Lebron started the collusion era to catch MJ, but Kawhi is better at it

[90sgoat]

You can't catch MJ ring count by colluding!

If you want to catch MJ, by doing MJ things, then you must win rangz on the same team and you must do a 3-peat. This is why Kobe is closer to MJ than Bran.

So you can't catch MJ by going for ring count by colluding. No one respects it.

What you can do, and what Kawhi is doing so expertly, is colluding to win rings on multiple teams.

What's the greatness in stacking a team and winning 2 or 3 rangz? None.

What's the greatness in winning 3 rangz and FMVP on 3 different teams? Big time.

So Kawhi gets this and next year he will have 3 rangz and 3 FMVP on 3 different teams, which will be a new metric to measure. Kawhi, like MJ, didn't walk in the footsteps of those who came before him, but created his own metric: number of FMVP on different teams.

[SpaceJam]

Imagine trying to justify colluding after all the bs y'all have put on Bron for it

:roll: :roll: :roll:

The backtracking is absolutely crazy

[ImKobe]

You can't catch MJ ring count by colluding!

If you want to catch MJ, by doing MJ things, then you must win rangz on the same team and you must do a 3-peat. This is why Kobe is closer to MJ than Bran.

So you can't catch MJ by going for ring count by colluding. No one respects it.

What you can do, and what Kawhi is doing so expertly, is colluding to win rings on multiple teams.

What's the greatness in stacking a team and winning 2 or 3 rangz? None.

What's the greatness in winning 3 rangz and FMVP on 3 different teams? Big time.

So Kawhi gets this and next year he will have 3 rangz and 3 FMVP on 3 different teams, which will be a new metric to measure. Kawhi, like MJ, didn't walk in the footsteps of those who came before him, but created his own metric: number of FMVP on different teams.

Winning rings on multiple teams is great, but how much stock do we put into his first two rings? 2014 he was a role player who had a great stretch in the Finals in expense of Lebron, 2019 the Warriors have major injuries to 4 of their key players (Iggy, Cousins, Klay, KD, heck even Looney)...

Will he catch MJ's legacy? Highly doubtful with how he's played 69 RS games in the past two years during his physical peak. He's used to playing 30-34 mpg and 60-70 games in the RS so I don't think he'll ever have that MVP season. He ain't catching MJ yet.

[90sgoat]

Winning rings on multiple teams is great, but how much stock do we put into his first two rings? 2014 he was a role player who had a great stretch in the Finals in expense of Lebron, 2019 the Warriors have major injuries to 4 of their key players (Iggy, Cousins, Klay, KD, heck even Looney)...

Will he catch MJ's legacy? Highly doubtful with how he's played 69 RS games in the past two years during his physical peak. He's used to playing 30-34 mpg and 60-70 games in the RS so I don't think he'll ever have that MVP season. He ain't catching MJ yet.

He won't catch MJ, but he has a shot at top 10, which imo is a great achievement since not even Lebron has managed to crack that.

[Akeem34TheDream]

Imagine trying to justify colluding after all the bs y'all have put on Bron for it

:roll: :roll: :roll:

The backtracking is absolutely crazy
It works both ways though, brother. You can't criticize him if you are a LeBron stan.

[Hey Yo]

He won't catch MJ, but he has a shot at top 10, which imo is a great achievement since not even Lebron has managed to crack that.
:sleeping :sleeping :sleeping

[And1AllDay]

He won't catch MJ, but he has a shot at top 10, which imo is a great achievement since not even Lebron has managed to crack that.


oh did no one tell him yet?

here ya go

https://i.postimg.cc/9M4CH92H/BronBron_1.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/rswXY210/winshares.png


mike in the modern era :

https://i.postimg.cc/V6VvZtnm/Picposr1266282o.jpg

[egokiller]

He won't catch MJ, but he has a shot at top 10, which imo is a great achievement since not even Lebron has managed to crack that.

It’s only going to be worse for lebron over time with players finding more ways to collude that is low key, thus not even popping up on anyone’s radar.

[Marchesk]

Technically Pierce, Allen and KG started it.

[egokiller]

Technically Pierce, Allen and KG started it.

Naw...too old. No one cared. Compare their total ages to Lebron/wade/bosh in 2010.

It pissed Jason Jerry off to the point where he decided he would shit all over lebron even if it meant shitting on Kobe first to get there. :applause:

[RealSkipBayless]

Neither is impressive. Lebron stacked the deck for his rings. Kawhi lucked into his.

[SpaceJam]

It works both ways though, brother. You can't criticize him if you are a LeBron stan.

Of course it does, but just the mental gymnastics these dudes are doing to justify, makes me laugh

[Shogon]

MJ doesn't have the ring count lead and he never will despite how people try to twist it.

Bill Russell is the biggest winner in the history of basketball... not just the NBA... but basketball itself.

It's improbable that we live to see a guy on that level ever again.

[Vino24]

MJ doesn't have the ring count or the stats

[tpols]

Neither is impressive. Lebron stacked the deck for his rings. Kawhi lucked into his.


they still beat the bucks and sixers... two real teams.

Lebron only ever had to beat one. If kawhi wins with LA it would validate his previous impact.

Hes better than Lebron too.

[StrongLurk]

Kawhi has no shot at top 10 all time :roll: