Klans robes Donny at it again

[RRR3]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1029676




:facepalm

[ItsMillerTime]

I agree, they should go to the country they came from and fix government corruption. Even better, they should get elected by the public so their efforts are easier.

[highwhey]

incoming trump supporters:

[Prometheus]

which part was racist?

[RRR3]

[QUOTE=highwhey]incoming trump supporters:[B]

[Shogon]

which part was racist?

[tpols]

Racist has lost its meaning... Boy who cried wolf.

[dude77]

:oldlol: trump has no fks to give .. no filter .. that's why we love him

[stalkerforlife]

:oldlol: trump has no fks to give .. no filter .. that's why we love him

Tired of the fake political jargon.

Libs say the cookie cutter things and then slit your throat when no one is watching.

[rufuspaul]

Xenophobic? Inaccurate? Mean? All those words apply but I don't see how that can be called racist.

[bladefd]

Xenophobic? Inaccurate? Mean? All those words apply but I don't see how that can be called racist.

Trump is a bat$hit narcissistic scumbag. Plain and simple, nothing more nothing less. You can say what you want about his politics, but he is not worthy of respect as a human being. He is lower than dirt.

[Dr Seuss]

Xenophobic? Inaccurate? Mean? All those words apply but I don't see how that can be called racist.

xenophobic is within the racist family tree. not saying what he said is racist, but for you to suggest it is xenophobic and then follow that up with "how can that be called racist" is a bit... perplexing.

[rufuspaul]

xenophobic is within the racist family tree. not saying what he said is racist, but for you to suggest it is xenophobic and then follow that up with "how can that be called racist" is a bit... perplexing.


Only if one's fear and dislike of foreigners is based on race.

[Patrick Chewing]

[QUOTE=highwhey]incoming trump supporters:

[tpols]

That Charlottesville guy got life plus 419 years.

:biggums:

[Lakers Legend#32]

Trump's most blatant obvious racist statement yet.

[MaxFly]

Pretty vile diatribe by Trump, but nothing particularly new or unexpected, unfortunately. Basically his logic is that criticizing him and the country as an American citizen is anti-American... forget that he heavily criticized the country and the previous President only a few short years ago.

His statements are being construed as racist because they're focused specifically on women of color, basically telling them to go back to their s-hole countries. Where is someone like Ayanna Pressley supposed to go; her family has been in the US longer than Trump's... likely dating back to the slave trade. Which terrible country should she go back to? Is Trump telling her to go back to Africa? Yeah...

[highwhey]

Pretty vile diatribe by Trump, but nothing particularly new or unexpected, unfortunately. Basically his logic is that criticizing him and the country as an American citizen is anti-American... forget that he heavily criticized the country and the previous President only a few short years ago.

His statements are being construed as racist because they're focused specifically on women of color, basically telling them to go back to their s-hole countries. Where is someone like Ayanna Pressley supposed to go; her family has been in the US longer than Trump's... likely dating back to the slave trade. Which terrible country should she go back to? Is Trump telling her to go back to Africa? Yeah...
ding ding ding

trump supporters have low IQ unfortunately so they are unable to make that basic leap of logic to realize this, and those that realize this chose to ignore it bc "fvck liberals".

it's such a childish retort as well. "uhh i don't have anything intelligent to say so i will attack your background"

trump supporters swallow it like their daughters swallow bbc :oldlol:

[Patrick Chewing]

Being construed as racist and actually being racist are two totally different things, Alan.

You talk about Trump supporters having low IQ, but it’s the other way around if Trump haters such as yourself can’t tell the difference between an offensive comment and a racially charged one.

[Hawker]

Damn - so those times that I was told to go back to America by a white Australian, they were being racist?

Learn something new everyday. Highwhey getting triggered by Trump.

Even Nancy Pelosi is being called a racist.

I think Trumps end goal here is to make these four the face of the party (which they are) as they are viewed quite unfavorably by the swing voters apparently.

[MaxFly]

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]Being construed as racist and actually being racist are two totally different things, Alan.

You talk about Trump supporters having low IQ, but it

[Patrick Chewing]

A white person practically telling people of color to go back to Africa is both offensive and pretty racially charged. The real problem isn't with Trump supporter's IQ, though... it's with his. Seems that he is ignorant of the fact that critique of your country is one of the most patriotic things you can do as a citizen. He had to know he isn't going to win a twitter war with these individuals.


Why are you lying? He never uttered those words to go back to Africa or anything of the sort.


Those 4 individuals are as unpatriotic as they come. No one honestly thinks they have the best for this country in mind.

[MaxFly]

Damn - so those times that I was told to go back to America by a white Australian, they were being racist?


Well that's a laughably bad comparison. :oldlol:

Just to be clear, Trump is telling a bunch of minority women, all of whom are Americans, most of whom were born in the United States of America, to go back to the terrible countries from whence they came. Which country is Ayanna Pressley going to go back to? Is Trump telling her to go back to Africa even though her ancestors, likely brought over on slave ships, have been here longer than his family has?

[highwhey]

Why are you lying? He never uttered those words to go back to Africa or anything of the sort.


Those 4 individuals are as unpatriotic as they come. No one honestly thinks they have the best for this country in mind.
this is where the outrage comes from.

[MaxFly]

Why are you lying? He never uttered those words to go back to Africa or anything of the sort.

I'm going to highlight it for you because reading is fundamental...


A white person practically telling people of color to go back to Africa is both offensive and pretty racially charged.

Do you understand what "practically" means? Let's tackle the second part. When your ancestors are from Africa, and Trump tells you to go back to where you came from, even though you were born in the US and your family has been here for generations, where is he telling you to go back to?

[Patrick Chewing]

I'm going to highlight it for you because reading is fundamental...



Do you understand what "practically" means? Let's tackle the second part. When your ancestors are from Africa, and Trump tells you to go back to where you came from, even though you were born in the US and your family has been here for generations, where is he telling you to go back to?


And you interpret this as racist? You interpret this as his disdain and hatred and superiority to any person who is not White? How has he managed to work with people of all races throughout his life and visit different countries if he’s a blatant racist? If he’s a racist, you would think he’d want nothing to do with these people. You guys are the race and racism experts so I would hope you could explain this to me.

So using your logic, he’s not racist had he just singled out Rep. Omar since she’s actually from that shithole called Somalia?

[dude77]

he said gtfo here if you hate this place so much .. nothing more nothing less .. if you think that's 'racist' that's on you .. dems try to make EVERYTHING a race issue .. everything .. you talk about donuts they'll find a way to make it about race ... people are sick of that shit

[Patrick Chewing]

Asked if she supports Al-Qaeda, Rep. Ilhan Omar declined to comment today.

Are you sure you Trump haters really want to stand behind this woman and defend her? You sure you want to take her side over the President

[highwhey]

he said gtfo here if you hate this place so much .. nothing more nothing less .. if you think that's 'racist' that's on you .. dems try to make EVERYTHING a race issue .. everything .. you talk about donuts they'll find a way to make it about race ... people are sick of that shit
"if you criticize this country, you need to get out of the country"

so about that freedom of speech...:roll:

[tpols]

This was a mass re-tweeted response to the don's decree


And "nation" is a pretty European concept. But sure, racists are allowed to explain us all how things should be made.

It's not like they screwed it up in the process.

:wtf:

Have they heard of the asians?

or literally any other ethnicity to ever exist...

Liberals are full out arguing USA is not a country and anybody from anywhere should be able to cruise through because it was stolen from the indians.


:wtf:

[MaxFly]

And you interpret this as racist? You interpret this as his disdain and hatred and superiority to any person who is not White?

The two sole black GOP members in the House and Senate found the comments racially offensive as well.


Rep. Will Hurd (R, Texas 23rd District)

Those tweets are racist, and xenophobic… It’s also behavior that’s unbecoming of the leader of the free world. He should be talking about things that unite, not divide us.”

Sen. Tim Scott (R, South Carolina)

The President interjected with unacceptable personal attacks and racially offensive language. No matter our political disagreements, aiming for the lowest common denominator will only divide the nation further.

Even other members of Congress have interpreted his comments as racist or highly offensive.


Rep. Mike Turner (R, Ohio 10th District)

I am confident that every Member of Congress is a committed American. @realDonaldTrump’s tweets from this weekend were racist and he should apologize. We must work as a country to rise above hate, not enable it.

Rep. Pete Olson (R, Texas 22nd District)

The Tweet President Trump posted over the weekend about fellow Members of Congress are not reflective of the values of the 1,000,000+ people in Texas 22. We are proud to be the most diverse Congressional district in America. I urge our President immediately disavow his comments.

Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R, Alaska)

There is no excuse for the president’s spiteful comments –they were absolutely unacceptable and this needs to stop. We have enough challenges addressing the humanitarian crises both at our borders and around the world. Instead of digging deeper into the mud with personal, vindictive insults—we must demand a higher standard of decorum and decency.

Sen. Joni Ernst (R, Iowa)

Asked by Politico if she thinks the president’s tweets were racist, Ernst said, “Yes, I do. They are American citizens.”

Those are Republicans who have every reason to give Trump a pass. Something about these specific statements and the targets have made it hard for them to give him a pass this time around.



How has he managed to work with people of all races throughout his life and visit different countries if he’s a blatant racist? If he’s a racist, you would think he’d want nothing to do with these people. You guys are the race and racism experts so I would hope you could explain this to me.

Unlike others, I'm not calling Trump a racist, but his comments about those 4 Congresswomen were racially charged and can be interpreted as racist. First, you don't need to be a racist to make a racist comment. Second, before I start pulling out historical examples, are you saying that someone who is racist can't work with or interact with people of other races? Lol, is that the argument you're going with? A cursory examination of our nation's history should reveal how asinine that argument is on its face, but I'm happy to destroy it if that's what you'd like. Let me know.


