How is Kawhi going to the Lakers any different than the Celtics Big 3 teaming up?

[Gus Hemmingway]

The average age of LeBron, Kawhi, Anthony Davis is 30 years old. The average age of Garnett, Pierce, and Allen was 31 years old when they teamed up :eek:

[SpaceJam2]

That boy Gus gottem spinnin

:dancin


B-b-b-b-b-b-b Lebron doe :cry:

[Shogon]

KG > AD
PP < LBJ
RA < KL

Ultimately it’s roughly the same, you’re right.

The problem is it’s LeBron. Lol. That’s really what this is all about.

[Shogon]

B-b-b-b-b-b-b Lebron doe :cry:

Yep lol.

[superduper]

You idiots don't realize your troll ass threads that ooze insecurity are nothing but detrimental to your hero.

Keep it up Bus!! :oldlol:

[LostCause]

[QUOTE=Shogon]KG > AD
PP < LBJ
RA < KL

Ultimately it

[Shogon]

Dumb take though the thread isn’t much worse

The ****?

LeBron is almost 35 years old asshole. You’d have a point if he were 25.

Thread is correct.

[jayfan]

Lebron, AD, and Kawhi are all Top 4 players in the league and each have an argument for #1 player in the league.


Boston's "big 3" didn't approach that.



.

[LostCause]

The ****?

LeBron is almost 35 years old asshole. You’d have a point if he were 25.

Thread is correct.

Ray Allen and Pierce aren’t even in the same stratosphere as Leonard and LeBron, who when they play are annual MVP candidates. Leonard literally just had an ATG playoff run and led his team to a championship, something none of those Celtics pulled off as the #1 on their own teams

KG to AD is a cool comparison though

[Gus Hemmingway]

Apparently 17th season LeBron is enough to make a team a “stacked super team” :roll:


Was 15th season MJ with Jerry Stackhouse and Rip Hamilton a superteam? :roll:


No, they missed the playoffs :D

[Gus Hemmingway]

[QUOTE=Shogon]KG > AD
PP < LBJ
RA < KL

Ultimately it

[LostCause]

Just AD and Kawhi makes a team unthinkably talented. Two Top 5 players who are both DPOY capable and regular MVP candidates

You could replace LeBron with Kyrie Irving and it’ll still be a super team

[Gus Hemmingway]

[QUOTE=LostCause]Just AD and Kawhi makes a team unthinkably talented. Two Top 5 players who are both DPOY capable and regular MVP candidates

You could replace LeBron with Kyrie Irving and it

[bigkingsfan]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=466248

Funny how AD is a bonafide top 5 as soonest he joined the Lakers, Lebron wasn't top five last year either.

[ImKobe]

Difference is that AD and Kawhi Leonard are both at their peaks and two of the best 5 players in the NBA. None of the Big 3 Celtics were really considered top 5 in the league when they linked up. KG, Allen and Pierce were all on the decline. KG was considered the best of the 3 and he was All-NBA 3rd team in 2007, Pierce hadn't made an All-NBA team since 2003 and Ray Allen I think didn't make one either after 2005.

The current potential Lakers Big 3 is 2011 Heat on steroids.

[Gus Hemmingway]

Oh right, I forgot the Celtics also had Prime Rondo and role players like James Posey

So they were better

[Shogon]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=466248

Funny how AD is a bonafide top 5 as soonest he joined the Lakers, Lebron wasn't top five last year either.


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[red1]

with no kd on the nets and no klay next season, kawhi signing with the lakers literally guarantees a chip if their big three can stay healthy. who's gonna stop them, the blazers?



weak weak weak.

[Derka]

The Celtics didn't "team up." Ray Allen had zero control over being traded and KG was being traded whether he wanted it or not.

[tontoz]

Boston's big 3 wasn't as good an none of them played ever played in the Finals until they teamed up. None of them left a top team as a free agent.

Kawhi just won a title. Lebron has 3 rings.

[LostCause]

So you admit the Nets are a superteam with KD, Kyrie, and Deandre?

Deandre sucks so no

Replace DeAndre with AD then absolutely
Wouldn

[LostCause]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=466248

Funny how AD is a bonafide top 5 as soonest he joined the Lakers, Lebron wasn't top five last year either.

