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k0kakw0rld
07-02-2019, 06:17 PM
Decision time...

In Masai we trust :rockon:

https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1146159548425805824?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Manny98
07-02-2019, 06:19 PM
What team are you going to support next once Kawhi leaves?

k0kakw0rld
07-02-2019, 06:23 PM
What team are you going to support next once Kawhi leaves?
I've been promoting Siakam/OG/Vanvleet all year. Pfff try harder little Manny. Trust me we'll be alright.

Since 2011 no team was ever added. I actually removed two out of the 4 I was **Following** Are you a Warriors fan now since D'Lo joined them? Weren't you rooting for him not long ago? :confusedshrug:

ScalsFan21
07-02-2019, 06:54 PM
I'd love to see him stay in TOR. Question is... do y'all retire his jersey if he bolts? He's the GOAT franchise player and delivered you your sole chip to date. 1 year was enough to do all that. :bowdown: That's almost a legacy best left alone, if you're him.

Meticode
07-02-2019, 06:55 PM
He picked the Raptors last so if he made his decision before meeting with them, he could simply just tell them and let them know in their meeting.

jbryan1984
07-02-2019, 06:58 PM
I hope he stays. Its good for the NBA when superstars win without another superstar. I love this Toronto team. They are fun to watch like the early 00's Kings or mid 90's Magic. Along those lines for me. I would much rather see him for the Clips than the Lakers though if he goes to LA.

Kingwillball
07-02-2019, 07:29 PM
Everyone realizes raptors will be one hit wonder with kawhi .. they played hobbled warrior team if they were full strength series to warriors in 6 max.. next year East is deeper no lock they even make it out of east.

RealSkipBayless
07-02-2019, 07:32 PM
Lakers not allowed to announce he already committed. Kawhi wants to leave with class and hear them out before leaving.

Respectable. :cheers:


I like how just because Kawhi said Clippers after Pop wouldn

Meticode
07-02-2019, 07:34 PM
Personally I hope he goes to the Clippers first, or stays with the Raptors. I'm more for competitive balance. I think going to the Clippers would be interesting. Seeing the Lakers and Clippers battle each other. Makes the West way more interesting. If he goes back to Toronto the clear best three teams are Toronto, Philly and Milwaukee still.

highwhey
07-02-2019, 07:43 PM
at this rate, id i were the lakers, i

RRR3
07-02-2019, 07:44 PM
Everyone realizes raptors will be one hit wonder with kawhi .. they played hobbled warrior team if they were full strength series to warriors in 6 max.. next year East is deeper no lock they even make it out of east.
They can easily repeat if he resigns.

RRR3
07-02-2019, 07:45 PM
Personally I hope he goes to the Clippers first, or stays with the Raptors. I'm more for competitive balance. I think going to the Clippers would be interesting. Seeing the Lakers and Clippers battle each other. Makes the West way more interesting. If he goes back to Toronto the clear best three teams are Toronto, Philly and Milwaukee still.
**** that shit. About time the arrogant western conference stans get a taste of their own medicine. Kawhi should stay.

Patrick Chewing
07-02-2019, 07:54 PM
OMG...

https://twitter.com/valleyboyzz_/status/1146202039661129728?s=21

k0kakw0rld
07-02-2019, 07:54 PM
Everyone realizes raptors will be one hit wonder with kawhi .. they played hobbled warrior team if they were full strength series to warriors in 6 max.. next year East is deeper no lock they even make it out of east.
The point is to be competitive and not join other stars. You obviously have no integrity.

Also Milwaukee were the best team in the NBA last season and we won 4 straight games to close them out.

Also we won 4 games in Oracle this year. Well deserved championship :cheers:

Duderonomy
07-02-2019, 07:59 PM
I'd love to see him stay in TOR. Question is... do y'all retire his jersey if he bolts? He's the GOAT franchise player and delivered you your sole chip to date. 1 year was enough to do all that. :bowdown: That's almost a legacy best left alone, if you're him.
No

They will retire Lowry's 7 because of the chip though.