So using your logic, he’s not racist had he just singled out Rep. Omar since she’s actually from that shithole called Somalia?

I just pulled out Pressley as an example. I see that you'd like to avoid that example as much as possible. You tell me... do you think telling an American citizen who is duly elected to Congress and black, to, for all intents and purposes, go back to Africa not racially charged and not easily interpreted as a racist comment? Because as I outlined above, some Republican members of Congress certainly interpret it as such.

[MaxFly]

he said gtfo here if you hate this place so much .. nothing more nothing less .. if you think that's 'racist' that's on you .. dems try to make EVERYTHING a race issue .. everything .. you talk about donuts they'll find a way to make it about race ... people are sick of that shit

A lot of Republicans see racial issues with Trump's comments as well. I posted a few responses from Republicans above. I can post them again if that would be instructive for you. :confusedshrug:

[highwhey]

oh boy, i look forward to patrick's very well thought out reply with a counter point to all of max's points...yeah right :oldlol:

[MaxFly]

"if you criticize this country, you need to get out of the country"

so about that freedom of speech...:roll:

Trump has criticized the country and previous Presidents pretty extensively in the past. It's not an argument that makes much sense coming from him.

Again, critique of government is intrinsically American and dates back to well before the Revolutionary War. People don't know their history.

[Patrick Chewing]

The two sole black GOP members in the House and Senate found the comments racially offensive as well.




Even other members of Congress have interpreted his comments as racist or highly offensive.






Those are Republicans who have every reason to give Trump a pass. Something about these specific statements and the targets have made it hard for them to give him a pass this time around.




Unlike others, I'm not calling Trump a racist, but his comments about those 4 Congresswomen were racially charged and can be interpreted as racist. First, you don't need to be a racist to make a racist comment. Second, before I start pulling out historical examples, are you saying that someone who is racist can't work with or interact with people of other races? Lol, is that the argument you're going with? A cursory examination of our nation's history should reveal how asinine that argument is on its face, but I'm happy to destroy it if that's what you'd like. Let me know.



I just pulled out Pressley as an example. I see that you'd like to avoid that example as much as possible. You tell me... do you think telling an American citizen who is duly elected to Congress and black, to, for all intents and purposes, go back to Africa not racially charged and not easily interpreted as a racist comment? Because as I outlined above, some Republican members of Congress certainly interpret it as such.


I'm glad you're not calling him a racist. That word has become so perverted over these last few years that it's lost its true meaning. The racist accusation is just a weapon to shut your opponent down now. We are not a racist country. We are an inclusive country. Yet time and time again the same tricksters bring up race as a tool to keep the feeble minded divided among one another to the point where we are at today.

And the opinion of a couple of Black Republican Congressmen is irrelevant. They have to say something. They have to put on a show for their constituents and for the press.

It's depressing that we finally have a President who is the antithesis of your prototypical politician that the masses say they cannot stand, yet here everyone is crucifying him.

[Patrick Chewing]

oh boy, i look forward to patrick's very well thought out reply with a counter point to all of max's points...yeah right :oldlol:


Do you contribute anything besides anti-White and anti-Police videos?

[highwhey]

Do you contribute anything besides anti-White and anti-Police videos?
we've discussed this before, except you're not interested in putting out a proper response.

you just glossed over max's very well put response with an opinion. you're not interested in discussing politics patty, you're here to state your opinion and dip.

[PistonsFan#21]

Watch out guys you're arguing with Patrick Chewing here, he mastered the art of acting clueless. He can literally sit here and act like he doesnt understand how telling a group of american black people to go back to Africa can be perceived as a racist comment.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Trump's base does not care if he lies to them or take's their health care away.
Trump validates their racism and that is everything to them.

[NumberSix]

Trump has criticized the country and previous Presidents pretty extensively in the past. It's not an argument that makes much sense coming from him.

Again, critique of government is intrinsically American and dates back to well before the Revolutionary War. People don't know their history.
If his comment are so obviously racist, why don

[MaxFly]

[QUOTE=NumberSix]If his comment are so obviously racist, why don

[Manny98]

People in this thread trying to justify blatant racism :roll:

[BlakFrankWhite]

People in this thread trying to justify blatant racism :roll:

They defend anything Trump says so it's not surprising

[MaxFly]

I'm glad you're not calling him a racist. That word has become so perverted over these last few years that it's lost its true meaning. The racist accusation is just a weapon to shut your opponent down now. We are not a racist country. We are an inclusive country. Yet time and time again the same tricksters bring up race as a tool to keep the feeble minded divided among one another to the point where we are at today.

And the opinion of a couple of Black Republican Congressmen is irrelevant. They have to say something. They have to put on a show for their constituents and for the press.

It's depressing that we finally have a President who is the antithesis of your prototypical politician that the masses say they cannot stand, yet here everyone is crucifying him.

When Trump says things that are viewed as racially offensive by even those in his party, he has a responsibility to watch what he says and moderate his rhetoric. It also then becomes difficult to play the victim with claims that the other side is playing politics when even those on his side (black and white lawmakers alike) find his comments offensive and him to be peddling in racially charged language.

Now it's easy to dismiss the views of the one black Congressman and one black Senator in the party as irrelevant, but that's simply indicative of how little their opinions and concerns matter to many of you and likely to Trump. I take it the opinions of the other Republican lawmakers who have condemned Trump's comments are irrelevant as well... and by extension, the opinions and views of many of their constituents.

That's the great thing about all of this. Trump, and some of you guys, are so reflexively defensive and so steeped in delusion, that sense and reasoning consistently elude you. Even in cases like this where there are clear and obvious problems with something he has said, he and you, are sure to double down. Some of you are still defending his comments from Charlottesville. It's the gift that keeps on giving for those who oppose Trump, but you guys are too oblivious to see it. The Democrats were busy bickering among themselves just last week... now here they are united again, and with many Republicans agreeing with them on this particular matter.

Oh, and don't think I didn't notice that you were unable to address Trump's comments and why even some Republicans have condemned them and view them as racist. You also completely sidestepped the points I made in my reply to you, likely because you really don't have a cogent argument to make... only opinions to voice. It's weaksauce, but given what you're trying to defend, and how shaky your argument was, I can understand your desire to take your L and move on. I'm not mad at you. :cheers:

[NumberSix]

I've already addressed why his comments can be perceived as racist.
I’m not asking you to explain why you think it might be race-ist. I’m asking you to explain how his tweet pertains to race at all.

Shouldn’t be difficult. If it is racist, it by definition must pertain to race in some way. What is the inference to race?

[MaxFly]

They defend anything Trump says so it's not surprising

One of the things I find fun about this forum is that you will invariably find people defending the most ludicrous positions. You're absolutely right... it's not surprising, but there's always a little part of you that thinks, "Really?" :oldlol:

The other great thing I find are the supporters who obviously see problems with things Trump says or does, but they are so loath to offer even the smallest of critiques that they sign onto some of the foolishness of their compatriots on the board, but ultimately find it untenable and disappear from the conversation. :confusedshrug:

[andgar923]

Trump

[andgar923]

Usually when Trump says something he denies it, backtracks, tries to spin it, calls it fake news, attacks messenger, etc

But this time when called racist he simply doubled down.

[rufuspaul]

In this instance I think the outrage is justified. It's overblown of course, but justified.

I do find it interesting in comparison how Omar and Tlaib can say blatantly antisemitic things and no one bats an eye.

[MaxFly]

[QUOTE=NumberSix]I

[tpols]

https://i.ibb.co/bB9NSJc/t1.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/Xsv0g0L/t2.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/h72qphP/t3.jpg

You're having trouble seeing the racial component in telling minority women who are American citizens, 3 of whom were born in the US and know no other country, that they came from other countries that had terrible, corrupt, inept governments and that they should go back to where they came from and help there before presuming to tell us how to govern in the US? Where is Ayanna Pressley supposed to go? Rashida Tlaib?


Technically he said they can go and then come back with their expertise knowledge.

I for one agree.

[Patrick Chewing]

Oh, and don't think I didn't notice that you were unable to address Trump's comments and why even some Republicans have condemned them and view them as racist. You also completely sidestepped the points I made in my reply to you, likely because you really don't have a cogent argument to make... only opinions to voice. It's weaksauce, but given what you're trying to defend, and how shaky your argument was, I can understand your desire to take your L and move on. I'm not mad at you. :cheers:


What are you talking about? I did address it. Their opinions are just that, opinions and do not reflect all Republicans or all Trump supporters. Just because they're in government does not mean that their opinion holds sway over the opinion of the American voter.

And don't cheapen yourself by telling your opponent that he or she does not have an argument or accuse them of having a weak argument. At the end of the day, all of our comments here are opinions.

[Patrick Chewing]

Technically he said they can go and then come back with their expertise knowledge.

I for one agree.


Nobody reads the fine print.

[Patrick Chewing]

I’m not asking you to explain why you think it might be race-ist. I’m asking you to explain how his tweet pertains to race at all.

Shouldn’t be difficult. If it is racist, it by definition must pertain to race in some way. What is the inference to race?


Cause apparently telling people to go back to their country is exclusive to people of color. And if someone does come from another country, and then bitches and moans about this country, apparently it's off limits to tell them to go back.

This is the Liberal hijack of identity politics.


The Liberal Game Plan:

- We will push minorities into positions within the government.

- We will shut down their opponent by making wild accusations of racism against their candidate.

- Any attack or blowback of our accusations will be met by even more accusations of racism creating a perception that it is Party wide within the opposing Party.

