I'm back like Magic in 92' to get a few things off my chest

[3ball]

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1) Clutch Sports and their "empowerment" narrative

Clutch Sports has the media calling Lebron's legacy one of "player empowerment", which cunningly hides the common knowledge that he "colluded", "teamed up", ruined real competition", and many other sayings that have been invented due to Lebron's actions..

So don't be fooled .. Player "empowerment" = hurting real competition and shortcuts.. that's lebron's legacy and Adam Silver is realizing this now...



2) The "Finals comp" mind trick

By virtue of winning, nearly all Finals winners of the 00's like Shaq's Lakers, Shaq's Heat, Duncan's Spurs, and the Warriors all faced "weak" Finals comp.. Yet no one got 6 rings or 6 fmvp's.. i.e. if Durant's Warriors 3-peated twice and he won 6 MVP's, he would be goat with MJ and it wouldn't matter that he was facing weak comp or an all-time weak East.

Ultimately, complaining about comp excuses losers for not having a better team that wins.. i.e. why did Lebron's big 3 only win 57 and 51 games in 2016/2017, instead of flirting with 70 like Kawhi and Curry?.. I understand that he won the ring in 16', but if he had a 68-win juggernaut like Kawhi, it wouldn't be labeled an upset - the team also would've been juggernaut-ish heading into 17', regardless of Durant's actions.. But instead, they followed up their 57-win "upset" team with 51 wins and big underdog status again in 17'.

Basically, MJ only had juggernaut, warriors-level teams with the kind of teams that lebron had from 11-18'.. it's on lebron for not fielding those same level teams that could consistently win championships.. ultimately, everyone knows he employs a far different style than the teams that routinely beat him (Spurs/Warriors), so he should be knocked for employing the inferior style and not winning, instead of complaining about "comp"

TLDR: by virtue of winning, Finals winners face "weak" Finals comp and it's on Lebron for failing to field these kind of juggernauts that mostly win in the Finals..



3) The actual "comp"

Lebron played in the super-team era, so he faced 3-star teams with 3-stars, while MJ faced 2-star teams with 2 star teams.. that alone negates the whole "comp" argument... and yes - the KD Warriors had 4 stars, but MJ faced 5 HOF's on the 80's Celtics... There's simply no spot where Lebron is playing better comp that mj didn't face.

People seem to forget that the Bad Boys beat the Celtics/Lakers and were 2-1 in the Finals - they're better than Curry's Warriors, who are 1-2 in the Finals and 8-10 in Finals games without KD.. So MJ has a signature win over the Pistons just like Lebron has over Curry's Warriors.. Lebron also faced KD's Warriors, but they beat Lebron's high seeds by record amount, which is offset by Bird's Celtics beating MJ's 8 seeds by less.. Again, there's no spot where Lebron is playing better comp that mj didn't face... Lebron simply lost to weaker teams that MJ never lost to, like Dwight's Magic, Dirk's Mavs, or the 10' Celtics.. And he fielded much weaker teams in 11', 17', and 14' than MJ did with that much help

Btw, Lebron mostly lost to the Spurs, Warriors, and Mavs - his wins are one-off's - if one-offs catapult a player, then Dirk should be way higher, at least top 15 all-time
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[Gus Hemmingway]

You left for 2 days...


Couldn’t hold back your LeBron obsession huh?

[Hey Yo]

dumb

[3ball]

[/LIST]
You left for 2 days...


Couldn’t hold back your LeBron obsession huh?
There's still some pretty bad misperceptions out there

But the OP shatters the mind tricks and backwards logic that Clutch Sports has out out there, just for the record...

I mean goddamn they got a guy to be ranked #2 all-time who lost 6 times in the championship and isn't a knock-down shooter or elite on the post or off-ball... And he teamed up with stars 3 times... :eek: ... :biggums:

Either broussard and his kind are really dumb and gullible, or Clutch Sports is really smart in manipulating them... It's obviously both...

[Uncle Drew]

Lmao, pathetic wimp.

[Trollsmasher]

OP has a willpower of a fatass in Burgerking

[3ball]

Lmao, pathetic wimp.
OP shatters the mind tricks and backwards logic that Clutch Sports has out out there, just for the record...

they got a guy to be ranked #2 all-time who lost 6 times in the championship and isn't a knock-down shooter or elite on the post or off-ball... And he teamed up with stars 3 times... :eek:

Either broussard and his kind are really dumb and gullible, or Clutch Sports is really smart in manipulating them... It's obviously both...