Jay-B
07-02-2019, 08:04 PM
I think he’s a Laker for sure. This is my opinion and what I feel like is going on in Kawhis head he already did what he was suppose to with Toronto, he will never live that high of glory with the Raptors again. He won it the first year there what more does he need to show them, chances are the raptors won’t win it again let’s be honest here if GS is healthy they lose. He doesn’t want to sign with Toronto and get stuck with bad years there, would be a total waste. What’s better then arriving to the Lakers on his highest horse he’s won 2 titles with 2 different teams, nothing better for him to ride his career out winning titles with his hometown team, which also is the easiest path.

LukeWalton
07-02-2019, 09:06 PM
I'd love to see him stay in TOR. Question is... do y'all retire his jersey if he bolts? He's the GOAT franchise player and delivered you your sole chip to date. 1 year was enough to do all that. :bowdown: That's almost a legacy best left alone, if you're him.

they should. He brought Toronto their first ring.
he did his duty.

its a lot different than Durant with OKC, or LeBron during his first time in Cleveland who promised them bolted.

RRR3
07-02-2019, 09:11 PM
they should. He brought Toronto their first ring.
he did his duty.

its a lot different than Durant with OKC, or LeBron during his first time in Cleveland who promised them bolted.
LeBron kept his promise. He never said when he’d win a ring in Cleveland.

LukeWalton
07-02-2019, 09:13 PM
[QUOTE=RRR3]LeBron kept his promise. He never said when he

k0kakw0rld
07-02-2019, 09:31 PM
I said his FIRST time.
Back then, no one knew if LeBron would come back. But there was a strong feeling of betrayal he didn't keep his promise.
but yes he eventually did.

so back to Kawhi.. he did his job and got Toronto their first ring.
he can stay but he shouldn't be obligated too.
It's not a matter of him keeping his promise or nah. It's where he's landing that's about to screw the entire league. You think watching 8 years of LeBron and 5 straight Warriors vs LeBron was a fun thing for most of us?

RealSkipBayless
07-02-2019, 09:35 PM
It's not a matter of him keeping his promise or nah. It's where he's landing that's about to screw the entire league. You think watching 8 years of LeBron and 5 straight Warriors vs LeBron was a fun thing for most of us?
Probably not. Most of us didn't bandwagon golden state like you.

k0kakw0rld
07-02-2019, 09:37 PM
Probably not. Most of us didn't bandwagon golden state like you.
How do you bandwagon a team you been rooting for before they started winning?

Ask yourself the same question then come back to me again. STOOPID!

LostCause
07-02-2019, 09:53 PM
If Kawhi joins the Clippers or stays in Toronto, the level of parity will be higher than we’ve seen in a decade

Joining the Lakers, with GSW reeling and weakened, will make it as bad as or worse than Durant on the Warriors as far as parity.

I’d hope he stays in Toronto to at least defend the title on a 1+1 contract, then leaves if they can’t. But it’s not my decision and I’m sure he has dozens of more important reasons to leave or stay than just basketball

highwhey
07-02-2019, 09:56 PM
i'm calling it, he's joining the clippers.

DMAVS41
07-02-2019, 09:57 PM
i'm calling it, he's joining the clippers.

Watching Lakers fans have a meltdown would just be so great...

RRR3
07-02-2019, 10:01 PM
i'm calling it, he's joining the clippers.
Kawhi should really stay on the Raptors IMO. How the **** you not even gonna try and defend your ring?

Plus it makes the East more exciting.

Vino24
07-02-2019, 10:03 PM
The longer Kawhi delays the more likely he is going to the Lakers

DMAVS41
07-02-2019, 10:35 PM
The longer Kawhi delays the more likely he is going to the Lakers

I've heard a lot of people say this...and I'm not saying it is wrong...

But, delaying like this and then going back to the Raptors actually severely hurts the Lakers and damages one of their top opponents for the finals.

If it is as calculated a decision as some are saying...going back to the Raptors after preventing the Lakers from signing players makes sense.

RRR3
07-02-2019, 10:38 PM
The longer Kawhi delays the more likely he is going to the Lakers
Silly post. The longer he delays the less chance the Lakers have to scoop up available free agents.