- We go on sympathetic News networks to plead our case that we are fighting for all Americans of all colors, genders, etc, and that we must combat this inherent racism that is plaguing this country.


This is the TRUE definition of a Manufactured Crisis

[NumberSix]

https://i.ibb.co/bB9NSJc/t1.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/Xsv0g0L/t2.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/h72qphP/t3.jpg

You're having trouble seeing the racial component in telling minority women who are American citizens, 3 of whom were born in the US and know no other country, that they came from other countries that had terrible, corrupt, inept governments and that they should go back to where they came from and help there before presuming to tell us how to govern in the US? Where is Ayanna Pressley supposed to go? Rashida Tlaib?
How does what he said relate to race?

[imdaman99]

They defend anything Trump says so it's not surprising
When Trump was running for office, he literally said he could shoot someone and not lose any votes. This thread is more proof of that.

[Patrick Chewing]

When Trump was running for office, he literally said he could shoot someone and not lose any votes. This thread is more proof of that.


Are you expecting Republicans to renounce their Party and join the opposition??

[TheMan]

This was a mass re-tweeted response to the don's decree



:wtf:

Have they heard of the asians?

or literally any other ethnicity to ever exist...

Liberals are full out arguing USA is not a country and anybody from anywhere should be able to cruise through because it was stolen from the indians.


:wtf:
Indians and from India, they are called Native Americans.

[MaxFly]

In this instance I think the outrage is justified. It's overblown of course, but justified.

I do find it interesting in comparison how Omar and Tlaib can say blatantly antisemitic things and no one bats an eye.

Wasn't there significant blow back not too long ago when Omar criticized lawmakers for prioritizing Israel over the United States, and bowing to the demands, lobbying power and money flowing through AIPAC? Pelosi, Schumer and a number of Democratic lawmakers criticized her and condemned her comments, and virtually every Republican jostled, pushed and tripped each other as they raced to mics in order to condemn her and called her anti-Semetic... even Republicans who had said anti-Semetic things earlier that same month were "outraged." Didn't the House have a resolution on that matter that condemned all anti-Semetic and racist talk? Didn't Trump tweet at length about it? Didn't Democratic leadership release an official statement? (https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/21119/) What do you mean when you say that "no one bats an eye?"

Just a reminder, AIPAC is a pro-Israel lobbying outfit where 2 employees passed on classified national defense information to Israel that they obtained from a Department of Defense employee. They are Israel first, but any criticism of them, how they lobby or how they throw money around DC is frowned upon and labeled as anti-Semetism. Omar should have been more careful to avoid anything that could be labeled as an anti-Semetic trope, but she wasn't wrong about AIPAC and US lawmakers on both sides of the aisle.

[MaxFly]

Technically he said they can go and then come back with their expertise knowledge.

I for one agree.

So technically, where are the US citizens who were born in the United States and have lived here their whole lives supposed to go? Again, Ayanna Pressley's ancestors have been here since slavery. Is Donald Trump telling Ayanna Pressley that she should stop criticizing his administration or go back to Africa? Because in his follow up comments yesterday, he doubled down, saying that these people hate America and should leave.

Incidentally, are we also saying that people who haven emigrated here and have become American citizens should not criticize the US government around matters that concern them... especially as elected officials? :confusedshrug:

[rufuspaul]

Didn't the House have a resolution on that matter that condemned all anti-Semetic and racist talk?


The House couldn't come to a consensus that antisemitism might be a bad thing. Their resolution condemned "hate" in general. It was laughable.

[Levity]

Technically he said they can go and then come back with their expertise knowledge.

I for one agree.

LOL

[RRR3]

LOL
Ttrolls strikes again.

[qrich]

How does what he said relate to race?

How isn't it?

C'mon, it's obvious.

[RRR3]

Qrich finally seeing the light? :eek:

[qrich]

Qrich finally seeing the light? :eek:

And who are you my good sir?

Also, my good sir, were you this outraged when prior POTUS' passed laws promoting racial discrimination as opposed to a tweet fury of what you think is racist.

[RRR3]

And who are you my good sir?
I

[MaxFly]

What are you talking about? I did address it. Their opinions are just that, opinions and do not reflect all Republicans or all Trump supporters. Just because they're in government does not mean that their opinion holds sway over the opinion of the American voter.

Lol, no, you didn't address it. You said:


And you interpret this as racist? You interpret this as his disdain and hatred and superiority to any person who is not White? How has he managed to work with people of all races throughout his life and visit different countries if he’s a blatant racist? If he’s a racist, you would think he’d want nothing to do with these people. You guys are the race and racism experts so I would hope you could explain this to me.

I responded to all of that, pointing out why his comments can be interpreted as racist and why even members of the House and Senate, both Democrats and Republicans, find his comments to be offensive. You did not address my explanation nor why people are interpreting his comments as racist and offensive. Instead you summarily dismissed the "opinions" of members of Congress who found his remarks offensive as irrelevant, and went on about "tricksters bringing up race" as if Republicans, including white Republicans, haven't expressed concern about his offensive comments or the racial nature of the comments.


And don't cheapen yourself by telling your opponent that he or she does not have an argument or accuse them of having a weak argument. At the end of the day, all of our comments here are opinions.

Lol, you're the one selling yourself for discount prices, my friend. You did not put forward an argument; you avoided directly rebutting my response to you and decided instead to go on about tricksters, the opinions of detractors being irrelevant and the crucifixion of Trump. It's standard fare for you, but don't act surprised when you get called on it every now and then. :confusedshrug:

[MaxFly]

The House couldn't come to a consensus that antisemitism might be a bad thing. Their resolution condemned "hate" in general. It was laughable.

Lol, you ignored everything else I wrote, decided not to quote any of it because it contradicted your assertion, and keyed in on the resolution about hate, anti-Semetism and racism to support your assertion? Are you still sticking with "no one bats an eye" for real?

Why do you guys have such a hard time saying, "You know what... I was wrong. I didn't remember "xyz" correctly, or my perspective was off... my bad." :rolleyes:

[MaxFly]

How does what he said relate to race?

Let's go slow so that you don't miss anything. Which countries are Ayanna Pressly and Rashida Tlaib from?

[MaxFly]

Are you expecting Republicans to renounce their Party and join the opposition??

The Republican Party was around well before Donald Trump and will be around well after Donald Trump. It's bigger than Trump. A bunch of Republicans condemned his recent comments today and they didn't leave the Party or join the opposition. You guys don't have to defend everything he does; you're not prisoners... except maybe in your own minds. Be free...

[tpols]

Let's go slow so that you don't miss anything. Which countries are Ayanna Pressly and Rashida Tlaib from?


What country someone is from does not necessarily indicate race...

By definition every country on earth has people of multiple different "races".. Even hardcore isolationist ones. Just one outlier would dismiss your allegation.

The word you are looking for is "nativist" which they had to just make up to have a valid classification.

The squad's goal of total globalization will destroy this country because all the people they want to let in are negative assets in a country already teetering on the brink of public and private sector collapse.

This ain't Ellis island or the 1800s-1900s marked by incredible industrial revolutions and little welfare.

Trump is right it is unsustainable.

[Long Duck Dong]

Don't need to read through a single page of this thread to know no mention of race was uttered and the usual suspects are trying their best to feel victimized by any means necessary

[MaxFly]

What country someone is from does not necessarily indicate race...

Look, I know people don't want to answer the question, but I'll ask again. Which countries are Ayanna Pressly and Rashida Tlaib from? Trump says that they should return to the countries from which they came. From which countries did those two women come to the United States? Simply name the countries... it should be easy. :confusedshrug:

[qrich]

Look, I know people don't want to answer the question, but I'll ask again. Which countries are Ayanna Pressly and Rashida Tlaib from? Trump says that they should return to the countries from which they came. From which countries did those two women come to the United States? Simply name the countries... it should be easy. :confusedshrug:

They are from the United States of America.

[Patrick Chewing]

Lol, no, you didn't address it. You said:



I responded to all of that, pointing out why his comments can be interpreted as racist and why even members of the House and Senate, both Democrats and Republicans, find his comments to be offensive. You did not address my explanation nor why people are interpreting his comments as racist and offensive. Instead you summarily dismissed the "opinions" of members of Congress who found his remarks offensive as irrelevant, and went on about "tricksters bringing up race" as if Republicans, including white Republicans, haven't expressed concern about his offensive comments or the racial nature of the comments.



Lol, you're the one selling yourself for discount prices, my friend. You did not put forward an argument; you avoided directly rebutting my response to you and decided instead to go on about tricksters, the opinions of detractors being irrelevant and the crucifixion of Trump. It's standard fare for you, but don't act surprised when you get called on it every now and then. :confusedshrug:

I have addressed every thing you've written down. I've explained why those Congressmen would feel that way and gave that response that they gave.

And what argument can be put forth when the two of us have a difference of opinion? You haven't put forth one argument to prove one way or the other how those comments can be construed as racist. There are 195 countries on this planet. You're simply telling us that because a few Black people find it as racist, then well, it must be racist.

And now what you're doing is you're finishing every reply towards with me slander in order to emphasize whatever point you think you're making in order to look more informed and more correct on this topic.

[Patrick Chewing]

Let's go slow so that you don't miss anything. Which countries are Ayanna Pressly and Rashida Tlaib from?


They're from the United States. Their ancestors are from Africa and the Middle East.

Where's the racist part? Where is the comment that states that Trump's race is superior to theirs and that he hates people from Africa and the Middle East?


Now....if you were to come at us with is what Trump said stupid and incorrect, well yes, of course I'd agree. His comments the other day only apply to that terrorist sympathizer, Omar.