AD didn’t play enough games and half of them he half-assed. Were you fake shocked that Kawhi was a Top 5 player last season after sitting out? Did it really take you by surprise since he didn’t make any All-NBA teams in 2018?

Here’s a thread I made a few weeks ago with Ben Taylor’s Top 10
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?p=13749645#post13749645

Most agree his analysis are excellent. That video was made before the trade, btw

[bigkingsfan]

[QUOTE=LostCause]AD didn

[SpaceJam2]

Apparently 17th season LeBron is enough to make a team a “stacked super team” :roll:


Was 15th season MJ with Jerry Stackhouse and Rip Hamilton a superteam? :roll:


No, they missed the playoffs :D

Gus on a rush!

Dont do em like thaaat

:hammertime: :yaohappy:

[SpaceJam2]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=466248

Funny how AD is a bonafide top 5 as soonest he joined the Lakers, Lebron wasn't top five last year either.


Uh oh :eek:

[Real Men Wear Green]

Apparently 17th season LeBron is enough to make a team a “stacked super team” :roll:


Was 15th season MJ with Jerry Stackhouse and Rip Hamilton a superteam? :roll:


No, they missed the playoffs :DI don't know what's worse, comparing Stack and Rip to Leonard and AD or not knowing that they were traded for each other and never played together to begin with. I suppose it doesn't matter, as the important thing here is that you're a stupid jackass.

Comparing wizard Jordan to James is also pretty stupid. I shouldn't leave that out.


Please go get hit by a bus. Thanks in advance.

[ronniec]

The only difference is, KG, PP and Ray never claimed to be GOAT, their fans never did. They were even in decline, and their prime were not as good as Lebron and Leonard (Don't think AD is better than prime KG).

Is there a sense of shame that, you want to form a superteam by tapping, while still want to be the GOAT?

GTFO

[SpaceJam2]

The only difference is, KG, PP and Ray never claimed to be GOAT, their fans never did. They were even in decline, and their prime were not as good as Lebron and Leonard (Don't think AD is better than prime KG).

Is there a sense of shame that, you want to form a superteam by tapping, while still want to be the GOAT?

GTFO


LeBron is 35 years old

Yikes

[Cleverness]

AD, Kawhi, and Lebron are top 5 players today.

KG was probably a top 5 player in 2008. The other two weren't.

[Phoenix]

AD is 26 and Kawhi 28. The only reason they hit an over 30 average is because Lebron is old as shit in basketball terms. Still, if even a 34/35 year old Lebron is able to slide into a third option/complementary role letting the two younger stars take the lead, this trio is still potentially light-years better than the Celtics big 3 since Kawhi/AD are a tier above Allen/Pierce, both in their primes as well as what they were when they came together( Ray was 33 and Pierce 31).

Of course, this is a troll thread and I wasted a minute of my life replaying, but I gotta kill time till 5 somehow.

[jayfan]

Oh right, I forgot the Celtics also had Prime Rondo and role players like James Posey

So they were better

They didn't have prime Rondo. They had 2nd year+ Rondo.

Rondo hit his prime after the big 3 disbanded.

[tpols]

Well for one AD and Kawhi are both at peak age... And MVP candidates. Pierce and Allen not only weren't as good, they were older. KG and bran is a wash but the former two create the huge gap.


If kemba walker and brad beal joined the lakers it would be comparable. Davis and kawhi is a whole nother level of collusion.

Basically WWE rn

[Gus Hemmingway]

Well for one AD and Kawhi are both at peak age... And MVP candidates. Pierce and Allen not only weren't as good, they were older. KG and bran is a wash but the former two create the huge gap.


Bran is older than all of the Celtics big 3 :eek:

[jayfan]

Apparently 17th season LeBron is enough to make a team a “stacked super team” :roll:


Was 15th season MJ with Jerry Stackhouse and Rip Hamilton a superteam? :roll:


No, they missed the playoffs :D


Gotta give Lebron credit here - Not even the most ardent Bron haters can argue his longevity. Probably the GOAT longevity.

But your analogy is cringy. Particularly since Rip & Stack never played together. They were traded for each other.


.

[NBAGOAT]

depends kind of how quickly lebron declines. It becomes a moot point if he does like kg who dropped from mvp level to all star/fringe all-nba after the 09 injury. A semi hot take I have is kg in 08 is better than any of the lakers potential big 3.

