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[andgar923]

They say.

Today’s defense is better cause they ain’t milkmen, they say.

I say...

https://youtu.be/Jh-szbNsmHw

https://youtu.be/RFZFBfnmVQY

https://youtu.be/3YU1HkOwRlk

You telling me he couldn’t average 40 today?

This is old man MJ.
This is vs a more congested physical league than today.

You saying prime MJ wouldn’t obliterate today’s defense?

[Uncle Drew]

Is DeRozan averaging 40? There’s your answer.

[Gileraracer]

Lebron is a terrible shooter and averages 27 for his career.

Allow Mike to stiff arm and travel and he's an easy 40PPG guy

[andgar923]

https://youtu.be/Kqd_X6LuFHg

[FKAri]

If he wants to dominate usage and take teams to the lottery then yes he can avg 40pts. As long as it'll make you happy. Because making the fans happy is what it's all about in the end. :applause:

[bigkingsfan]

Ordan wouldn't know that to do against box-and-1 defense.

[Mr Feeny]

Ordan wouldn't know that to do against box-and-1 defense.the fact that you dropped the J in Jordan, to imply that he didnt play defense, tells us you know nothing about basketball. And never watched a second of Jordan playing.

[Gileraracer]

the fact that you dropped the J in Jordan, to imply that he didnt play defense, tells us you know nothing about basketball. And never watched a second of Jordan playing.

Doesn't that imply that he didn't have a jumper? However, both versions are ridiculous. But since we know that 90% of the Lebron stans weren't even born when Jordan 3peated the second time we can't even blame them for their stupidity.

[egokiller]

I love it when these lebron homers start melting down over the fact that they had to settle for watching mediocrity instead of MJ. The cherry on top is how they know MJ would shit on this league even harder than he shit on the 90's. :applause:

[Hey Yo]

the fact that you dropped the J in Jordan, to imply that he didnt play defense, tells us you know nothing about basketball. And never watched a second of Jordan playing.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Mr Feeny]

Doesn't that imply that he didn't have a jumper? However, both versions are ridiculous. But since we know that 90% of the Lebron stans weren't even born when Jordan 3peated the second time we can't even blame them for their stupidity.

Not sure. But as you said, it doesn't get any dumber. Jordan was a much better shooter than Lebron so for a Lebron fanboy to say that tripe is a little ironic.

[Mr Feeny]

I love it when these lebron homers start melting down over the fact that they had to settle for watching mediocrity instead of MJ. The cherry on top is how they know MJ would shit on this league even harder than he shit on the 90's. :applause:

Everyone is allowed to watch and enjoy what he or she wants. Where it gets silly is when you have kids who never watched a previous era, attempt to converse about it.

[Hey Yo]

I love it when these lebron homers start melting down over the fact that they had to settle for watching mediocrity instead of MJ. The cherry on top is how they know MJ would shit on this league even harder than he shit on the 90's. :applause:
Would he shit on his own team even harder when he quits on them in this era?

[egokiller]

Would he shit on his own team even harder when he quits on them in this era?

When you repeat 3 peat, it's an automatic free pass. :banana:


Everyone is allowed to watch and enjoy what he or she wants. Where it gets silly is when you have kids who never watched a previous era, attempt to converse about it.

They don't know what they are watching. They have no valid reference point of viewing. (MJ)

[Mr Feeny]

Would he shit on his own team even harder when he quits on them in this era?if he's good enough to 3 peat as lead dog, he is entitled to retire and then come back and do it again. Ofcourse, your hero was never good enough to do that.

[Mr Feeny]

When you repeat 3 peat, it's an automatic free pass. :banana:

He is a Lebron fanboy. What would he know about 3 peating?

[bigkingsfan]

the fact that you dropped the J in Jordan, to imply that he didnt play defense
http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/mj-laughing.gif

[Mr Feeny]

http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/mj-laughing.gif

Tell me more about how Jordan couldn't shoot.

[andgar923]

If he wants to dominate usage and take teams to the lottery then yes he can avg 40pts. As long as it'll make you happy. Because making the fans happy is what it's all about in the end. :applause:
Harden almost averaged that and isn

[Hey Yo]

When you repeat 3 peat, it's an automatic free pass. :banana:
Only one 3peat. Quitting to rest up for 2yrs negates everything after 1993.