[highwhey]

total evisceration by maxfly. patrick zimmerman never knew what hit him, poor guy, guess being 50 years old and believing in crazy far right politics doesn't bold well when engaging in intellectual discussions :(

[PistonsFan#21]

Trump's comments to Black American citizens: They should go back to the place they came from.

Trump's past comments: We need more refugees from Norway instead of the ones from those shithole countries.

[RRR3]

Trump's comments to Black American citizens: They should go back to the place they came from.

Trump's past comments: We need more refugees from Norway instead of the ones from those shithole countries.
Not racist doe! He just tells it like it is doe!


His dad wasn't racist either! Just happened to be at a Klan rally!

-Patrick, Numbersix, and the rest of the Mango Mussolini gang

[bladefd]

Trump's comments to Black American citizens: They should go back to the place they came from.

Trump's past comments: We need more refugees from Norway instead of the ones from those shithole countries.

Lil Donny doesn't understand that people don't leave Norway because they are treated well there & they are doing well as a country. The "sh*thole countries" are the ones in turmoil and extreme poverty - of course those people will want to leave in search of better life.

[tpols]

Trump's comments to Black American citizens: They should go back to the place they came from.

Trump's past comments: We need more refugees from Norway instead of the ones from those shithole countries.


Norway would be sending people who took away from the deficit, not added to it immensely.

Hes right mate.

Theres nothing wrong with having merit based immigration... based on your employment, financial history, record etc.

what the **** is wrong with wanting to take in the best?

[tpols]

Look, I know people don't want to answer the question, but I'll ask again. Which countries are Ayanna Pressly and Rashida Tlaib from? Trump says that they should return to the countries from which they came. From which countries did those two women come to the United States? Simply name the countries... it should be easy. :confusedshrug:


number six said:


How does what he said relate to race?


you replied asking what countries there from... so theyre from the USA.

what was your point then?

Wheres the racism?

[Dr Seuss]

number six said:




you replied asking what countries there from... so theyre from the USA.

what was your point then?

Wheres the racism?

a white man telling a black american to go back to the country they came from?

gee, i wonder why anyone would construe that as racist? :confusedshrug:

youre white or asian, right? would you tell a black person to go back to the country they came from if they criticized the government?

[tpols]

a white man telling a black american to go back to the country they came from?

gee, i wonder why anyone would construe that as racist? :confusedshrug:

youre white or asian, right? would you tell a black person to go back to the country they came from if they criticized the government?


you make it sound like they just made a one off criticism and thats it when the reality is these airheads have been running their mouths on some lunatic stuff for a long, long time.

And the Don got sick of it.

Wouldnt matter if they were black, white, purple, or green, trump has no problem putting anybody in their place and has consistently shat on cornbread white republicans and democrats alike his entire tenure.

the racism card is played out.

Young up and comers are supposed to show some humility and professionalism. These women are arrogant beyond belief for what little theyve done in their lives, AOC was an effin bartender and nobody for 99% of her waking days.

:roll:

[Dr Seuss]

you make it sound like they just made a one off criticism and thats it when the reality is these airheads have been running their mouths on some lunatic stuff for a long, long time.

And the Don got sick of it.

Wouldnt matter if they were black, white, purple, or green, trump has no problem putting anybody in their place and has consistently shat on cornbread white republicans and democrats alike his entire tenure.

the racism card is played out.

Young up and comers are supposed to show some humility and professionalism. These women are arrogant beyond belief for what little theyve done in their lives, AOC was an effin bartender and nobody for 99% of her waking days.

:roll:

so when youre fed up with something, its ok to be ignorantly racist?

"Young up and comers are supposed to show some humility and professionalism. These women are arrogant beyond belief for what little theyve done in their lives, AOC was an effin bartender and nobody for 99% of her waking days."

but you do make a good point with this. if youre havent amounted to anything significant in YOUR eyes, you definitely shouldnt have a voice worth hearing. just better to bite down and accept

[tpols]

so when youre fed up with something, its ok to be ignorantly racist?

"Young up and comers are supposed to show some humility and professionalism. These women are arrogant beyond belief for what little theyve done in their lives, AOC was an effin bartender and nobody for 99% of her waking days."

but you do make a good point with this. if youre havent amounted to anything significant in YOUR eyes, you definitely shouldnt have a voice worth hearing. just better to bite down and accept


nah theres a middle ground.

go look up young DJT in his interviews... he was calm and collected as can be.

(but still a killer)

hes much crazier now.

[sdot_thadon]

"Go back to your country" has almost always been used in a racist manner. What's alarming is almost all of those women were born and raised here. So if they are to go back "where they came from", then where does Trump and his supporters go? Because whites most certainly didn't come from america........

[MaxFly]

They are from the United States of America.

So if they are from the US, why did Trump say that they came from countries with corrupt, inept governments, and why did he say that they should go back to the broken, crime infested places they came from? Is Ayanna Pressley, for instance, supposed to go back to Africa where her ancestors are from?

[RRR3]

Trump was a game show host and failed businessman who only had money because of his dad but let’s make fun of the actually qualified AOC for being a bartender.




Ttrolls :facepalm

[RRR3]

you make it sound like they just made a one off criticism and thats it when the reality is these airheads have been running their mouths on some lunatic stuff for a long, long time.

And the Don got sick of it.

Wouldnt matter if they were black, white, purple, or green, trump has no problem putting anybody in their place and has consistently shat on cornbread white republicans and democrats alike his entire tenure.

the racism card is played out.

Young up and comers are supposed to show some humility and professionalism. These women are arrogant beyond belief for what little theyve done in their lives, AOC was an effin bartender and nobody for 99% of her waking days.

:roll:
Trump thinks the moon is part of mars: https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1137051097955102720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1137051097955102720&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fspacenews.com%2Ftrumps-most-unhelpful-moon-tweet%2F

Trump thinks the kidney is located in the heart: https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/10/trump-kidney-heart


But THESE congresswomen are the airheads? Sure thing, Ttrolls

[Patrick Chewing]

[QUOTE=RRR3]Trump was a game show host and failed businessman who only had money because of his dad but let

[RRR3]

AOC is qualified in what? She doesn't know what a garbage disposal is.
Making up stuff about her now eh?

Trump thinks the moon is part of Mars.

[Patrick Chewing]

Making up stuff about her now eh?

Trump thinks the moon is part of Mars.

:facepalm

Oh boy.


I think you need to log off before you begin to look dumber than her.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gErodlkQR_k

[RRR3]

:facepalm

Oh boy.


I think you need to log off before you begin to look dumber than her.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gErodlkQR_k
Majority of the comments are saying it

[Patrick Chewing]

The first part of the video is her.

But it's sad that you have to make excuses for an idiot such as her just cause you don't like Trump.

[Shogon]

Making up stuff about her now eh?

Trump thinks the moon is part of Mars.

Anyone with even half of a brain should be able to see him saying the moon is "part of Mars" is in reference to the idea that we will use the moon as a launching site and or learning site for any trip to Mars.

And yes, the garbage disposal clip is real.

I hate everyone.

[RRR3]

The first part of the video is her.

But it's sad that you have to make excuses for an idiot such as her just cause you don't like Trump.
She

[MaxFly]

I have addressed every thing you've written down. I've explained why those Congressmen would feel that way and gave that response that they gave.

I listed six Republican Congress persons... you only addressed and dismissed the criticism of the 2 black Republicans. Why did you dismiss the black Republicans and ignore the condemnation from the white Republicans?


And what argument can be put forth when the two of us have a difference of opinion? You haven't put forth one argument to prove one way or the other how those comments can be construed as racist. There are 195 countries on this planet. You're simply telling us that because a few Black people find it as racist, then well, it must be racist.

When two people have a difference of opinion, the very point is for each to put forward their argument as to why their viewpoint is correct when considering the facts around the matter.

I put forward my argument. Trump told 4 minority women holding American citizenship and serving in Congress, 3 of whom were born in the United States, to go back specifically to the crime infested countries they came from. The problem is that they didn't come from any other country. Three of them are natural born US citizens. Trump is saying that these women don't really have a right to criticize the United States government because the countries where their parents, grandparents or ancestors are from are struggling. Ayanna Pressley specifically... where is he telling her to go?

You went off on a tangent about race tricksters and the crucifixion of Trump while dismissing the concerns of others as irrelevant and the reasons they view the comments as racist or offensive without offering an argument as to why they are not.


And now what you're doing is you're finishing every reply towards with me slander in order to emphasize whatever point you think you're making in order to look more informed and more correct on this topic.

Lol, don't play the victim... it's not believable and you're not good at it.

[RRR3]

Anyone with even half of a brain should be able to see him saying the moon is "part of Mars" is in reference to the idea that we will use the moon as a launching site and or learning site for any trip to Mars.

And yes, the garbage disposal clip is real.

I hate everyone.
So what if it

[Shogon]

[QUOTE=RRR3]So what if it

[MaxFly]

They're from the United States. Their ancestors are from Africa and the Middle East.

Where's the racist part? Where is the comment that states that Trump's race is superior to theirs and that he hates people from Africa and the Middle East?

Now....if you were to come at us with is what Trump said stupid and incorrect, well yes, of course I'd agree. His comments the other day only apply to that terrorist sympathizer, Omar.

Why is he telling those minorities that they should stop criticizing the government and to go back to Africa and the Middle East, which neither of them are from? He doubled down on what he tweeted again today. You are aware that telling a black person, for instance, to go back to where they came from... to go back to Africa, is a racist trope, right? Especially when they're not actually from Africa.

I mean...