Obviously pierce and allen arent as good as the other 2 whoever you pick however and that's the main difference. Based on shaqattacks list, ray was 20th in 07 while paul didnt even make the top 25 and pierce was top 10 and ray was 25th in 08 their first year together. Stacked but not the Lakers. Better supporting cast for now but we dont know how kuzma plays or who else the lakers sign.

[3ball]

[QUOTE=Shogon]KG > AD
PP < LBJ
RA < KL

Ultimately it

[Cleverness]

Ranking teams by average age is even worse than "all-star appearances"

The fact is Anthony Davis, Kawhi Leonard, and Lebron James are top 5 players right now. Teaming up would be bad for basketball competition.

Garnett was arguably top 5 player entering 2007 season, but Ray Allen and Pierce, no way

[Meticode]

People arguing narratives like usual. For most people LeBron and Davis wasn't even in their Top 5 this year, but once they team up, "But, but, but they're top 5 players now." :oldlol:

[Hey Yo]

The Celtics didn't "team up." Ray Allen had zero control over being traded and KG was being traded whether he wanted it or not.
KG told McHale that he wouldn't re-sign with Boston if traded there. He absolutely wanted nothing to do with Boston. There had to be a lot of persuading. He warmed up to the idea once Ray had been traded there.

[Cleverness]

People arguing narratives like usual. For most people LeBron and Davis wasn't even in their Top 5 this year, but once they team up, "But, but, but they're top 5 players now." :oldlol:

AD been in my top 10 since 2014. He's been playing with absolute trash in New Orleans for 7 years.

https://youtu.be/93zief7g2Jk?t=1202

I pretty much agree with this top 10, but I take KD out (because he's not playing next year) and switch with Kawhi

1. Curry
2. Giannis
3-4. Davis/Kawhi
5. Lebron

[Cleverness]

Other than Curry/Giannis, name a deadlier 3 player combo heading into next season

Davis, Kawhi, Lebron



Imagine 2007 Kobe Bryant, 2007 Tim Duncan, and [take your pick] teaming up for 2007-08. jfc

[Kingwillball]

People should want this since Lebron is clearly the worst of the 3 these days lest see the proof in the pudding .. who is guy making and taking the big shots or ball is in hand with game on line?? Who will be finals mvp ect?? Even if Lebron takes slight backseat in scoring he will probably average career high in assists. So if he averages 24/25 ,10,6 that is still elite for older player.

[Gus Hemmingway]

Other than Curry/Giannis, name a deadlier 3 player combo heading into next season

Davis, Kawhi, Lebron



Imagine 2007 Kobe Bryant, 2007 Tim Duncan, and [take your pick] teaming up for 2007-08. jfc


LeBron is as old as 2014 Kobe :lol

[RealSkipBayless]

Goat candidates don't team up with 2 other stars and form super-teams

Period

By definition, goat candidates aren't supposed to need super-teams to win

/thread
Why would you need to team up in the milkman/car mechanic era?

[Kingwillball]

AD been in my top 10 since 2014. He's been playing with absolute trash in New Orleans for 7 years.

https://youtu.be/93zief7g2Jk?t=1202

I pretty much agree with this top 10, but I take KD out (because he's not playing next year) and switch with Kawhi

1. Curry
2. Giannis
3-4. Davis/Kawhi
5. Lebron

U having curry #1 shows the rest of your list can

[NBAGOAT]

[QUOTE=Kingwillball]U having curry #1 shows the rest of your list can

[SpaceJam2]

People arguing narratives like usual. For most people LeBron and Davis wasn't even in their Top 5 this year, but once they team up, "But, but, but they're top 5 players now." :oldlol:

Bingo


All of a sudden "out of the top 10 LeGroin" and "empty stats Davis" are both magically top 5 again :lol

[Kingwillball]

other people have had curry 1 too

Anybody with a brain knows curry isn’t #1.. he is at best between 5-7.

[Vino24]

also as a reminder Lakers only won 30 something games last season so you can't say LeBron colluded when he has been here this whole time

[SpaceJam2]

also as a reminder Lakers only won 30 something games last season so you can't say LeBron colluded when he has been here this whole time

NO ONE WANTS 2 PLAYz WITH HiM

[Poetry]

All of a sudden "out of the top 10 LeGroin" and "empty stats Davis" are both magically top 5 again :lol

AD, LeBron, and Kawhi are all top 10 in PER this year. There's no denying that.

