Wait.... Celtics lost Horford, Irving, Rozier and Morris? What an offseason!

[AirTupac]

No one is talkin about the fantastic off season that Boston had.

WHY????????????????

[dbugz]

Waitt..... your favorite player got traded to the Pelicans and will be a 2nd pedal now to a rookie?

You said he's that good? :oldlol: :oldlol:

Kuz > Outgram :lol

[DaHeezy]

Addition by subtraction. Just like if ISH lost you it be a much better place

[Bosnian Sajo]

One of my boys is a die hard Boston fan and he swears that they had a solid offseason :oldlol:

It's crazy to think that Boston went from one of the teams that we all imagined would have been among the best of the best at this point in time, yet here they are not even in the top 10. All those draft picks, assets, solid role players...and they lost 4 key players this offseason. The 3 you mentioned plus Rozier, who I personally don't see much in, but he was still getting playing time and "earned" a rather large contract.

They downgraded with every replacement.

Irving > Kemba
Horford > Kanter

Who even is the replacement for Morris and Rozier? I know they have Romeo on their team...who is the backup point guard for this team? Marcus Smart starts at the 2.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Addition by subtraction. Just like if ISH lost you it be a much better place

Oh you've got to be kidding me. They lost 2 all star players and 1 quality role player along with Scawy Tewwy.

I could somewhat understand you saying that for Kyrie, but not Horford and Morris.

[AirTupac]

Waitt..... your favorite player got traded to the Pelicans and will be a 2nd pedal now to a rookie?

You said he's that good? :oldlol: :oldlol:

Kuz > Outgram :lol


Uhhh bro we got AD and LeBron. I think I'm good :oldlol: . Best of luck to my young boys in New Orleans :cheers:

[Vino24]

if Celtics really had a bad season then they shouldn't have a better record than the 49 win Celtics from last year. :pimp:

[dbugz]

Uhhh bro we got AD and LeBron. I think I'm good :oldlol: . Best of luck to my young boys in New Orleans :cheers:


from being future franchise player of the lakers to a 2nd pedal of a rookie :roll:

Trashgram :oldlol:

[RealSkipBayless]

Waitt..... your favorite player got traded to the Pelicans and will be a 2nd pedal now to a rookie?

You said he's that good? :oldlol: :oldlol:

Kuz > Outgram :lol
The state of Boston fans. :lol

Being the 5th best team in the east has them in their feelings. The Lakers won a trade by getting a generational talent. "What bout Ingram tho!?!" You nikkas are dumb.

[DaHeezy]

Oh you've got to be kidding me. They lost 2 all star players and 1 quality role player along with Scawy Tewwy.

I could somewhat understand you saying that for Kyrie, but not Horford and Morris.

There's gonna be a better locker room atmosphere and they have Brad Stevens. We all know he's got that plug and play system down to a tee. Boston pretty much is set up for next man up. I don't think they got better. That was more a shot at OP. But they didn't drop off.

[dbugz]

The state of Boston fans. :lol

Being the 5th best team in the east has them in their feelings. The Lakers won a trade by getting a generational talent. "What bout Ingram tho!?!" You nikkas are dumb.

The feelings of how the lakers supposed to be a contending team in the West last season and didn't even make the playoffs? :oldlol: :roll:

[AirTupac]

The feelings of how the lakers supposed to be a contending team in the West last season and didn't even make the playoffs? :oldlol: :roll:


So you think saying LOL Ingram and WHAT ABOUT LAST SEASON? Changes anything about Lakers having AD and LeBron while Boston lost out on everyone :oldlol:

[Bosnian Sajo]

There's gonna be a better locker room atmosphere and they have Brad Stevens. We all know he's got that plug and play system down to a tee. Boston pretty much is set up for next man up. I don't think they got better. That was more a shot at OP. But they didn't drop off.


Considering what other teams did this offseason, I would definitely say that Boston dropped off. I mean 100%.


I've already mentioned the quality of the players that left, but their top defensive piece left and was replaced by a guy who is known in the league to be among the worst defenders. Look for Boston to finish as 4th/5th seed and not go any farther than the 2nd round of the playoffs, if that.