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7hFkiPn2hio/hqdefault.jpg

[MaxFly]

number six said:

you replied asking what countries there from... so theyre from the USA.

what was your point then?

Wheres the racism?

So Trump is telling these minority women that they aren't really from the US, but that they're from where their families/ancestors originated and that they should go back there... Africa, the Middle East. When someone insinuates that a natural born American citizen should go back to Africa... the same thing segregationists shouted at black people during the civil rights movement... you don't see why some people see that as offensive and construe it as racist?

[Patrick Chewing]

Why is he telling those minorities that they should stop criticizing the government and to go back to Africa and the Middle East, which neither of them are from? He doubled down on what he tweeted again today. You are aware that telling a black person, for instance, to go back to where they came from... to go back to Africa, is a racist trope, right? Especially when they're not actually from Africa.

I mean...

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7hFkiPn2hio/hqdefault.jpg

This isn't the Civil Rights era in the South. This is 2019.

Anything anyone says can be construed as bigoted if you look deep enough and far back enough. You can post a picture from the 50's and 60's all you want. That era is dead and does not exist today.

[qrich]

So if they are from the US, why did Trump say that they came from countries with corrupt, inept governments, and why did he say that they should go back to the broken, crime infested places they came from? Is Ayanna Pressley, for instance, supposed to go back to Africa where her ancestors are from?

You asked where they came from, I told you.

[QUOTE=RRR3]Trump was a game show host and failed businessman who only had money because of his dad but let

[Patrick Chewing]

[QUOTE=RRR3]She

[Cleverness]

Trump is playing 4D chess. He's making the America-hating Dems the face of their party.

Just kidding; those tweets are indefensible. Probably racist, too, depending on your definition of racism. To anyone trying to defend them... good luck.. might as well target the Left/media overreaction to the weekly "Trump said something offensive; let's all pretend to be outraged and activate our virtue signal mode"

[RRR3]

[QUOTE=Shogon]You stupid mother ****er.

https://www.nasa.gov/specials/moon2mars/

Exploration for all humanity
Exploration is in the DNA of our species

[MaxFly]

"Go back to your country" has almost always been used in a racist manner. What's alarming is almost all of those women were born and raised here.

It's something segregationists shouted at African American protesters and marchers during the civil rights movement. I guess we will have to reclassify those chants in the 50s and 60s as mere frustration with people who were criticizing America.

[tpols]

:facepalm

Oh boy.


I think you need to log off before you begin to look dumber than her.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gErodlkQR_k


Boom.

tio

[Shogon]

[QUOTE=RRR3]Because that

[MaxFly]

This isn't the Civil Rights era in the South. This is 2019.

Anything anyone says can be construed as bigoted if you look deep enough and far back enough. You can post a picture from the 50's and 60's all you want. That era is dead and does not exist today.

So, in 2019, telling natural born American citizens who are minorities to go back to countries they didn't actually come come from because you don't like the fact that they are criticizing government is completely different from previous calls for minorities to go back to countries they didn't actually come from because people back then, likewise, didn't like that those minorities were criticizing government.

Lol, even if you don't personally think the comments are racist or offensive, do you really not see why someone like Republican Representative Will Hurd perceives them as such?

[MaxFly]

You asked where they came from, I told you.


Cool, I appreciate the assist.

[MaxFly]

Trump is playing 4D chess. He's making the America-hating Dems the face of their party.


I literally heard the 4D chess argument today on Fox I believe it was. They were presenting the idea seriously, but you could tell even they thought they were stretching.



Just kidding; those tweets are indefensible. Probably racist, too, depending on your definition of racism. To anyone trying to defend them... good luck.. might as well target the Left/media overreaction to the weekly "Trump said something offensive; let's all pretend to be outraged and activate our virtue signal mode"

That's the one thing Trump has going for him. He says so many offensive and ignorant things that we've long been at max saturation levels. Anytime Dems react, it's easy to say, "Oh here they go again, all offended." Maybe one day soon he can kill someone on 5th Avenue and we can see how well the "Oh here they go again..." works. :confusedshrug:

[Patrick Chewing]

So, in 2019, telling natural born American citizens who are minorities to go back to countries they didn't actually come come from because you don't like the fact that they are criticizing government is completely different from previous calls for minorities to go back to countries they didn't actually come from because people back then, likewise, didn't like that those minorities were criticizing government.

Lol, even if you don't personally think the comments are racist or offensive, do you really not see why someone like Republican Representative Will Hurd perceives them as such?


Why do you keep bringing up what other Congressmen think about the comments?? As if their opinion on his tweets matter. Politicians are cowards. Trump is clearly not.


And yes, racial bigotry of 60 years ago is completely different. Let me know when Trump pushes for segregation again and removes the rights of Blacks to vote and to congregate out in public and all that other awful stuff that doesn't happen today.

[SomeBlackDude]

meanwhile, while everyone was being distracted by this stupid shit...

[URL="https://www.rawstory.com/2019/07/us-manufacturing-sinks-into-recession-amid-trumps-trade-wars/"][B]US manufacturing sinks into recession amid Trump

[MaxFly]

Why do you keep bringing up what other Congressmen think about the comments?? As if their opinion on his tweets matter. Politicians are cowards. Trump is clearly not.


You made the assertion that Democrats were engaged in what... racial trickery? It's a common tactic to avoid dealing with things Trump says and does, instead asserting that "it's just Democrats pretending to be outraged and playing political games!!!" But a bunch of Republican Congress persons and Republicans in general joined Democrats in making public comments condemning Trump's statements. It's not quite the easily-dismissed partisan thing you'd like it to be, unless you believe these Republicans are also engaging in racial trickery.


And yes, racial bigotry of 60 years ago is completely different. Let me know when Trump pushes for segregation again and removes the rights of Blacks to vote and to congregate out in public and all that other awful stuff that doesn't happen today.

Or self deport because they don't agree with what government is doing... :confusedshrug:

If Trump said the exact words, "Go back to Africa!" to a minority who isn't from Africa, you're saying it wouldn't be racist or offensive in 2019?

[MaxFly]

[QUOTE=SomeBlackDude]meanwhile, while everyone was being distracted by this stupid shit...

[URL="https://www.rawstory.com/2019/07/us-manufacturing-sinks-into-recession-amid-trumps-trade-wars/"][B]US manufacturing sinks into recession amid Trump

[SomeBlackDude]

Am I to believe that coal is also struggling all of a sudden out of nowhere?

if the past 3 weeks are an indication?

we're back, baby!

Trump said he'd save coal: Two more producers go bankrupt with 1,800 jobs lost (https://www.salon.com/2019/07/03/trump-said-hed-save-coal-two-more-producers-go-bankrupt-with-1800-jobs-lost/)

Another major coal producer will file for bankruptcy. It employs 2,800 in KY and WV (https://www.kentucky.com/news/state/kentucky/article232728492.html)

Nearly 12,000 Coal Jobs Lost, Months After Trump Declares "Coal Is Back" (https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2019/07/trump-coal-mines-jobs-lost.html)

https://i.makeagif.com/media/3-15-2016/BorpTG.gif

[qrich]

What's worse....a leader that says and tweets mean/racist things....or a leader that passes laws which okay racial discrimination?

[NumberSix]

You made the assertion that Democrats were engaged in what... racial trickery? It's a common tactic to avoid dealing with things Trump says and does, instead asserting that "it's just Democrats pretending to be outraged and playing political games!!!" But a bunch of Republican Congress persons and Republicans in general joined Democrats in making public comments condemning Trump's statements. It's not quite the easily-dismissed partisan thing you'd like it to be, unless you believe these Republicans are also engaging in racial trickery.
Likewise, many Democrats and Republicans denounced Omar

[MaxFly]

What's worse....a leader that says and tweets mean/racist things....or a leader that passes laws which okay racial discrimination?

You mean trying to ban Muslims from the US?

[NumberSix]

You mean trying to ban Muslims from the US?
Trump didn’t “try to ban Muslims.” Yes, he made that stupid comment about banning Muslims during the primary. That in itself is worthy of all the criticism it has received. You don’t need to make up extra stuff.

[MaxFly]

[QUOTE=NumberSix]Likewise, many Democrats and Republicans denounced Omar

[qrich]

You mean trying to ban Muslims from the US?

So once again, you go to something that was said versus actions.

Cool.

[Patrick Chewing]

You made the assertion that Democrats were engaged in what... racial trickery? It's a common tactic to avoid dealing with things Trump says and does, instead asserting that "it's just Democrats pretending to be outraged and playing political games!!!" But a bunch of Republican Congress persons and Republicans in general joined Democrats in making public comments condemning Trump's statements. It's not quite the easily-dismissed partisan thing you'd like it to be, unless you believe these Republicans are also engaging in racial trickery.



Or self deport because they don't agree with what government is doing... :confusedshrug:

If Trump said the exact words, "Go back to Africa!" to a minority who isn't from Africa, you're saying it wouldn't be racist or offensive in 2019?

RACIAL TRICKERY = Label your opponent a racist in order to shut them down. Just the other day Nancy Pelosi was labeled a racist by AOC for disagreeing with her politics.

Let's go back in time.

Let's pick on Donald Trump for the hell of it. He's been labeled a racist for far less than what he tweeted the other day. Let's go back to a time where he questioned if Obama was born in America or not. Boom! He's a racist, and the focus goes from the proposition that Obama may not have been born in the United States, to Donald Trump must be a racist for proposing this simply because Obama is Black.

Let's go back to a time when Trump said that Mexico wasn't sending their best across the border. Which is true. Gangs, criminals, rapists you name it are coming across the border. We don't even know who's coming across. Anyone who denies this fact needs to have a one on one with God and be honest with themselves. What did the media and the opposition accuse Trump of after he made those comments? You guessed right....RACISM.