Only KG was top 20 (#7) in PER the year before his big 3 formed.

[Cleverness]

U having curry #1 shows the rest of your list can’t be taken seriously.if you can’t separate fandom from facts don’t make lists.


other people have had curry 1 too

Yeah. The video explains it pretty well.

Oh yeah, and except I have separated it. Try to find a bunch of Curry threads from me; you'll probably find zero. And I actually said on here many times that the Warriors + KD was complete overkill and bad for NBA competition.

[SpaceJam2]

AD, LeBron, and Kawhi are all top 10 in PER this year. There's no denying that.

Only KG was top 20 (#7) in PER the year before his big 3 formed.

Karl Anthony Towns had a higher PER than KD and Curry and Kawhi and LeBron last year

LeBron is #2 all-time playoff PER so is he #2 goat all time in your eyes?

Careful now sweetie when you use stats you don't know about

[Poetry]

PER is not the only measure, obviously. But all three of those players are top 10 right now in the eyes of most basketball fans and analysts.

[tanibanana]

Why do people keep on saying Davis is a top-5 player.. :facepalm
Where would Davis be in the top-5 if names like; Giannis, Kawhi, Harden, George, Curry, LeBron, Lillard, Durant, Jokic will be put in the mix.

[Manny98]

The Celtics actually had depth and quality role players.

The Lakers would have a bunch of minimum contract g league level players outside the big 3

It would be a miracle if LeBron wins championships with this team

[Manny98]

[QUOTE=LostCause]Just AD and Kawhi makes a team unthinkably talented. Two Top 5 players who are both DPOY capable and regular MVP candidates

You could replace LeBron with Kyrie Irving and it

[Manny98]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=466248

Funny how AD is a bonafide top 5 as soonest he joined the Lakers, Lebron wasn't top five last year either.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Bronbron23]

The average age of LeBron, Kawhi, Anthony Davis is 30 years old. The average age of Garnett, Pierce, and Allen was 31 years old when they teamed up :eek:
Kg and Davis are equal but Bron and kawhi are better than Paul and they're way better than Ray. It's not close really. If Lakers get kawhi they'll end up with 2 of the top 10 all time. Maybe top 5 depending on how things play out over the next 5 years or so. Might sound crazy but kawhi is just entering his prime. If he wins 2 or 3 more chips he's right up there with LeBron, mj, magic, kareem, Kobe and Russell.

[RRR3]

I don't know what's worse, comparing Stack and Rip to Leonard and AD or not knowing that they were traded for each other and never played together to begin with. I suppose it doesn't matter, as the important thing here is that you're a stupid jackass.

Comparing wizard Jordan to James is also pretty stupid. I shouldn't leave that out.


Please go get hit by a bus. Thanks in advance.
Yo the bus comment is uncalled for. Encouraging death can actually lead to suicide.

[Cleverness]

Why do people keep on saying Davis is a top-5 player.. :facepalm
Where would Davis be in the top-5 if names like; Giannis, Kawhi, Harden, George, Curry, LeBron, Lillard, Durant, Jokic will be put in the mix.

Curry
Giannis
Kawhi/AD
Lebron

Let's look at the rest of your list

Harden and George have a case; the rest do not

Durant not counted because he's not playing next year
Lillard nice guy, but no way is he a top 5 player
Jokic up and coming, maybe in a few years he'll pass AD, but not top 5 player rn

Harden - does not elevate his team on offense. subpar defense compared to others at his position. watch the video I posted earlier. he's a top 10 player, but AD is much easier to build around/with
George - the closest. to me it's a toss up. but he can't make it out of the first round w/ Westbrook, while I would bet AD would have.

[tpols]

kawhi just won a title with kyle lowry and pascal siakam as his best help...

think about that and the threshold it would take for him to lose with anthony davis and role players.

[ArbitraryWater]

kawhi just won a title with kyle lowry and pascal siakam as his best help...

think about that and the threshold it would take for him to lose with anthony davis and role players.

yea, and ibaka, and marc gasol, and someone else who ALSO got a FMVP vote... sounds pretty good.

kawhi got carried in all 4th quarter wins. we know u ignore it

[Gus Hemmingway]

kawhi just won a title with kyle lowry and pascal siakam as his best help...

think about that and the threshold it would take for him to lose with anthony davis and role players.

