The Lakers are 8 seed AT BEST next year

[lilteapot]

utah
denver
houston
clippers
blazers
spurs
pelicans


all better than the lakers

lol Lakers :roll:

[talkingconch]

None of those teams listed are better, I put the clippers head to head with us though for now. Denver is also a great team.

[lilteapot]

None of those teams listed are better, I put the clippers head to head with us though for now. Denver is also a great team.
you're one of those who dont believe in depth, huh?

[LoneyROY7]

None of those teams listed are better, I put the clippers head to head with us though for now. Denver is also a great team.

Laker fans.

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[ImKobe]

1. Nuggets
2. Lakers
3. Jazz
4. Warriors
5. Blazers
6. Clippers
7. Rockets
8. Spurs

edit: forgot Utah lol

[LoneyROY7]

1. Nuggets
2. Lakers
3. Warriors
4. Blazers
5. Clippers
6. Rockets
7. Spurs
8. OKC

Laker fans part duex.

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[Manny98]

1. Nuggets
2. Lakers
3. Warriors
4. Blazers
5. Clippers
6. Rockets
7. Spurs
8. OKC
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[ImKobe]

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Usually teams 4-8 are only a few games apart so anything goes in the West. Warriors were great without KD in the RS the past few years so I wouldn't rule them out of a top 3 seeding, especially once Klay returns for the 2nd part of the season. Nuggets are the deepest team so they should be favored to get the #1 seed. Lakers have the best duo in the league, James is rested, AD is about to hit his peak and we

[bluechox2]

Gotta add in Anthony’s usual minimum of 20 games injured

[kurple]

[QUOTE=ImKobe]Usually teams 4-8 are only a few games apart so anything goes in the West. Warriors were great without KD in the RS the past few years so I wouldn't rule them out of a top 3 seeding, especially once Klay returns for the 2nd part of the season. Nuggets are the deepest team so they should be favored to get the #1 seed. Lakers have the best duo in the league, James is rested, AD is about to hit his peak and we

[CakeorDeath]

[QUOTE=ImKobe]Usually teams 4-8 are only a few games apart so anything goes in the West. Warriors were great without KD in the RS the past few years so I wouldn't rule them out of a top 3 seeding, especially once Klay returns for the 2nd part of the season. Nuggets are the deepest team so they should be favored to get the #1 seed. Lakers have the best duo in the league, James is rested, AD is about to hit his peak and we

[ImKobe]

Utah was a 50 win team last year and got significantly better in the offseason, yet you don’t have them in the playoffs. They are a legit contender and easily top 4 in the West. They are deeper than the Nuggets, who you call the deepest team in the West. You’re sleeping hard on them.

Oh yeah you're right, I'll make a quick change .


Agree with a lot but you forgot Utah


Yeah, there are so many potential 50-win teams someone will miss the Playoffs by a game or two, couldn't even get to Utah before I already filled 8 out off the top of my head.

[Xiao Yao You]

[QUOTE=ImKobe]Usually teams 4-8 are only a few games apart so anything goes in the West. Warriors were great without KD in the RS the past few years so I wouldn't rule them out of a top 3 seeding, especially once Klay returns for the 2nd part of the season. Nuggets are the deepest team so they should be favored to get the #1 seed. Lakers have the best duo in the league, James is rested, AD is about to hit his peak and we

[Xiao Yao You]

[QUOTE=CakeorDeath]Utah was a 50 win team last year and got significantly better in the offseason, yet you don

[ImKobe]

Jazz aren't questionable. Exit Bricky and Favors and enter Conley and Bojan. Great defense and now great offense. Good luck! :cheers:

Completely overlooked that roster for some reason, you could make a case for 10 teams out West for the Playoffs, maybe 11 if you're a homer of one of the weaker teams.. Dallas and OKC could easily be in the Playoffs as well. 3-8 is a very tough call and some of these teams aren't done with their off-season moves yet.

It's ridiculous to say that the Lakers are 8th at best though, they have the two best players out West and both are 100% healthy right now, along with a 3rd option who should take another step forward to becoming an all-star.

[Xiao Yao You]

Completely overlooked that roster for some reason, you could make a case for 10 teams out West for the Playoffs, maybe 11 if you're a homer of one of the weaker teams.. Dallas and OKC could easily be in the Playoffs as well. 3-8 is a very tough call and some of these teams aren't done with their off-season moves yet.