[Prometheus]

**** Boston!

:hammertime:

**** Boston!

:djparty

[Prometheus]

Considering what other teams did this offseason, I would definitely say that Boston dropped off. I mean 100%.


I've already mentioned the quality of the players that left, but their top defensive piece left and was replaced by a guy who is known in the league to be among the worst defenders. Look for Boston to finish as 4th/5th seed and not go any farther than the 2nd round of the playoffs, if that.

Really hoping for this, as it would mean they would play us in the second round. Can't wait to see them dopey and sad getting waxed.

[Vino24]

Considering what other teams did this offseason, I would definitely say that Boston dropped off. I mean 100%.


I've already mentioned the quality of the players that left, but their top defensive piece left and was replaced by a guy who is known in the league to be among the worst defenders. Look for Boston to finish as 4th/5th seed and not go any farther than the 2nd round of the playoffs, if that.
so they were much more talented last year and will match the same production with a worse roster in a tougher division. King Kemba :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Bosnian Sajo]

so they were much more talented last year and will match the same production with a worse roster in a tougher division. King Kemba :bowdown: :bowdown:

Not only will they match it, but you should also view it as their hard cap. Boston should have been competing for the championship last year considering the team they had assembled...yes, there was drama with Kyrie...had you replaced Kyrie with Kemba while keeping Morris and Horford, you probably still would be fighting for top place in the east.


And I'd like to argue that they are in an EASIER division compared to last year. The Raptors lost Kawhi and Leonard while the Nets gained a lot of good pieces, but are without KD for the entire year. Also we are yet to see how Philly will be this year, although at first glance it does not look like they are better this year than they were the previous year.

[Prometheus]

Not only will they match it, but you should also view it as their hard cap. Boston should have been competing for the championship last year considering the team they had assembled...yes, there was drama with Kyrie...had you replaced Kyrie with Kemba while keeping Morris and Horford, you probably still would be fighting for top place in the east.


And I'd like to argue that they are in an EASIER division compared to last year. The Raptors lost Kawhi and Leonard while the Nets gained a lot of good pieces, but are without KD for the entire year. Also we are yet to see how Philly will be this year, although at first glance it does not look like they are better this year than they were the previous year.

just means you don't follow us closely or understand the game well enough. We are the team to beat now.

[NBAGOAT]

Horford is huge even if it might

[dbugz]

So you think saying LOL Ingram and WHAT ABOUT LAST SEASON? Changes anything about Lakers having AD and LeBron while Boston lost out on everyone :oldlol:

Stop acting like it's a guaranteed championship, last time lakers fans guaranteed that they're a contender, LeDiva failed them by not even making the playoffs :oldlol:

[Bosnian Sajo]

1. just means you don't follow us closely
2.understand the game well enough.
3.We are the team to beat now.


1. Correct
2. Strongly incorrect
3. Please suffocate me


Philly has got a squad, in no way am I saying they are bad. They are a top team in the east...just not "the team to beat". I really liked the Josh Richardson pick up and I think Horford/Embiid could possibly make it work (though spacing may very well be an issue, even with both of them able to hit the 3). I really hate the fact that Philly kept Tobias over Jimmy. I'm not sure it was their call to make, so I'm not gonna dog them for it, but just switch those two guys out (I realize Josh would never be on the team then), keep JJ and this team looks so much ****ing better.

Simmons
JJ
Jimmy
Horford
Embiid

That could win a title.

[brooks_thompson]

It blows my mind how guys like Tony Rozier and Bobby Portis get big deals but a guy like Jamychal Green can

[brooks_thompson]

1. Correct
2. Strongly incorrect
3. Please suffocate me


Philly has got a squad, in no way am I saying they are bad. They are a top team in the east...just not "the team to beat". I really liked the Josh Richardson pick up and I think Horford/Embiid could possibly make it work (though spacing may very well be an issue, even with both of them able to hit the 3). I really hate the fact that Philly kept Tobias over Jimmy. I'm not sure it was their call to make, so I'm not gonna dog them for it, but just switch those two guys out (I realize Josh would never be on the team then), keep JJ and this team looks so much ****ing better.

Simmons
JJ
Jimmy
Horford
Embiid

That could win a title.