[1987_Lakers]

:facepalm

[stalkerforlife]

Another one.

Can he lose?

[Uncle Drew]

OP shatters the mind tricks and backwards logic that Clutch Sports has out out there, just for the record...

they got a guy to be ranked #2 all-time who lost 6 times in the championship and isn't a knock-down shooter or elite on the post or off-ball... And he teamed up with stars 3 times... :eek:

Either broussard and his kind are really dumb and gullible, or Clutch Sports is really smart in manipulating them... It's obviously both...
Got to be honest, I didn't even notice you were gone. Not being able to keep your word is an insult to your own persona itself, but this forum goes on the exact same whether you're active here or not. That is a painful observation. Your posts mean nothing to this forum apparently.

[red1]

OP is a bitch knocked him out so many times he just keeps coming back and I just keep knocking him out



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ZeroBalls already admitted that he lives vicariously through jordan because he's a babydikk bitch in real life :eek:

[RealSkipBayless]

Did we ever get an answer on who was the greatest team MJ faced in the finals?

[jstern]

I just heard this question in the Lakers Anthony Davis press conference, and this whole new "Player Empowerment" nonsense is so cringe.

https://youtu.be/EPrcWpNqHZ8?t=1295

[superduper]

OP is literally unbreakable

[3ball]

Got to be honest, I didn't even notice you were gone. Not being able to keep your word is an insult to your own persona itself, but this forum goes on the exact same whether you're active here or not. That is a painful observation. Your posts mean nothing to this forum apparently.
you're insecure about that???.... :wtf: .. :facepalm

[Kblaze8855]

I can

[Smoke117]

What'd I say? A week tops. He couldn't even last half of that, though. :oldlol:

[Shogon]

I was wrong. You didn't come back the next day... it was the day after...

:roll:

[3ball]

Did we ever get an answer on who was the greatest team MJ faced in the finals?
Maybe the team that Shaq and Duncan cut their teeth on, or maybe the team that played the bulls to a statistical standstill despite career Finals highs from the goat, Pippen, and Grant

And who was Curry, Duncan or Shaq's best team they faced in the Finals

Btw, did we ever get an answer on when lebron faced an Eastern opponent like the Bad Boys?... He never faced that kind are of talent/skill deficit until he ran into the warriors, where he went 1-3 with his Big 3's, just like MJ did with his Big 1's

[warriorfan]

Back like Magic in 92?....

Does that mean Op has AIDS? :wtf:

[Smoke117]

Back like Magic in 92?....

Does that mean Op has AIDS? :wtf:

We can only hope.

[Shogon]

Back like Magic in 92?....

Does that mean Op has AIDS? :wtf:

:roll:

It also means he was getting ****ed in the ass by a plethora of guys in his previous posting days.

And that everything he's going to continue posting on social media is going to be nonsensical bullshit.

[red1]

OP was the angry 5-foot midget who couldn't get a date and now he's back on insidehoops.

[3ball]

I can’t believe you didn’t go with “When I come back like Jordan wearing the 45 it ain’t to play games with you. Its to aim at you probably maim you. If I owe you I’m blowing you to smithereens ********** take one for your team and I need you to remember one thing. I came I saw I conquered.


^

I didn’t want to post all that but I couldn’t believe my speech to text got all that right.
Why make the same mistake MJ did

(I know one of you guys killed his dad to stop him from breaking Russell's consecutive ring record)

[Kblaze8855]

I saw an interview with Hakeem yesterday where he was laughing at the idea that Jordan wasn

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

3ball thinking hes #45 MJ...Ole boy would be lucky being Yoda Mike circa Washington.

:oldlol:

Welcome back. Although I know who your main is, so you never really left anyway. Been posting here long enough to know that much.

[red1]

hakeem is a legend. baldan ducked that one that's for sure. dream would've shit all over baldan's bald head.

[NBAGOAT]

3ball thinking hes #45 MJ...Ole boy would be lucky being Yoda Mike circa Washington.