It's ridiculous to say that the Lakers are 8th at best though, they have the two best players out West and both are 100% healthy right now, along with a 3rd option who should take another step forward to becoming an all-star.

Lebron is coming off the most significant injury of his career. That is rarely a good thing for an aging player. More injuries usually follow. Davis has never been healthy nor carried a team anywhere. Kawai is the best player in the world right now and he's in the other locker room. Kuzma is a long ways from an all star. He should be coming off the bench if they are smart which they aren't. They are a shitshow! :lol

[CakeorDeath]

Deeper than Denver with Dante and Mudiay fighting for the last rotation spot? :rolleyes:

Despite your insistence that everyone be a knock down shooter in order to be considered anything other than a bust, Exum has significant value as an elite perimeter defender. Jazz can throw him, Royce, and Ingles off the bench. Yes, that is contender-level depth. Mudiay will get garbage minutes only, and he was a part time starter last year. Yes, that is contender-level depth.

Jazz got rid of everyone you said needed to go and acquired your number one guy in Conley. Time to give up your “Jazz pissed in my Cheerios” Schtick and actually properly acknowledge the team that has been assembled. Also time to dump your hatred of Exum; dude has significant value, is on a bargain contact when you compare him to other guys with lockdown perimeter defense, and is only 23 years old

[Xiao Yao You]

[QUOTE=CakeorDeath]Despite your insistence that everyone be a knock down shooter in order to be considered anything other than a bust, Exum has significant value as an elite perimeter defender. Jazz can throw him, Royce, and Ingles off the bench. Yes, that is contender-level depth. Mudiay will get garbage minutes only, and he was a part time starter last year. Yes, that is contender-level depth.

Jazz got rid of everyone you said needed to go and acquired your number one guy in Conley. Time to give up your

[CakeorDeath]

Oh yeah you're right, I'll make a quick change .




Yeah, there are so many potential 50-win teams someone will miss the Playoffs by a game or two, couldn't even get to Utah before I already filled 8 out off the top of my head.

:cheers:

New list looks good. There

[Xiao Yao You]

[QUOTE=CakeorDeath]:cheers:

New list looks good. There

[ImKobe]

Lebron is coming off the most significant injury of his career. That is rarely a good thing for an aging player. More injuries usually follow. Davis has never been healthy nor carried a team anywhere. Kawai is the best player in the world right now and he's in the other locker room. Kuzma is a long ways from an all star. He should be coming off the bench if they are smart which they aren't. They are a shitshow! :lol

Bran pulled his groin, it's not like he tore a ligament or a tendon and he looked just fine coming back from it. Took his time coming back and didn't re-injure it :confusedshrug: . It's been over 6 months so if that was his only injury, we're good.

Davis played 75 games in 2017 and 2018 and only missed like 5 games after playing half a season before they shut him down due to his agent forcing him to the Lakers, he had half a season to essentially rest and deal with whatever issues he might have had, he's 100% right now and hasn't suffered any major injuries.

Kuzma averaged ~19 ppg last year and that was with his 3PT shot being off for most of the season, not bad for a sophomore player on a team where all the playmakers suffered injuries throughout the season, he has a complete scoring package, he'll definitely make an all-star team in the future.

[tpols]

only the clippers have more talent than them...

every other team you listed has less. blazers were a top seed with cj, dame, and nobody else of note... who the hell would take them over lebron and anthony davis? nobody.

If the lakers develop sufficient teamwork they should be an easy 3-4 seed.

that is a big if though...

[CakeorDeath]

Exum is an end of the bench defensive specialist who can't stay healthy. Cant shoot. Can't finish. Can't hold on to the ball. Makes 9 million a year. Mudiay put up 15 a game. That's more like a 6th man and a sprained ankle won't end his season.

Exum needs to go and probably Snyder(we'll see if he can screw this up without anyone from Duke on the roster) so no not everyone.

Not going to continue to argue Dante with you; I (and the Jazz) value him as an elite defensive wing; you don’t. Every legit contender needs lockdown guys on the perimeter; Jazz have several of those, Dante being one of them.

Mudiay being a 15 ppg scorer and part time starter last year and now being the last guy off the bench for the Jazz is a great point illustrating the Jazz’s depth, which was the topic of my post in the first place, so I’m not sure what you were going for there, other than to potentially criticize Snyder on rotation decisions that he hadn’t even made yet. My point was that the Jazz are deeper than the Nuggets; your point seems to involve why Exum needs to go. Different topic altogether.

