Why can't LeBron win without two stars beside him?

[stalkerforlife]

Kobe did it with one.

Kawhi arguably did it with none.

Dirk did it with none.

Curry did it with one.

Hakeem did it with zero and then one.

MJ did it with one.

Bird did it with one.

Etc.

Real all time greats can win titles with zero or one star next to them.

[bullettooth]

Because LeBron is just not that good.

[1987_Lakers]

2016 NBA Finals: Kevin Love - 9/7 on 36% shooting
2013 NBA Finals: Chris Bosh - 12/9 on 46% shooting

[GimmeThat]

then there wouldn't be rivalries between players

[CurryOverLebron]

He gets exposed even worse with just 1 star

2004 - missed playoffs with Carlos Boozer and Zydrunas Ilgauskas
2005 - missed playoffs with Zydrunas Ilgauskas
2007 - swept with Larry Hughes and Zydrunas Ilgauskas
2009 - lost with Mo Williams and Zydrunas Ilgauskas
2010 - lost with Mo Williams, Shaquille O'Neal, Antwan Jamison and Zydrunas Ilgauskas
2015 - swept with Kevin Love

[stalkerforlife]

2016 NBA Finals: Kevin Love - 9/7 on 36% shooting
2013 NBA Finals: Chris Bosh - 12/9 on 46% shooting

Due to Bran ball.

He needs third stars for a security blanket for his fragile mentality.

Bosh is one of the greatest pick and roll defending bigs ever.

Way to marginalize them; par for course for a Bransvestite.

[SpaceJam]

0 All-Stars in 2016

[SamuraiSWISH]

Because LeBron is just not that good.
Basically. I mean he

[Gus Hemmingway]

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]Basically. I mean he

[jstern]

You need more stars to compensate for Lebron ball. Lebron ball doesn't scale up the way you would imagine when you add more talent, because the talent has to sacrifice their style of play to play in the Lebron system. So one has to stack the deck.

For example, on paper Lebron + Wade + Bosh = a talent level of 77 win per season and not one or two, but eight titles in a row. But in practice the other superstars don't get to play at their full potential. You're only getting a fraction of their talent.

It doesn't scale properly.

It also helps playing in a very weak East. It gives the Lebron led teams with multiple stars get to the Finals and be put in a position of getting a couple of lucky bounces here and there, and escape with a couple extra rings.

Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good, but you can't always depend on luck to win every year. And that perfectly sums up the result of Lebron ball + multiple stars.

[stalkerforlife]

You need more stars to compensate for Lebron ball. Lebron ball doesn't scale up the way you would imagine when you add more talent, because the talent has to sacrifice their style of play to play in the Lebron system. So one has to stack the deck.

For example, on paper Lebron + Wade + Bosh = a talent level of 77 win per season and not one or two, but eight titles in a row. But in practice the other superstars don't get to play at their full potential. You're only getting a fraction of their talent.

It doesn't scale properly.

It also helps playing in a very weak East. It gives the Lebron led teams with multiple stars get to the Finals and be put in a position of getting a couple of lucky bounces here and there, and escape with a couple extra rings.

Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good, but you can't always depend on luck to win every year. And that perfectly sums up the result of Lebron ball + multiple stars.

:applause:

[Jay-B]

Is Kevin Love really a

[ArbitraryWater]

Due to Bran ball.

He needs third stars for a security blanket for his fragile mentality.

Bosh is one of the greatest pick and roll defending bigs ever.

Way to marginalize them; par for course for a Bransvestite.

so they actually didnt have star impact?


he won with 1 star?

cool thx


love in 2016 barely played, bosh didnt play 12 ecsf+ecf :bowdown:

[Andrei89]

He gets exposed even worse with just 1 star

2004 - missed playoffs with Carlos Boozer and Zydrunas Ilgauskas
2005 - missed playoffs with Zydrunas Ilgauskas
2007 - swept with Larry Hughes and Zydrunas Ilgauskas
2009 - lost with Mo Williams and Zydrunas Ilgauskas
2010 - lost with Mo Williams, Shaquille O'Neal, Antwan Jamison and Zydrunas Ilgauskas
2015 - swept with Kevin Love

Swept with K Love? The Cavs won 2 games retard:lol

[Uncle Drew]

Because LeBron is just not that good.
If he wasn't you would have 0 posts in this place.

[Uncle Drew]

Swept with K Love? The Cavs won 2 games retard:lol
Kevin Love played 0 seconds in that series too.

[egokiller]

It's already been proven that LeBron can't win without a superstar on his team (Wade) unless it's against an injured team that has a starter suspended for the close out game 5. :applause:

[sdot_thadon]

Kobe did it with one.

Kawhi arguably did it with none.

Dirk did it with none.

Curry did it with one.

Hakeem did it with zero and then one.

MJ did it with one.

Bird did it with one.

Etc.

Real all time greats can win titles with zero or one star next to them.
Why can't Op's brain function properly?

Kobe did it with another top 10 player EVER. Not to mention the goat coach perhaps. And his last with not only a star but also a dpoy/all defense team 3rd wheel.

Kawhi arguably did it with a low key stacked squad. And allstar running mate, the 2019 MIP which is usually the precursor for an allstar appearance. A former dpoy/allstar. Oh and basically a supporting cast that made the conference finals without him and Gasol/green already. Gets to face an injured squad for the chip. Great fortune don't ya think?