He joined a #1 seed (Raps were #1 in 2018)

Now, do you see AD + role players getting the #1 seed? :wtf:


Think about this a little bit.

[Gus Hemmingway]

Curry
Giannis
Kawhi/AD
Lebron

Let's look at the rest of your list

Harden and George have a case; the rest do not

Durant not counted because he's not playing next year
Lillard nice guy, but no way is he a top 5 player
Jokic up and coming, maybe in a few years he'll pass AD, but not top 5 player rn

Harden - does not elevate his team on offense. subpar defense compared to others at his position. watch the video I posted earlier. he's a top 10 player, but AD is much easier to build around/with
George - the closest. to me it's a toss up. but he can't make it out of the first round w/ Westbrook, while I would bet AD would have.

So basically AD is Top 5 if you ignore everyone else in the Top 10 :roll:

[red1]

the league is relatively balanced right now the talent is spread evenly across teams so there aren't any other stacked teams. if ad kawhi and lebron end up on the same team they'd feast.


think about it. who would even challenge that team? the nets and warriors are injured this year but if healthy they'd get destroyed too. every single team next year would get RAPED.


I'm biased but it'd make the nba boring for me. if kawhi goes to the clippers on the other hand, that's a different story.


I don't think he has the personality or desire to join a superteam though in the first place, so we'll see.

[Gus Hemmingway]

the league is relatively balanced right now the talent is spread evenly across teams so there aren't any other stacked teams. if ad kawhi and lebron end up on the same team they'd feast.


think about it. who would even challenge that team? the nets and warriors are injured this year but if healthy they'd get destroyed too. every single team next year would get RAPED.


I'm biased but it'd make the nba boring for me. if kawhi goes to the clippers on the other hand, that's a different story.


I don't think he has the personality or desire to join a superteam though in the first place, so we'll see.


Did the 2008 Celtics make the league boring?

[red1]

Did the 2008 Celtics make the league boring?
this team would be better than the celtics.


its like the 2008 celtics if kg and ray allen were in their absolute prime and pierce was a couple of years older.

[LostCause]

[QUOTE=bigkingsfan]Heh, you'd agree with his "Best Careers in NBA History" then.

5 Shaquille O

[LostCause]

Now all of a sudden AD is a top 5 player :rolleyes:

You mean the guy who made All-NBA 1st team the last what, 4 full seasons he actually tried in? Yeah

You don

[Cleverness]

So basically AD is Top 5 if you ignore everyone else in the Top 10 :roll:

??

Who you got above him?

I just posted my explanations along with a detailed video that will educate you very well, sir.

[Manny98]

[QUOTE=LostCause]You mean the guy who made All-NBA 1st team the last what, 4 full seasons he actually tried in? Yeah

You don

[LostCause]

Literally noone said AD was a top 5 player prior to him joining the lakers i literally remember arguing with some posters because they didn't even have AD in their top 10 it was always ...

Giannis
KD
LeBron
Kawhi
Curry

In any order then Harden & AD just below

Don

[Cleverness]

I think AD got a bit forgotten this year because he demanded out and was shut down for the season by the Pelicans, pretty much a lost year from him. Also, he's been surrounded by garbage so he gets little attention.

If Manny's got him top 7, then he automatically moves up to 6 since KD isn't playing next year.. then it gets easily debatable between Harden and Davis. I'm taking Davis because he's easier to make a great team and Harden's defense is weak for his position

Might not be the best analogy here, but try inserting Harden into the great teams out there... now insert AD.... AD makes a much bigger impact

Or pair Harden with any other top 10 player
Then pair AD
The vast majority of combos will favor the one with AD

[talkingconch]

Because this big 3 is much better than that big 3

[Manny98]

[QUOTE=LostCause]Don

[jayfan]

Literally noone said AD was a top 5 player prior to him joining the lakers

False.