Lastly, I’ll just say you are in a startlingly small minority in your opinion of Snyder and this Duke connection thing you reference ad nauseum is entirely a figment of your imagination. Dude is an elite NBA coach.

[Shogon]

utah
denver
houston
clippers
blazers
spurs
pelicans


all better than the lakers

lol Lakers :roll:

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The only way that even remotely ends up being true is if LeBron or AD misses a large part of the season.

[CakeorDeath]

only the clippers have more talent than them...

every other team you listed has less. blazers were a top seed with cj, dame, and nobody else of note... who the hell would take them over lebron and anthony davis? nobody.

If the lakers develop sufficient teamwork they should be an easy 3-4 seed.

that is a big if though...

Talent, yes. But like you said, big questions persist about depth, cohesion, fit, teamwork, etc., along with the not-inconsequential history LeBron has with elite bigs. They don

[Xiao Yao You]

[QUOTE=CakeorDeath]Not going to continue to argue Dante with you; I (and the Jazz) value him as an elite defensive wing; you don

[Shogon]

Talent, yes. But like you said, big questions persist about depth, cohesion, fit, teamwork, etc., along with the not-inconsequential history LeBron has with elite bigs. They don’t tend to be the piece that fits his playing style best, though admittedly, Bosh/Love were never at the level of present AD

When has LeBron ever had an elite big?

AD is so much better than Bosh or Love ever was, it's not worth discussing.

LeBron already coughed up his number for AD... and you think he's not going to make it work? haha.

[tpols]

[QUOTE=CakeorDeath]Talent, yes. But like you said, big questions persist about depth, cohesion, fit, teamwork, etc., along with the not-inconsequential history LeBron has with elite bigs. They don

[CakeorDeath]

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The only way that even remotely ends up being true is if LeBron or AD misses a large part of the season.

Which, given Lebron’s age and AD’s history, isn’t out of the question or even unlikely. I’d say it’s more likely that the Lakers lose either LeBron or AD, if not both, for a significant chunk of the season than it is that both play 75+ games. This is where the depth concern really comes into play.

The Lakers didn’t bet the farm on Kawhi, but they threw enough chips on that table that they’ll have a rough season if either AD or LeBron goes down. They won’t have the depth to keep pace in the ultra tight West while someone heals

[CakeorDeath]

Exum is an end of the bench specialist that is fragile and making too much money. Mudiay is an inefficient scorer that can't shoot or defend. Not depth. They still have 3 roster spaces open two of which might have to go to Brantley and Oni who look like they might be able to help them sometime this year. Oni is already better than Exum. Longer, and can hit an open shot.

An elite NBA coach that has had a hard time winning without Gobert on the floor. :rolleyes:

The fact that Oni has played a grand total of three summer league games and you

[NBASTATMAN]

Lakers at best a 6th seed imo.. Lebron almost has 60 k minutes on his legs and the Lakers have no other player that can break down a defense and get good shots for others. I would single team AD all day and let him get his points cuz he never gets them at crucial times in the game..

Lakers got PUNKED :oldlol:

[ImKobe]

Lakers at best a 6th seed imo.. Lebron almost has 60 k minutes on his legs and the Lakers have no other player that can break down a defense and get good shots for others. I would single team AD all day and let him get his points cuz he never gets them at crucial times in the game..

Lakers got PUNKED :oldlol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruv6bLIZL1g

He flat out manhandled Nurkic man

elite mid-range game, makes 3s, unguardable in the paint. Y'all gonna learn next year.

[Xiao Yao You]

[QUOTE=CakeorDeath]The fact that Oni has played a grand total of three summer league games and you

[senelcoolidge]

I agree. I think the lakers will barely get in if at all. AD gets hurt every year. Lebron is getting old, he will start getting nagging injuries. They still don't have a full team. They will fill that roster with has-beens, washed up vets, and g- leaguerer's.

[StrongLurk]

It all depends on health, just like last year.

If healthy, they should be around the 6th seed.

[dazzer87]

None of those teams listed are better, I put the clippers head to head with us though for now. Denver is also a great team.
delusion......:roll:

[tpols]

the impact of kawhi is becoming startling...

when he was rumored to be a laker, everybody said this would be a league crushing team, an all time dynasty type.

now without him, theyre not even playoff material?

