View Full Version : Russell Westbrook to be traded to Rockets for Chris Paul and draft picks
Nilocon165
07-11-2019, 08:30 PM
http://www.insidehoops.com/nba_rumors.shtml
And picks.
NBAGOAT
07-11-2019, 08:31 PM
morey the mad man but I dont hate it. I absolutely feel terrible as a cp3 fan
Callystarr
07-11-2019, 08:32 PM
Lmaoooo
10 turnovers per game just between them lmao.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
DMAVS41
07-11-2019, 08:32 PM
The NBA is insane.
What a great trade for the Thunder.
They saved long-term money and got 2 more picks.
And, somebody will give them something for Paul if they are willing to take on money.
Wow...
If I'm Presti...I'm calling up the Wizards and asking how much they'll give to got off Wall for Paul.
Hey Yo
07-11-2019, 08:32 PM
:coleman:
warriorfan
07-11-2019, 08:33 PM
Hahahahaha
Oh man
bluechox2
07-11-2019, 08:33 PM
Wow harden and Westbrook bricking shit and fighting each other for assists and trip doubles
Kblaze8855
07-11-2019, 08:33 PM
Soooooo......
Chris Paul is gonna be moved again or bought out. He
DMAVS41
07-11-2019, 08:36 PM
Soooooo......
Chris Paul is gonna be moved again or bought out. He’s not gonna even pretend to be willing to play his last years on a rebuilding team.
Has to be a trade....some team will be willing to take him if the Thunder take a little money back.
And the Thunder can still save money with Gallo. He's probably worth a first rounder for a contender.
If Miami wanted Russ, I can't imagine they wouldn't want Paul.
90sgoat
07-11-2019, 08:37 PM
Lebron, Rondo and Cousins for CP3 and Gallo.
Who says no?
NBAGOAT
07-11-2019, 08:37 PM
minnesota, detroit, and miami were the rumored teams for westbrook. Guess they should be rumored for cp3 now lol. None are ideal but if you're minnesota and you can do it for like wiggins+dieng/teague 2nd rounder, why not lol. You dont have to give up a great pick anymore or okogie/culver even with paul being a worse contract than westbrook. detroit less so since we've seen cp3/blake/dunker already but if it's just jackson and like snell and a 2nd rounder why not.
dazzer87
07-11-2019, 08:38 PM
cp0 WELCOME to shitty OKC...........fat ass going to finish his career in OKC........RIP
minnesota, detroit, and miami were the rumored teams for westbrook. Guess they should be rumored for cp3 now lol. None are ideal but if you're minnesota and you can do it for like wiggins+dieng/teague 2nd rounder, why not lol. You dont have to give up a great pick anymore or okogie/culver even with paul being a worse contract than westbrook. detroit less so since we've seen cp3/blake/dunker already but if it's just jackson and like snell and a 2nd rounder why not.
Nah. Houston was the favorite the whole time.
Other teams just trying to get in on the action.
imdaman99
07-11-2019, 08:40 PM
I hope Russ and Harden hold each other accountable. That's the only way they can be successful. But happy to see him go to a contender :applause:
Kblaze8855
07-11-2019, 08:40 PM
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LAmbruh
07-11-2019, 08:40 PM
Brick City :oldlol:
bigkingsfan
07-11-2019, 08:40 PM
LOL @ CP trade request, now you're in OKC with scrubs.
Proctor
07-11-2019, 08:41 PM
Houston :roll: :roll:
Bosnian Sajo
07-11-2019, 08:41 PM
Yes!! Awesome move, this will be fascinating to see how it works out.
christian1923
07-11-2019, 08:42 PM
Presti has to be one of the worst GM
qrich
07-11-2019, 08:43 PM
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bullettooth
07-11-2019, 08:43 PM
Lebron, Rondo and Cousins for CP3 and Gallo.
Who says no?
Why would Thunder want that cancerous 3/9 loser on their team? LeBron is trash.
QuebecBaller
07-11-2019, 08:44 PM
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LAmbruh
07-11-2019, 08:45 PM
https://i.gifer.com/FnxC.gif
:roll: :roll:
DMAVS41
07-11-2019, 08:45 PM
[QUOTE=christian1923]Presti has to be one of the worst GM
Smook A.
07-11-2019, 08:45 PM
**** man I really really hope this works
Wally450
07-11-2019, 08:48 PM
I love Harden and hate Westbrook. :banghead:
brooks_thompson
07-11-2019, 08:49 PM
Overheard at OKC games next year:
'Wow, re re-signed Raymond Felton!?!'
"Sit down...I have some bad new for you my man."
bluechox2
07-11-2019, 08:50 PM
Triple doubles will be down next year with both guys fighting for usage rate
imdaman99
07-11-2019, 08:50 PM
Rockets fans been shitting on Westbrook for the longest. I know it has everything to do with the MVP he won/dramatically stole in 2017 but it is what it is. I'm sure they'll welcome him if he can help them win because it looked like CP3 was done with them.