[Poetry]

LeBron's #1 fan Nick Wright just said:

"[Kawhi] joins the Lakers, they instantly become the best Big 3 we've ever seen. And he and Anthony Davis can be the best duo in basketball for a decade even once LeBron's done."

https://youtu.be/rFrXtDyngQ0?t=60

[DMAVS41]

Assuming Lebron plays at his level of last year (while actually trying on defense when needed)...

We haven't seen a team like this before. You are talking about 1 guy in the top 10 all time (likely top 5) in Lebron, I don't know where Leonard will ultimately rank (probably top 20), and Davis has the talent of a top 30 player of all time...

2 of them in the heart of their primes?

This team, if healthy, should be expected to destroy the league even with well below average replacement players around them. And, again, Kuzma is a really solid player and people shouldn't sleep on him. Not only for his game, but his ability to be traded for something they might need more.

This is a team that would be clear favorites over a healthy 17 Warriors team in a playoff series.

[Gus Hemmingway]

Assuming Lebron plays at his level of last year (while actually trying on defense when needed)...

We haven't seen a team like this before. You are talking about 1 guy in the top 10 all time (likely top 5) in Lebron, I don't know where Leonard will ultimately rank (probably top 20), and Davis has the talent of a top 30 player of all time...

2 of them in the heart of their primes?

This team, if healthy, should be expected to destroy the league even with well below average replacement players around them. And, again, Kuzma is a really solid player and people shouldn't sleep on him. Not only for his game, but his ability to be traded for something they might need more.

This is a team that would be clear favorites over a healthy 17 Warriors team in a playoff series.


LeBron is 35 years old...

[DMAVS41]

LeBron is 35 years old...

So?

He's still an elite...MVP caliber type player if his level doesn't drop from last year.

My personal guess? That Lebron will play better this year than he did last year, especially on defense, if the Lakers get Leonard...

When it matters.

[Manny98]

This is a team that would be clear favorites over a healthy 17 Warriors team in a playoff series.
I agree they would wreck the league but i wouldn't go as far as them being clear favorites over arguably the greatest team of all time :oldlol:

[Jasper]

Difference is AD , not Bron....
When Bron goes, they can get another Max perimeter shooter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQoJd54g6gk

[3ball]

So?

He's still an elite...MVP caliber type player if his level doesn't drop from last year.

My personal guess? That Lebron will play better this year than he did last year, especially on defense, if the Lakers get Leonard...

When it matters.
Ha, lebron will play the least defense of his career alongside 2 dpoy type players

[DMAVS41]

Ha, lebron will play the least defense of his career alongside 2 dpoy type players

He will when it doesn't matter, but people are sleeping on his capabilities when the games actually matter.

Hopefully we won't see...hopefully Leonard goes somewhere else.

But if he goes to the Lakers...ugh

[tpols]

Assuming Lebron plays at his level of last year (while actually trying on defense when needed)...

We haven't seen a team like this before. You are talking about 1 guy in the top 10 all time (likely top 5) in Lebron, I don't know where Leonard will ultimately rank (probably top 20), and Davis has the talent of a top 30 player of all time...

2 of them in the heart of their primes?

This team, if healthy, should be expected to destroy the league even with well below average replacement players around them. And, again, Kuzma is a really solid player and people shouldn't sleep on him. Not only for his game, but his ability to be traded for something they might need more.

This is a team that would be clear favorites over a healthy 17 Warriors team in a playoff series.


The same thing was said about the heat... 2010 wade and LeBron > kawhi and Davis, with bosh in a weak conference.

Not 1, not 2,...not 5, not 6 etc

But many people made hindsight excuses when they underachieved, and barely mention it.

[DMAVS41]

The same thing was said about the heat... 2010 wade and LeBron > kawhi and Davis, with bosh in a weak conference.

Not 1, not 2,...not 5, not 6 etc

But many people made hindsight excuses when they underachieved, and barely mention it.

Many people did, and it took the worst choke of all time to not win 3 titles in 4 years...and that was with Wade/Bosh falling off drastically in terms of impact.

This is also a much better fit in terms of players. Leonard next to Lebron makes way more sense basketball wise than Wade did...and Davis is a clear cut better player than Bosh imo.

We'll see...if Leonard goes there...I hope they fail, but I think they'll win 2 titles in the next 3 years.

[Gus Hemmingway]

Many people did, and it took the worst choke of all time to not win 3 titles in 4 years...and that was with Wade/Bosh falling off drastically in terms of impact.

