Kawhi Leonard to Clippers is happening

[Keno]

Read http://www.insidehoops.com/nba_rumors.shtml

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Free agent forward Kawhi Leonard has informed runners-up teams of his plans: He's signing with the Clippers, league sources tell ESPN.


:wtf:

[GreatHILL]

lmao

[RealSkipBayless]

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[highwhey]

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[red1]

Congrats clippers fans

[Smook A.]

Holy shit! PG too!

[red1]

Thought we had this not gonna lie still glad it's not the lakers

[Ass Dan]

wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow

[oh the horror]

Kawhi doing Kawhi things. You knew this dude was going to do some shit like this.

Laker fans, you know why this is right? That ordeal with Magic hurt them moving forward. I guarantee he didn

[Real14]

:lol :roll:

[Boki4MVP]

Hahaha sorry laker fans.

[bison]

Man wtf

[bullettooth]

:lol :lol :lol

BRONSEXUALS!

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[dazzer87]

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[305Baller]

Two good LA teams, competing against each other? James vs Kawhi? Excellent.


HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA

BRAN BOOZLED!!!

[Hey Yo]

LeBron haters furious that they can't cry "SUPERTEAM" all season.

[bullettooth]

LeBron haters furious that they can't cry "SUPERTEAM" all season.

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[SaltyMeatballs]

Suck a dick Lakers fans :roll:

[bobopenguin]

u guys are funny. Lakers are already a super team..
Lebron + anthony Davis.

now we just need to add in Demarcus Cousins. :pimp:
I am fking pumped to see how the match up between Kawhi + PG + Beverley vs Leborn + AD + Kuz

[Real14]

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:roll:

[Real14]

:applause: :cheers:

[Callystarr]

I wouldn't be so fast on the Clippers train.

They gave up Gallinari, 2 other players, and 5 first rounders. Unless they get lucky with some vet minimums they have 0 bench.

[dazzer87]

Lakers time to max up Cousins......... :roll:

[Smoke117]

Suck a dick Lakers fans :roll:

/thread

[SaltyMeatballs]

u guys are funny. Lakers are already a super team..
Lebron + anthony Davis.

now we just need to add in Demarcus Cousins. :pimp:
I am fking pumped to see how the match up between Kawhi + PG + Beverley vs Leborn + AD + Kuz
Going from "We're getting Kawhi" to "Let's get DeMarcus Cousins" bahahahah :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[SpaceJammeR]

Glad kawhi didn

[oh the horror]

I wouldn't be so fast on the Clippers train.

They gave up Gallinari, 2 other players, and 5 first rounders. Unless they get lucky with some vet minimums they have 0 bench.





Who are the

[oh the horror]

Going from "We're getting Kawhi" to "Let's get DeMarcus Cousins" bahahahah :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:



They still have Lebron, AD and Kuzma. What a nightmare. :rolleyes:

[brownmamba00]

Jerry West GOAT just got Paul George too

[Naero]

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Thank you, Kawhi, for tipping the scales in favor of parity. :bowdown: You quashed the previous-two dynasties in the Finals, and you forestalled another one this off-season.

Never thought I'd exult over the Clippers' fortunes, but I can't help but do so when looking at the grander picture of the league. I've had a snootful rooting against the Miami Heatles and Golden Medal Warriors, and I wasn't any more inclined towards reliving it with another superteam after last year's incredible playoffs.

This is the Bucks' biggest off-season win: not re-signing their core, but Kawhi's decision. He not only kept our title-contention chances afloat by refusing to forge the best Big Three in NBA history; he improved them by paving an easier path to the Finals for us (granted, the 76ers will still roughen that road).

What a ****ing time to be an NBA Fan. :rockon:

[Callystarr]

[QUOTE=oh the horror]Who are the

[1987_Lakers]

I guess the 2017 Warriors will officially go down as the GOAT team now that Kawhi didn't choose the Lakers.

[Smoke117]

I guess the 2017 Warriors will officially go down as the GOAT team now that Kawhi didn't choose the Lakers.

The Warriors would still have been better than the Lakers regardless if Kawhi joined them. Outside of LeBron, Kawhi, and Davis the Lakers were going to be complete garbage.

[bullettooth]

How shit does the city of Toronto have to be if you still bounce from it even after winning a championship in your first year there?

[E_Stamkos]

LeBron haters furious that they can't cry "SUPERTEAM" all season.

What a dumb c*unt you are

[And1AllDay]

LeBron haters furious that they can't cry "SUPERTEAM" all season.


+1

fuming

[bullettooth]

+1

fuming

The whole forum is laughing at you and the Lakers and you think they're fuming?

:lol

[brutalBBQ]

+1

fuming



The whole forum is laughing at you and the Lakers and you think they're fuming?

haha fkn own'd And1mGayAllDay

[L8krH8tr]

funny how the PG13 move is more shocking to people. It's huge but Klaw just signed with the Clippers!

