicks vs Heat...

FKAri
06-24-2019, 09:46 AM
He's basically saying a decade that didn't contain MJ is somehow the greatest decade in the history of basketball. The insecurities need to stop.

:roll: :roll: :roll:
You're basically saying a decade that didn't contain MJ is for that reason not the greatest decade in the history of basketball. The insecurities need to stop.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

tpols
06-24-2019, 09:53 AM
:roll: :roll: :roll:

If he's the most exciting player you're ever seen...I truly feel sorry for you :(


Chef's 2016 was the most alien GOAT performance ever...

There's never been anything remotely like it, even Jordan's game copycatted from previous eras.

warriorfan
06-24-2019, 09:59 AM
TheMan is super low iq. :oldlol:

TheCorporation
06-24-2019, 10:14 AM
I know it's subjective, duh.

But really, Steph fukking Curry???

What's next, my most exciting player ever was Tim Duncan!!!

:oldlol:

Bro, I googled most exciting NBA players ever, Bleacher Report did a list on that, Curry comes in at...#100 :lol Take it for what it's worth but again... Curry? LMAO!

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/769552-nba-100-most-exciting-players-in-league-history#slide2

Imagine posting an article from 2011 during a 2019 conversation

WHAT YEAR IS IT

warriorfan
06-24-2019, 10:19 AM
Imagine posting an article from 2011 during a 2019 conversation

WHAT YEAR IS IT

Hey take it easy on him. Dude is legit from Mexico. Hell of a tortilla roller but he can barley count. It

egokiller
06-24-2019, 10:46 AM
You're basically saying a decade that didn't contain MJ is for that reason not the greatest decade in the history of basketball.

That's exactly what I'm saying.

Glad that we cleared this one up boys! :banana:

Besides, unless the era has the NBA on NBC theme it loses by default.

Manny98
06-24-2019, 10:48 AM
Imagine posting an article from 2011 during a 2019 conversation

WHAT YEAR IS IT
:roll: :roll:

TheMan
06-24-2019, 10:52 AM
TheMan is super low iq. :oldlol:
Nah, you easily take that...in fact, you're quite famous for that.

Bosnian Sajo
06-24-2019, 10:54 AM
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]With time and context people will forget all this shit like they have with the 80s when you had Birds Celtics, Showtime, and the bad boys but it

egokiller
06-24-2019, 10:54 AM
Why post an article that is 8 years old that doesn't properly describe Curry's game that we know today?

Mr Feeny
06-24-2019, 10:54 AM
For me, it was 1997-96. Those Bulls jazz wars. Then Shaq becoming the dominant force in basketball. Then the Pistons bringing back defense. And finally everything about the 2006 playoffs.

Brilliant first rounds with the Suns coming back from 3-1 against the lakers while Barbosa outplayed Kobe in game 1 as Bell held Kobe to just 1 point in the biggest game of the season.
Wade going through and insane run and putting up the best finals performance since Jorsan against Dallas.
Lebron with multiple game winners against Wahington and then taking Detroit to 7 games.
Dallas with the crazy game 7 win against the Spurs when they looked out and dead before Dirk's 3 point play.

TheMan
06-24-2019, 10:55 AM
Hey take it easy on him. Dude is legit from Mexico. Hell of a tortilla roller but he can barley count. It’s a miracle that he is even using a computer.:biggums:

Learn how to spell "barely" first...

You live in a trailer park you meth head...you brag about having guns, dope and cholo neighbors you low class inbred white boi :oldlol:

egokiller
06-24-2019, 11:06 AM
:biggums:

Learn how to spell "barely" first...

You live in a trailer park you meth head...you brag about having guns, dope and cholo neighbors you low class inbred white boi :oldlol:

How can he live in a trailer park if he lives in an apartment complex? Wheels spent 2 weeks of his life looking at every photo warriorfan ever posted to get the right metadata off it with the GPS coordinates to where warriorfan lived.

The fact that someone on here caused another user to invest 2 weeks of their own life into something like that is the biggest win in the history of ISH. :oldlol:

TheMan
06-24-2019, 11:12 AM
Why post an article that is 8 years old that doesn't properly describe Curry's game that we know today?
I didn't bother to look at the date...