:oldlol:

Welcome back. Although I know who your main is, so you never really left. Been posting here long enough to know that much.

Someone enlighten me on this since a few people seem to know his main. I have some candidates but not sure at all. It

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Someone enlighten me on this since a few people seem to know his main. I have some candidates but not sure at all. It’s not obvious like it is with Simon

I called him out on it years ago.

But he's still my boy.

And I won't use this thread to do that. I'll just say he's another Jordan fan....whose fandom knows no bounds. KBlaze gave him away mentioning that he deletes and reposts :oldlol:

[Kblaze8855]

https://youtu.be/Oq0ZT1UdIPM


That

[Shogon]

The Magic should have beaten those Rockets.

They were the vastly superior team were it not for the pressure of the moment.

Orlando was just too immature. That's all it boils down to.

[SouBeachTalents]

I called him out on it years ago.

But he's still my boy.

And I won't use this thread to do that. I'll just say he's another Jordan fan....whose fandom knows no bounds. KBlaze gave him away mentioning that he deletes and reposts :oldlol:
Clipperrevival would be my guess

[warriorfan]

:roll:

It also means he was getting ****ed in the ass by a plethora of guys in his previous posting days.

And that everything he's going to continue posting on social media is going to be nonsensical bullshit.

:lol :lol

Sounds like he has a few things he needs to

[NBAGOAT]

Clipperrevival would be my guess

Idts actually. The clue about reposting gives me a decent idea

[TheMan]

OP is a bitch knocked him out so many times he just keeps coming back and I just keep knocking him out



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ZeroBalls already admitted that he lives vicariously through jordan because he's a babydikk bitch in real life :eek:
Bro, I'm being serious with you when I say that you are always talking about punching people means either of two things...you are either a soft pushover IRL and you overcompensate for your beta ways here or you really are a violent thug and a danger to society.

Which is it?

[Kblaze8855]

Of course he didn

[Manny98]

https://media.giphy.com/media/l4Ki2obCyAQS5WhFe/giphy.gif

[3ball]

Of course he didn’t say he was there for a full season. He said he was there. All he technically got wrong was who we played in the first round.
His implication is that it was an even playing field

It was obviously not


Unlike Lebron, MJ's ability to win wasn't exclusively a function of having sufficient surrounding talent

MJ used teamwork to win as much as supporting talent....... and the 17 games he got after nearly 2 years off with all new teammates (except Scottie) wasn't nearly enough to generate the teamwork he typically used to win championships

So no, Hakeem is wrong.. MJ wasn't there for a full season, or anywhere near what could be considered an even playing field..

Btw, the interchangeable nature of MJ's teammates shows the level of teamwork MJ had.. of course, Phil Jackson was assistant to Doug Collins and saw that the triangle would work for MJ's off-ball game .. whereas no coach would ever think the triangle or a spurs-like system would work for lebron

[3ball]

Maybe the team that Shaq and Duncan cut their teeth on was MJ's best Finals opponent, or maybe the team that played the bulls to a statistical standstill despite career Finals highs from the goat, Pippen, and BJ

And who was Curry, Duncan or Shaq's best team they faced in the Finals? Would it matter if any of them had 6 rings?

Btw, did we ever get an answer on when lebron faced an Eastern opponent like the Bad Boys?... He never faced that kind are of talent/skill deficit until he ran into the warriors, where he went 1-3 with his Big 3's, just like MJ did with his Big 1's vs the Pistons


^^^ Hope that was a good enough answer for you skip

Maybe one day you'll grow a pair and answer my questions

[StrongLurk]

OP is lucky the "internet" was developed...otherwise he'd be in a psyche ward mumbling something something MJ...something something GOAT.

[Smoke117]

I called him out on it years ago.

But he's still my boy.

And I won't use this thread to do that. I'll just say he's another Jordan fan....whose fandom knows no bounds. KBlaze gave him away mentioning that he deletes and reposts :oldlol:

Shut up, moron. Everyone knows you are a Jordan stan. You try to act like your opinions are objective, but your stanning leaves you bleeding out.