[Darius]

Holy Sh:t.

Unreal as a clipper fan.

Two top 10 players. Both some of the best wing defenders in the league. With pat bev running point. Damn.

I need some time to process this.

[Foster5k]

Kawhi is an idiot. He quit on the Spurs. He left a championship team to move to L.A. He talks about wanting load management, but he joins a team where he will be forced to carry most of the load.

The Clippers will still be the Clippers. Magic Johnson's plan was always to get two stars in L.A. Well, he got Lebron and AD. That's enough to win the West imo. Sure, adding Kawhi would have made the Lakers into Warriors with KD 2.0; but with Lebron + AD, the Lakers still are an incredible threat to win the championship vs anyone.

I don't see the Clippers winning anything next season. Clippers better worry about Kawhi's health and his load management before even thinking about the Lakers. Paul George is a streaky shooter at best and couldn't win shit with Westbrook and then all of a sudden demanded a trade to the Clippers. Talk about weak moves. Paul George's legacy too another hit with this move.

All in all, Lakers still favorites to win and the Clippers will still be the Clippers. Just like Paul George second fiddle to the Lakers. :oldlol:

[sbw19]

The only move that makes sense. He wants LA, he wants competition. This is good for the NBA, and as a basketball fan I like this move. As a Laker fan, superstacking a team really cheapens whatever accomplishments the team is capable of achieving. Time to fill out the rest of our roster.

[Smoke117]

Kawhi is an idiot. He quit on the Spurs. He left a championship team to move to L.A. He talks about wanting load management, but he joins a team where he will be forced to carry most of the load.

The Clippers will still be the Clippers. Magic Johnson's plan was always to get two stars in L.A. Well, he got Lebron and AD. That's enough to win the West imo. Sure, adding Kawhi would have made the Lakers into Warriors with KD 2.0; but with Lebron + AD, the Lakers still are an incredible threat to win the championship vs anyone.

I don't see the Clippers winning anything next season. Clippers better worry about Kawhi's health and his load management before even thinking about the Lakers. Paul George is a streaky shooter at best and couldn't win shit with Westbrook and then all of a sudden demanded a trade to the Clippers. Talk about weak moves. Paul George's legacy too another hit with this move.

All in all, Lakers still favorites to win and the Clippers will still be the Clippers. Just like Paul George second fiddle to the Lakers. :oldlol:

Yes, because Anthony Davis and an aging LeBron are the defintion of health. Bran wil be on load management himself. The Clippers also have a much better team outside their big two. "Clippers will still be the Clippers". Idiot.

[E_Stamkos]

Kawhi is an idiot. He quit on the Spurs. He left a championship team to move to L.A. He talks about wanting load management, but he joins a team where he will be forced to carry most of the load.

The Clippers will still be the Clippers. Magic Johnson's plan was always to get two stars in L.A. Well, he got Lebron and AD. That's enough to win the West imo. Sure, adding Kawhi would have made the Lakers into Warriors with KD 2.0; but with Lebron + AD, the Lakers still are an incredible threat to win the championship vs anyone.

I don't see the Clippers winning anything next season. Clippers better worry about Kawhi's health and his load management before even thinking about the Lakers. Paul George is a streaky shooter at best and couldn't win shit with Westbrook and then all of a sudden demanded a trade to the Clippers. Talk about weak moves. Paul George's legacy too another hit with this move.

All in all, Lakers still favorites to win and the Clippers will still be the Clippers. Just like Paul George second fiddle to the Lakers. :oldlol:

Sour grapes drizzling down the crack of your butt cheeks.

You'd be singing his praises and begging for a taste of his ball sweat had he signed with the Lakers.... It's only a sport bro. Calm down.

[ArbitraryWater]

The Warriors would still have been better than the Lakers regardless if Kawhi joined them. Outside of LeBron, Kawhi, and Davis the Lakers were going to be complete garbage.

oh no, outside of LeBron, Kawhi, Davis, AND Kuzma, they would be complete garbage! Its not like, there's only 1 player left...


dumbass lmao

[34-24 Footwork]

Lebron James:

"I'll cater to your needs, Kawhi. Please come."

Kawhi:

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[LoneyROY7]

Kawhi is a f*cking G.

No CAP.

STRAIGHT punking dudes.

[RealSkipBayless]

Lebron James:

"I'll cater to your needs, Kawhi. Please come."

Kawhi:

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I think the whole line about "this will be your team in 2 years" was even worse. Can you imagine Kawhi's thoughts when a player that he is better than tells him he needs to wait 2 years to take the reigns?