I find it strange that JJ left after being with the team through the two-year build-up. He seemingly loved it there, especially since he lives not too far in Brooklyn. Then he up and decides to go to New Orleans? I find it hard to believe that Philly refused to pay him $10-12 million a year for 2 years. I think it

[qrich]

Lost: Kyrie, Terry, Horford, Morris, Baynes

Gained: Kemba, Grant, Kanter, Carsen

Kemba over Kyrie is a big plus, as is Carsen over Terry.

Loss of Morris stings, as does Baynes & Horford


Considering what other teams did this offseason, I would definitely say that Boston dropped off. I mean 100%.


I've already mentioned the quality of the players that left, but their top defensive piece left and was replaced by a guy who is known in the league to be among the worst defenders. Look for Boston to finish as 4th/5th seed and not go any farther than the 2nd round of the playoffs, if that.

So essentially the same as last season?

[Prometheus]

1. Correct
2. Strongly incorrect
3. Please suffocate me


Philly has got a squad, in no way am I saying they are bad. They are a top team in the east...just not "the team to beat". I really liked the Josh Richardson pick up and I think Horford/Embiid could possibly make it work (though spacing may very well be an issue, even with both of them able to hit the 3). I really hate the fact that Philly kept Tobias over Jimmy. I'm not sure it was their call to make, so I'm not gonna dog them for it, but just switch those two guys out (I realize Josh would never be on the team then), keep JJ and this team looks so much ****ing better.

Simmons
JJ
Jimmy
Horford
Embiid

That could win a title.

Redick was more of a liability than an asset. He's barely a better shooter than Jrich and was a traffic cone. We got the two weakest defenders out of our rotation. Small guards were burning us all year long. And the Horford pickup can't be overstated. He can be used more as the backup 5 than as the 4... which was our second-biggest weakness next to perimeter defense. Not to mention the squad we fielded in the playoffs had played about 10 total games together and then took the champs to the final buzzer of game 7. Butler was not nearly as good as people wanna act either. And we got some athletic young bois coming up.

Don't say I didn't warn you.

[Bosnian Sajo]

So essentially the same as last season?


Yes...and that's not a good thing considering how last year was deemed as a big disappointment for a team many of us expected to be battling it out for the ECF.

Last years version of the Celtics did not reach their potential, what I'm arguing is that this year's version best outcome will be 2nd round exit lol.


Just my opinion, I could be absolutely wrong but I just do not see this working out well.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Redick was more of a liability than an asset. He's barely a better shooter than Jrich and was a traffic cone. We got the two weakest defenders out of our rotation. Small guards were burning us all year long. And the Horford pickup can't be overstated. He can be used more as the backup 5 than as the 4... which was our second-biggest weakness next to perimeter defense. Not to mention the squad we fielded in the playoffs had played about 10 total games together and then took the champs to the final buzzer of game 7. Butler was not nearly as good as people wanna act either. And we got some athletic young bois coming up.

Don't say I didn't warn you.


Butler is the guy who kept you guys in the series...he was absolutely the best player for Philly against Toronto.

For ****s sake, Embiid and Harris both shot 37% from the field against the Raptors.


And you think JJ was a liability? I truly feel like you're reaching, bro. I'll respect your opinion because you obviously watched them more than me, but I do believe that you are being a wee bit biased here.

[qrich]

Yes...and that's not a good thing considering how last year was deemed as a big disappointment for a team many of us expected to be battling it out for the ECF.

Last years version of the Celtics did not reach their potential, what I'm arguing is that this year's version best outcome will be 2nd round exit lol.


Just my opinion, I could be absolutely wrong but I just do not see this working out well.

This year, I think they can climb up to the third seed. Last year, their potential was overblown because Kyrie doesn't have the.....mentality (for lack of a better word) to buy into Brad's system. Had he bought into the system, the team would've done better.

Horford is the biggest loss for Boston, especially since he went to a direct rival. Along with Baynes on top of it, because Baynes would've provided them with some brute size.

Outside of Milwakuee and Philly, Boston is still up there, which, speaks to the West being that much better.

[superduper]

JJ straight up single handedly won multiple games for Philly this past season. The disrespect he gets is crazy. He's not even a black hole or anything and legit like 80% of the time I watch him shoot it goes in.