:biggums:

is this guy the GOAT ?

[J Shuttlesworth]

Hmmm

[SouBeachTalents]

People seriously thought LeBron & AD would struggle to make the playoffs :lol Yeesh

[SouBeachTalents]

the impact of kawhi is becoming startling...

when he was rumored to be a laker, everybody said this would be a league crushing team, an all time dynasty type.

now without him, theyre not even playoff material?

:biggums:

is this guy the GOAT ?
Nah

[J Shuttlesworth]

the impact of kawhi is becoming startling...

when he was rumored to be a laker, everybody said this would be a league crushing team, an all time dynasty type.

now without him, theyre not even playoff material?

:biggums:

is this guy the GOAT ?

Holy shit. Imagine actually being as stupid as this dude.

[tpols]

only the clippers have more talent than them...

every other team you listed has less. blazers were a top seed with cj, dame, and nobody else of note... who the hell would take them over lebron and anthony davis? nobody.

If the lakers develop sufficient teamwork they should be an easy 3-4 seed.

that is a big if though...

I actually gave Lebron and AD credit lol... spot on.

And it turned out to be true. Only team in the league that could have beaten them was the Clippers.

[SouBeachTalents]

I actually gave Lebron and AD credit lol... spot on.

And it turned out to be true. Only team in the league that could have beaten them was the Clippers.
You gonna address your other post above :lol And before you say your were being facetious, you literally did claim Kawhi was the 2nd perimeter GOAT like a month ago

[tpols]

I mean Kawhi had one bad game. He averaged 28/9/6 on 120+ ORTG and elite defense for the playoffs.

What's there to take back?

It was his teammates PG13, Lou Will, and Harrell that all really shit the bed. And of course his coach who has an all time bad choking playoff resume.

[SouBeachTalents]

I mean Kawhi had one bad game. He averaged 28/9/6 on 120+ ORTG and elite defense for the playoffs.

What's there to take back?

It was his teammates PG13, Lou Will, and Harrell that all really shit the bed. And of course his coach who has an all time bad choking playoff resume.
He also showed he's not a leader and lacks the intangibles of the other ATG players. I still can't believe with his shot so off he didn't get to the FT line a single time, even Kobe knew better than that

[tpols]

He also showed he's not a leader and lacks the intangibles of the other ATG players. I still can't believe with his shot so off he didn't get to the FT line a single time, even Kobe knew better than that

I agree he's a team hopper, and skips the development process. But so is your boy Lebron lol.

You know damn well if Kawhi was playing with AD and Lebron had to play with Paul George's sorry ass, the outcomes on this season would be flipped.

[SouBeachTalents]

I agree he's a team hopper, and skips the development process. But so is your boy Lebron lol.

You know damn well if Kawhi was playing with AD and Lebron had to play with Paul George's sorry ass, the outcomes on this season would be flipped.
No way in hell does LeBron go out like that against Denver :lol And I don't dispute Kawhi & AD could've won a title together, but Kawhi would be much less beneficial for AD than LeBron due to his far inferior playmaking and leadership/intangibles

[AirTupac]

Laker fans part duex.

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You are such a dumbass retard :oldlol: The Rockets/Clippers fan who poops his pants every season ladies and gentlemen.



[QUOTE=ImKobe]Usually teams 4-8 are only a few games apart so anything goes in the West. Warriors were great without KD in the RS the past few years so I wouldn't rule them out of a top 3 seeding, especially once Klay returns for the 2nd part of the season. Nuggets are the deepest team so they should be favored to get the #1 seed. Lakers have the best duo in the league, James is rested, AD is about to hit his peak and we


Nuggets are not deep nor are they legit contenders. They will be 5th seed or worse next season.


I agree. I think the lakers will barely get in if at all. AD gets hurt every year. Lebron is getting old, he will start getting nagging injuries. They still don't have a full team. They will fill that roster with has-beens, washed up vets, and g- leaguerer's.



Good one. Thats why you are posting on ISH and not doing Pelinkas job.


delusion......:roll:


Say that again? Moron



Also fvck Kurple that dumb Denver retard. Lakers > You forever you dumbass bitchboy

[lilteapot]

My jinx worked :banana:

I will jinx your favorite team for a price.

[Basketball r Us]

Wow, Lakers really overachieved this year......unbelievable !!!

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[Lakers Legend#32]

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