Smoke117
07-11-2019, 08:51 PM
This should prove to be an amusing disaster. :applause:
brooks_thompson
07-11-2019, 08:52 PM
What the **** are you talking about?
The haul they got for Paul George was probably twice as much as you'd get under normal circumstances.
SGA is going to be really good...Gallo is worth a first round pick to contending teams...and then they got all those other picks?
That was literally the exact opposite of what you are saying.
It was a once in a lifetime trade opportunity...:wtf:
Yeah, they pretty much made the Clippers pay for George AND Kawhi. I personally thought just Shai GA and expiring Gallinari would've been a fair trade for George. But Clips were desperate. Easiest GM decision ever for Presti...it gave him an excuse to get out of the mess he created.
SouBeachTalents
07-11-2019, 08:53 PM
Anyone else realize how insane it is that Houston now has 2 of the last 3 MVP's and they're getting clowned for it :lol I can't imagine another scenario like that in sports history
LoneyROY7
07-11-2019, 08:53 PM
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DMAVS41
07-11-2019, 08:53 PM
I can't get over this trade for the Thunder.
They got two lightly protected first round picks way out in the future and two pick swaps...
And took on a better contract on a player that might be easier to trade than Russ was.
If OKC is willing to take on some money back, which they should be now assuming Gallo is moving on, they can flip Paul for positive value.
Just remarkable what Presti has done...
PP34Deuce
07-11-2019, 08:54 PM
OKCs 30 for 30 is going to be epic
G0ATbe
07-11-2019, 08:55 PM
Hopefully we can scoop cp3 up off the buyout market come febuary for cheap:rockon:
Bosnian Sajo
07-11-2019, 08:55 PM
What the **** are you talking about?
The haul they got for Paul George was probably twice as much as you'd get under normal circumstances.
SGA is going to be really good...Gallo is worth a first round pick to contending teams...and then they got all those other picks?
That was literally the exact opposite of what you are saying.
It was a once in a lifetime trade opportunity...:wtf:
It was an amazing trade for the Thunder, people dont understand that it's better to lose and have a huge stash of picks rather than be stuck in mediocrity.
NBAGOAT
07-11-2019, 08:58 PM
I can't get over this trade for the Thunder.
They got two lightly protected first round picks way out in the future and two pick swaps...
And took on a better contract on a player that might be easier to trade than Russ was.
If OKC is willing to take on some money back, which they should be now assuming Gallo is moving on, they can flip Paul for positive value.
Just remarkable what Presti has done...
i agree but idk about paul being easier to trade. It seems like all they'll get for paul is bad contract+asset like wiggins+well protected first rounder or wall+well protected first rounder. It's perfect for rebuilding and more than I thought they would get however. Most of the team subreddit rumored for westbrooks did not want to give up more than 2 assets along with their bad contracts, usually a pick+young guy.
qrich
07-11-2019, 08:59 PM
It was an amazing trade for the Thunder, people dont understand that it's better to lose and have a huge stash of picks rather than be stuck in mediocrity.
Presti took a hard capped treadmill team and is now oozing with potential and a million pick s
RealSkipBayless
07-11-2019, 09:01 PM
I get you have peak Harden and want to make the most of it, but this is flat out idiotic
Morey knows damn well they are barely top 5 in the west. He is making moves for the sake of it now. Those pick are post Harden and WILL matter.
Presti made out like a bandit.
christian1923
07-11-2019, 09:03 PM
What the **** are you talking about?
The haul they got for Paul George was probably twice as much as you'd get under normal circumstances.
SGA is going to be really good...Gallo is worth a first round pick to contending teams...and then they got all those other picks?
That was literally the exact opposite of what you are saying.
It was a once in a lifetime trade opportunity...:wtf:
I rather have traded for actual basketball players. Shai Gili is promising but those draft picks don
DMAVS41
07-11-2019, 09:03 PM
i agree but idk about paul being easier to trade. It seems like all they'll get for paul is bad contract+asset like wiggins+well protected first rounder or wall+well protected first rounder. It's perfect for rebuilding and more than I thought they would get however. Most of the team subreddit rumored for westbrooks did not want to give up more than 2 assets along with their bad contracts, usually a pick+young guy.
I don't mean "easier" in the sense that they'll get more for him...they won't.
But not having that 4th year if they are willing to take back some bad money, which they absolutely should be...should get them at least one lightly protected pick.
And when you combine that with what they'll get for Gallo...and the fact that they already have SGA...this is just nuts.
Bosnian Sajo
07-11-2019, 09:04 PM
i agree but idk about paul being easier to trade. It seems like all they'll get for paul is bad contract+asset like wiggins+well protected first rounder or wall+well protected first rounder. It's perfect for rebuilding and more than I thought they would get however. Most of the team subreddit rumored for westbrooks did not want to give up more than 2 assets along with their bad contracts, usually a pick+young guy.
I was thinking the same thing...but then you look at a team like Miami and it doesnt seem so unrealistic.
Goran Dragic 19m expiring deal, James Johnson 15m this year 16m next, Dion 10m+, olynyk 10m+, Winslow 13m per...
They can and definitely will be motivated to get a deal done. And that's just one team.
NBAGOAT
07-11-2019, 09:04 PM
I don't mean "easier" in the sense that they'll get more for him...they won't.
But not having that 4th year if they are willing to take back some bad money, which they absolutely should be...should get them at least one lightly protected pick.
And when you combine that with what they'll get for Gallo...and the fact that they already have SGA...this is just nuts.
presti is one of the better drafters too. OKC fans should be excited unless they're dying in 5 years
DMAVS41
07-11-2019, 09:05 PM
I rather have traded for actual basketball players. Shai Gili is promising but those draft picks don’t guarantee you anything.
Shit the lakers probably would have gave you Kuzma for PG. probably coulda gotten DLO and whatever from the warriors. Nets, bucks, Etc coulda made a move. I would have waited
I don't think you understand the timeline of this franchise now...
Nor do you understand just how valuable those picks are.
Kuzma isn't even as valuable as SGA for a lot of teams because of his contract situation and won't be paid as soon as Kuzma.
DLO is not what the Thunder need...why trade for him...just to be a non playoff team?
Your logic makes no sense.
Poetry
07-11-2019, 09:07 PM
Triple doubles will be down next year with both guys fighting for usage rate
I have a solution.
http://mlb.mlb.com/images/9/0/0/107498900/samar_twttr_g2hweb3a.gif
DMAVS41
07-11-2019, 09:08 PM
I was thinking the same thing...but then you look at a team like Miami and it doesnt seem so unrealistic.
Goran Dragic 19m expiring deal, James Johnson 15m this year 16m next, Dion 10m+, olynyk 10m+, Winslow 13m per...
They can and definitely will be motivated to get a deal done. And that's just one team.
Right, I have no idea why the Heat wouldn't want Paul.
Also, the Thunder could always get the Mavs involved to take Dragic for Lee's expiring contract and a throw in or something to save even more money.
And, honestly, Paul/Butler makes more sense to me than Russ/Butler does anyway...
And the Heat will have to give up less.
But, that is if the Thunder want to make a trade that might make them better given they own their picks...other teams will want Paul imo.
Bosnian Sajo
07-11-2019, 09:10 PM
[QUOTE=christian1923]I rather have traded for actual basketball players. Shai Gili is promising but those draft picks don
NBAGOAT
07-11-2019, 09:13 PM
Gallo and sga aren't actual basketball players??
Paul/shroder
Roberson/sga
Gallo
Noel
Adams
Hypothetically speaking, if they keep this roster together, they could **** around and make the playoffs as an 8th seed.
Ah who an I kidding, probably not considering how strong the west got this offseason. But still my point stands, gallo and sga are no scrubs, plus the picks are HUGE.
You're under valuing picks.
depends on sga but that team wins over like 30 games comfortably imo. paul is still pretty damn impactful. Some people think lowry and siakam(and granted a good cast) are going be like a 45+win team 5 seed in the east. Then paul, gallo, shai, adams is going be competitive
DMAVS41
07-11-2019, 09:15 PM
depends on sga but that team wins over like 30 games comfortably imo. paul is still pretty damn impactful. Some people think lowry and siakam(and granted a good cast) are going be like a 45+win team 5 seed in the east. Then paul, gallo, shai, adams is going be competitive
I can't imagine the Thunder want to be competitive this year though.
The hidden part of trading everyone is that it improves their own pick.
NBAGOAT
07-11-2019, 09:22 PM
I can't imagine the Thunder want to be competitive this year though.
The hidden part of trading everyone is that it improves their own pick.
yea agreed. This is just a hypothetical if they cant or dont want to unload him before the season starts
christian1923
07-11-2019, 09:26 PM
I don't think you understand the timeline of this franchise now...
Nor do you understand just how valuable those picks are.
Kuzma isn't even as valuable as SGA for a lot of teams because of his contract situation and won't be paid as soon as Kuzma.
DLO is not what the Thunder need...why trade for him...just to be a non playoff team?
Your logic makes no sense.
Most of these will be late picks and guess what? Presti has been pretty bad of a drafter in recent years. Anyone could have made these moves. Taking on that Chris Paul contract??? They could have easily traded Russ for something of more value at the deadline when teams are more cap flexible without taking back that albatross of a contract. Losing your two superstars, and setting yourself back into a massive rebuild with nothing to sell the fans on. Yikes. Nobody is coming to Chesapeake to see Shai Gil.
Presti has lost KD, Harden, Oladipo, Westbrook and Paul George and all he has to show for it today is Shai Gil and hope.
Bosnian Sajo
07-11-2019, 09:28 PM
Most of these will be late picks and guess what? Presti has been pretty bad of a drafter in recent years. Anyone could have made these moves. Taking on that Chris Paul contract??? They could have easily traded Russ for something of more value at the deadline when teams are more cap flexible without taking back that albatross of a contract. Losing your two superstars, and setting yourself back into a massive rebuild with nothing to sell the fans on. Yikes. Nobody is coming to Chesapeake to see Shai Gil.
