Official: Al Horford to 76ers for 4 years 104 mill

[FireDavidKahn]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145499428398215168

100% made this move so Embiid wont have to play against him in the play offs:bowdown: :applause:

[LukeWalton]

per WOJ and POJ

[Im so nba'd out]

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[bigkingsfan]

Marc Gasol opted in :roll:

[Shogon]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:


Wow, the Harris signing was bullshit in terms of over-payment, but this move may very well get Philadelphia out of the East next year. Horford is on the way down, but still...

[Meticode]

Embiid
Horford
Harris
??????
Simmons

??????? = Josh Richardson

[tontoz]

Wow. Didn't see that coming.

[FireDavidKahn]

Embiid
Horford
Harris
??????
Simmons
Josh Richardson.

[LukeWalton]

76ers still in contention! if Kawaii leaves, then next year might be the only year they can win the East while KD recopuoersaras

[Meticode]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:


Wow, the Harris signing was bullshit in terms of over-payment, but this move may very well get Philadelphia out of the East next year. Horford is on the way down, but still...
I think they're worse myself right now as it stands losing Reddick and Butler. The league is built on guard player and shooting right now. They have a huge question mark at SG I think...

EDIT: Nevermind, I didnt' see that Josh Richardson was a sign and trade in the Butler deal.

[Doranku]

The 76ers are huge lol

Simmons - 6'10
Harris - 6'9
Horford - 6'10
Embiid - 7'0

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

Embiid
Horford
Harris
??????
SimmonsJosh Richardson.
Long, huge ass lineup lol.

[FireDavidKahn]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-WjqhHU0AAUlxL.jpg:large

[Embers]

What a terrible move. This will be the slowest team of all time.

[red1]

horford is gonna decline soon he's been in the league for a long time has to be in his mid 30's.


sixers really going all-in must also sense how weak the league is next year.

[DMAVS41]

Still going to need to find some guard play, but turning Butler/JJ into Horford/Richardson is damn good.

I mean, it is an all-in move, but they already were and if there is anything consistent in this league it is that things change quickly...might as well really go for it the next 3 years and see what happens.

But, they need guard play and more shooting....and Tobias is going to need to work his ass off on defense or there will be major problems.

[CelticBaller]

Horford is on the decline but he still a solid defender


**** him though

[red1]

sixers got worse IMO butler and redick were both important for their playoff success.


losing butler is a huge loss IMO.

[Embers]

Still going to need to find some guard play, but turning Butler/JJ into Horford/Richardson is damn good.

It's a downgrade on chemistry for sure. The team will be so easy to defend against. Pack the paint and let Harris and J Rich toss 3s if you are the opposition

[Meticode]

Long, huge ass lineup lol.
If Embiid can stay out there.

[Wally450]

Horford is the best player on that team.

[DMAVS41]

It's a downgrade on chemistry for sure. The team will be so easy to defend against. Pack the paint and let Harris and J Rich toss 3s if you are the opposition

What?

You absolutely do not want to let Harris and Richardson shoot open 3's...

But, yes...the lack of wing defense and guard play are problems for sure.

But your strategy is terrible...Harris/Richardson shoot well and would be over the EV of what the opposition would want.

[Wally450]

Embiid so happy he doesn't have to go up against Al now. :lol

[Embers]

What?

You absolutely do not want to let Harris and Richardson shoot open 3's...

But, yes...the lack of wing defense and guard play are problems for sure.

But your strategy is terrible...Harris/Richardson shoot well and would be over the EV of what the opposition would want.

Embiid is the weapon, not Josh Richardson catch and shoot. They can't move the ball back to Embiid, in this line up he is almost like a decoy. Why have the best offensive C in NBA history and essentially force the ball out of his hand with the team you build around him?

[solar.hands]

Is this the second time a father, big Al, and son, Joel, played on the same team after Lebron and Delonte?

[DMAVS41]

Embiid is the weapon, not Josh Richardson catch and shoot. They can't move the ball back to Embiid, in this line up he is almost like a decoy. Why have the best offensive C in NBA history and essentially force the ball out of his hand with the team you build around him?

I don't know what you want someone to say...this team is not ideal...I don't think I've seen anyone argue that.

However, your take that other teams will be good with Harris/Richardson bombing open 3's is just not accurate.

That doesn't mean there are no problems, but if the strategy against the Sixers is to give up open looks to those two guys...it won't work.

[CelticBaller]

Embiid is the weapon, not Josh Richardson catch and shoot. They can't move the ball back to Embiid, in this line up he is almost like a decoy. Why have the best offensive C in NBA history and essentially force the ball out of his hand with the team you build around him?
you're a dumbass :roll:

[Im so nba'd out]

god if we could just move ben simmons......it would just be (looks up dreamingly)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOBD6tiItvY

[Vino24]

Interesting team but Sixers are hurting for shooters :oldlol:

[ReturnofJPR]

Sixers are going in the other direction of most teams in the league who prefer a fast paced style of play. Certainly, speed and transition buckets won’t be their strong suit. I’ve never like Horford. He came out of a Florida with Joakim Noah. And while Noah had all the balls and leadership qualities, Horford has always proven to be soft and fails to make shots in the biggest of moments. He was the Atlanta Hawks’ franchise player for an entire decade. Let that sink in. Then he went to Boston where he certainly didn’t get any better. He’s 13 or 14 years into his NBA career and the 76ers paid him over $25 mil per for 4 more seasons! Geez they’re going to regret that down the line. That’s big time money for a 13 and 6 player. Don’t expect Horford’s rebounding numbers to go up playing next to Joel and Simmons either. Looks like the 76ers made some desperate moves and have a couple of new, expensive, contracts they will regret in 2 years.

