View Full Version : Biggest elevations, LeBron to Kyrie, LeBron to Love, etc.
SpaceJam2
06-30-2019, 01:33 PM
Who had the biggest elevating power among prior career losers (Kyrie, Bosh, Jordan, Love)?
Before LeBron helped Kyrie and Love they both had zero playoff series wins and zero playoff GAME wins. The same can be said for Chris Bosh before joining LeBron (also 0 playoff series wins).
The LeBron elevation:
Love = 6 years with 0 playoff game wins
Kyrie = 3 years with 0 playoff game wins
Bosh = 7 years with 3 playoff game wins
The Pippen elevation:
Jordan = 3 years with 1 playoff game win
Who else can we add to the list?
Gus Hemmingway
06-30-2019, 01:36 PM
Meanwhile Pippen won more playoff games without MJ than the other way around :eek:
SpaceJam2
06-30-2019, 01:39 PM
Meanwhile Pippen won more playoff games without MJ than the other way around :eek:
Very similar carry jobs between Pippen and LeBron if you think about it
The LeBron elevation:
Kyrie = 3 years with 0 playoff game wins
The Pippen elevation:
Jordan = 3 years with 1 playoff game win
ImKobe
06-30-2019, 01:58 PM
Kyrie was in a rebuilding situation in Cleveland and Love played out West, where James himself failed to make the Playoffs last season.
James without Irving, Bosh & Love = swept in the Finals and missed Playoffs 3x
Lebron couldn't even make the Finals on 60-win teams before joining up with a Dwyane Wade that had already carried a team to a championship.
paksat
06-30-2019, 03:06 PM
2004 - missed playoffs
2005 - missed playoffs despite the East all-star center on his team
2006 - 2nd round elimination
2007 - 2-seeded Cavs beat 1-seeded Pistons to make Finals (lebron averaged 21 on 41% outside of game 5; 25 on 45% overall)..... then 22 on 36% in Finals sweep loss
2008 - 26 on 35% in ecsf loss
2009 - loses with 60-win 1 seed
2010 - loses with 60-win 1 seed (record - no one ever lost with 60-win 1 seed for two straight yrs)
Then said "fck this, I can't handle being such a loser" and teamed up with the #2 and #4 players in PER aka the best small forward and shooting guard in the league
SpaceJam2
06-30-2019, 06:11 PM
Very similar carry jobs between Pippen and LeBron if you think about it
The LeBron elevation:
Kyrie = 3 years with 0 playoff game wins
The Pippen elevation:
Jordan = 3 years with 1 playoff game win
Anyone available for comment?
paksat
06-30-2019, 06:25 PM
Anyone available for comment?
2004 - missed playoffs
2005 - missed playoffs despite the East all-star center on his team
2006 - 2nd round elimination
2007 - 2-seeded Cavs beat 1-seeded Pistons to make Finals (lebron averaged 21 on 41% outside of game 5; 25 on 45% overall)..... then 22 on 36% in Finals sweep loss
2008 - 26 on 35% in ecsf loss
2009 - loses with 60-win 1 seed
2010 - loses with 60-win 1 seed (record - no one ever lost with 60-win 1 seed for two straight yrs)
Then said "fck this, I can't handle being such a loser" and teamed up with the #2 and #4 players in PER aka the best forward and shooting guard in the league
SpaceJam2
06-30-2019, 07:43 PM
2004 - missed playoffs
2005 - missed playoffs despite the East all-star center on his team
2006 - 2nd round elimination
2007 - 2-seeded Cavs beat 1-seeded Pistons to make Finals (lebron averaged 21 on 41% outside of game 5; 25 on 45% overall)..... then 22 on 36% in Finals sweep loss
2008 - 26 on 35% in ecsf loss
2009 - loses with 60-win 1 seed
2010 - loses with 60-win 1 seed (record - no one ever lost with 60-win 1 seed for two straight yrs)
Then said "fck this, I can't handle being such a loser" and teamed up with the #2 and #4 players in PER aka the best forward and shooting guard in the league
1-9 before Pippen
egokiller
06-30-2019, 08:04 PM
1-9 before Pippen
Negated by the fact that he molded Pippen.
Lebron didn't want to win as much so he never started a breakfast club of his own.
3/9
SpaceJam2
06-30-2019, 08:18 PM
Negated by the fact that he molded Pippen.
Lebron didn't want to win as much so he never started a breakfast club of his own.
3/9
Wrong bro
Pippen molded a 1-9 literal career loser
egokiller
06-30-2019, 08:26 PM
Jason Terry
SpaceJam2
06-30-2019, 08:32 PM
Jason Terry
Detroit Pistons :lol
paksat
06-30-2019, 08:46 PM
Detroit Pistons :lol
8 points
egokiller
06-30-2019, 08:53 PM
DaReal Lambo
TheCorporation
07-07-2019, 12:16 PM
Very similar carry jobs between Pippen and LeBron if you think about it
The LeBron elevation:
Kyrie = 3 years with 0 playoff game wins
The Pippen elevation:
Jordan = 3 years with 1 playoff game win
:eek:
3ball
07-07-2019, 12:39 PM
1-9 before Pippen
1-9 occurred in the 8 vs 1 matchup, whereas most first and second year players miss the playoffs, like Lebron, Curry, Durant, Giannis, Kyrie, and most other lottery picks
Obviously, if these lottery teams had made playoffs as the 8 vs 1 seed instead of missing, they'd be swept too. Teams that get swept in the 1st Round > teams that missed playoffs, so MJ's first few years > all those guys listed previously that missed playoffs
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Shogon
07-07-2019, 01:22 PM
DaReal Lambo
James Jordan.
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