Really don't care that much, like I said, it's subjective but my idea of an exciting player is someone who challenges defenses around the rim and posterizes defenders, Curry has NEVER postered someone up...but he heaves 30 fters and hits a few of them! :rolleyes: But whatever, it's still a low IQ shot and as a defender, I want you to take 30 fters.

bigkingsfan
06-24-2019, 11:12 AM
For me, it was 1997-96
http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/mj-laughing.gif

Andrei89
06-24-2019, 11:12 AM
Christ to say Curry is the most exciting player you have ever seen.

D-Wade from 2004 to 2012 was twice more exciting than Curry. And that is just my example because I am a homer.

I can imagine all the Shaq, Jordan, Kobe, Nowitzki fans seeing this shit.

Even Dirk was much more exiting to watch.

Mr Feeny
06-24-2019, 11:13 AM
http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/mj-laughing.gif

Let me guess. You havent watched any of that.

Mr Feeny
06-24-2019, 11:14 AM
Christ to say Curry is the most exciting player you have ever seen.

D-Wade from 2004 to 2012 was twice more exciting than Curry. And that is just my example because I am a homer.

I can imagine all the Shaq, Jordan, Kobe, Nowitzki fans seeing this shit.

Even Dirk was much more exiting to watch.

It is subjective though. Curry was very fun to watch. I cant imagine anyone arguing that watching Shaq bulldoze into people was more exciting than watching Curry hit deep 3s after splitting double teams.

Andrei89
06-24-2019, 11:16 AM
It is subjective though. Curry was very fun to watch. I cant imagine anyone arguing that watching Shaq bulldoze into people was more exciting than watching Curry hit deep 3s after splitting double teams.


It definitely was. Watching that pure power combined with athleticism wrecking underneath the basket gave me more excitement than a thousand Curry threes.

Watching D-Wade split defenses and and slash at the basket with such finesse while also blocking the shit out of people at 6 foot 4 is so much better than Curry could ever deliver.

Mr Feeny
06-24-2019, 11:18 AM
It definitely was. Watching that pure power combined with athleticism wrecking underneath the basket gave me more excitement than a thousand Curry threes.

Watching D-Wade split defenses and and slash at the basket with such finesse while also blocking the shit out of people at 6 foot 4 is so much better than Curry could ever deliver.

I agree about Wade. Because he was one of the most exciting players to watch. Most of it had to do with the myriad of ways in which he could score.

With Shaq, it's a matter of opinion. Watching him back down a defender on every single possession was not fun. He was the best in the world because of his physical advantage, but it didnt make it fun, for me.

TheMan
06-24-2019, 11:21 AM
Christ to say Curry is the most exciting player you have ever seen.

D-Wade from 2004 to 2012 was twice more exciting than Curry. And that is just my example because I am a homer.

I can imagine all the Shaq, Jordan, Kobe, Nowitzki fans seeing this shit.

Even Dirk was much more exiting to watch.
Exactly, we don't agree on much but DWade was a joy to watch, the way he attacked the rim. Grant Hill, Kobe, Nique, DRose, Pippen, TMac, VC etc are all much more exciting to watch than some guy who heaves 30 foot shots, come on:roll: Not a LeBron guy but he is 1000 times more exciting to watch than Curry, especially peak James...

FKAri
06-24-2019, 11:25 AM
I didn't bother to look at the date...

Really don't care that much, like I said, it's subjective but my idea of an exciting player is someone who challenges defenses around the rim and posterizes defenders, Curry has NEVER postered someone up...but he heaves 30 fters and hits a few of them! :rolleyes: But whatever, it's still a low IQ shot and as a defender, I want you to take 30 fters.
Just come out and say it. You like dunks. We get it.

egokiller
06-24-2019, 11:25 AM
Let me guess. You havent watched any of that.
:roll:

No, he'd rather make himself look like a jackass in typical wheels fashion commenting on something he never saw.

1987_Lakers
06-24-2019, 11:28 AM
Let me guess. You havent watched any of that.