[90sgoat]

:roll:

PG is a much better running mate than Lebron. He has already shown he can be a high performer, but not be the alpha. Perfect Pippen sidekick to Kawhi's MJ.

So Westbrook now gets to play with Gallo, that's interesting.

[NBAGOAT]

:roll:

PG is a much better running mate than Lebron. He has already shown he can be a high performer, but not be the alpha. Perfect Pippen sidekick to Kawhi's MJ.

So Westbrook now gets to play with Gallo, that's interesting.

A hot take I have is neither will be on okc by the start of the season. Dallas will trade like hardaway and couple picks for gallo

[90sgoat]

A hot take I have is neither will be on okc by the start of the season. Dallas will trade like hardaway and couple picks for gallo

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I just realized you might be right.

This could very well be OKC rebuilding and moving on from the Westbrook era.

Which means they want to be bad for a couple of seasons to grab a high lottery pick..

Which means they need a tank commander...

Which means they need THJ ! ! !

:applause: :applause:

Sweet damn, if that's true. Just need to figure out something for that Dragic trade and we can do:

Dragic / Brunson
Luka /
Gallo / DFS
KP / Kleber
Boban / ?

and when the other teams go small (most of the time):

Dragic
Luka
DFS
Gallo
KP

Sheeeeeiiiiiiiit bruh

And if we want to go DEFENSE:

Brunson
Luka
DFS
Kleber
KP

We good now bruh

[coin24]

Lebron James:

"I'll cater to your needs, Kawhi. Please come."

Kawhi:

https://media.giphy.com/media/cQtlhD48EG0SY/giphy.gif


Can't blame him.


I made the same face when the lakers signed LeBaldo.

[Proctor]

Eat shit, Lebron nutriding losers. :oldlol:

Constantly making threads for the last two weeks about who Lebron can fetch. Enjoy not being a contender :roll: :roll:

Time to go back into hiding. See you on Lebald's next team bounce when he's 40.

[ImKobe]

Eat shit, Lebron nutriding losers. :oldlol:

Constantly making threads for the last two weeks about who Lebron can fetch. Enjoy not being a contender :roll: :roll:

Time to go back into hiding. See you on Lebald's next team bounce when he's 40.

We bout to beat your ass in the first round boy :lol

[brandonislegend]

:roll:

PG is a much better running mate than Lebron. He has already shown he can be a high performer, but not be the alpha. Perfect Pippen sidekick to Kawhi's MJ.

So Westbrook now gets to play with Gallo, that's interesting.

PG got punked by ****ing Ingles in the playoffs :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[90sgoat]

PG got punked by ****ing Ingles in the playoffs :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Ingles is a beast so its excused.

[Lakers Fan]

Broussard can shove that 6pm deadline up his ginger assh0le

[NBAGOAT]

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I just realized you might be right.

This could very well be OKC rebuilding and moving on from the Westbrook era.

Which means they want to be bad for a couple of seasons to grab a high lottery pick..

Which means they need a tank commander...

Which means they need THJ ! ! !

:applause: :applause:

Sweet damn, if that's true. Just need to figure out something for that Dragic trade and we can do:

Dragic / Brunson
Luka /
Gallo / DFS
KP / Kleber
Boban / ?

and when the other teams go small (most of the time):

Dragic
Luka
DFS
Gallo
KP

Sheeeeeiiiiiiiit bruh

And if we want to go DEFENSE:

Brunson
Luka
DFS
Kleber
KP

We good now bruh

Your dream of an eu super team always gives me a chuckle :lol. Dragic is possible since mavs didn

[D-Wait]

Lebron James:

"I'll cater to your needs, Kawhi. Please come."

Kawhi:

https://media.giphy.com/media/cQtlhD48EG0SY/giphy.gif

:lol :lol :lol

[90sgoat]

[QUOTE=NBAGOAT]Your dream of an eu super team always gives me a chuckle :lol. Dragic is possible since mavs didn

[smoovegittar]

Congrats Clip fans for netting the real big fish. Lakers fans holding a big "L" today. All Clips need to do now is solidify the bench and get their own crib.

Witness the end of the LeBron era. Can't happen soon enough. Back to the video games, kiddies. :D

[SamuraiSWISH]

Love it.

Perimeter defense is going to be absurd.

They’ve got some tough dudes, great defenders and length. And three guys that can create their own shot in Klaw, PG13 and Sweet Lou. Happy for Clipp fans. They’re loyalty and deserves something like this

Funny every player wants to go home and stay there to play for their hometown except LeBron :oldlol:


Kawhi is an idiot. He quit on the Spurs. He left a championship team to move to L.A. He talks about wanting load management, but he joins a team where he will be forced to carry most of the load.

The Clippers will still be the Clippers. Magic Johnson's plan was always to get two stars in L.A. Well, he got Lebron and AD. That's enough to win the West imo. Sure, adding Kawhi would have made the Lakers into Warriors with KD 2.0; but with Lebron + AD, the Lakers still are an incredible threat to win the championship vs anyone.