Dirk did it with no star teammates, that much I agree. But he did have a pretty solid team around him. HOF pg, dpoy/all defende bigman, former allstar defensive wing, and former 6moy 2nd option. That Mavs team was just tough.

Curry did it with one?:oldlol: no comment needed.

Hakeem did it with zero and then one, only the 2nd true statement in your post. And even then dream had a tough squad himself. Hell OT even made the allstar team 2 seasons prior to their title.

MJ did it with one and an all defensive 3rd option. Goat coach. 2nd 3peat? same but replace grant with the greatest rebounder to live and one of the greatest defenders ever. 2 Hof players.

Bird did it with 2 allstars each time. plus a former fmvp, plus a former Mvp off the bench.

[egokiller]

Why can't Op's brain function properly?

Kobe did it with another top 10 player EVER. Not to mention the goat coach perhaps. And his last with not only a star but also a dpoy/all defense team 3rd wheel.

Kawhi arguably did it with a low key stacked squad. And allstar running mate, the 2019 MIP which is usually the precursor for an allstar appearance. A former dpoy/allstar. Oh and basically a supporting cast that made the conference finals without him and Gasol/green already. Gets to face an injured squad for the chip. Great fortune don't ya think?

Dirk did it with no star teammates, that much I agree. But he did have a pretty solid team around him. HOF pg, dpoy/all defende bigman, former allstar defensive wing, and former 6moy 2nd option. That Mavs team was just tough.

Curry did it with one?:oldlol: no comment needed.

Hakeem did it with zero and then one, only the 2nd true statement in your post. And even then dream had a tough squad himself. Hell OT even made the allstar team 2 seasons prior to their title.

MJ did it with one and an all defensive 3rd option. Goat coach. 2nd 3peat? same but replace grant with the greatest rebounder to live and one of the greatest defenders ever. 2 Hof players.

Bird did it with 2 allstars each time. plus a former fmvp, plus a former Mvp off the bench.

You're basically saying "for the most part you are right on MJ, Hakeem, Dirk and Kawhi.......but those team were tough"

:lol

[SpaceJam2]

2016 NBA Finals: Kevin Love - 9/7 on 36% shooting
2013 NBA Finals: Chris Bosh - 12/9 on 46% shooting


Well that ended quickly

[stalkerforlife]

Why can't Op's brain function properly?

Kobe did it with another top 10 player EVER. Not to mention the goat coach perhaps. And his last with not only a star but also a dpoy/all defense team 3rd wheel.

Kawhi arguably did it with a low key stacked squad. And allstar running mate, the 2019 MIP which is usually the precursor for an allstar appearance. A former dpoy/allstar. Oh and basically a supporting cast that made the conference finals without him and Gasol/green already. Gets to face an injured squad for the chip. Great fortune don't ya think?

Dirk did it with no star teammates, that much I agree. But he did have a pretty solid team around him. HOF pg, dpoy/all defende bigman, former allstar defensive wing, and former 6moy 2nd option. That Mavs team was just tough.

Curry did it with one?:oldlol: no comment needed.

Hakeem did it with zero and then one, only the 2nd true statement in your post. And even then dream had a tough squad himself. Hell OT even made the allstar team 2 seasons prior to their title.

MJ did it with one and an all defensive 3rd option. Goat coach. 2nd 3peat? same but replace grant with the greatest rebounder to live and one of the greatest defenders ever. 2 Hof players.

Bird did it with 2 allstars each time. plus a former fmvp, plus a former Mvp off the bench.

Truth seems to trigger you

Thanks for the essay.

[sdot_thadon]

Truth seems to trigger you

Thanks for the essay.
Nah bro the truth is actually my thing, and that "essay" ? I wouldn't be the one to even think of mentioning length of any post when you have so many empty ones yourself. How bout you start making them count?


You're basically saying "for the most part you are right on MJ, Hakeem, Dirk and Kawhi.......but those team were tough" no, i actually didn't. Reading comprehension surely isn't a strong point for you.

[Vino24]

Kyrie isn

[stalkerforlife]

Nah bro the truth is actually my thing, and that "essay" ? I wouldn't be the one to even think of mentioning length of any post when you have so many empty ones yourself. How bout you start making them count?

no, i actually didn't. Reading comprehension surely isn't a strong point for you.

LeUpset.

[StrongLurk]

According to OP, Bran turns stars into role players.

So really, Lebron has NEVER had all star help according to OP.

[stalkerforlife]

According to OP, Bran turns stars into role players.

So really, Lebron has NEVER had all star help according to OP.

In a way, you're right.

The multiple stars are there for his fragile mentality, though.

He utilizes them when he needs them.

Stifles their stats during meaningless times.

[Gus Hemmingway]

In a way, you're right.

The multiple stars are there for his fragile mentality, though.

He utilizes them when he needs them.

Stifles their stats during meaningless times.


So the 2016 Finals wasn

[StrongLurk]

In a way, you're right.

The multiple stars are there for his fragile mentality, though.

He utilizes them when he needs them.

Stifles their stats during meaningless times.

Well, if you have your answer then why are you making a thread.

[stalkerforlife]

Well, if you have your answer then why are you making a thread.

You think Jeff pays me for nothing?

[stalkerforlife]

[QUOTE=Gus Hemmingway]So the 2016 Finals wasn

[BallsOut]

Because LeBron is just not that good.

And because he's a coward. He knows deep down inside his heart that he can't win without another two stars on his team.