He's clearly laughing at your typo. 1997-96

egokiller
06-24-2019, 11:29 AM
I didn't bother to look at the date...

Really don't care that much, like I said, it's subjective but my idea of an exciting player is someone who challenges defenses around the rim and posterizes defenders, Curry has NEVER postered someone up...but he heaves 30 fters and hits a few of them! :rolleyes: But whatever, it's still a low IQ shot and as a defender, I want you to take 30 fters.

False

http://i63.tinypic.com/28sg0k.gif

andgar923
06-24-2019, 11:39 AM
Agree with those that believe late 80s-mid 90s is best.

There was a mixture of old school and new school. A clear transition that mixed old school toughness and fundamentals- with modern training before the league became watered down with inexperienced young players and overhyped prospects. The league started to change rules in the late 90s that opened the door to this shit we have now.

Phoenix
06-24-2019, 12:16 PM
It's hard to not sound like an old man shouting at the clouds, but I'm on the mid 80's to mid 90's train. Real rivalries, bigman post play, the midrange game, no analytics-based over-reliance on a particular shot that everyone tries to duplicate, more stylistic differences between stars and teams in general.

egokiller
06-24-2019, 12:26 PM
It's hard to not sound like an old man shouting at the clouds, but I'm on the mid 80's to mid 90's train. Real rivalries, bigman post play, the midrange game, no analytics-based over-reliance on a particular shot that everyone tries to duplicate, more stylistic differences between stars and teams in general.

:applause:

LAmbruh
06-24-2019, 12:27 PM
good to see the consensus among landslide majority that we are truly in the golden era of hoops :bowdown:

egokiller
06-24-2019, 12:56 PM
Agree with those that believe late 80s-mid 90s is best.

There was a mixture of old school and new school. A clear transition that mixed old school toughness and fundamentals- with modern training before the league became watered down with inexperienced young players and overhyped prospects. The league started to change rules in the late 90s that opened the door to this shit we have now.

It really is good to see that the vast majority that ever watched basketball since consider this to be the GOAT decade of ball. This includes a vast majority of guys that were in HS during the 60's that still say late 80s-mid 90s is best without any bias.

Gus Hemmingway
06-24-2019, 12:57 PM
good to see the consensus among landslide majority that we are truly in the golden era of hoops :bowdown:
What a time indeed :applause:



so blessed

Gus Hemmingway
06-24-2019, 12:59 PM
You're basically saying a decade that didn't contain MJ is for that reason not the greatest decade in the history of basketball. The insecurities need to stop.

:roll: :roll: :roll:
:roll: :roll:

TheMan
06-24-2019, 01:03 PM
Just come out and say it. You like dunks. We get it.
I like athletic wings who slash and challenge defenders near the rim. As much as I talk shit about LeBron, watching him in his physical peak was exciting, the way he played above the rim...that to me is an exciting player. And don't get me wrong, Curry is a hell of a player, probably the best shooter ever but I cringe at 30 ft jumpers, even if they go in because I just consider them low IQ shots, I mean, you couldn't create a better shot than that??? Probably just to old school.

I was playing ball the other day, first time in a few years and holy shit, the amount of long range threes taken by kids today trying to imitate Curry was just annoying :facepalm But to be fair, same thing happened in the 90s and 2000s when I balled regularly, you had kids trying to be MJ, Kobe, AI ISOing and forcing bad shots :lol

TheMan
06-24-2019, 01:07 PM
good to see the consensus among landslide majority that we are truly in the golden era of hoops :bowdown:
Take out Simon's alts and today's era being the best is just 1987_Lakers by himself :lol

stalkerforlife
06-24-2019, 01:08 PM
Oh yes, the Lecollude era without defense was so great.