I don't see the Clippers winning anything next season. Clippers better worry about Kawhi's health and his load management before even thinking about the Lakers. Paul George is a streaky shooter at best and couldn't win shit with Westbrook and then all of a sudden demanded a trade to the Clippers. Talk about weak moves. Paul George's legacy too another hit with this move.

All in all, Lakers still favorites to win and the Clippers will still be the Clippers. Just like Paul George second fiddle to the Lakers. :oldlol:
You’re legit sad and angry right now :oldlol: tears probably all over your key board.

This move Leonard made is responsible, respectable and intelligent.

The Clippers are the destination in LA right now. Great competent likable ownership. He wanted to live at home and not be second or third fiddle to LeBron / AD as well as be a scapegoat. He didn’t have a reliable long term sidekick in Toronto as all teams have gotten better.

And him, PG, Bev and Lou are quite the squad without being a full fledged super team. Also a really likable gritty defensive team to boot.

[NBAGOAT]

Forgot about Powell, but that just makes it better, he will have so much space to dunk the ball when teams are chasing Dragic, Luka, Gallo and KP around the perimeter. Gonna look like prime Dwight Howard out there.

The future is bright for the Mavs, people are going to see how you can rebuild with growth and team chemistry this season.

Your best bet is a Westbrook trade to Miami in a 3 team deal. Would admittedly be fun lol

[plat1numX]

As a Raptor fan this sucks but hey atleast the Lakers got screwed along with us

[SamuraiSWISH]

Your best bet is a Westbrook trade to Miami in a 3 team deal. Would admittedly be fun lol
Trade Brick to NYC. I think he

[talkingconch]

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]Love it.

Perimeter defense is going to be absurd.

They

[Real Men Wear Green]

Good to see a legit superstar that wants to take on challenges and not just find the easiest route possible to championships. Also good to see that superstar leave the Atlantic.

[SamuraiSWISH]

No, they're not. Have you been to LA? No one cares about the Clippers. No one. We'll see how good the team will be, look forward to playing them
From a basketball perspective they should be if you live in reality and not delusion. Or the past.

[bullettooth]

No, they're not. Have you been to LA? No one cares about the Clippers. No one. We'll see how good the team will be, look forward to playing them

They are now lol.

You don't see players running to the Lakers... Perhaps Lebron's toxic presence has something to do with it.

[SamuraiSWISH]

They are now lol.

You don't see players running to the Lakers... Perhaps Lebron's toxic presence has something to do with it.
They weren

[Spurs m8]

LA battle on xmas...

[SamuraiSWISH]

Good to see a legit superstar that wants to take on challenges and not just find the easiest route possible to championships. Also good to see that superstar leave the Atlantic.
:applause:

[Meticode]

How shit does the city of Toronto have to be if you still bounce from it even after winning a championship in your first year there?
Well, he never wanted to go there anyway originally. Just because they won a championship doesn't mean you're going to want to stay. Hell, if anything it promotes him to leave because it's like "I owe you nothing now."

[Glide2keva]

Lebron fans can't be happy. They wanted to stack the deck like Lebron always does. Now they're going to have to compete, and we know he always loses when he has to compete.

This is awesome.

[Meticode]

Lebron fans can't be happy. They wanted to stack the deck like Lebron always does. Now they're going to have to compete, and we know he always loses when he has to compete.

This is awesome.
Except for that one year in 2016.

[tpols]

with PG13 this is a boss team...

probably better than what he had in toronto, but its still the wild west mate

**** i wish chef had klay still.. they couldve made it interesting

[TheMan]

:lol :lol :lol

BRONSEXUALS!

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:roll:

[TheMan]

I guess the 2017 Warriors will officially go down as the GOAT team now that Kawhi didn't choose the Lakers.
No

You don't get to "officially declare" anything...that's your opinion, and I along with many others disagree.

[tontoz]

Great move by Kawhi. Congrats to the Clippers.

Kawhi gets to play on a title contender at home without having to deal with the Lebron/Lakers drama.

[Wally450]

So Kawhi recruits Paul George to the Clippers and not a peep is made. :lol

[StrongLurk]

So Kawhi recruits Paul George to the Clippers and not a peep is made. :lol

It's because people just didn't want Lebron to win.

[DMAVS41]

So Kawhi recruits Paul George to the Clippers and not a peep is made. :lol

Different standards, but...who cares?

Leonard after this last year is a made man. He led a team to a title without an all-nba teammate and had already proved a lot during his time on the Spurs.

Called being smart. Dude hurt his direct competition now in the Lakers while getting probably the perfect player next to him.

Good luck scoring on those two guys next year in the playoffs.