[Hey Yo]

Tell me more about how Jordan couldn't shoot.
Tells us more about how you putting the J back in Ordan's name means he played great defense.

[Mr Feeny]

Tells us more about how you putting the J back in Ordan's name means he played great defense.

Read it really quick. Your original point (if it was you who said it) is even worse.

Now tell me about how Jordan - of all people - couldn't shoot.

[Mr Feeny]

Only one 3peat. Quitting to rest up for 2yrs negates everything after 1993.

Nah. 3 peats are what put you in the goat discussion. Your idol was never good enough to do it. Unfortunately.

[Hey Yo]

Read it really quick. Your original point (if it was you who said it) is even worse.

Now tell me about how Jordan - of all people - couldn't shoot.
No, you're just really dumb.

[TheMan]

Someone already mentioned that Bran avgs almost 30 with a broken jumper, MJ easily avgs 40 in this no defense, wide open lanes to the rim cupcake era...

[Mr Feeny]

No, you're just really dumb.

Says a kid who is making the argument that Jordan couldnt shoot. The irony there.

[Mr Feeny]

Someone already mentioned that Bran avgs almost 30 with a broken jumper, MJ easily avgs 40 in this no defense, wide open lanes to the rim cupcake era...

Forget him. Harden averaged 36.2 ppg. James. Harden.
What would Jordan do? There is literally no defense being played.

[Hey Yo]

Says a kid who is making the argument that Jordan couldnt shoot. The irony there.
When did I say that? See, even more dumb shit from you.

[TheMan]

Says a kid who is making the argument that Jordan couldnt shoot. The irony there.
Bran stans have no leg to stand on accusing anyone of not having a wet jumper :lol Spurs put Boris Diaw on their mancrush, daring him to shoot :oldlol:

[Mr Feeny]

When did I say that? See, even more dumb shit from you.

Ah. The meltdown commences. Log onto your 7 alts and agree with yourself, now. As usual.

[Hey Yo]

Ah. The meltdown commences. Log onto your 7 alts and agree with yourself, now. As usual.
lol @ your 3 L's in a 5min span

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Mr Feeny]

lol @ your 3 L's in a 5min span

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Too. Easy.

[Overdrive]

I love how Feeny used to defend Lebron, but the abundance of Lebron knobsuckers made him defend Jordan.

[Mr Feeny]

I love how Feeny used to defend Lebron, but the abundance of Lebron knobsuckers made him defend Jordan.

Its not that. I still think and still argue that he's a top 3 player of all time. But when you have kids who didnt watch a second of the previous eras discussing basketball, it's silly. Having a child who started watching in 2012 tell you that his hero is the GOAT is risible. Especially when these "discussions" are by the same guy logging on to 9 alts to agree with himself.

[1987_Lakers]

Doesn't that imply that he didn't have a jumper? However, both versions are ridiculous. But since we know that 90% of the Lebron stans weren't even born when Jordan 3peated the second time we can't even blame them for their stupidity.

:oldlol:

[sdot_thadon]

Lebron is a terrible shooter and averages 27 for his career.

Allow Mike to stiff arm and travel and he's an easy 40PPG guy
Except they did, as a rookie


Jordan has even been accorded that most hallowed acknowledgment of NBA stardom: The refs are letting him travel.

[sdot_thadon]

But when you have kids who didnt watch a second of the previous eras discussing basketball, it's silly. Having a child who started watching in 2012 tell you that his hero is the GOAT is risible.
I completely understand being a troll vigilante. :D But I do have a serious thought from your post. Isn't the quoted section of your post what each and every one of us does as a basketball fan? I don't know your age but I doubt you were around to watch Wilt or Russell play and likely a small child if you were able to see Kareem. You guys are just bashing younger versions of yourselves.

[egokiller]

I love how Feeny used to defend Lebron, but the abundance of Lebron knobsuckers made him defend Jordan.

He read enough of 3balls posts to understand and learn the error of his former ways. One can do that when they have reading comprehension skills that Simon and many of the lebron fam on here do not have, hence the reason why they will never learn.