[fourkicks44]

Horford is old but this is a smart move TBH.

The Sixers f(cked up by playing Embiid so much in the first half of the regular season. By playoffs he was cooked.

First hand they saw how Kawhi rested when ever he wanted and by playoffs he was fresh and in peak form.

Horfod signing means Joel can sit as much as need. Plus we are looking at the potentially best defensive team in the NBA now. Switch on ANYTHING. That length doe.....

Horford can age gracefully now. Benificial for both parties.




Horford is on the decline but he still a solid defender


**** him though

And the funniest part is Horford left Boston for Philadelphia.

You are mad and it is funny af :roll:

[DMAVS41]

Damn, when you really evaluate the East...

Could this last year have gone worse for the Celtics?

They didn't move Kyrie when it was obvious they should have...he walks for nothing to a team that will be better...and then they lose Horford to their biggest in-conference rivals.

Ouch...

[Vino24]

Damn, when you really evaluate the East...

Could this last year have gone worse for the Celtics?

They didn't move Kyrie when it was obvious they should have...he walks for nothing to a team that will be better...and then they lose Horford to their biggest in-conference rivals.

Ouch...
Got Kemba. Celtics will thrive

[Manny98]

Got Kemba. Celtics will thrive
:roll:

[nashwade]

Butler to Horford is a serious downgrade.. 76ers is regressing

[GOBB]

4 years? What was brand thinking

[chains5000]

4 years? What was brand thinking
Win now.
Celtics get worse, Sixers get a player who can help stopping Giannis and, IF Leonard leaves Toronto, it could get them to the Finals.

It's more or less the same thing the Raptors did, risk it all for a title, even if it means mediocrity for a long time.

[GOBB]

Win now.
Celtics get worse, Sixers get a player who can help stopping Giannis and, IF Leonard leaves Toronto, it could get them to the Finals.

It's more or less the same thing the Raptors did, risk it all for a title, even if it means mediocrity for a long time.

That

[step_back]

I don't think this move is all that great. They need 3 point shooters especially with Joel and Simmons doing the majority of their work in the paint. Horford can knock down a 3 but he's not a wing guy coming off screens which is what they really need. They should have targeted guys like Malcolm Brogdon, Bogdanovic, Eric Gordon.

The guy is also going to be turning 34 in the finals next year if the 76's get there.

[GOBB]

I don't think this move is all that great. They need 3 point shooters especially with Joel and Simmons doing the majority of their work in the paint. Horford can knock down a 3 but he's not a wing guy coming off screens which is what they really need. They should have targeted guys like Malcolm Brogdon and Bogdanovic.

The guy is also going to be turning 34 in the finals next year if the 76's get there.

Malcom cost $21mil per plus a first round pick. Bojan while he is a sharpshooter is a bad defender. We would

[step_back]

[QUOTE=GOBB]Malcom cost $21mil per plus a first round pick. Bojan while he is a sharpshooter is a bad defender. We would

[chains5000]

[QUOTE=GOBB]That

[CelticBaller]

Damn, when you really evaluate the East...

Could this last year have gone worse for the Celtics?

They didn't move Kyrie when it was obvious they should have...he walks for nothing to a team that will be better...and then they lose Horford to their biggest in-conference rivals.

Ouch...
That Horford contract will be CP3 level of bad. Thank god we didn

[dbugz]

make sense

-Embiid don't need to worry anymore about him facing Horford in the playoffs :oldlol:

-Embiid has stamina issue, they can just place Al in the 5 and manage the load of Embiid


They need a good PG though who has outside shooting ala Drajic though cap wise that ain't possible. They can't just rely on simmons at 1 because that's a liability on offense come playoffs time.

[GOBB]

Those are other options available now but the 76's could have also spent that money on improving the bench or kept the space for the next few years. Why they think they have to be in a win now mode when your two franchise players are 22 and 25 is beyond me. Philly just made sure that they won't be able to go after any significant pieces for the next 4/5 years. If you think Horford can be the player he is now at 34,35,36 and 37 then good luck to you. Personally I don't see it happening.

Let me clarify i think Brogdon wouldn

[GOBB]

I guess as a hinkie supporter I have to come to grips that today

[DMAVS41]

[QUOTE=GOBB]I guess as a hinkie supporter I have to come to grips that today

[Derka]

Horford sliding back to the four will be a good thing for him.

I think Philly's going to hate the back end of this contract but if they can get some guards on the cheap this summer, they may have a shot should Kawhi choose to leave the East. But these next two years are their window...again, should Kawhi jump back to the West.