[StrongLurk]

Different standards, but...who cares?

Leonard after this last year is a made man. He led a team to a title without an all-nba teammate and had already proved a lot during his time on the Spurs.

Called being smart. Dude hurt his direct competition now in the Lakers while getting probably the perfect player next to him.

Good luck scoring on those two guys next year in the playoffs.

It was an asterisk title, and having no "all-nba" teammates is nice...but it's not like his teammates played like crap. The ENTIRE Raptors team went off in the playoffs. So it doesn't matter what awards they have if the whole teams plays amazing at the most important time.

[DMAVS41]

It was an asterisk title, and having no "all-nba" teammates is nice...but it's not like his teammates played like crap. The ENTIRE Raptors team went off in the playoffs. So it doesn't matter what awards they have if the whole teams plays amazing at the most important time.

There is no such thing as an asterisk title unless half of all NBA titles or more are considered to be just that.

Leonard beat better competition start to finish than many NBA title teams did in history that you aren't going to label that way.

He's a proven championship first option and very few players in NBA history can claim that.

He's not only a first ballot HOF player, but now has a chance to climb that all time rankings.

He was smart, set himself up...now comes playing the games.

He's done just about everything right in his career so far...including standing up for himself with the Spurs

[GimmeThat]

from Clippers point, I wonder if it's a I should have just paid that guy, from Kawhi's point, it'll be interesting to see how he plays with younger players.

in short, it's an I was injured with the Spurs move

[qrich]

:rockon:

Where's AirTupac

[StrongLurk]

There is no such thing as an asterisk title unless half of all NBA titles or more are considered to be just that.

Leonard beat better competition start to finish than many NBA title teams did in history that you aren't going to label that way.

He's a proven championship first option and very few players in NBA history can claim that.

He's not only a first ballot HOF player, but now has a chance to climb that all time rankings.

He was smart, set himself up...now comes playing the games.

He's done just about everything right in his career so far...including standing up for himself with the Spurs

All that matters is that Kawhi would not have a 2019 championship ring if the Warriors (KD/Klay) were healthy.

What happened in any other season is irrelevant in regards to Kawhi having 1 ring vs 2 rings.

I'm sure Barkley/Stockton/Malone would have a ring if MJ or Pippen missed an entire finals series...but they don't.

You don't have to call it asterisk if you dont want to...but Kawhi would be at 1 ring with Durant healthy, let alone Klay.

[DMAVS41]

All that matters is that Kawhi would not have a 2019 championship ring if the Warriors (KD/Klay) were healthy.

What happened in any other season is irrelevant in regards to Kawhi having 1 ring vs 2 rings.

I'm sure Barkley/Stockton/Malone would have a ring if MJ or Pippen missed an entire finals series...but they don't.

You don't have to call it asterisk if you dont want to...but Kawhi would be at 1 ring with Durant healthy, let alone Klay.

And how many teams in NBA history wouldn't be champions if the team they played in the finals was as good as a healthy Warriors team?

Go ahead and think about that...and then realize how dumb what you are saying is.

Not to mention that Leonard led his team against two legit title caliber teams in the Sixers and Bucks just to get to the finals.

[90sgoat]

Lebron got BRANBOOZLED by Kawhi!

[StrongLurk]

And how many teams in NBA history wouldn't be champions if the team they played in the finals was as good as a healthy Warriors team?

Go ahead and think about that...and then realize how dumb what you are saying is.

Not to mention that Leonard led his team against two legit title caliber teams in the Sixers and Bucks just to get to the finals.

You are making my point, Kawhi would still be at 1 ring if not for KD going down (and Klay to an extent as well).

KD was the best player in the league last year, the reigning 2 time FMVP, and a top 6 finals performer of all time...it cannot be understated.

[DMAVS41]

You are making my point, Kawhi would still be at 1 ring if not for KD going down (and Klay to an extent as well).

First off, we don't actually know that.

But, no, I'm not making your point. You aren't applying that standard to other players/teams.

You think the 99 Spurs are beating a healthy Warriors team?

I could go on and on...very few teams in NBA history that won the title are likely beating a healthy 19 Warriors team.

So it is a non-point.

[StrongLurk]

First off, we don't actually know that.

But, no, I'm not making your point. You aren't applying that standard to other players/teams.

You think the 99 Spurs are beating a healthy Warriors team?

I could go on and on...very few teams in NBA history that won the title are likely beating a healthy 19 Warriors team.

So it is a non-point.

You are making my point. The 17-19 Warriors are stacked on top of stacked. Kawhi and the Raptors played well...but they got extremely lucky.

If not for injuries, Warriors would have 3 peated.

[bison]

Ralph lawler picked the wrong year to retire

[DMAVS41]

You are making my point. The 17-19 Warriors are stacked on top of stacked. Kawhi and the Raptors played well...but they got extremely lucky.