[egokiller]

I completely understand being a troll vigilante. :D But I do have a serious thought from your post. Isn't the quoted section of your post what each and every one of us does as a basketball fan? I don't know your age but I doubt you were around to watch Wilt or Russell play and likely a small child if you were able to see Kareem. You guys are just bashing younger versions of yourselves.

This has already been debunked a 1000 times over because when you set foot in any barber shop and start talking ball, all the 70+ year old guys in there that saw wilt, Russell, and everyone else all say MJ is the best they ever saw and is GOAT. It's good conversation because they bring up rule changes, size of the league differences, all kinds of shit but after it's all said and done and everything is taken into account, you don't see these guys behaving like lil fucc boys saying that Wilt Russell or Kareem was the best because that's who they saw during their HS years. The bias doesn't exist just like it doesn't exist with those who where in HS that saw MJ. Unanimous GOAT is unanimous GOAT, period. The guys who came before MJ say this. The guys that came during MJ say this. The guys that came during Kobe say this. See a pattern yet? :roll:

[Gus Hemmingway]

you can if you're toughest competition is craig ehlo and jeff hornacek

[egokiller]

you can if you're toughest competition is craig ehlo and jeff hornacek

What if it was JJ berea and Jason Terry?

[NBAGOAT]

arguing lebron scored 27 so jordan could score 40 is an absurd argument.

[TheMan]

arguing lebron scored 27 so jordan could score 40 is an absurd argument.
How so?

MJ could actually shoot the mid range, had an unstoppable back to the basket game and could slash his way to the rim as well as anyone could in the history of the game...

[TheMan]

you can if you're toughest competition is craig ehlo and jeff hornacek
He also faced elite defenders too like Sidney Moncreif, Dennis Johnson, Michael Cooper, Dennis Rodman, Reggie Lewis, Joe Dumars, Gary Payton, Dan Majerle, Derek Harper, Ron Harper, Nate McMillan, Vernon Maxwell, John Starks, Xavier McDaniel, Alvin Robertson etc

[NBAGOAT]

How so?

MJ could actually shoot the mid range, had an unstoppable back to the basket game and could slash his way to the rim as well as anyone could in the history of the game...

i agree mj is a better scorer than lebron. 13ppg is a comically large gap. For any great volume scorer not named mj, it's the difference between them and a role player essentially. I know you dont think the scoring gap is that big.

Lebron's jumper wasnt really that broken during the rs by like 12-13 too besides 16. You could bring up giannis but he's kind of a big, you cant really compare him to jordan.

Other problem is that other perimeter guys are getting similar jumps if it's just an era thing that honestly sound ridiculous. I say jordan could do it one or two years possibly but most here seem to believe jordan could be putting 40ppg every year of his prime.

Here are other jumps you could see from guards/wings if you think era helps jordan that much and I like to see you argue for all of them.

Dominique scores 35+ pretty much his whole prime and threatens 40 a year or two (a great slasher with a back to basket game too granted worse than mj). Mullin averages 30-35(his shooting would fit even better in this era according to many arguments i've heard). Richmond averages 30 for his prime too. Joe Dumars has a 30ppg season. Tim Hardaway has multiple 30/12 seasons. Hersey Hawkins averages 25+ for a 3 year stretch.

[superduper]

He also faced elite defenders too like Sidney Moncreif, Dennis Johnson, Michael Cooper, Dennis Rodman, Reggie Lewis, Joe Dumars, Gary Payton, Dan Majerle, Derek Harper, Ron Harper, Nate McMillan, Vernon Maxwell, John Starks, Xavier McDaniel, Alvin Robertson etc

Boom.

[Manny98]

He also faced elite defenders too like Sidney Moncreif, Dennis Johnson, Michael Cooper, Dennis Rodman, Reggie Lewis, Joe Dumars, Gary Payton, Dan Majerle, Derek Harper, Ron Harper, Nate McMillan, Vernon Maxwell, John Starks, Xavier McDaniel, Alvin Robertson etc
John Starks was a grocery bagger nuff said :roll:

[andgar923]

John Starks was a grocery bagger nuff said :roll:
And that takes away from him being a good player how?