[SouBeachTalents]

OP is lucky the "internet" was developed...otherwise he'd be in a psyche ward mumbling something something MJ...something something GOAT.
Internet or not, he should still be there

[3ball]

OP is lucky the "internet" was developed...otherwise he'd be in a psyche ward mumbling something something MJ...something something GOAT.
The true story and reasons that lebron is only 3/9 must exist somewhere

They can't be a secret or mystery

Do you think that 1989 assistant coach Phil Jackson would watch a young lebron and think "yeah, the ball movement triangle could fit Lebron's game and he has the right skills to make it work... If i get a chance to run this ship, i'm instituting that offense"

Because that's what Phil thought about Michael - whereas none of Lebron's coaches thought that about Lebron - blatt tried to force the issue with a system once and got axed

Face it - the Spurs/Warriors/90's bulls = goat basketball...... Lebron can't play this way and mostly loses to this brand.. so not top 2.. top 2 is ridiculous

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Shut up, moron. Everyone knows you are a Jordan stan. You try to act like your opinions are objective, but your stanning leaves you bleeding out.

I don't even have to mention Lebron, and your estrogen levels are still rampant :oldlol:

[NBAGOAT]

The true story and reasons that lebron is only 3/9 must exist somewhere

They can't be a secret or mystery

Do you think that 1989 assistant coach Phil Jackson would watch a young lebron and think "yeah, the ball movement triangle could fit Lebron's game and he has the right skills to make it work... If i get a chance to run this ship, i'm instituting that offense"

Because that's what Phil thought about Michael - whereas none of Lebron's coaches thought that about Lebron - blatt tried to force the issue with a system once and got axed

Face it - the Spurs/Warriors/90's bulls = goat basketball...... Lebron can't play this way and mostly loses to this brand.. so not top 2.. that's ridiculous

So lebron played against goat basketball in 6 finals and mj never played against that brand of basketball. I think you

[3ball]

So lebron played against goat basketball in 6 finals and mj never played against that brand of basketball. I think you’ve shot down your own criticisms :oldlol:
I just named 3 examples but a lot of teams play goat brand

From the 90's jazz to the 11' Mavs, to the 19' raptors and many more

[SomeBlackDude]

https://i.postimg.cc/K8yVGLtW/6599415986477574328.jpg

https://sports.cbsimg.net/images/visual/whatshot/jordanfax.jpg

:bowdown:

[red1]

Bro, I'm being serious with you when I say that you are always talking about punching people means either of two things...you are either a soft pushover IRL and you overcompensate for your beta ways here or you really are a violent thug and a danger to society.

Which is it?
it's called a sense of humor? I'm only doing it to entertain myself and I only troll posters who are full of shit - like 3ball. :confusedshrug: :oldlol:



I know reading my posts triggers PTSD for you because I've corrected you so many times. no worries though I don't have anything against you my mexican friend.

[RRR3]

I called him out on it years ago.

But he's still my boy.

And I won't use this thread to do that. I'll just say he's another Jordan fan....whose fandom knows no bounds. KBlaze gave him away mentioning that he deletes and reposts :oldlol:
You must surely be referring to SamuraiSwoosh/Swish

[aau]

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]I can

[aau]

So lebron played against goat basketball in 6 finals


anyone care to explain what this means


thanks, pardon the interruption

[SomeBlackDude]

anyone care to explain what this means


thanks, pardon the interruption

you're welcome (https://youtu.be/RlwlV4hcBac?t=16)

[NBAGOAT]

anyone care to explain what this means


thanks, pardon the interruption

Hey I

[sdot_thadon]

https://i.postimg.cc/Wdfm1sMd/tenor.gif (https://postimg.cc/Wdfm1sMd)

Op tried to kick it.:oldlol:

[Smoke117]

I don't even have to mention Lebron, and your estrogen levels are still rampant :oldlol:

Cringe. If you are going to address me at least to do it in a semi amusing way. Get that clockwork you call a brain working a bit, home boy.

[Shogon]

https://i.postimg.cc/Wdfm1sMd/tenor.gif (https://postimg.cc/Wdfm1sMd)

Op tried to kick it.:oldlol:

QFT

[3ball]

Lebron's legacy will also one of weaponizing losing and garnering sympathy for his underdog status, instead of getting knocked for not achieving the best teams of his era and favorites/dynasties like his peers..