And other teams in NBA history that played weak ass teams in the finals got very lucky to not have to play an all time great team.

Right?

[StrongLurk]

And other teams in NBA history that played weak ass teams in the finals got very lucky to not have to play an all time great team.

Right?

You are conflating weaker rings (healthy, but weak competition) with asterisk rings (injuries to stars). Weak rings are like 99 Spurs...asterisk rings are like 2015 Warriors or 2019 Raps.

I get what you are saying, I just see things differently.

Regardless, Kawhi has always played on stacked teams and is continuing the trend on the Clips by also recruiting PG (tried to get KD). He will have his chance for more rings. Granted I'm not a "rangz" guy, but Kawhi is in a unique spot where he is underrated currently, but his career "resume" is also overrated.

[DMAVS41]

You are conflating weaker rings (weak competition) with asterisk rings (injuries to stars). Weak rings are like 99 Spurs...asterisk rings are like 2015 Warriors or 2019 Raps.

I get what you are saying, I just see things differently.

Regardless, Kawhi has always played on stacked teams and is continuing the trend on the Clips by also recruiting PG (tried to get KD). He will have his chance for more rings. Granted I'm not a "rangz" guy, but Kawhi is in a unique spot where he is underrated currently, but his career "resume" is also overrated.

As I have said before, I don't make this distinction and reject such a narrow view of things that are outside the control of a player.

And, at the end of the day, we actually don't know what would have happened.

All I know for sure is that the Leonard led Raptors beat the best team all year in the Bucks and a very dangerous Sixers team...and then won a title.

Now, if someone is arguing that the ring is as impressive as it would have been if they beat a healthy Warriors team...then I'll say of course that isn't true.

But, given the historical levels of competition in getting rings...nothing of note here. Raptors won and nothing about it should be labeled as an asterisk unless you go back and apply the same standard to every team...which nobody will.

[StrongLurk]

As I have said before, I don't make this distinction and reject such a narrow view of things that are outside the control of a player.

And, at the end of the day, we actually don't know what would have happened.

All I know for sure is that the Leonard led Raptors beat the best team all year in the Bucks and a very dangerous Sixers team...and then won a title.

Now, if someone is arguing that the ring is as impressive as it would have been if they beat a healthy Warriors team...then I'll say of course that isn't true.

But, given the historical levels of competition in getting rings...nothing of note here. Raptors won and nothing about it should be labeled as an asterisk unless you go back and apply the same standard to every team...which nobody will.

Not true...in fact a ton of people thing every ring over the last couple of years have been meaningless...some even think that all the way back since 2011.

For me, I'll always consider certain rings asterisked or weaker than others. This is because I think the "rangz" argument is overrated so I'm very picky about how much weight certain rings deserve.

[DMAVS41]

Not true...in fact a ton of people thing every ring over the last couple of years have been meaningless...some even think that all the way back since 2011.

For me, I'll always consider certain rings asterisked or weaker than others. This is because I think the "rangz" argument is overrated so I'm very picky about how much weight certain rings deserve.

Yes, rings are weaker or stronger than others. Adding in another term like asterisk is silly in my opinion.

But anyone is free to do what they want.

I don't hear anyone talking about the 99 Spurs ring or the 07 Spurs ring...

Just stupid when at the end of the day everyone is talking about competition level...and to label what the Raptors just did differently than the 09 Lakers, for example, just doesn't make sense...

The Raptors played harder competition. Why label one with an asterisk and not the other based on things outside the control of players/teams?

[LAVAR BALL]

So Kawhi:

- Won the NBA Finals in his only season in Toronto
- Make the Lakers believe he want to play for them, allowing them to screw themselves waiting for him
- Persuaded PG13 to play with him after he had been paid by OKC (a friend of PG said something like "For a quiet guy, he's a hell of a recruiter.")
- Had Raptors and Clippers have a secret war about who could trade for PG13, while having Lakers firmly believing they were champion-bound
- Finally will go home with PG as his Sidekick, and no hard feeling from anyone except dumb Lakers fans

For the last 3 month, Kawhi Leonard has been Kaiser Soze

Another thing about one year Rental:

OKC traded Dipo (Was good young player, now All-star) and Sabonis (Now Proven NBA player) for PG13. Two years later the receive Ganilari, Shai, and about 50 draft picks, after revceiving 2 years of PG13 play (including an almost MVP Worthy season)

Tor Traded Derozan, Poetl and their soul for basically a Championship.

Interesting results on short term for one and long-term (if Presti doesn't screw up his assets, which he rarely does) for the other

[BallsOut]

[QUOTE=oh the horror]Kawhi doing Kawhi things. You knew this dude was going to do some shit like this.