Presti has lost KD, Harden, Oladipo, Westbrook and Paul George and all he has to show for it today is Shai Gil and hope.
How can you predict that picks in 2023-2026 are going to be late picks???
christian1923
07-11-2019, 09:29 PM
How can you predict that picks in 2023-2026 are going to be late picks???
Kawhi Leonard and James Harden.
ronniec
07-11-2019, 09:31 PM
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Kobe was like, hey fvcktart... get lost :lol :lol :lol
Shogon
07-11-2019, 09:31 PM
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:roll: :roll: :roll:
Kyrie Irving is the other guy that's super sensitive about being patted on the back of the head.
Insecure about his height, I guess.
DMAVS41
07-11-2019, 09:32 PM
Most of these will be late picks and guess what? Presti has been pretty bad of a drafter in recent years. Anyone could have made these moves. Taking on that Chris Paul contract??? They could have easily traded Russ for something of more value at the deadline when teams are more cap flexible without taking back that albatross of a contract. Losing your two superstars, and setting yourself back into a massive rebuild with nothing to sell the fans on. Yikes. Nobody is coming to Chesapeake to see Shai Gil.
Presti has lost KD, Harden, Oladipo, Westbrook and Paul George and all he has to show for it today is Shai Gil and hope.
He couldn't have traded KD...if he had traded KD in 16...people like you would have been killing him. So bringing him up means nothing...
Oladipo was traded for Paul George...and Paul George became what probably amounts to one of the biggest overpays in NBA history. You simply don't understand player value if you deny this.
Westbrook was just turned into Paul and two first round picks...that are lightly protected.
You may not like it, but Presti just hit the grand slam of all grand slams this off-season given the turn of events with Paul George.
Try running a team in a market like OKC in which players don't want to play in with owners, at least during the early years, were not willing to pay up.
I have some issues with Presti in terms of not providing the shooting require to win around Russ/Durant, but what he's done the last 10 days has been amazing...
You won't find anyone that knows the NBA to agree with you. Waiting would have been the dumbest thing possible.
bigkingsfan
07-11-2019, 09:32 PM
Presti has been pretty bad of a drafter in recent years.
He might not even be the GM once the picks come into fruition.
lakerstekkenn
07-11-2019, 09:32 PM
I don't know why everyone is laughing and saying they with brick, but Westbrook gives Huston something they didn't have regularly an attacking slashing guard who can attack the basket better then CP3 and Harden.
Believe it or not but their dangerous just like before.
bluechox2
07-11-2019, 09:33 PM
rockets this year
https://i.ibb.co/LRbRTtp/66530919-10218396844728188-7252520903177666560-n.jpg
my assist, no my assist
bobopenguin
07-11-2019, 09:35 PM
rockets this year
https://i.ibb.co/LRbRTtp/66530919-10218396844728188-7252520903177666560-n.jpg
my assist, no my assist
lol.
The only one to stop harden from another MVP is russell westbrook.
lakerstekkenn
07-11-2019, 09:35 PM
If CP3 gets bought out then the Lakers should try and sign him.
Bosnian Sajo
07-11-2019, 09:35 PM
Kawhi Leonard and James Harden.
Considering how often players are switching jerseys, no one can predict shit. That and the fact that the clippers gave okc 2 Miami 1st round picks as well, surely a couple will turn into high draft picks.
1987_Lakers
07-11-2019, 09:36 PM
If CP3 gets bought out then the Lakers should try and sign him.
Don't Rondo and CP3 have beef?
Bosnian Sajo
07-11-2019, 09:36 PM
If CP3 gets bought out then the Lakers should try and sign him.
It's literally impossible unless cp3 forfeits half his salary. Think back to how hard it was for Lakers to buyout Deng....and his contract was less than HALF of cp3's.
DMAVS41
07-11-2019, 09:37 PM
Kawhi Leonard and James Harden.
Harden is going to be 31 next year...
What are the odds he's even on the Rockets then?
Given what we've seen lately...it is probably like 60% or something.
Bosnian Sajo
07-11-2019, 09:37 PM
Don't Rondo and CP3 have beef?
Hypothetically speaking (not going to happen), if cp3 got bought out and his requirement was that he doesnt wanna play with Rondo....Rondo getting his ass waived lmfao.
HylianNightmare
07-11-2019, 09:39 PM
Can't believe Houston did this
DMAVS41
07-11-2019, 09:39 PM
It's literally impossible unless cp3 forfeits half his salary. Think back to how hard it was for Lakers to buyout Deng....and his contract was less than HALF of cp3's.
Yea, I really don't see how a buyout is realistic unless literally, the entire league agrees that Paul is worthless on that contract.
And, even then, the Thunder won't be desperate to save money because they'll move Gallo and or Adams...
He'll be moved. He's still really good...
Maybe if Paul was willing to give up a huge amount of his contract...to get to the Lakers or something and Presti just does him a favor...but, hard to imagine Paul being willing to give up like 80 million plus.
lakerstekkenn
07-11-2019, 09:47 PM
This Houston team that they have now together is way better then that Thunder team that they had besides Durant.