When Harden loses with cp3, the narrative is that "well, harden's 35/6/9 on 59% ts is nice, but he's just a bum for losing".... Ditto when MJ lost from 86-90'.. or when KD lost with Westbrook or vice versa - these guys "just weren't good enough", whereas Lebron's losses with super-teams are weaponized as carry-jobs with outmatched or underperforming teams and serve to enhance his legacy.... It's a joke

[RRR3]

Lebron's legacy will also one of weaponizing losing and garnering sympathy for his underdog status, instead of getting knocked for not achieving the best teams of his era and favorites/dynasties like his peers..

When Harden loses with cp3, the narrative is that "well, harden's 35/6/9 on 59% ts is nice, but he's just a bum for losing".... Ditto when MJ lost from 86-90'.. or when KD lost with Westbrook or vice versa - these guys "just weren't good enough", whereas Lebron's losses with super-teams are weaponized as carry-jobs with outmatched or underperforming teams and serve to enhance his legacy.... It's a joke
You’re addicted to LeBron. Couldn’t last a week without spamming the forum with your obsession. “Retired” doe :yaohappy:

[3ball]

[QUOTE=RRR3]You

[RRR3]

When Harden loses with cp3, the narrative is that "well, harden's 35/6/9 on 59% ts is nice, but he's just a bum for losing".... Ditto when MJ lost from 86-90'.. or when KD lost with Westbrook or vice versa - these guys "just weren't good enough", whereas Lebron's losses with super-teams are weaponized as carry-jobs with outmatched or underperforming teams and serve to enhance his legacy.... It's a joke
Lmao no actual response to my post so you just desperately copy and paste.






“Retired” doe










:yaohappy:

[FKAri]

Condolences on catching the AIDS, OP. Alas LeGod despises phaggitry and thus the misfortune is well earned.

[3ball]

[QUOTE=RRR3]Lmao no actual response to my post so you just desperately copy and paste.

[RRR3]

I'm obsessed with how the media misuses the term usage and thinks it's ball-dominance.. And other dumb errors like thinking losing > winning and getting 35 ppg in 12 minutes hold-time (Bron) > getting it in 5 (Kawhi)

But sure, you can call it lebron if you want
Why couldn’t you stay “Retired”, bro?


Are you that addicted to LeBron? :(

[Vino24]

OP played in AAU :applause:

[Mr Feeny]

Welcome back 3ball:applause:

[And1AllDay]

[QUOTE=Gus Hemmingway]You left for 2 days...


Couldn

[E_Stamkos]

Never retire

[guy]

.


2) The "Finals comp" mind trick

By virtue of winning, nearly all Finals winners of the 00's like Shaq's Lakers, Shaq's Heat, Duncan's Spurs, and the Warriors all faced "weak" Finals comp.. Yet no one got 6 rings or 6 fmvp's.. i.e. if Durant's Warriors 3-peated twice and he won 6 MVP's, he would be goat with MJ and it wouldn't matter that he was facing weak comp or an all-time weak East.

Ultimately, complaining about comp excuses losers for not having a better team that wins.. i.e. why did Lebron's big 3 only win 57 and 51 games in 2016/2017, instead of flirting with 70 like Kawhi and Curry?.. I understand that he won the ring in 16', but if he had a 68-win juggernaut like Kawhi, it wouldn't be labeled an upset - the team also would've been juggernaut-ish heading into 17', regardless of Durant's actions.. But instead, they followed up their 57-win "upset" team with 51 wins and big underdog status again in 17'.

Basically, MJ only had juggernaut, warriors-level teams with the kind of teams that lebron had from 11-18'.. it's on lebron for not fielding those same level teams that could consistently win championships.. ultimately, everyone knows he employs a far different style than the teams that routinely beat him (Spurs/Warriors), so he should be knocked for employing the inferior style and not winning, instead of complaining about "comp"

TLDR: by virtue of winning, Finals winners face "weak" Finals comp and it's on Lebron for failing to field these kind of juggernauts that mostly win in the Finals..
.

Pretty spot on with this.

[aau]

huh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC64ScarWX4

[clipps]

Op's suicide attempt failed again. What a retard.

[RRR3]

Op's suicide attempt failed again. What a retard.
Don’t joke about suicide dude.

If OP was actual suicidal I would hope ISH would give him support and help.

[Real14]

How about Magic in 96?