MJ was smart to not pay Kemba

[3ball]

You can't pay the max to a 6-foot dude that isn't a top 10 player, and have him weigh down your payroll

Just not enough return on investment - Kemba makes you a borderline playoff team at best - you can do better than that by going a different direction and having more flexibility to manuever

This will prove to be a good move by MJ

[Vino24]

You can't pay the max to a 6-foot dude that isn't a top 10 player, and have him weigh down your payroll

Just not enough return on investment - Kemba makes you a borderline playoff team at best - you can do better than that by going a different direction and having more flexibility to manuever

This will prove to be a good move by MJ
Agree especially when the bobcats still are not in the playoffs in another 10 years

[Spurs m8]

The GOAT wins again

[FKAri]

Smart? Even a stopped clock gives the right time twice a day.

[RealSkipBayless]

But it was smart to pay Terry Rozier?

[Vino24]

But it was smart to pay Terry Rozier?
Thread backfire :roll:

[bobopenguin]

the only star MJ ever had in his team...and MJ let kemba walked.

[3ball]

Smart? Even a stopped clock gives the right time twice a day.
In this case, I think MJ was unique knowledge of how useless short guards are

That was Phil's philosophy - he hated short guards

I think MJ always appreciated Kemba's attitude, but wished he was like 6'5"

You gotta understand - as usual, MJ must do it the organic way - that always takes longer then being gifted AD or KD like bigger markets get.. so it's easy to call MJ an idiot when you know he'll never acquire a guy like AD and will have to draft such a player.. but he'll persevere and end up on top, because that's what he does

[Vino24]

In this case, I think MJ was unique knowledge of how useless short guards are

That was Phil's philosophy - he hated short guards

I think MJ always appreciated Kemba's attitude, but wished he was like 6'5"

You gotta understand - as usual, MJ must do it the organic way - that always takes longer then being gifted AD or KD like bigger markets get.. so it's easy to call MJ an idiot when you know he'll never acquire a guy like AD and will have to draft such a player.. but he'll persevere and end up on top, because that's what he does
MJ wouldn

[3ball]

MJ wouldn’t do shit either if Frank Kaminsky was his 2nd option
MJ always got the 8 seed or better, regardless of cast or 2nd option

And he won 50 games in 1988 with no 2nd option.. Charles Oakley (a rebounder) was his 2nd option, yet MJ got the 3 seed and won a game off the Pistons..

Compare to Lebron in 2007, who couldn't win a game off the Spurs, or his record loss in 2014 with Bosh/Wade as sidekicks

[Vino24]

MJ won 50 games in 1988 with no 2nd option

I think Charles Oakley was his 2nd option, yet MJ got the 3 seed and won a game off the Pistons.. Compare to Lebron in 2007, who couldn't win a game off the Spurs, or his record loss in 2014 with Bosh/Wade as sidekicks
Oakley was an all star and a great defender. Lmao

[3ball]

Oakley was an all star and a great defender. Lmao
Defenders aren't 2nd options, so ur making my point

MJ won a game off the Pistons with a defender at 2nd option, while Lebron couldn't win a game off the Spurs with an all-star center and all-defender SG, and lost by record amount with 2 HOF in 14'

Honestly, I wonder if you guys have a psychological problem because you skip over the facts I present that DIRECTLY PROVE YOU WRONG.. the last paragraph proves you wrong - lebron got swept twice and lost by record amount twice, ALL WITH HIGH SEEDS AND GOOD TEAMS/CASTS - mj played the goat Celtics closer with his 8 seeds - THAT PROVES YOU WRONG.. don't skip over it lameass

[MiseryCityTexas]

Hornet lowkey trying like hell to get the first pick next year. They figure a team with Terry Rozier as the best player on the team, can take the Hornet to the lottery as fast as possible.

[DMAVS41]

Yes, he was...

Two times he wasn't smart though just recently;

1. Not trading Kemba, who had real value, knowing he wasn't going to pay him

2. Giving Terry that contract

[ScalsFan21]

So this is what it's come to, Threebs?

This thread is the basketball equivalent of saying Julio Jones made a great catch towards the end of that devastating Patriots loss. Technically true, but far too hopelessly lost in the big picture to mean anything.

[FKAri]

In this case, I think MJ was unique knowledge of how useless short guards are

That was Phil's philosophy - he hated short guards

I think MJ always appreciated Kemba's attitude, but wished he was like 6'5"

You gotta understand - as usual, MJ must do it the organic way - that always takes longer then being gifted AD or KD like bigger markets get.. so it's easy to call MJ an idiot when you know he'll never acquire a guy like AD and will have to draft such a player.. but he'll persevere and end up on top, because that's what he does
No. It's easy to call him an idiot because this is the same nigguh that drafted Kwame Brown #1 overall because he gave him the work in a 1 on 1 in a pre-draft workout.