Laker fans, you know why this is right? That ordeal with Magic hurt them moving forward. I guarantee he didn

[tontoz]

For the last 3 month, Kawhi Leonard has been Kaiser Soze




:lol

[lakerstekkenn]

https://media2.giphy.com/media/3rgXBOmTlzyFCURutG/giphy.gif


You can't use Jack he's a diehard Laker :coleman: :coleman:

[BallsOut]

Kawhi is an idiot. He quit on the Spurs. He left a championship team to move to L.A. He talks about wanting load management, but he joins a team where he will be forced to carry most of the load.

The Clippers will still be the Clippers. Magic Johnson's plan was always to get two stars in L.A. Well, he got Lebron and AD. That's enough to win the West imo. Sure, adding Kawhi would have made the Lakers into Warriors with KD 2.0; but with Lebron + AD, the Lakers still are an incredible threat to win the championship vs anyone.

I don't see the Clippers winning anything next season. Clippers better worry about Kawhi's health and his load management before even thinking about the Lakers. Paul George is a streaky shooter at best and couldn't win shit with Westbrook and then all of a sudden demanded a trade to the Clippers. Talk about weak moves. Paul George's legacy too another hit with this move.

All in all, Lakers still favorites to win and the Clippers will still be the Clippers. Just like Paul George second fiddle to the Lakers. :oldlol:

LeBron and his bitch stans thought he could just shame his way to another easy ring, but unlike LeBron, Leonard ain't a bitch. He actually values competition unlike LeBron. LeBron stans are so mad right now. I love it. Eat shit Bron stans.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[lakerstekkenn]

We wouldn't of wanted it any other way now everyone is even and nobody has a super team, but we would've taken Kawhi in a heart beat, but going against Jerry West is tough.


Good for you Kawhi make your own legacy unlike Durant in Golden State and LebRon in Miami.


This is how it should be, BUT WE LAKERS WILL STILL WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP.
:cheers: :banana: :pimp:

[lakerstekkenn]

The only problem i have is did Kawhi sabotage the Lakers secretly by stalling, so they couldn't sign the players they wanting to to be even better.:confusedshrug: :milton

[Bosnian Sajo]

Best move for the NBA. Now you have 8 teams that no one knows who's going to win. Clippers, Lakers, Philly, Bucks, Brooklyn, Houston, Warriors, and Jazz.

Big **** you to Kawhi for sabatoging the Lakers, that's for a thread later on though.

Congrats Clipps fans, this is huge for you guys. You still got your core group plus these 2 now, unreal.

[Bosnian Sajo]

The only problem i have is did Kawhi sabotage the Lakers secretly by stalling, so they couldn't sign the players they wanting to to be even better.:confusedshrug: :milton

100%. Ramona reported last night 2 hours before the Kawhi deal, that Kawhi asked the Lakers to put a hold on the AD trade.


We could have had Brogdon on the team, or Seth Curry and Dlo.

[qrich]

100%. Ramona reported last night 2 hours before the Kawhi deal, that Kawhi asked the Lakers to put a hold on the AD trade.


We could have had Brogdon on the team, or Seth Curry and Dlo.

Kawhi could have been going to the Lakers, had the Clips not acquired George.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Kawhi could have been going to the Lakers, had the Clips not acquired George.

You're correct. Who would have thought okc would be the reasons Lakers miss out on Kawhi? God damn it

[TheMan]

The only problem i have is did Kawhi sabotage the Lakers secretly by stalling, so they couldn't sign the players they wanting to to be even better.:confusedshrug: :milton
That wasn't his intention, the delay was a result of KL asking the Clips to trade for Paul George, and when they finally got him, his decision was leaked to the press...side bonus was screwing the Lakers but that wasn't his main goal.


AD, Kuzma and LeBron is a contender but not the outright favorite had Kawhi joined them, tough shit LeStans, looks like your boy is gonna have to compete to win a title instead of cake walking to one :roll:

[Jasper]

what makes Leonard so great ??

He just won a chip with a team and then flips them off.

WELL done.

ZERO loyalty.

[DMAVS41]

what makes Leonard so great ??

He just won a chip with a team and then flips them off.

WELL done.

ZERO loyalty.

He was the main reason they won...they have an aging core...not in the United States.

Joining a better team with a better future in LA is a no brainer for about 99% of players.

[RealSkipBayless]

He was the main reason they won...they have an aging core...not in the United States.

Joining a better team with a better future in LA is a no brainer for about 99% of players.
Main reason why they won was because GS was a depleted squad. Kawhi played like shit majority of the games down the stretch. :lol

Makes sense though. Gets to avoid playing with Queen James while being on a contender.

[DMAVS41]

Main reason why they won was because GS was a depleted squad. Kawhi played like shit majority of the games down the stretch. :lol

Makes sense though. Gets to avoid playing with Queen James while being on a contender.