Shogon
07-02-2019, 10:41 PM
I've heard a lot of people say this...and I'm not saying it is wrong...

But, delaying like this and then going back to the Raptors actually severely hurts the Lakers and damages one of their top opponents for the finals.

If it is as calculated a decision as some are saying...going back to the Raptors after preventing the Lakers from signing players makes sense.

Look, there's competition and then there's being a completely dirty piece of shit. People like James Harden take it into dirty piece of shit territory on the court. Kawhi never seemingly has, so hopefully it translates to off the court, but...

This would be a dirty piece of shit move to both the Clippers and Lakers if he were to return. He's literally doing two of the three teams dirty, actually, no matter what his motives are... because he's severely impacted their ability to make alternative plans in a timely manner.

People can say whatever they want about him being humble, but he ain't. And this shit ain't cool no matter who he leaves hanging.

He's had over a year to think about this. Well over a year. There's no way there were so many unanswered questions that he wasn't able to figure it out in 3+ days.

He's either purposefully sabotaging or he's attention whoring. I don't care what anyone else says. There is ZERO consideration for the two franchises he's about to leave hanging.

RRR3
07-02-2019, 10:48 PM
Look, there's competition and then there's being a completely dirty piece of shit. People like James Harden take it into dirty piece of shit territory on the court. Kawhi never seemingly has, so hopefully it translates to off the court, but...

This would be a dirty piece of shit move to both the Clippers and Lakers if he were to return. He's literally doing two of the three teams dirty, actually, no matter what his motives are... because he's severely impacted their ability to make alternative plans in a timely manner.

People can say whatever they want about him being humble, but he ain't. And this shit ain't cool no matter who he leaves hanging.

He's had over a year to think about this. Well over a year. There's no way there were so many unanswered questions that he wasn't able to figure it out in 3+ days.

He's either purposefully sabotaging or he's attention whoring. I don't care what anyone else says. There is ZERO consideration for the two franchises he's about to leave hanging.
Or maybe Kawhi legit is having trouble deciding.


Ever think of that?

Shogon
07-02-2019, 10:51 PM
Or maybe Kawhi legit is having trouble deciding.


Ever think of that?

Could be, but as I said, he's had over a year... and he seems like a smart guy that knows what he wants.

If this is the case and he's undecided, I believe it's only because he just won a title in Toronto. If that is the case, he has to realize that's very improbable to happen again and that should not be the reason for staying. He'd probably have a better shot at winning again with either LAC or LAL unless he believes Siakam is going to make a huge leap.

But do you really believe he's having a hard time picking between the three? That seems unlikely.

There are reports that it's "never been the Lakers and he's never had them in his sights" and if that's true that's REALLY bad because there's no way he doesn't know they only have three players officially signed.

IMObjective
07-02-2019, 10:52 PM
[QUOTE=Jay-B]I think he

talkingconch
07-03-2019, 12:38 AM
Could be, but as I said, he's had over a year... and he seems like a smart guy that knows what he wants.

If this is the case and he's undecided, I believe it's only because he just won a title in Toronto. If that is the case, he has to realize that's very improbable to happen again and that should not be the reason for staying. He'd probably have a better shot at winning again with either LAC or LAL unless he believes Siakam is going to make a huge leap.

But do you really believe he's having a hard time picking between the three? That seems unlikely.

There are reports that it's "never been the Lakers and he's never had them in his sights" and if that's true that's REALLY bad because there's no way he doesn't know they only have three players officially signed.

He wins with the Lakers, not even a debate

The Iron Fist
07-03-2019, 02:13 AM
Look, there's competition and then there's being a completely dirty piece of shit. People like James Harden take it into dirty piece of shit territory on the court. Kawhi never seemingly has, so hopefully it translates to off the court, but...

This would be a dirty piece of shit move to both the Clippers and Lakers if he were to return. He's literally doing two of the three teams dirty, actually, no matter what his motives are... because he's severely impacted their ability to make alternative plans in a timely manner.