This team is going to put fear in everyone except Lakers and Clippers.
Lakers inside game with Davis and James and Boogie will beat Huston because James will just attack the basket.
CP3 Can get bought out just like Carmelo was and he can take a pay cut and sign with La for less money and chase a ring with James.
These teams know how to get by these big contracts they can just rework something.
christian1923
07-11-2019, 09:49 PM
He couldn't have traded KD...if he had traded KD in 16...people like you would have been killing him. So bringing him up means nothing...
Oladipo was traded for Paul George...and Paul George became what probably amounts to one of the biggest overpays in NBA history. You simply don't understand player value if you deny this.
Westbrook was just turned into Paul and two first round picks...that are lightly protected.
You may not like it, but Presti just hit the grand slam of all grand slams this off-season given the turn of events with Paul George.
Try running a team in a market like OKC in which players don't want to play in with owners, at least during the early years, were not willing to pay up.
I have some issues with Presti in terms of not providing the shooting require to win around Russ/Durant, but what he's done the last 10 days has been amazing...
You won't find anyone that knows the NBA to agree with you. Waiting would have been the dumbest thing possible.
I don
lakerstekkenn
07-11-2019, 09:50 PM
Because there's no way in hell is CP3 staying and playing for the Thunder book it.
DMAVS41
07-11-2019, 09:53 PM
I don’t think you understand how valuable Russ and George with three years left are. ANYBODY could have traded for them at the deadline. These guys are in there prime man. Don’t let the media fool you into thinking Westbrook didn’t have value. Teams are just cap strung at the moment with these cap restrictions. To settle for draft picks is underwhelming IMO. He couldn’t even get Landry Shamet or Montrezl Harrell lol
Russ had neutral to slightly positive trade value...
George had real value...good news for the Thunder that they got double what would have been good value for George.
Again, find someone that agrees with you...you won't.
You aren't even understanding the situational equity for the Thunder...but even looking at it in a very narrow way...
Thunder still made out like bandits.
Also, why would the Thunder want Montrez? He doesn't fit their timeline...you'd rather have draft picks. That is what you aren't getting...they are going to be a tanking/rebuilding team around SGA for at least 2 years...you don't want players that currently add wins.
Sorry you don't like it, but this was fantastic for the Thunder from every angle.
RealSkipBayless
07-11-2019, 09:55 PM
Only reason why the PG trade was good for OKC was because they wanted to get away from the luxury anyway. Some mid and late 1st rounders for peak PG is terrible. His trade request was meaningless if OKC hadn
Smoke117
07-11-2019, 09:56 PM
Don't Rondo and CP3 have beef?
So don't get Chris Paul because a washed up Rondo might be upset about it? :oldlol:
NBAGOAT
07-11-2019, 09:58 PM
cp3 will get to the lakers but 2 years from now on a ring chasing deal lol.
DMAVS41
07-11-2019, 09:58 PM
[QUOTE=RealSkipBayless]Only reason why the PG trade was good for OKC was because they wanted to get away from the luxury anyway. Some mid and late 1st rounders for peak PG is terrible. His trade request was meaningless if OKC hadn
christian1923
07-11-2019, 10:00 PM
Russ had neutral to slightly positive trade value...
George had real value...good news for the Thunder that they got double what would have been good value for George.
Again, find someone that agrees with you...you won't.
You aren't even understanding the situational equity for the Thunder...but even looking at it in a very narrow way...
Thunder still made out like bandits.
The standings for the next 8-10 years will agree with me.
Pacers got two stud players in Sabonis and Oladipo for PG with 1 year left coming off a horrific injury. Presti got Shai Gil for PG with 3 years left coming off an mvp season.:roll: cmon dude
christian1923
07-11-2019, 10:02 PM
Considering how often players are switching jerseys, no one can predict shit. That and the fact that the clippers gave okc 2 Miami 1st round picks as well, surely a couple will turn into high draft picks.
2021 if Kawhi and PG for some reason leave they
DMAVS41
07-11-2019, 10:03 PM
The standings for the next 8-10 years will agree with me.
Pacers got two stud players in Sabonis and Oladipo for PG with 1 year left coming off a horrific injury. Presti got Shai Gil for PG with 3 years left coming off an mvp season.:roll: cmon dude
Not sure why you aren't putting the full deal out...
2021 Miami (unprotected)
2022 LAC (unprotected)
2023 Miami (top 14 prot.)
2023 pick swap
2024 LAC (unprotected)
2025 pick swap
2026 LAC (unprotected)
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Danilo Gallinari
Amazing to me that a fan hardcore enough to be on a message board thinks that is a bad deal for a team that is going to tank the next 3 years essentially.
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
07-11-2019, 10:04 PM
Harden and Brook.
Reunited.
Damn.
I'd put Harden @ point and just let Russell play the 2. Let Brook chuck like the 2-guard he always wanted to be. Houston has pretty solid depth too. I think they're as formidable as anyone tbh. Especially with GSW's depth and Klay's injury.
christian1923
07-11-2019, 10:06 PM
Not sure why you aren't putting the full deal out...