[Phoenix]

And that takes away from him being a good player how?

I was wondering the same.

[Hey Yo]

And that takes away from him being a good player how?
That dude called Starks an "elite defender." I'd say calling Starks elite is a slight exaggeration on his part, no?

Plus Michael Copper was retired by 1991 and didn't even face MJ in the Finals.

Derek Harper was well past elite defense by the time he got to the NYK

Xavier McDaniel an elite defender??:oldlol:

[SamuraiSWISH]

Prime Air Jordan ('88-'93) in '87 - '89 type team context could average 45 ppg in THIS league easy. Twilight prime Fadeaway Jordan ('96-'98) could average 35 ppg in THIS league.

[sdot_thadon]

This has already been debunked a 1000 times over because when you set foot in any barber shop and start talking ball, all the 70+ year old guys in there that saw wilt, Russell, and everyone else all say MJ is the best they ever saw and is GOAT. It's good conversation because they bring up rule changes, size of the league differences, all kinds of shit but after it's all said and done and everything is taken into account, you don't see these guys behaving like lil fucc boys saying that Wilt Russell or Kareem was the best because that's who they saw during their HS years. The bias doesn't exist just like it doesn't exist with those who where in HS that saw MJ. Unanimous GOAT is unanimous GOAT, period. The guys who came before MJ say this. The guys that came during MJ say this. The guys that came during Kobe say this. See a pattern yet? :roll:
The exact level of post I could expect from a person with your level of intellectual dishonesty. "I'll use the small sample size of a few people from a place i go as truth." I've talked to plenty of old heads myself and have gotten a wide range of thoughts back. But to think anything like this can be "debunked" exposes your outdated thought process.

Goat is subjective aka an opinion. Can't really be proven right or wrong as long as its feasible. Stick to proving facts like actual accolades or statistical measures, because trying to dismiss anyone's opinion with the you didn't see him play criteria doesn't just eliminate their thoughts. It eliminates yours. Not even up for discussion. #Facts

[72-10]

Mike easily gets 40 today even if you warp him light speed in a time machine without the benefit of 20 years to practice the three or growing up practicing vs the three.

[72-10]

Now what if they ran the offense through him

[72-10]

That dude called Starks an "elite defender." I'd say calling Starks elite is a slight exaggeration on his part, no?

Plus Michael Copper was retired by 1991 and didn't even face MJ in the Finals.

Derek Harper was well past elite defense by the time he got to the NYK

Xavier McDaniel an elite defender??:oldlol:

The Lakers guarded MJ

[RRR3]

Prime Air Jordan ('88-'93) in '87 - '89 type team context could average 45 ppg in THIS league easy. Twilight prime Fadeaway Jordan ('96-'98) could average 35 ppg in THIS league.
45 PPG easily? How many shots is he taking, Coach?

[sdot_thadon]

The whole "easily" thing is an insult to the game tbh. If by easily we mean on a team going nowhere fast? Sure Easily.

[egokiller]

The exact level of post I could expect from a person with your level of intellectual dishonesty. "I'll use the small sample size of a few people from a place i go as truth." I've talked to plenty of old heads myself and have gotten a wide range of thoughts back. But to think anything like this can be "debunked" exposes your outdated thought process.

Goat is subjective aka an opinion. Can't really be proven right or wrong as long as its feasible. Stick to proving facts like actual accolades or statistical measures, because trying to dismiss anyone's opinion with the you didn't see him play criteria doesn't just eliminate their thoughts. It eliminates yours. Not even up for discussion. #Facts

You may have a point if what I witnessed occurred in just one setting in just one barbershop, but the fact that it has occurred in 5 different locations is just too much of a coincidence. I

[egokiller]

The whole "easily" thing is an insult to the game tbh. If by easily we mean on a team going nowhere fast? Sure Easily.

No, it

[egokiller]

Prime Air Jordan ('88-'93) in '87 - '89 type team context could average 45 ppg in THIS league easy. Twilight prime Fadeaway Jordan ('96-'98) could average 35 ppg in THIS league.

It

[FKAri]

[QUOTE=andgar923]Harden almost averaged that and isn

[sdot_thadon]

[QUOTE=egokiller]No, it