And quit saying if Trump had said this and if he had said that. All baseless presumptions and hypotheticals. He didn't mention anyone by name, nor mentioned any country by name.

[Long Duck Dong]

ABC:Trumps ratings highest in his presidency

https://abc.go.com/playlists/PL557769560/video/VDKA11112193

Rasmussen, the only major poll that was correct about the election has him at 50% approval 48% disapproval.

The media is demonizing Trump, fairly or not, so bad that people don't want to admit supporting Trump, even anonymously. His numbers are likely MUCH higher among people that will show up to vote for him.

[bladefd]

ABC:Trumps ratings highest in his presidency

https://abc.go.com/playlists/PL557769560/video/VDKA11112193

Rasmussen, the only major poll that was correct about the election has him at 50% approval 48% disapproval.

The media is demonizing Trump, fairly or not, so bad that people don't want to admit supporting Trump, even anonymously. His numbers are likely MUCH higher among people that will show up to vote for him.

So Trump 2020 victory is guaranteed?

[NumberSix]

So Trump 2020 victory is guaranteed?
It

[MaxFly]

Trump didn’t “try to ban Muslims.” Yes, he made that stupid comment about banning Muslims during the primary. That in itself is worthy of all the criticism it has received. You don’t need to make up extra stuff.

I said "try" because it was a central part of his campaign during the primaries and general election; he had a web page devoted to it that was only taken down at the beginning of his Presidency after reporters asked Sean Spicer about Trump's stance on the Muslim ban. Rudy Giuliani told Fox News that Trump had asked him for advice on how to accomplish a Muslim ban “legally.” Stephen Miller told Fox News that “fundamentally, you’re still going to have the same basic policy outcome for the country” when asked about Trump's second EO after the first one was blocked by judges.

Incidentally, he didn't make one stupid comment about Muslims; there were several. We're not so far removed from those events that you can create a new narrative with alternate facts. Give it a few years and let people's memories actually fade.

[MaxFly]

So once again, you go to something that was said versus actions.

Cool.

Stephen Miller told Fox News that “fundamentally, you’re still going to have the same basic policy outcome for the country” when asked about Trump's second EO after the first one was blocked by judges. :confusedshrug:

And let me add... do you recall how Trump's first EO affected some Muslims travelling abroad? Do you recall the chaos? People, who actually had the proper papers, visas and identification, were detained in airports, and some were deported. Some people who had gone through months of vetting, obtained permission for residency, sold their homes and possessions, purchased plane tickets, and were getting ready to travel here were told that they were banned.

Those weren't just things that were "said." You guys have either very short or very warped memories.

[Long Duck Dong]

So Trump 2020 victory is guaranteed?

I won't make a guarantee like you did in 2016. Anything is possible. Trump should be easy to beat but your team is full of crazies. Biden should be a lock for 2020 but instead of trying to play it slightly left of center, he's trying to do what the less popular candidates in his party are doing. He's leading in the polls for a reason, why screw with what's working? :confusedshrug:

[qrich]

[QUOTE=MaxFly]Stephen Miller told Fox News that

[MaxFly]

I like how you refused to answer the question.


I did... the answer is "C," someone who does both.


I also like how you call it a Muslim ban when it didn't include some of the most populated Muslim nations, and included everyone that was from a region and not just Muslims.


Trump called it a Muslim ban and stopped calling it as such when advisers told him it would complicate his ability to put the ban in effect. Instead, he did things like ask Rudy Giuliani how he could do the ban legally. He said that the ban was supposed to curtail possible terrorists' entry into the United States, and while the ban he put in place overwhelmingly barred Muslims from entry into the US, the ban did not include the countries which produced the most terrorists.


An internal report compiled by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security Intelligence and Analysis Unit, however, concluded that people from the seven nations affected by the travel ban pose no increased terror risk. The report found that "country of citizenship is unlikely to be a reliable indicator of potential terrorist activity" and that few individuals from the seven affected countries access the U.S. in any case, since the State Department grants a small number of visas to citizens of those countries." The report found that of 82 people determined to have inspired by a foreign terrorist organization "to carry out or try to carry out an attack in the United States, just over half were U.S. citizens born in the United States," while the rest came from a group of 26 countries, only two of which were among the seven nations included in the ban.

:confusedshrug:


All I'm seeing here is you believing racism is okay when you agree with it.

What's the racism you're talking about. You mention discrimination. Stop being vague... be specific.

[MaxFly]

RACIAL TRICKERY = Label your opponent a racist in order to shut them down.


So Republicans like William Hurd, Mike Turner and Joni Ernst, who called Trump's comments racist, and other Republicans like Tim Scott and Lisa Murkowski who said his comments were offensive and spiteful are engaged in "racial trickery" and are "opponents" because they disagree with him, what he said and how he handled himself in this situation? Again, that bit of foolishness falls apart when you look at the bipartisan nature of the condemnation. I know some of you desperately want to say "It's the Democrats and their trickery!!! Tricksy Democrats!!!" But you end up sounding about as sensible as Gollum from LotR. :oldlol:


Let's go back in time.

Let's pick on Donald Trump for the hell of it. He's been labeled a racist for far less than what he tweeted the other day. Let's go back to a time where he questioned if Obama was born in America or not. Boom! He's a racist, and the focus goes from the proposition that Obama may not have been born in the United States, to Donald Trump must be a racist for proposing this simply because Obama is Black.

Let's go back to a time when Trump said that Mexico wasn't sending their best across the border. Which is true. Gangs, criminals, rapists you name it are coming across the border. We don't even know who's coming across. Anyone who denies this fact needs to have a one on one with God and be honest with themselves. What did the media and the opposition accuse Trump of after he made those comments? You guessed right....RACISM.

Lol, you want to use the birther claims as your example? Trump basically framed the first African American president as a Kenyan interloper who lied to the American people about where he was from, basically seeking to paint him as an illegitimate President who was really from Africa. Other compatriots of Trump joined in and said that Obama was a secret Muslim who should be sent back to Africa.

And then the Mexican comments? Trump said, "When Mexico sends it people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people." He depicted the majority of people crossing the border as Mexican criminals, rapists, and drug dealers with only "some" being good people. And later on, he attacked a judge who gave an unfavorable ruling, saying, "He's a Mexican.... We're building a wall between here and Mexico. The answer is, he is giving us very unfair rulings

[MaxFly]

And quit saying if Trump had said this and if he had said that. All baseless presumptions and hypotheticals. He didn't mention anyone by name, nor mentioned any country by name.

Oh and...

https://i.ibb.co/0VRyPfm/t4.jpg

You're just trying out arguments, aren't you: trotting things out and hoping that you can make a point, however specious, with hopes that no one will catch on and rebut.

Either that or you have no idea what you're talking about. :facepalm

[NumberSix]

There it is folks. From now on, MaxFly will always side with Will Hurd. Not just on this one thing.

[Long Duck Dong]

Obama had the same type of Muslim ban but that wasn't racist. Obama had "concentration camps" but that wasn't racist.

https://youtu.be/Vj9IxVlLRl0

The left thinks anything Trump does is racist even if it was really something Obama did :oldlol:

They have devalued the term "racist" because they use it for EVERYTHING. The common sense people of America have become tone deaf to their constant use of this term.

Trump's approval rating has gone up, while these 4 pieces of shit "women of color" have approval ratings now between 10-25% :oldlol:

[Patrick Chewing]

Oh and...

https://i.ibb.co/0VRyPfm/t4.jpg

You're just trying out arguments, aren't you: trotting things out and hoping that you can make a point, however specious, with hopes that no one will catch on and rebut.

Either that or you have no idea what you're talking about. :facepalm


I don't know anyone named Democrat Congresswomen. You're a bore dude.


Trump wins again and again and again and again and again.

[qrich]

I did... the answer is "C," someone who does both.

Both A & B have been done with the last POTUS'. C hasn't.



Trump called it a Muslim ban and stopped calling it as such when advisers told him it would complicate his ability to put the ban in effect. Instead, he did things like ask Rudy Giuliani how he could do the ban legally. He said that the ban was supposed to curtail possible terrorists' entry into the United States, and while the ban he put in place overwhelmingly barred Muslims from entry into the US, the ban did not include the countries which produced the most terrorists.

So Barry was also racist against Muslim's with the travel ban.....oh, and also, Muslim isn't a race. It's a religion.



What's the racism you're talking about. You mention discrimination. Stop being vague... be specific.

You know, the racial discrimination of skin color taking precedence to merit.

[RRR3]

Patrick tapdancing around the truth as usual.

Such cowardice.

[PistonsFan#21]

I don't know anyone named Democrat Congresswomen. You're a bore dude.


Trump wins again and again and again and again and again.


https://media1.giphy.com/media/KBaxHrT7rkeW5ma77z/giphy.gif

[RRR3]

https://media1.giphy.com/media/KBaxHrT7rkeW5ma77z/giphy.gif
:roll:

[Patrick Chewing]

You twats are mad that he told that anti-American Muzzie to take a hike.


You're really arguing for and defending a person who vehemently dislikes America. A woman who doesn't hide her anti-Semitism, and hangs out with the likes of anti-Semites and Sharia Law supporters such as Linda Sarsour.


But go ahead, keep getting mad at what Trump (An American) has to say. You people prefer to be coddled. You prefer your President to bow his head to world leaders. You prefer your President to lie to you and give you softball answers to tough questions.

[MaxFly]

There it is folks. From now on, MaxFly will always side with Will Hurd. Not just on this one thing.