People can say whatever they want about him being humble, but he ain't. And this shit ain't cool no matter who he leaves hanging.

He's had over a year to think about this. Well over a year. There's no way there were so many unanswered questions that he wasn't able to figure it out in 3+ days.

He's either purposefully sabotaging or he's attention whoring. I don't care what anyone else says. There is ZERO consideration for the two franchises he's about to leave hanging.
He doesn

Kblaze8855
07-03-2019, 08:28 AM
Look, there's competition and then there's being a completely dirty piece of shit. People like James Harden take it into dirty piece of shit territory on the court. Kawhi never seemingly has, so hopefully it translates to off the court, but...

This would be a dirty piece of shit move to both the Clippers and Lakers if he were to return. He's literally doing two of the three teams dirty, actually, no matter what his motives are... because he's severely impacted their ability to make alternative plans in a timely manner.

People can say whatever they want about him being humble, but he ain't. And this shit ain't cool no matter who he leaves hanging.

He's had over a year to think about this. Well over a year. There's no way there were so many unanswered questions that he wasn't able to figure it out in 3+ days.

He's either purposefully sabotaging or he's attention whoring. I don't care what anyone else says. There is ZERO consideration for the two franchises he's about to leave hanging.

Is he supposed to?

Teams don

DMAVS41
07-03-2019, 08:37 AM
Look, there's competition and then there's being a completely dirty piece of shit. People like James Harden take it into dirty piece of shit territory on the court. Kawhi never seemingly has, so hopefully it translates to off the court, but...

This would be a dirty piece of shit move to both the Clippers and Lakers if he were to return. He's literally doing two of the three teams dirty, actually, no matter what his motives are... because he's severely impacted their ability to make alternative plans in a timely manner.

People can say whatever they want about him being humble, but he ain't. And this shit ain't cool no matter who he leaves hanging.

He's had over a year to think about this. Well over a year. There's no way there were so many unanswered questions that he wasn't able to figure it out in 3+ days.

He's either purposefully sabotaging or he's attention whoring. I don't care what anyone else says. There is ZERO consideration for the two franchises he's about to leave hanging.

I love how people like you think everything is fair when franchises screw each other over constantly in a never-ending war to make the most money and win the most titles, but the minute a player (still with limited power comparatively) takes his time to make a decision and in the process might benefit the team he chooses and hurt the teams he doesn't...

Is somehow completely dirty and out of bounds...

Is there something wrong with purposely sabotaging your opponent in free agency? If you aren't breaking rules, why?

Maybe he is an attention whore. I don't know, I personally don't think he is, but nobody really knows what Leonard is or what he wants in the public forum. Again though...is he breaking a rule?

If not, I think Lakers fans and complaining fans should shut the **** up and pray he chooses your franchise.

Bosnian Sajo
07-03-2019, 08:40 AM
Got a bad feeling today boys..

DMAVS41
07-03-2019, 08:51 AM
Got a bad feeling today boys..

I thought your whole argument was that is was a done deal and that you were pissed at Leonard for delaying his decision?

Bosnian Sajo
07-03-2019, 09:19 AM
I thought your whole argument was that is was a done deal and that you were pissed at Leonard for delaying his decision?


That was my argument in one of my replies, based off of the source (rda) announcing that it was all complete, most of us on lakers reddit hold his word in high regard when it comes to leaks.

That still is on my mind and giving me hope that maybe he's right and we do get him.


But my biggest argument about why the Kawhi situation was pissing me off was because it would **** over 2/3 of the teams involved. We could very well be one of the 2 teams.

Feel free to tell me "i told you so" if he doesn't sign with the Lakers, I have no shame in admitting when my assumptions are wrong.

DMAVS41
07-03-2019, 09:31 AM
I can't really say "I told you so" when I don't know anything about where he's going or his motivations.