[NBAGOAT]

JJ straight up single handedly won multiple games for Philly this past season. The disrespect he gets is crazy. He's not even a black hole or anything and legit like 80% of the time I watch him shoot it goes in.

i liked jj too. Lot of philly's best offense was just get redick open on screens or dribble hand offs. He's not too good in the playoffs vs teams who focus on him and with richardson and going in on tobias, they didnt really need jj however.

Richardson's defense is nice but he isnt a good enough shooter yet to play that way. I'm just looking for super 3 and D play from him. They can just sign korver to fulfill that elite shooter role tbf.

[Bosnian Sajo]

This year, I think they can climb up to the third seed. Last year, their potential was overblown because Kyrie doesn't have the.....mentality (for lack of a better word) to buy into Brad's system. Had he bought into the system, the team would've done better.

Horford is the biggest loss for Boston, especially since he went to a direct rival. Along with Baynes on top of it, because Baynes would've provided them with some brute size.

Outside of Milwakuee and Philly, Boston is still up there, which, speaks to the West being that much better.

Agreed but I believe there was more to it than just that, Kyrie was on some **** shit ever since he announced he was "re-signing".

But that's my point, last year's disappointment is this years best case scenario. Again, imo.

[Prometheus]

Butler is the guy who kept you guys in the series...he was absolutely the best player for Philly against Toronto.

For ****s sake, Embiid and Harris both shot 37% from the field against the Raptors.


And you think JJ was a liability? I truly feel like you're reaching, bro. I'll respect your opinion because you obviously watched them more than me, but I do believe that you are being a wee bit biased here.

Embiid was by far our most important player in that series. There is more to the game han fg%. Foh

[qrich]

Agreed but I believe there was more to it than just that, Kyrie was on some **** shit ever since he announced he was "re-signing".

But that's my point, last year's disappointment is this years best case scenario. Again, imo.

Unless they can somehow avoid Milwakuee & Philly in the ECSF, I can see them making the ECFs.

Unfortunately for them, the top two seeds are pretty much set as those two.

[Bosnian Sajo]

i liked jj too. Lot of philly's best offense was just get redick open on screens or dribble hand offs. He's not too good in the playoffs vs teams who focus on him and with richardson and going in on tobias, they didnt really need jj however.

Richardson's defense is nice but he isnt a good enough shooter yet to play that way. I'm just looking for super 3 and D play from him. They can just sign korver to fulfill that elite shooter role tbf.


But what happens when a team is forced to focus on a specific player during an NBA game? Other guys tend to be left open. JJ is a great piece for any team, and his game has not fallen off. He averaged 18ppg last year and still shot 40% from three.


The Pelicans this year will be JUICY, I cannot wait to see that team play. Glad JJ joined them in order to force defenses to spread instead of clog the lane and stop Zion from jamming it. They have a lot of solid 3 point shooters on that team.

[qrich]

JJ straight up single handedly won multiple games for Philly this past season. The disrespect he gets is crazy. He's not even a black hole or anything and legit like 80% of the time I watch him shoot it goes in.

I still can't believe that Philly gave up Shamet in the Tobias deal.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Embiid was by far our most important player in that series. There is more to the game han fg%. Foh

I'm not saying it just because of his FG%...I mention that to illustrate that he did in fact struggle during the series. He had a huge game 3 (or game 4, i don't remember) with 33 points but he also had 2 games in which he only ATTEMPTED 7 shots.


Best player during the season? Absolutely. Best player against the Raptors? Hell no, it was definitely Jimmy.

[coin24]

Yeah but Danny ainge durrrr assets:roll: :roll:

[Wally450]

Celtics are eating good. Don't worry about us. :pimp: Top 3 in the East this coming season.

[dbugz]

ECF here we come :bowdown:

JT All star
Jaylen first defensive team
King Kemba best PG in the east
Hayward will be 100% already

:bowdown: :bowdown:

[Bosnian Sajo]

Oof, I forgot about Indiana. I got them over Boston in the east as well.

[Bosnian Sajo]

ECF here we come :bowdown:

JT All star
Jaylen first defensive team
King Kemba best PG in the east
Hayward will be 100% already

:bowdown: :bowdown:


In what world?? :oldlol:

IDK which claim is more absurd.