Because Jeffrey Epstein thinks capitalism is great, and now you agree with him on everything, Six. :cheers:

[MaxFly]

I don't know anyone named Democrat Congresswomen. You're a bore dude.


Lol @ this response after Trump himself acknowledged that he was referring to the four Congresswomen... and then going on to name some of them specifically. You're touched, but what's new. :confusedshrug:

[NumberSix]

You're really arguing for and defending a person who vehemently dislikes America. A woman who doesn't hide her anti-Semitism, and hangs out with the likes of anti-Semites and Sharia Law supporters such as Linda Sarsour.

I don’t think we should be calling Omar an anti-semite as if that’s a confirmed fact.

Her “all about the benjamins” thing is a Puff Daddy reference meaning it’s about the money. For her to say America’s Pro-Israel stance is a result of lobbyists lobbying politicians is not a necessarily anti-semitic point. It’s incorrect, but it’s inline with the left’s general view of “money in politics.” It’s not something specific to Israel policy or ironclad proof of anti-semitism.

Her other comments/stances do have other plausible explanations as well, not necessarily anti-semitism.

That being said, she certainly does appear to take an unusual interest in all things that involve Israel and the role of American Jews. People can draw their own conclusions as to why that is. I just don’t think we’re being objective if we claim to know that she’s definitely motivated anti-semitism.

[MaxFly]

So Barry was also racist against Muslim's with the travel ban.....oh, and also, Muslim isn't a race. It's a religion.

I had a high school teacher who would always say that ignorance requires instruction. Let me help you out...


Did President Obama Ban Muslims from Entering the United States in 2011? (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/president-obama-ban-muslims-2011/)

What's True
In 2011 the State Department's issuance of SIVs to Iraqi applicants slowed after two individuals in Kentucky were identified as having possibly been improperly screened; multiple national news outlets reported on the State Department visa processing slowdown while it was occurring and in subsequent years.

What's False
Neither President Obama nor the State Department banned or stopped those applications entirely; the slowdown affected a single type of visa from a single country (and not all entry from several countries); the slowdown occurred in order to implement enhanced screening procedures, which remained in place in January 2017.


You know, the racial discrimination of skin color taking precedence to merit.

You're still being vague. "Racial discrimination of skin color taking precedence to merit" in what arena? National defense? Finance? Government hiring? Education?

[MaxFly]

But go ahead, keep getting mad at what Trump (An American) has to say. You people prefer to be coddled. You prefer your President to bow his head to world leaders. You prefer your President to lie to you and give you softball answers to tough questions.

He has basically said that the four Congresswomen who have criticized him and the US Government should leave the country because they hate the US. This, after he heavily criticized the former President and the US Government during that President's tenure.

Let's not forget, they have been criticizing him and government of late over the atrocious handling of migrants, and especially child migrants, at the border. It is criticism of his handling of matters at the border that spurred his attacks on the four Congresswomen.

Wait, are we still pretending that we don't know which four women he was talking about?

[NumberSix]

He has basically said that the four Congresswomen who have criticized him and the US Government should leave the country because they hate the US.
Actually, he said they should go to other countries, implement their ideas, prove they work, then come back.

[MaxFly]

Actually, he said they should go to other countries, implement their ideas, prove they work, then come back.

Actually, since his initial Twitter comments, he has repeatedly said that if they don't like the US, they should leave; he has dropped all pretense about going elsewhere to implement their ideas, etc... He also said they should "go back" to the countries where they came from to improve those countries even though three of the women were born in the US, and the ancestors of at least one of the women have been in the US longer than Trump's family. Telling American born citizens to "go back" to a non-existent country is, in effect, telling them to get out of the US... pretense or not.

[NumberSix]

Actually, since his initial Twitter comments, he has repeatedly said that if they don't like the US, they should leave
Ok. Fine. The new standard is, whenever Trump says something, if he then comes out and says something different, that

[MaxFly]

[QUOTE=NumberSix]Ok. Fine. The new standard is, whenever Trump says something, if he then comes out and says something different, that

[Patrick Chewing]

He has basically said that the four Congresswomen who have criticized him and the US Government should leave the country because they hate the US. This, after he heavily criticized the former President and the US Government during that President's tenure.

Let's not forget, they have been criticizing him and government of late over the atrocious handling of migrants, and especially child migrants, at the border. It is criticism of his handling of matters at the border that spurred his attacks on the four Congresswomen.

Wait, are we still pretending that we don't know which four women he was talking about?


Unless you've been there and have seen this for yourself, you cannot make this claim. Migrants have been detained at facilities like these for several, several years going back as far as the late 70's and early 80's. This isn't a new thing. What is a new thing is the amount of migrants coming in now and the fact that these facilities cannot house all of them without having them all look like sardines in a can.

This is manufactured outrage. When someone crosses the border illegally and is detained, where are we supposed to put them? A hotel?

The outrage by these 4 dimwits needs to be directed inwardly and at the very Congressmen they rub shoulders with. These people were elected to uphold the law, and they are refusing to do so. They don't care about these people. It's all about the optics. If you truly think these politicians truly care about these poor ass people that come to this country, then you're a fool.

[NumberSix]

Just a reminder... these cages you hear so much about, not a single one of them was built during the Trump administration.

[diamenz]

Just a reminder... these cages you hear so much about, not a single one of them was built during the Trump administration.

were they used under the obama admin?

[RRR3]

I like how Trumptards think Obama doing bad things means it’s okay for Trump to do bad things.

[MaxFly]

Unless you've been there and have seen this for yourself, you cannot make this claim. Migrants have been detained at facilities like these for several, several years going back as far as the late 70's and early 80's. This isn't a new thing. What is a new thing is the amount of migrants coming in now and the fact that these facilities cannot house all of them without having them all look like sardines in a can.


The fact that migrants have been detained at facilities like these in the past does not mean that we should ignore or dismiss the conditions now. Many of the migrants, especially children, have little access to sanitary and hygiene items such as soap and toothbrushes, little room to lay down to sleep and often no beds or padding to lay down on. These aren't specious claims. The DHS Office of Inspector General just released a report:

[QUOTE]The Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) internal watchdog found squalid conditions in several detention centers for migrant families and children in Texas, including "serious" overcrowding, minors going without hot meals for days and detainees begging not to be returned to their cells, according to a new report released Tuesday.

The DHS Office of Inspector General publicly released its findings

[bladefd]

President Donald Trump Friday defended the crowd at his North Carolina campaign rally who days earlier chanted taunts of "send her back" against Somali-born lawmaker Ilhan Omar.

Trump described the supporters at the Greenville, N.C. rally on Wednesday as "incredible people" and "incredible patriots," a day after he disavowed the chants that were criticized by Democrats and Republicans alike.https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/07/19/donald-trump-defends-rally-crowd-patriots-despite-chants/1781499001/

I guarantee that Trump himself didn't disavow in tweet but one of his media people did. Trump himself is not backing down. That moron is your president, folks.

:coleman:

[Facepalm]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/07/19/donald-trump-defends-rally-crowd-patriots-despite-chants/1781499001/

I guarantee that Trump himself didn't disavow in tweet but one of his media people did. Trump himself is not backing down. That moron is your president, folks.

:coleman:
https://i.imgflip.com/2cmmcn.jpg

[Hawker]

People who have screamed racism for decades why no one is listening to them about trump (https://babylonbee.com/news/people-who-have-screamed-racism-for-decades-wonder-why-no-one-is-listening-to-them-about-trump)


“I don’t know what’s going on,” said left-wing activist Ryan Weber. “Every day for years and years we’ve been yelling about racist things, from words to symbols to holidays to breakfast cereals to every single Republican ever, and we just assumed everyone was carefully taking notes every time we spoke up, but it seems like no one was paying attention at all.”

This is very troubling to the left, because they think Trump is even more racist than the usual things they have labeled as racist, but they’re not sure how to express that. “I mean, we compared John McCain to George Wallace,” stated Democrat Maggie Wilkins, “and I’m not sure who to compare Trump to in order to show he’s an even more worser racist.”

Pretty good article.

[qrich]

Just a reminder... these cages you hear so much about, not a single one of them was built during the Trump administration.

Because it's all fake outrage.

They don't give a shit about these children. They give a shit about trying to make Trump look bad

[NumberSix]

[QUOTE=RRR3]I like how Trumptards think Obama doing bad things means it

[NumberSix]

were they used under the obama admin?
Yes, both built and used.

[NumberSix]

That tracks with other accounts we've heard and what we've seen in pictures and on video. It also tracks with what we have heard in courtrooms where a lawyer for the administration recently confirmed the conditions (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QGLh7JOQHc) in front of a panel of three judges who were, themselves, incredulous.
As I’m sure you know, things often take years in the court system. This lawyer was actually arguing a case that the Trump administration inherited from previous administrations.

You’ll notice it’s listed as “Flores v Barr” right? Well, the “Flores” in this case is actually from 1985. The current “Flores agreement” “law” is from 1997. Clearly, well before Trump was president. This specific lawyer, Sarah Fabian, has been on this since the Obama administration. The idea that she’s some Trump person is not reality. She also handled these Flores cases under Loretta Lynch. She’s a lawyer. She’s simply answering a question about what the Flores agreement does and doesn’t legally require.

She’s not out there saying “f*ck these kids, we’re not giving them soap.”

[MaxFly]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/07/19/donald-trump-defends-rally-crowd-patriots-despite-chants/1781499001/

I guarantee that Trump himself didn't disavow in tweet but one of his media people did.

What's interesting is that they chanted "send her back" and not "send her back so that she can make improvements there and bring that knowledge back to the US." Trump's supporters have a way of distilling his messaging, and after trying to separate himself from the chants, he later praised those rally-goers as patriots and talked about people leaving if they hate the US so much.