2021 Miami (unprotected)
2022 LAC (unprotected)
2023 Miami (top 14 prot.)
2023 pick swap
2024 LAC (unprotected)
2025 pick swap
2026 LAC (unprotected)
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Danilo Gallinari
Amazing to me that a fan hardcore enough to be on a message board thinks that is a bad deal for a team that is going to tank the next 3 years essentially.
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
Because all that is hope. Hope that they
DMAVS41
07-11-2019, 10:09 PM
[QUOTE=christian1923]Because all that is hope. Hope that they
FireDavidKahn
07-11-2019, 10:11 PM
Watching these dudes fight over the ball in crunch time is going to be hilarious.
NBAGOAT
07-11-2019, 10:11 PM
No, it isn't "all hope"
SGA is a legit player on a rookie contract that you can build around.
Also, you aren't understanding situational equity at all...the Thunder need to be bad for a few years...this is something that is normal...especially in small markets...
Trying to be good every year is a huge mistake in small markets that aren't free agent destinations....
that's the good thing about the rozier deal. You cant find many worse ways to waste your cap space :oldlol:
DMAVS41
07-11-2019, 10:12 PM
that's the good thing about the rozier deal. You cant find many worse ways to waste your cap space :oldlol:
:applause:
fsvr54
07-11-2019, 10:15 PM
Watch Chris Paul and the thunder being better than the Rockets. I legit can see this happening.
christian1923
07-11-2019, 10:25 PM
No, it isn't "all hope"
SGA is a legit player on a rookie contract that you can build around.
Also, you aren't understanding situational equity at all...the Thunder need to be bad for a few years...this is something that is normal...especially in small markets...
Trying to be good every year is a huge mistake in small markets that aren't free agent destinations....
Im not saying try to be a player contender. I
raprap
07-11-2019, 10:27 PM
Morey is obsessed on winning now lol we
DMAVS41
07-11-2019, 10:27 PM
[QUOTE=christian1923]Im not saying try to be a player contender. I
ReturnofJPR
07-11-2019, 10:32 PM
I don't know why everyone is laughing and saying they with brick, but Westbrook gives Huston something they didn't have regularly an attacking slashing guard who can attack the basket better then CP3 and Harden.
Believe it or not but their dangerous just like before.
QFT. Both contracts are awful but Westbrook is 4 years younger than CP3 and can drive the lane at will while harden drains 3s
christian1923
07-11-2019, 10:40 PM
You are over-rating Russ's trade value...he had neutral trade value if you aren't taking back a bad contract. So an actual good young player for Russ wasn't happening. That isn't realistic at all when you have a 4 year contract of that size for a declining player.
And, again, they don't want to be good. They want to be bad for the next couple years....or they at least should be...so draft capital is worth more to them.
Well in 2028 let me know how all those picks develop lol hopefully SGA is still there by then.
FireDavidKahn
07-11-2019, 10:42 PM
https://twitter.com/BoooooUWhore/status/1149478334780207105
:oldlol:
DMAVS41
07-11-2019, 10:42 PM
Well in 2028 let me know how all those picks develop lol hopefully SGA is still there by then.
You'd have to provide a counterfactual that makes sense.
We already know Russ/PG/Adams isn't contending in the West...especially not as Russ ages and the West gets better.
And if you agree that breaking up the team made sense...
I'll sit here waiting to hear you give me realistic trades for George/Russ that give the Thunder a better return.
Please...I'd love to hear your ideas, but I imagine you won't be able to come up with anything.
Smook A.
07-11-2019, 10:45 PM
Watch Chris Paul and the thunder being better than the Rockets. I legit can see this happening.
:kobe:
ErhnamDjinn
07-11-2019, 10:47 PM
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]Soooooo......
Chris Paul is gonna be moved again or bought out. He
SaltyMeatballs
07-11-2019, 10:47 PM
I talked shit about Westbrook for so many years and now I gotta root for him. Hope this duo works man...
RealSkipBayless
07-11-2019, 10:59 PM
Watch Chris Paul and the thunder being better than the Rockets. I legit can see this happening.
Is he good? Can he spot up?
Can the Lakers/Lebron get him?
Boogaboog
07-11-2019, 11:17 PM
QFT. Both contracts are awful but Westbrook is 4 years younger than CP3 and can drive the lane at will while harden drains 3s
Curry wouldn't even need Klay to clown these punks. :oldlol:
Wally450
07-11-2019, 11:27 PM
I talked shit about Westbrook for so many years and now I gotta root for him. Hope this duo works man...
It
Lakers Legend#32
07-11-2019, 11:32 PM
Look for the Thunder to move soon.
OKC is too small a market to support a team if it is not constantly challenging for championships.