Kingwillball
07-03-2019, 09:37 AM
I have feeling more rumors might start swirling later today and by late tonight or early afternoon tomorrow it will be official. Still with Vegas odds and so many celebrity people (like snoop) acting like it’s a done deal to Lakers still have to feel somewhat optimistic. I mean if he was going back to Toronto don’t you think he would of announced it days ago? What would be point if this long wait ? I think clippers have given him something to think about but the lakers are better choice all the way around EXCEPT having to share the spotlight with 2 other big stars. Also, if lakers get Iggy that is perfect for Kawhi and Lebron can fill in as spot starter for either or be his usual super sub off bench. Also would fit into Lakers death lineup with Lebron(PG), kawhi(SG),Iggy(SF),Kuzma(PF) AD(C)..:applause:

DMAVS41
07-03-2019, 09:40 AM
[QUOTE=Kingwillball]I have feeling more rumors might start swirling later today and by late tonight or early afternoon tomorrow it will be official. Still with Vegas odds and so many celebrity people (like snoop) acting like it

Jasper
07-03-2019, 09:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQoJd54g6gk

nice argument

Bosnian Sajo
07-03-2019, 09:41 AM
[QUOTE=Kingwillball]I have feeling more rumors might start swirling later today and by late tonight or early afternoon tomorrow it will be official. Still with Vegas odds and so many celebrity people (like snoop) acting like it

ZenMaster
07-03-2019, 10:23 AM
The Vegas odds are the best evidence imo, but even that needs to be taken in context...

Because the Lakers are such a heavily bet team...it could just be the books hedging against him going there with the price movements and not an actual indicator of his choice.

I think we will know by the 5th.

Odds on winning the title went from about +300 to +125 the day before yesterday, I believe a bit after RDAmbition and others posted the information online.

We're talking outright bets here for the season, there generally isn't that much action on them, that they would go down that much because of people placing bets.

The +125 represents the chances of LA winning the championship and included in that price is the fact that they will probably get Kawhi. If it happens, expect the odds to go down a little bit furter, and if not, then probably back to around +300 or a bit higher even depending on which team he goes to and their chances of winning the title.

DMAVS41
07-03-2019, 10:42 AM
Odds on winning the title went from about +300 to +125 the day before yesterday, I believe a bit after RDAmbition and others posted the information online.

We're talking outright bets here for the season, there generally isn't that much action on them, that they would go down that much because of people placing bets.

The +125 represents the chances of LA winning the championship and included in that price is the fact that they will probably get Kawhi. If it happens, expect the odds to go down a little bit furter, and if not, then probably back to around +300 or a bit higher even depending on which team he goes to and their chances of winning the title.

I know exactly what the numbers represent.

Again, with a team like the Lakers...you aren't realizing how heavily bet by the public they are.

I said it was the best evidence, but needs context because even if they didn't have inside information, the books would have to hedge with the rumors swirling like they did.

The story you lay out above supports exactly what I said...and you are right...if he actually goes there...the odds will drop even more.

Honestly, if they knew Leonard was for sure going there...they'd probably be -250 or something absurd to win the title because people would pay just about any price.

Kblaze8855
07-03-2019, 11:20 AM
If the guy who leaked it really is Jeanie

ZenMaster
07-03-2019, 12:38 PM
I know exactly what the numbers represent.

Again, with a team like the Lakers...you aren't realizing how heavily bet by the public they are.

I said it was the best evidence, but needs context because even if they didn't have inside information, the books would have to hedge with the rumors swirling like they did.

The story you lay out above supports exactly what I said...and you are right...if he actually goes there...the odds will drop even more.

Honestly, if they knew Leonard was for sure going there...they'd probably be -250 or something absurd to win the title because people would pay just about any price.

I didn't say you were wrong, I just think you're overstating your but as placed bets shouldn't affect the price that much.

Where you say hedging, I think it's more analysis of the probability that he's going there based on the indicators available. That includes what the media is say as well as potential insiders on different forums.
Right now, those indicators show a chance that a decision has actually been made while kept tight by both parties(potential inside sources posting on forums and twitter). And if that is not the case, then there's still a chance that he will decide on LA either today or tomorrow(various media members).
The problem so to speak with the first part, is that if a decision indeed has been made and Kawhi is waiting to announce in order to protect his brand from criticism as much as possible(no reason to be disrespectful to the fan base that just supported you heavily), then you are giving certain people who are in the know a chance of betting on a sure thing.
I think for this reason, you can't even bet on Kawhi going to LA anymore, but only to win the title - I could be wrong on that, but haven't seen odds on it in a while.