NBAGOAT
06-24-2019, 01:09 PM
my only counter to people saying definitively 80s to 90s is some people tend to list names without sometimes accounting they werent great at the same time. Like bird and shaq have no overlap for example. It's hard to judge the great players of this era without seeing how their careers finish yet. like Jokic/Embiid/Towns could end up being hofers or fizzle out in their 20s and be completely forgotten in 15 years, we just dont know

Leviathon1121
06-24-2019, 01:21 PM
good to see the consensus among landslide majority that we are truly in the golden era of hoops :bowdown:
I think you need to buy a dictionary :roll:

1987_Lakers
06-24-2019, 01:21 PM
Another thing that isnt talked about is that for the most part Iso ball went down consideably in this era. Teams emphasized ball movement more and less ISO ball compared to the 90's and 00's

egokiller
06-24-2019, 01:34 PM
Take out Simon's alts and today's era being the best is just 1987_Lakers by himself :lol

:roll:

It

FKAri
06-24-2019, 01:37 PM
Agree with those that believe late 80s-mid 90s is best.

There was a mixture of old school and new school. A clear transition that mixed old school toughness and fundamentals- with modern training before the league became watered down with inexperienced young players and overhyped prospects. The league started to change rules in the late 90s that opened the door to this shit we have now.

It's hard to not sound like an old man shouting at the clouds, but I'm on the mid 80's to mid 90's train. Real rivalries, bigman post play, the midrange game, no analytics-based over-reliance on a particular shot that everyone tries to duplicate, more stylistic differences between stars and teams in general.
I am also partial to this. Though I wouldn't consider the league diluted. I think the worst point was the 4-5 years after MJ's retirement. It got much better once Stern stepped in with the rule changes :pimp:

Showtime80'
06-24-2019, 01:51 PM
Like some have said, the true Golden Era of basketball, started when Magic and Larry joined the league in 1980 up to 1998 when Michael retired the second time. The best rivalries, players and storylines played in that period.

The league fell off a cliff right after and it has progressed painfully sideways instead of forward. It has become more WWE and TMZ fueled content than sport with boring redundant and monotonous style of play of 3's and layups copied by ALL 30 teams geared in large part by ridiculously pro offensive rule changes that have turned zeros into heroes. No team or player rivalries, no loyalty, no true passion for the sport.

Here's Bob Costas talking about it back in 1998:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUcBnfJGJgA

For the people that watched that era this was the end of possibly the greatest period for a sports league in history and it was sad as well because we knew it was never going to be the same and it wasn't.

red1
06-24-2019, 02:19 PM
nothing crazy about that OP this decade has been great with the exception of the years the lakers and warriors won.

mavs
spurs
heat
cavs
raps


some great championship teams right there.

Gus Hemmingway
06-24-2019, 02:20 PM
more iconic 2016 Finals moments than there were in the entirety of 90's playoffs :oldlol:



"we can't even name Craig Ehlo's backup" - JR Smith :yaohappy:

Showtime80'
06-24-2019, 02:22 PM
Honestly 1987 I really wonder if you've watched ANY NBA prior to 2010 when you make some of your comments. You should work for ESPN with all the misinformation:

Assists per game in the 90's=

24

Assists per game in the 10's=

22

The 90's offenses have the advantage even with the pace falling of a cliff from 1995 to 1999 as well as defenses not being neutered by rule changes yet, LOL!

The ISO ball hog phenomenon started with the wannabe MJ hip hop generation inneficient punks like Iverson, Carter, McGrady, Kobe, Francis, Davis, Marbury and the like who convinced their teams to built offensive systems around them just because MJ had success with the Bulls, what transpired was probably the worst era for offensive basketball since the 50's from 2000 to 2004 and the NBA was FORCED to change the rules to make life easier for these knuckleheads because they knew this trend was only going to get worse, might as well get ahead of it.

Today's shoot first ball dominant PG's are basically the bastard children of the wannabe MJ early 2000's generation, with SKYROCKETING usage rates never seen before they are actually KILLING ball movement and rhythm strangling their offenses by dribbling for 20+ seconds only to shoot a contested 25 footers, GREAT BASKETBALL!!!

1987_Lakers
06-24-2019, 02:49 PM
The fact that you used assists numbers show you dont know what you are talking about. The 2016 Thunder for example were top 10 in the league in assists, but we all know they were mostly an ISO team.

You can't name me a championship team from the 90's that had better ball-movement than the 2012-2014 Spurs or the 2015-2017 Warriors. It's all about the eye test.