The Curse of the Sonics is laughing it's ass off.
fsvr54
07-11-2019, 11:37 PM
https://twitter.com/BoooooUWhore/status/1149478334780207105
:oldlol:
:roll: :roll:
E_Stamkos
07-11-2019, 11:50 PM
Harden couldn't stand Paul. That's my insight.
dazzer87
07-12-2019, 12:05 AM
Houston had to get rid of cp0. It was either Harden or him and theres no way they trading harden. They found someone to take on that contract...
sportjames23
07-12-2019, 12:23 AM
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]Soooooo......
Chris Paul is gonna be moved again or bought out. He
Smoke117
07-12-2019, 12:27 AM
Watch Chris Paul and the thunder being better than the Rockets. I legit can see this happening.
If Paul manages to stay healthy the Thunder aren't entirely devoid of talent now and he has such a big impact when he's on the court that they could definitely surprise the league and make the playoffs as a 7th or 8th seed. I doubt he'd still be around, though. It serves neither the team or Paul himself to stay with OKC. This is all assuming he doesn't get traded. People acting like Paul is not gonna show up or half ass it are idiots. He's not that kind of guy. He made demand a trade, but once he's on the court he balls out, period.
Bosnian Sajo
07-12-2019, 12:29 AM
I talked shit about Westbrook for so many years and now I gotta root for him. Hope this duo works man...
Lmaoooo, oh I know EXACTLY how you feel. Same situation over here with LeBron. Still dont exactly like him, but I root for the guy. He's on my fav team.
LAmbruh
07-12-2019, 12:33 AM
https://twitter.com/BoooooUWhore/status/1149478334780207105
:oldlol:
:roll:
sportjames23
07-12-2019, 12:56 AM
https://twitter.com/BoooooUWhore/status/1149478334780207105
:oldlol:
:roll: :roll: :roll:
bladefd
07-12-2019, 02:01 AM
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]I
ArbitraryWater
07-12-2019, 02:28 AM
Most of these will be late picks and guess what? Presti has been pretty bad of a drafter in recent years. Anyone could have made these moves. Taking on that Chris Paul contract??? They could have easily traded Russ for something of more value at the deadline when teams are more cap flexible without taking back that albatross of a contract. Losing your two superstars, and setting yourself back into a massive rebuild with nothing to sell the fans on. Yikes. Nobody is coming to Chesapeake to see Shai Gil.
Presti has lost KD, Harden, Oladipo, Westbrook and Paul George and all he has to show for it today is Shai Gil and hope.
Wow, you're dumb.
nashwade
07-12-2019, 02:38 AM
will CP3 finally land in LAL?
TommyGriffin
07-12-2019, 02:45 AM
If Paul manages to stay healthy the Thunder aren't entirely devoid of talent now and he has such a big impact when he's on the court that they could definitely surprise the league and make the playoffs as a 7th or 8th seed. I doubt he'd still be around, though. It serves neither the team or Paul himself to stay with OKC. This is all assuming he doesn't get traded. People acting like Paul is not gonna show up or half ass it are idiots. He's not that kind of guy. He made demand a trade, but once he's on the court he balls out, period.
Chris Paul fans.
:yaohappy: :yaohappy: :yaohappy:
Manny98
07-12-2019, 03:02 AM
Choke brothers are born :roll: :roll: :roll:
LAVAR BALL
07-12-2019, 03:17 AM
sooo did Morey just said "**** Advanced Stats and smart Recruiting, here comes Star Power and Triple doubles" ?
BlakFrankWhite
07-12-2019, 03:21 AM
I talked shit about Westbrook for so many years and now I gotta root for him. Hope this duo works man...
We on the same fam now :cheers:
BlakFrankWhite
07-12-2019, 03:23 AM
Harden is gonna be a spot up shooter now :lol
LoneyROY7
07-12-2019, 03:24 AM
Harden is gonna be a spot up shooter now :lol
:coleman:
Harden gonna get some spot up shots playing with Russ, but he'll still lead the team in usage.
disel
07-12-2019, 05:53 AM
Watch Chris Paul and the thunder being better than the Rockets. I legit can see this happening.
Well you are obviously a moron
Akeem34TheDream
07-12-2019, 05:56 AM
Rockets should get Kevin Durant. That would be a nice core to have.
BlakFrankWhite
07-12-2019, 06:01 AM
Rockets should get Kevin Durant. That would be a nice core to have.
Russ, Jimbo and KD on the same team?..no chance something like that can ever happen.
Yup. Paul won't be in OKC for long, if at all.
And what the hell is Houston thinking? I love GOATbrook's drive, but him and Harden won't work. Bricks, turnovers and fighting over the ball is gonna doom the Rockets.
The Clippers got this. The only real threats to them are the Warriors still and, I'll admit, the Lakers.
Two different play styles. Let WB run the break, let Harden trail. WB likes to run, like CP3. Harden likes to walk it up. Problem was, CP3 couldnt even get separation from centers anymore, let alone other guards.
Unlike OKC, Houston has shooters everywhere. Everybody but Capela can knock down the open 3.