I'm so sick of this ****ing narrative.

The competition the Raptors faced was as good or better than most title winning teams.

Even a depleted Warriors team is better than so many shitty finals teams in NBA history.

Sixers/Bucks/Warriors...nothing easy about that at all.

The 09 Lakers had an easier path to the title...are you willing to say the same thing?

[highwhey]

i hope LeBron and AD push Kawhi

[RealSkipBayless]

I'm so sick of this ****ing narrative.

The competition the Raptors faced was as good or better than most title winning teams.

Even a depleted Warriors team is better than so many shitty finals teams in NBA history.

Sixers/Bucks/Warriors...nothing easy about that at all.

The 09 Lakers had an easier path to the title...are you willing to say the same thing?
The Raptors beat who was in front of them and that's all good. It is true that everyone benefits from luck. But it was an injured Golden state team that was battered from top to bottom. It's just reality.

There is nothing wrong with telling it like it is. 2015 was a fraudulent title of Golden state going through injured opponent after another with the Cavs getting the worst of it. 02 was a rig job to the finals and a title. About 09'? Yeah sure.

[DMAVS41]

The Raptors beat who was in front of them and that's all good. It is true that everyone benefits from luck. But it was an injured Golden state team that was battered from top to bottom. It's just reality.

There is nothing wrong with telling it like it is. 2015 was a fraudulent title of Golden state going through injured opponent after another with the Cavs getting the worst of it. 02 was a rig job to the finals and a title. About 09'? Yeah sure.

Yes, we should use the same standards for everyone...I totally agree.

However, that Warriors team they faced in the finals was still a better team than the 09 Magic...and many of the finals opponents in NBA history.

Going back to the 09 comparison...In addition, the Bucks and Sixers being a tougher combo to get through than the Rockets/Nuggets.

In fact, the Bucks were better than any team the 09 Lakers beat in their entire run.

I just think it gets old after a while...yes, certain rings are more impressive than others...no doubt the 11 Mavs ring was more impressive than this year and most others...but it takes too much accounting to start calling out some and not others.

[Charlie Sheen]

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[Mr Feeny]

Main reason why they won was because GS was a depleted squad. Kawhi played like shit majority of the games down the stretch. :lol

Makes sense though. Gets to avoid playing with Queen James while being on a contender.

The reason they won is because the best player on the planet lead them to 4 wins against the defending champions.

[Jasper]

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27131967/how-kawhi-warped-league-nba-title-chase

I can guarantee you , I will not be cheering for the Clips , even though I like the owner---

I'd probably even cheer for the Warriors before clips.

:oldlol:

[hold this L]

Best move for the NBA. Now you have 8 teams that no one knows who's going to win. Clippers, Lakers, Philly, Bucks, Brooklyn, Houston, Warriors, and Jazz.

Big **** you to Kawhi for sabatoging the Lakers, that's for a thread later on though.

Congrats Clipps fans, this is huge for you guys. You still got your core group plus these 2 now, unreal.
Jazz aren't winning, and Brooklyn is a year too early until KD gets comfortable. I'm not buying Philly either. Bucks essentially depends if
a. Giannis develops a semblance of a jumpshot outside 2 feet, or
b. The Western team making the finals is tactically capable of doing to them what the Raps did

[red1]

what makes Leonard so great ??

He just won a chip with a team and then flips them off.

WELL done.

ZERO loyalty.
we knew what we were getting into when we traded for a player who was already asking to be traded home to the lakers or clippers a year ago.

kawhi played every game of the playoffs this year and scored the third most points by any player during a playoff run ever and won us a chip. hard to be mad after that.

[sportjames23]

I actually did want Kawhi to stay in Toronto, but if this is real, I

[bluechox2]

Kawhi went from being coached by a Nurse to a Doc

[dunksby]

Kawhi went from being coached by a Nurse to a Doc
:lol

[insidehoops]

One more bump

[Lebron23]

Read http://www.insidehoops.com/nba_rumors.shtml

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wojespn
30s30 seconds ago

Free agent forward Kawhi Leonard has informed runners-up teams of his plans: He's signing with the Clippers, league sources tell ESPN.


:wtf:

And he is injured again.

[majari1234]

Pop: When’s Kawhi back?
Ty: Couple weeks, few weeks yeah.
Pop: Really?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1589097588720283648

[majari1234]

POP What a troll lol

[Spurs m8]

Pop: When’s Kawhi back?
Ty: Couple weeks, few weeks yeah.
Pop: Really?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1589097588720283648

:roll::roll::roll:

That nephew and his scumbag uncle are playing everyone

[ArbitraryWater]

:roll::roll:

[tontoz]

Haven't seen the kawhi troll here yet this season. I guess he finally gave up, or got banned.