This is also a much better fit in terms of players. Leonard next to Lebron makes way more sense basketball wise than Wade did...and Davis is a clear cut better player than Bosh imo.

We'll see...if Leonard goes there...I hope they fail, but I think they'll win 2 titles in the next 3 years.


How is this team any different than the 2008 Celtics?


And their bench will be trash

[DMAVS41]

How is this team any different than the 2008 Celtics?


And their bench will be trash

We'll see how they fill out the roster...but how is it different?

Well, their big 3 would be significantly better and it wouldn't be close...but the 08 Celtics won the title and like 66 games iirc.

[Derka]

How is this team any different than the 2008 Celtics?

And their bench will be trash
Pierce and Allen were not top 10 players in the league. Rondo and Perk were total unknowns. The only guys with any title experience on that team were James Posey and Sam Cassell.

This Lakers team would be fronted by three of the league's top five players, two of whom account for five of the last eight NBA Finals MVP awards. We've never seen a team like that before.

[Phoenix]

How is this team any different than the 2008 Celtics?


And their bench will be trash

AD/Kawhi/Lebron is a much better trio. Celtics bench will most assuredly be better, but the top level talent is more prolific. Kawhi and AD are in the heart of their primes and clearly better players than Pierce and Allen ever were, and Lebron even at 35 just came off a 27/8/8 year. If he holds to his word and relegates himself to third option......come on. Their 4th best player, Kuzma, put up 19/6/3 last year. This isn't even a discussion.

[Derka]

If you really think about that Celtics bench from the 08 team...it wasn't all that good on paper.

They got PJ Brown and Sam Cassell halfway through the season just to have some kind of veteran leadership on the bench. Tony Allen was definitely a defensive stalwart but he couldn't shoot for shit. Eddie House was a career journeyman. Leon Powe was scratching for playing time. Scalabrine was...Scalabrine. Big Baby was a rookie.

It took KG and Paul really buying in and setting an example to get those guys to nut up.

The Lakers are going to have to do something similar if they land Kawhi.

[yeaaaman]

hmm I could think of a few things:

a) Lebron is considered by some of you guys as the GOAT - Pierce, Allen or KG were nowhere close to that

b) Kawhi is a 2x FMVP coming off his second title and is regarded by many as the best player in the game, at worst top-3

c) A lot of others (basically everyone) puts AD as a top-5 player with Stephen A. being an example of those who think he's better than Kawhi.

With Durant out they have going into next year arguably the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd best player in the league with 2 of them being in their prime (you can argue AD hasn't reached his prime) yet, while the 3rd Lebron is seen be many of his supporters as on the tail end of his prime and still the best in the game.

That's overwhelmingly stacked talent right there to the degree we've never seen before, so yes slightly different. All those guys were in their 30s and none of them were considered the best player in the game. Each of Kawhi, Lebron and AD can be.

[And1AllDay]

hmm I could think of a few things:

a) Lebron is considered by some of you guys as the GOAT - Pierce, Allen or KG were nowhere close to that

b) Kawhi is a 2x FMVP coming off his second title and is regarded by many as the best player in the game, at worst top-3

c) A lot of others (basically everyone) puts AD as a top-5 player with Stephen A. being an example of those who think he's better than Kawhi.

With Durant out they have going into next year arguably the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd best player in the league with 2 of them being in their prime (you can argue AD hasn't reached his prime) yet, while the 3rd Lebron is seen be many of his supporters as on the tail end of his prime and still the best in the game.

That's overwhelmingly stacked talent right there to the degree we've never seen before, so yes slightly different. All those guys were in their 30s and none of them were considered the best player in the game. Each of Kawhi, Lebron and AD can be.

and just last week people had lebron out of the top 10 and AD was a borderline top 10 stat padder


LeGoat affect

amazun

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[yeaaaman]

and just last week people had lebron out of the top 10 and AD was a borderline top 10 stat padder


LeGoat affect

amazun


Some people? Look at the media - most still say Lebron is the best player in the world and that the only reason we're saying anyone else is because they missed the playoffs.

Ask Laker/Lebron fans - where do you guys rank him? All of a sudden it'll be "well he's at the tail end of his career, but I'll give him top 20 out of respect"

Who said AD isn't a top 10 player?