WB is going to be super dangerous if nobody can help off their man.
step_back
07-12-2019, 07:19 AM
If Westbrook and Harden can put aside the stat stuffing they could be a lethal duo next year under D'antoni. Westbrook needs to stop that defensive rebounding bullshit next year though. Let Capela or someone else grab that and outlet to him at the half court.
GimmeThat
07-12-2019, 09:18 AM
it doesn't seem like Capela is part of the Rockets future, this is a team looking similar to the ECF Raptors which they still needed size for the late championship run
as for the difference in offense for the new look Thunders? more defenders will be taught to go over the screen instead of under to test the cohesiveness of the team
Wally450
07-12-2019, 09:23 AM
Russ, Jimbo and KD on the same team?..no chance something like that can ever happen.
I bet KD is already thinking about his next move going to Houston to join those guys in a title run they missed out on.
BigTicket
07-12-2019, 09:44 AM
I don't understand this trade for the Rockets at all. They don't save any money, they have to give away a lot of picks, and Westbrook is a worse fit next to Harden than Paul is.
I know that Harden and Paul had their differences, but at least Chris Paul could shoot and defend, while Westbrook can't do either.
Westbrook can be a great player if he has the ball, but I don't think he will do well in Houston's playing style.
DMAVS41
07-12-2019, 09:58 AM
I don't understand this trade for the Rockets at all. They don't save any money, they have to give away a lot of picks, and Westbrook is a worse fit next to Harden than Paul is.
I know that Harden and Paul had their differences, but at least Chris Paul could shoot and defend, while Westbrook can't do either.
Westbrook can be a great player if he has the ball, but I don't think he will do well in Houston's playing style.
It is a trade to just change things up and a bet that Russ is going to be a lot better over the next 3 years than Paul.
I think the Thunder won the trade, but if Morey somehow adds one more rotation player that makes sense...and the Rockets win a title...we'll all think differently of course.
But, yea...give me the shorter contract and two lightly first round picks over Russ right now.
Turbo Slayer
07-12-2019, 10:06 AM
Westbrick and an aging Chris Paul? This about to be ugly. Feels bad for Rocket fans, tbh.
Marchesk
07-12-2019, 12:29 PM
Westbrick and an aging Chris Paul? This about to be ugly. Feels bad for Rocket fans, tbh.
:coleman:
bdonovan
07-12-2019, 03:08 PM
got this from Stathead:
Both players have finished the last 3 seasons with a usage percentage (an estimate of the percentage of team plays used by a player while he was on the floor) above 30%, so it'll be interesting to see how their games integrate. In fact, Harden finished last year with the second-highest usage percentage since 1978, only trailing the record Westbrook set in 2017.
Quantifies what I think everyone suspected may be a problem w/these two on the same team. (not to mention Westbrook's memory of Harden being a jr. partner as a rookie in OKC).
tpols
07-12-2019, 03:32 PM
So Chris Paul was grilling harden on his monopolizing, stat stuffing, and inept effort performing the intangibles... And now they brought in Russell Westbrook.
:roll:
Ultimate enabler they will be in heaven together.
Celtics 1825
07-12-2019, 05:06 PM
2 career playoff chokers together? Joy :lol :lol
Get ready for 70 win regular season followed by second round playoff exit.
bison
07-12-2019, 05:46 PM
https://i.ibb.co/b6bYRBV/Capture.jpg
NBAGOAT
07-12-2019, 07:50 PM
i saw this somewhere. Is capela for marc gasol doable for hou. I think tor would have some interest in that too
bigkingsfan
07-12-2019, 09:37 PM
i saw this somewhere. Is capela for marc gasol doable for hou. I think tor would have some interest in that too
Why? They're about to do a full rebuild after the season.
Houston would do it for sure.
NBAGOAT
07-12-2019, 10:07 PM
Why? They're about to do a full rebuild after the season.
Houston would do it for sure.
They can retool building around siakam. Don
Im so nba'd out
12-26-2021, 10:24 PM
Choke brothers are born :roll: :roll:
:milton
tell us how u really feel you benedict arnold :roll:. if you hate harden stay on that side, dont flip when he joins ur team u piece of crap :oldlol:
Proctor
12-26-2021, 10:35 PM
:milton
tell us how u really feel you benedict arnold :roll:. if you hate harden stay on that side, dont flip when he joins ur team u piece of crap :oldlol:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500187-Are-the-Nets-clear-cut-Championship-favorites-at-this-point&p=14499178&viewfull=1#post14499178
Manny has mindfvcked you :oldlol:
1987_Lakers
12-26-2021, 10:39 PM
If Paul manages to stay healthy the Thunder aren't entirely devoid of talent now and he has such a big impact when he's on the court that they could definitely surprise the league and make the playoffs as a 7th or 8th seed. I doubt he'd still be around, though. It serves neither the team or Paul himself to stay with OKC. This is all assuming he doesn't get traded. People acting like Paul is not gonna show up or half ass it are idiots. He's not that kind of guy. He made demand a trade, but once he's on the court he balls out, period.
This dude ended being 100% right on that OKC team. Smoke might have been a crazy drunk, but he was still smarter than most.
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