Also, bookies take plenty of risk, because it's not possible to create profit when the favorites win, because as you say they are bet the most frequent by the public. The profit for bookies come when an underdog wins, that goes for all bets and when talking about season outrights, it can take many years to create a profit on them, like in this season where a TON of money was lost by the public because of the Toronto win.

To Kblaze: Did you see the account links? I'm so sure it is in fact her nephew.

DMAVS41
07-03-2019, 12:53 PM
I didn't say you were wrong, I just think you're overstating your but as placed bets shouldn't affect the price that much.

Where you say hedging, I think it's more analysis of the probability that he's going there based on the indicators available. That includes what the media is say as well as potential insiders on different forums.
Right now, those indicators show a chance that a decision has actually been made while kept tight by both parties(potential inside sources posting on forums and twitter). And if that is not the case, then there's still a chance that he will decide on LA either today or tomorrow(various media members).
The problem so to speak with the first part, is that if a decision indeed has been made and Kawhi is waiting to announce in order to protect his brand from criticism as much as possible(no reason to be disrespectful to the fan base that just supported you heavily), then you are giving certain people who are in the know a chance of betting on a sure thing.
I think for this reason, you can't even bet on Kawhi going to LA anymore, but only to win the title - I could be wrong on that, but haven't seen odds on it in a while.

Also, bookies take plenty of risk, because it's not possible to create profit when the favorites win, because as you say they are bet the most frequent by the public. The profit for bookies come when an underdog wins, that goes for all bets and when talking about season outrights, it can take many years to create a profit on them, like in this season where a TON of money was lost by the public because of the Toronto win.

To Kblaze: Did you see the account links? I'm so sure it is in fact her nephew.

I see the confusion.

I'm not saying, at all, that placed bets caused that. I'm saying that the books have to alter the price just off rumors in case the public (and sharps) decide to start betting.

I'm just arguing that the books have to move the price off of rumors a bit more than normal for a team like the Lakers because they are so heavily bet in general...I'm not saying that a wave of public money at the time caused the price to move.

Of course there is risk for the books at times, but their job (unless they see an edge) is to get close to even money on both sides and collect the juice. Obviously they are in the gambling business and they gamble themselves when they think a favorite (as you rightly point out) is overbought by the public yet they don't shade the line because they are willing to risk it.

My main point really is that the Lakers with Leonard are likely going to be huge favorites. I don't know how huge because a lot goes into it, but I wouldn't be shocked at -200 to -250 or something. The Warriors were -250 iirc going into the 18 season.

So, as you point out, that price is going to change again when they know for sure if he's going there. My guess is that it will be close to -200 right off the bat...

TheMan
07-03-2019, 03:23 PM
Didn't Kawhi grow up a Lakers fan? He's from LA...Not looking good for the Raptors.

qrich
07-03-2019, 03:31 PM
Didn't Kawhi grow up a Lakers fan? He's from LA...Not looking good for the Raptors.

No, he grew up an AI fan, didn't like the Lakers.

I can find the video clip if you really want me to dig ):

TheMan
07-03-2019, 03:41 PM
No, he grew up an AI fan, didn't like the Lakers.

I can find the video clip if you really want me to dig ):
Ah ok :cheers:

So there's still hope he doesn't go to the Lakers and we can actually have competition in the NBA :rockon:

k0kakw0rld
07-03-2019, 04:46 PM
Didn't Kawhi grow up a Lakers fan? He's from LA...Not looking good for the Raptors.
I created a thread about that actually.

I am the best poster here. I am clearly overlooked but just pay attention.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?p=13768630#post13768630

bladefd
07-03-2019, 05:12 PM
Kawhi has a $13m mansion in LA. It's his home. Why would he stay in Toronto if his home, family, everyone he knows is in LA? Makes no sense. I think he is definitely going to LA.