[GOBB]

History has shown, especially recent history, that when a team has enough to contend...they should go for it...because the league changes so fast.

I get that being the norm just don

[DMAVS41]

[QUOTE=GOBB]I get that being the norm just don

[Jasper]

he can slide to 5 , but I actually think this makes this team less effective than the 2018/19 season.

He might just camp out at the 3 point line.

[GimmeThat]

another team out to prove the usefulness of Pete Myers

[thefatmiral]

Who are the Celtics keeping? Why are they blowing it up ?

[Derka]

Who are the Celtics keeping? Why are they blowing it up ?
From last season: Hayward, Smart, Tatum, Brown, Yabusele, Williams, Ojeleye.

They didn't blow it up on purpose; Horford and Kyrie chose to leave. The Celtics made a four year offer to Horford but he took Philly's because it was more money.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Who are the Celtics keeping? Why are they blowing it up ?The rebuild isn't intentional but Irving wanted out and Horford wanted more money than the celtics wanted to pay. I don't blame anyone (especially not Horford, 100 mil is a lot of money to be offered at his age, great grandkids now set for life). But it's not a complete blow up, they still have the three wings and Smart, and the duo of Kanter and Walker is about as good a job of replacing guys as could be done with free agency, even though the defense is going to be worse.

[CelticBaller]

That Horford contract will be CP3 level of bad. Thank god we didn

Making the CP3 contract look good lol

Btw where are all the 76ers fans at? Bunch of these clowns are nowhere to be seen

[NBAGOAT]

like other people, I underestimated how disastrous the fit would be. Now philly's looking to offload him and multiple picks for someone not even that good like Hield

[E_Stamkos]

Horford sliding back to the four will be a good thing for him.

I think Philly's going to hate the back end of this contract but if they can get some guards on the cheap this summer, they may have a shot should Kawhi choose to leave the East. But these next two years are their window...again, should Kawhi jump back to the West.

From the looks of it, they're hating the front end as well

[AirBonner]

76ers just wasted Embiid’s prime with this horford signing

[coin24]

Sixers are done.

Time to trade either embiid or simmons (both immature betas tbh I honestly dont know which one is better to keep)
Get rid of Brett Brown hes useless

Pray someone wants Harris or Horford. Yikes. TURRIBLE contracts

[Manny98]

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[Derka]

From the looks of it, they're hating the front end as well

I'll say. Seems like Al and Joel can't be on the floor together and that can't possibly be what they envisioned with this signing. Big time ouch for Philly here.

[E_Stamkos]

I'll say. Seems like Al and Joel can't be on the floor together and that can't possibly be what they envisioned with this signing. Big time ouch for Philly here.

Why is that though? Admittedly, I haven't watched much of their games this year but Al being slotted at 4 would ostensibly seem like a good fit next to Embid.

What causes them to be so ineffective as a tandem?

[Derka]

Why is that though? Admittedly, I haven't watched much of their games this year but Al being slotted at 4 would ostensibly seem like a good fit next to Embid.

What causes them to be so ineffective as a tandem?

Hell if I know. Someone who watches more Philly games than me might know. I thought at the time of the signing that Al made a ton of sense for these first two years. Al showed himself to be able to adapt his game to whatever you needed. It was certainly a strength in his time in Boston. Even though he prefers to be at the 4, there were plenty of instances where Brad slid him into the 5 spot and he got the job done. He was never a marquee guy but he was always able to find ways to contribute. On Philly, he just seems lost. Maybe Brett Brown just hasn't figured out how to use him. I could definitely see work ethic/competitive drive issues between him and Embiid. He won't do it publicly but Al's all about pushing guys if he thinks they're not giving 100%.

[Shogon]

I thought Horford might help put them over the top for a year, well, that was clearly wrong thinking on my part.

I was a huge 76ers fan there for a minute, watching every minute of every game, and then they gutted the youth of the team and I just stopped watching. Hinke's vision is completely dead. McConnell, Covington, Saric, Fultz... all gone.... and for what? LOL. Those youthful players are a huge part of what made the team exciting. Belenelli and Ilyasova fit well with that group also.

The Tobias Harris signing is when I officially stopped watching.

Simmons and Embiid aren't complimentary.

What a shame... they were a Kawhi Leonard jump shot with a lucky bounce at the buzzer of a game 7 away from winning it all last year... to now they're mediocre and locked into that mediocrity for years to come as a result of mismanagement at the top by brain dead Elton Brand.

[NBAGOAT]

Why is that though? Admittedly, I haven't watched much of their games this year but Al being slotted at 4 would ostensibly seem like a good fit next to Embid.

What causes them to be so ineffective as a tandem?

Mainly a lack of shooting and some bad playcalling by brown. Especially when Simmons plays with them. People assumed Simmons and embiid would get a bit better there but they haven’t really.. Horford Harris and Richardson all regressed as shooters too so their main lineup, they have 2 weak shooters and their 2nd best shooter is horford at 35%.

When they replace one of embiid/Simmons/horford with a bench shooter they actually do ok on offense but then defense isn’t nearly as good.