View Full Version : If the 16/6/5 Pippen had no rings, he'd be Jimmy Butler, actually worse based on stat
3ball
06-28-2019, 10:43 AM
But similar to Pau Gasol, Pippen's name was elevated by being associated with championships
And I know lebron fam will say MJ wasn't shit without Pippen, but we're talking #1 options here - MJ needed a baseline level of help to win like all #1 options
TheCorporation
06-28-2019, 10:45 AM
How many top 5 MVP votes has Jimmy Butler gotten? And how many teams has he led to 55 wins?
Thanks
3ball
06-28-2019, 10:59 AM
How many top 5 MVP votes has Jimmy Butler gotten? And how many teams has he led to 55 wins?
Thanks
How much 3-peat system and teamwork developed over many years did he have?
Thanks
it's a testament to the bulls' teamwork and system that they could win with just 22 ppg from Pottie - 22 ppg is nothing for Butler and his stats destroy poppin's in 94'
TheCorporation
06-28-2019, 11:01 AM
How much 3-peat system and teamwork developed over many years did he have?
Thanks
it's a testament to the bulls' teamwork and system that they could win with just 22 ppg from Pottie - 22 ppg is nothing for Butler and his stats destroy poppin's in 94'
Yawn
So how many?
3ball
06-28-2019, 11:02 AM
Yawn
So how many?
Yawn
So how much
TheCorporation
06-28-2019, 11:02 AM
Yawn
So how much
How many top 5 MVP votes has Jimmy Butler gotten? And how many teams has he led to 55 wins?
Thanks
MJ literally had 4 all stars on his team (Pippen, Grant, Cartwright and Armstrong) for his first 3 rings and 3ball tries to act like he had no help.
TheCorporation
06-28-2019, 11:04 AM
MJ literally had 4 all stars on his team (Pippen, Grant, Cartwright and Armstrong) for his first 3 rings and 3ball tries to act like he had no help.
And he played with an All Defensive player for 8 years
LeBron did for...ONE year
2ez
ronniec
06-28-2019, 11:15 AM
IF...
My interpretation is, Michael Jordan had a Jimmy Butler level player and won 6 rings... Pippen was lucky on that Championship Bull's boat?
Is this thread a compliment to Jordan?
1987_Lakers
06-28-2019, 11:18 AM
1998 Bulls...
SRS without Scottie: 4.77 (35 games)
SRS after Scottie returned: 9.08
difference = 4.31
And we all know how well the Bulls looked without MJ in '94.
3ball
06-28-2019, 11:45 AM
MJ literally had 4 all stars on his team (Pippen, Grant, Cartwright and Armstrong) for his first 3 rings and 3ball tries to act like he had no help.
Pip/Grant/Armstrong/Cartwright = 11 all-star games
Shaq/Jamison/Mo/Zydrunas = 20 all-star games
Wade/Bosh/Allen = 34 all-star games
Kyrie/Love/Korver/Deron/Mo/Rose/Wade = 33 all-star games
TheCorporation
06-28-2019, 12:22 PM
And he played with an All Defensive player for 8 years
LeBron did for...ONE year
2ez
3ball?
Slayed again?
ArbitraryWater
06-28-2019, 01:39 PM
16/6/5?
Sounds like...
I dunno, Clarkson?
Rodney Hood?
Basically the same player, no?
72-10
06-28-2019, 01:46 PM
to suggest that Pippen's defense was only as impactful as that of Butler is insulting, but to suggest that Pippen's raw offensive game always had game-changing impact would be wrong as well.
72-10
06-28-2019, 01:48 PM
1998 Bulls...
SRS without Scottie: 4.77 (35 games)
SRS after Scottie returned: 9.08
difference = 4.31
And we all know how well the Bulls looked without MJ in '94.
That's Pippen's best year. There's not a lot else like it from the Bull run.
Pip/Grant/Armstrong/Cartwright = 11 all-star games
Shaq/Jamison/Mo/Zydrunas = 20 all-star games
Wade/Bosh/Allen = 34 all-star games
Kyrie/Love/Korver/Deron/Mo/Rose/Wade = 33 all-star games
LeBron LeBron LeBron.
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