[qrich]

In what world?? :oldlol:

IDK which claim is more absurd.

Kemba as the best PG isn't very absurd. Well, unless you view Giannis as a PG

[RealSkipBayless]

In what world?? :oldlol:

IDK which claim is more absurd.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Bosnian Sajo]

Kemba as the best PG isn't very absurd. Well, unless you view Giannis as a PG


Simmons, Brogdon potentially this year, others I can't think of because I'm omw home.

[Wally450]

Simmons, Brogdon potentially this year, others I can't think of because I'm omw home.

I still see Kemba having a better season than both of them.

[Meticode]

I think they can be better than last year, but they need to flip Brown or Hayward for a PF. Starting Tatum, Brown and Hayward move to me, and all of them deserve to start.

[RealSkipBayless]

Is Kemba better than the current revitalized D Rose?

Kemba might be fringe top 5 PG in the east pending Wall

[Rolando]

Not worried.

Whatever we have this coming season will be more interesting and fun to watch than last season. I think Kemba will be an upgrade.

There's also more room to breathe now for Tatum and Brown.

Wild Card is Gordon Hayward. Let's see how he comes back.

We lost a lot when we lost Horford. There's no denying that. However, the Celtics have signed enough new bigs plus we have the freaking TIME LORD and TACKO!!!!!!!!

The fans are happy and looking forward to the season. I think Stevens does a better job with less talent anyway.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Traffic thoughts: kyrie still in the east too

[ronniec]

Traffic thoughts: kyrie still in the east too


Kyrie has to play a full season without KD, and most likely he will get himself injured in the middle of the season and join his buddy on treatment table.
Him in the East or not, doesn't matter.

We have enough big men to cover Horford's absence. We are even bigger than what we had last season.

What is gone is gone, what matter most is the development of Tatum and Brown; and the recovery of Hayward. Kemba will lead them all the way.

[Vino24]

Stevens turned Isaiah Thomas into a 30ppg scorer. Imagine what he

[moongaze]

Never seen a fanbase get mindfuced and brainwashed like the celshits. Media owned the celshits last season.

[fourkicks44]

The reason JJ's production has been the highest of his career the last 2 years is because of Joel. Now he is in NO his production will fall dramatically. Sure he can shoot, but you won't see the numbers he had in Philadelphia.

Sixers just couldn't give him that money once Jimmy was gone.


I still can't believe that Philly gave up Shamet in the Tobias deal.

And this in hindsight (and I knew at the time) was a terrible deal. Shamet could fill JJ's role, is better on D, play backup pg and most disappointing of all his his contact...

Shamet getting paid pennies for the next two years. Can't get anymore team friendly :facepalm

What hurts even more is the fact they could have signed Harris this summer without that trade. I highly doubt anyone was gonna pay him the money the Sixers would have.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Kyrie has to play a full season without KD, and most likely he will get himself injured in the middle of the season and join his buddy on treatment table.
Him in the East or not, doesn't matter.

We have enough big men to cover Horford's absence. We are even bigger than what we had last season.

What is gone is gone, what matter most is the development of Tatum and Brown; and the recovery of Hayward. Kemba will lead them all the way.

Dope, that comment was directed to "what pg in the east is better than kemba".

[Prometheus]

Fcking Shamet :facepalm

I was so mad about that. Still am. Kid can flat out play.

[qrich]

And this in hindsight (and I knew at the time) was a terrible deal. Shamet could fill JJ's role, is better on D, play backup pg and most disappointing of all his his contact...

Shamet getting paid pennies for the next two years. Can't get anymore team friendly :facepalm

What hurts even more is the fact they could have signed Harris this summer without that trade. I highly doubt anyone was gonna pay him the money the Sixers would have.

Clippers definitely weren't going to give Tobias that contract, Utah and Brooklyn would have offered Tobias as much as possible.

With how LA made it clear they had their eyes on Kawhi, I was shocked they were able to get two first rounders and a solid rookie in return.

Simultaneously, I can't blame Brand for going for the grand slam swing. Had that Kawhi shot clanked off, Philly might have won the whole enchilada.