[NumberSix]

What's interesting is that they chanted "send her back" and not "send her back so that she can make improvements there and bring that knowledge back to the US." Trump's supporters have a way of distilling his messaging, and after trying to separate himself from the chants, he later praised those rally-goers as patriots and talked about people leaving if they hate the US so much.
Why do they want to send her back?

[MaxFly]

[QUOTE=NumberSix]As I

[Lakers Legend#32]

Trump clearly wants to make racial politics the main issue in 2020.

[Facepalm]

Why do they want to send her back?
Trump has never criticized the USA or it's sitting President right?
Or are we sending him back too?

[MaxFly]

Why do they want to send her back?

Apparently because she has been criticizing the administration and has been labeled as someone who hates American by Trump.

Where did Trump think Ayanna Pressley should go "back" to?

[Long Duck Dong]

Trump clearly wants to make racial politics the main issue in 2020.


Eliteballer.....


:roll:

[qrich]

Trump has never criticized the USA or it's sitting President right?
Or are we sending him back too?

Why's that so much different than your ilk calling anyone who criticized Obama, a POTUS that passed a law promoting racial discrimination, racist?

[Facepalm]

Apparently because she has been criticizing the administration and has been labeled as someone who hates American by Trump.

Where did Trump think Ayanna Pressley should go "back" to?


Hypocrite Trump and his sycophants are at it again. They think we have the memory capacity of a fruit fly.

https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190719162504-cartoon-trump-history-weekly-column-galant-exlarge-169.jpg

[MaxFly]

Why's that so much different than your ilk calling anyone who criticized Obama, a POTUS that passed a law promoting racial discrimination, racist?

What racial discrimination is that again, specifically? You've repeatedly said this, but you've been vague on the details. What arena did the discrimination take place in? National defense? Finance? Government hiring? Education? Housing market?

Facepalm, do you know what he is talking about?

[Facepalm]

What racial discrimination is that again, specifically? You've repeatedly said this, but you've been vague on the details. What arena did the discrimination take place in? National defense? Finance? Government hiring? Education? Housing market?

Facepalm, do you know what he is talking about?
I have no idea what he's talking about, that's why I didn't bother replying. I just assume it's the usual vague "but but whataboutism" and "hey!! look over here!!!" they always trot out that is never actually comparable to the shit Trump pulls.

[RRR3]

I have no idea what he's talking about, that's why I didn't bother replying. I just assume it's the usual vague "but but whataboutism" and "hey!! look over here!!!" they always trot out that is never actually comparable to the shit Trump pulls.
Even if it was comparable, Obama doing something bad doesn’t mean it’s okay for Trump to do something bad. They really don’t get this.

[bladefd]

Apparently because she has been criticizing the administration and has been labeled as someone who hates American by Trump.

Where did Trump think Ayanna Pressley should go "back" to?

Notice how all of the Trumpeters don't want to answer that? They know they can't defend Trump on that without making themselves look like complete buffoons :oldlol:


Trumpeters, don't answer that question and continue to glaze over it. If you try to answer that, you will be laughed at.
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/297/055/875.gif

[MaxFly]

I have no idea what he's talking about, that's why I didn't bother replying. I just assume it's the usual vague "but but whataboutism" and "hey!! look over here!!!" they always trot out that is never actually comparable to the shit Trump pulls.

I suspected it was a whataboutism, but I thought there was an off chance he had some prior discussion with you that made whatever he was talking about relevant. :confusedshrug:

[MaxFly]

Notice how all of the Trumpeters don't want to answer that? They know they can't defend Trump on that without making themselves look like complete buffoons :oldlol:


Lol, you noticed that, huh... for a few pages now. I was trying to see how many pages I could go. :oldlol:

[qrich]

What racial discrimination is that again, specifically? You've repeatedly said this, but you've been vague on the details. What arena did the discrimination take place in? National defense? Finance? Government hiring? Education? Housing market?

Facepalm, do you know what he is talking about?

I've already told you, in which, you defended that buffoon.

[diamenz]

Hypocrite Trump and his sycophants are at it again. They think we have the memory capacity of a fruit fly.

https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190719162504-cartoon-trump-history-weekly-column-galant-exlarge-169.jpg

:oldlol:

[MaxFly]

I've already told you, in which, you defended that buffoon.

Why are you being so vague? Why so reticent to state the issue to which you're referring. Facepalm has no idea what you're talking about and you responded to him.

[TheMan]

Hypocrite Trump and his sycophants are at it again. They think we have the memory capacity of a fruit fly.

https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190719162504-cartoon-trump-history-weekly-column-galant-exlarge-169.jpg
LMAO :roll:

The clown literally ran on how much America sucked :lol

[MaxFly]

What I find particularly amusing is the resistance we now see on the part of some supporters in simply acknowledging that Trump dabbles heavily in racially divisive politics. And we're not talking about run-of-the-mill identity politics here: racially offensive tropes, dog whistles, and the like are standard fare.

Now normally, some of the same supporters would easily rebuke these comments. In fact, some of his supporters have done so publicly and boldly. Lindsey Graham called Trump a "race-baiting xenophobic bigot" in 2015. Mitt Romney said of Trump: "Presidents have an impact on the nature of our nation, and trickle down racism and trickle down bigotry and trickle down misogyny — all of these things are extraordinarily dangerous to the heart and character of America. I think his comments time and again appeal to the racist tendency that exists in some people and I think that's dangerous.”

Now, these guys can't help but heavily equivocate on the nature of his comments. We see similar behavior from people on this very board. (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=399311) Party and personality over country, I guess. When you're so heavily dug into an adopted narrative, it's hard to extricate yourself. :confusedshrug:

At the very least, Trump is especially tone deaf on the appropriateness of some of his racially divisive comments. He proposed a "Blacks vs Whites" (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/20/us/politics/trump-race-record.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share) season of The Apprentice and thought it was a great idea. NBC shut that down quick.

[NumberSix]

[QUOTE=MaxFly]What I find particularly amusing is the resistance we now see on the part of some supporters in simply acknowledging that Trump dabbles heavily in racially divisive politics. And we're not talking about run-of-the-mill identity politics here: racially offensive tropes, dog whistles, and the like are standard fare.

Now normally, some of the same supporters would easily rebuke these comments. In fact, some of his supporters have done so publicly and boldly. Lindsey Graham called Trump a "race-baiting xenophobic bigot" in 2015. Mitt Romney said of Trump: "Presidents have an impact on the nature of our nation, and trickle down racism and trickle down bigotry and trickle down misogyny

[RRR3]

[QUOTE=NumberSix]Yes, politicians very loosely throw the word

[NumberSix]

[QUOTE=RRR3]Trump is a racist.

You can bury your head in the sand all you want, it won

[qrich]

Man, my parents were really racist when they told me to leave when I didn't like living at home.

Or my teachers when I brought up anything.

Or my employers when I brought up lack of hours.

Racist scum

[Dr Seuss]

Man, my parents were really racist when they told me to leave when I didn't like living at home.

Or my teachers when I brought up anything.

Or my employers when I brought up lack of hours.

Racist scum

your teacher told you to to leave the country? your employer did too???? :eek:

[imdaman99]

Man, my parents were really racist when they told me to leave when I didn't like living at home.

Or my teachers when I brought up anything.

Or my employers when I brought up lack of hours.

Racist scum
Why would your parents tell you to leave the country? :eek:

Why would your teacher tell you to leave the country? :eek:

Why would your employer tell you to leave the country? :eek:

You've got it rough buddy :( I would never tell you to leave the country, or even ISH :cheers:

[RRR3]

[QUOTE=NumberSix]When 100% of the

[TheMan]

[QUOTE=RRR3]You would defend Trump if he said the N word, let

[RRR3]

Dude would argue about the context on how he used the word :rolleyes:
That’s exactly what he’d do lmao.

[NumberSix]

[QUOTE=RRR3]You would defend Trump if he said the N word, let

[RRR3]

[QUOTE=NumberSix]This act is not new. You guys have made this claim against every Republican in recent memory.

If there

[NumberSix]

[QUOTE=RRR3]Notice he didn

[Facepalm]

[QUOTE=NumberSix]Trump didn

[RRR3]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/10/us/politics/omarosa-donald-trump-racial-slur.html


He also never cheated on any of his wives I guess
Only Trump tells the truth. You can only trust Trump.

-numbersix

[Patrick Chewing]

Only Trump tells the truth. You can only trust Trump.

-numbersix


Correct the record and don

[NumberSix]

Only Trump tells the truth. You can only trust Trump.

-numbersix
No, plenty of things Trump says are BS, but that

[bladefd]

Only Trump tells the truth. You can only trust Trump.

-numbersix

And Fox News. If it's on Fox News, it must be true!

:coleman:

[MaxFly]

[QUOTE=NumberSix]Yes, politicians very loosely throw the word

[MaxFly]

Or my employers when I brought up lack of hours.

Racist scum

If an employer told you to go back to the country where you came from, that's potentially unlawful conduct that runs afoul of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission's anti-discrimination laws. Sorry that you were treated that way. In spite of our disagreements, no one deserves to be treated that way and I would urge you to take steps to hold them accountable for that treatment. There's a hotline to report these sorts of things. Would you like the number?

[MaxFly]

[QUOTE=RRR3]You would defend Trump if he said the N word, let

[MaxFly]

In this instance I think the outrage is justified. It's overblown of course, but justified.

I do find it interesting in comparison how Omar and Tlaib can say blatantly antisemitic things and no one bats an eye.

Are you standing by this? You sort of disappeared.