Then you have to figure Lakers vs Clippers. What exactly makes Clippers more compelling? They have no history and are known for screwing over players (i.e. Griffin). They have lots of midrange role-players and are not championship contenders. Lakers have a name, global brand, AEG marketing firm to get involved in selling you and also legends like Kobe & Magic who will be a phone-call away if you need opinion on anything. Lakers have always taken care of their players going back to the 60s, often offering them positions inside the organization after retirement. I didn't even mention LeBron and AD yet and those 2 allowing Kawhi to take off games easily for "load management." Once LeBron leaves in 4yrs, Kawhi becomes the Sheriff in town with his badass deputy AD tearing apart the league.

His best bet is the Lakers. Lakers Lakers Lakers. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

k0kakw0rld
07-03-2019, 05:19 PM
Kawhi has a $13m mansion in LA. It's his home. Why would he stay in Toronto if his home, family, everyone he knows is in LA? Makes no sense. I think he is definitely going to LA.

Then you have to figure Lakers vs Clippers. What exactly makes Clippers more compelling? They have no history and are known for screwing over players (i.e. Griffin). They have lots of midrange role-players and are not championship contenders. Lakers have a name, global brand, AEG marketing firm to get involved in selling you and also legends like Kobe & Magic who will be a phone-call away if you need opinion on anything. Lakers have always taken care of their players going back to the 60s, often offering them positions inside the organization after retirement. I didn't even mention LeBron and AD yet and those 2 allowing Kawhi to take off games easily for "load management." Once LeBron leaves in 4yrs, Kawhi becomes the Sheriff in town with his badass deputy AD tearing apart the league.

His best bet is the Lakers. Lakers Lakers Lakers. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Shut the **** up idiot. It has nothing to do with Toronto. We want a f--king competitive league for GOD sake. Do you think it's fun to have the champion crowned before the season starts?

bladefd
07-03-2019, 05:31 PM
Shut the **** up idiot. It has nothing to do with Toronto. We want a f--king competitive league for GOD sake. Do you think it's fun to have the champion crowned before the season starts?

Whoa whoa, you are having a nuclear meltdown there, pal. Take a few deep breaths and relax. Repeat after me, "All is well, all is well, all is well."

Naero
07-03-2019, 05:41 PM
This is the most anxiously I've ever awaited a free-agency decision, and I'm hoping it won't announce a new superteam formation. Every plane of my NBA fandom is praying against Kawhi in Purple & Gold.

As a Bucks fan, I want our possibly short-lived title-contention window to stay chocked open.

As a general NBA fan, I want the league to segue from the superstar era into parity.

As an ATG-appreciator, I don't want this possible superstar triumvirate to dilute each others' accomplishments a la Curry and Durant—nor for them to artificially deprive other ATGs of championship hardware.

Even whatever vestige of Lakers fandom I have left (cache of my Kobe fandom) would find it too bathetic compared to the '09 and '10 titles.

Kawhi's decision will make or break this NBA season for me, so I'm curbing all my excitement for the latter until it's announced.

1987_Lakers
07-03-2019, 05:47 PM
I remember growing up as a kid-late teen in the 2000-2010 era wishing we would see more super teams like the 80's Lakers & Celtics, but now almost in 2020, with all the super teams we have seen, I'm kinda tired of them, but I'm still rooting for the Lakers to get Kawhi if it means more titles for the Lakers.

Bosnian Sajo
07-03-2019, 06:07 PM
I remember growing up as a kid-late teen in the 2000-2010 era wishing we would see more super teams like the 80's Lakers & Celtics, but now almost in 2020, with all the super teams we have seen, I'm kinda tired of them, but I'm still rooting for the Lakers to get Kawhi if it means more titles for the Lakers.


I've always been of the group that preferred to let our young group grow and add 1 or 2 big time free agents to them while on their rookie deals.

It is what it is, I'm not complaining but this definitely is not the route i would have taken...especially if we miss out on Kawhi. Now you got bron, ad, kuz, and all the top free agents (meaning 95% of the top 50 guys) signed on rosters.