[Vino24]

MJ could have gotten something back had he traded him instead. Huge fail :roll:

[stalkerforlife]

Yep.

Why max out a player that can't even get to the playoffs?

[Vino24]

Yep.

Why max out a player that can't even get to the playoffs?
who the fvck did MJ put around Kemba?

[GOBB]

Yeah not smart. Now go back in the lottery and search for another Kemba or better in the draft. And let

[Real Men Wear Green]

If you are happy to accept being mediocre at best and never better then I guess the approach is fine. Because it's true that Walker can't just drag a team to the playoffs. They can probably make money without ever fielding a competitive team so that approach makes business sense.

Now why that would make a fan happy, I have no idea and MJ the player wouldn't have accepted MJ the owner, that's for certain.

[3ball]

Yeah not smart. Now go back in the lottery and search for another Kemba or better in the draft. And let’s hope you don’t make another so called smart decision and not pay them. Dumb move. Like you’re talking about not paying the guy because it’ll mess up payroll like he didn’t take on shitty deals that weighed down payroll. Like huh? Most come off books and Batum is an expiring contract.

Good luck in the lottery tho, no seriously. Hopefully they land a generational talent.
With kemba as the team's #1 guy, the ceiling is 1st round playoff exit

Why shoot for that?

MJ was smart to seek a higher ceiling through the draft.. Emoni Bates or some shit that can put them over the top

[FireDavidKahn]

MJ "smart"

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[3ball]

MJ "smart"

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
He sure played a smart way wouldn't you say?

His skillset allowed coaches to design great teamwork and ball movement around him, which is better than the dribble-happy lebron can say

89' Phil Jackson would never be sitting as the assistant coach thinking "man, when Krause lets me take over for Doug, I'm going to install the triangle because Lebron's skillset can make it work"... But he thought thay about mj because his skills were superior and allowed it

I legit laugh when i hear skip Bayless say lebron is the smartest player ever.. he's infact one of the dumbest, at least among all-time great perimeter players

[FireDavidKahn]

He sure played a smart way wouldn't you say?

His skillset allowed coaches to design great teamwork and ball movement around him, which is better than the dribble-happy lebron can say

89' Phil Jackson would never be sitting as the assistant coach thinking "man, when Krause lets me take over for Doug, I'm going to install the triangle because Lebron's skillset can make it work"... But he thought thay about mj because his skills were superior and allowed it

I legit laugh when i hear skip Bayless say lebron is the smartest player ever.. he's infact one of the dumbest, at least among all-time great perimeter players

Way to move the goalpost!

Is this thread about him as a player or his decisions as an owner?:facepalm

MJ is a very, very bad owner and that isn't even up for debate.

Next time stay on topic in your own thread and guzzle MJ's jizz in another thread.

[SouBeachTalents]

Way to move the goalpost!

Is this thread about him as a player or his decisions as an owner?:facepalm

MJ is a very, very bad owner and that isn't even up for debate.

Next time stay on topic in your own thread and juzzle MJ's jizz in another thread.
:oldlol:

[RRR3]

Was he smart to pay Rozier 19 million, 3ball?

[3ball]

Way to move the goalpost!

Is this thread about him as a player or his decisions as an owner?:facepalm

MJ is a very, very bad owner and that isn't even up for debate.

Next time stay on topic in your own thread and guzzle MJ's jizz in another thread.
I simply responded to you calling MJ dumb, and pointed out that he played a much smarter way than Bron ever did

And all you guys do is move goal posts.. you think I can get a straight answer from you guys on time of possession or team-hopping?... :facepalm

[3ball]

If you are happy to accept being mediocre at best and never better then I guess the approach is fine.


Huh???

With kemba as the team's #1 guy, the ceiling is 1st round playoff exit

Why shoot for that?

MJ was smart to seek a higher ceiling through the draft.. Emoni Bates or some shit that can put them over the top

[RRR3]

Was he smart to pay Rozier 19 million, 3ball?
Stop dodging this, you sniveling coward.

[bigkingsfan]

Because MJ draft history is so stellar :

2005 1 5 Raymond Felton United States Point guard North Carolina
2005 1 13 Sean May (from Cleveland via Phoenix)[l] United States Power forward North Carolina
2006 1 3 Adam Morrison United States Small forward Gonzaga
2006 2 50 Ryan Hollins (from Sacramento)[m] United States Center UCLA
2007 1 8 Brandan Wright (traded to Golden State)[n] United States Small forward North Carolina
2007 1 22 Jared Dudley (from Cleveland)[o] United States Small forward Boston College
2008 1 9 D. J. Augustin United States Point guard Texas
2008 1 20 Alexis Ajin

[FireDavidKahn]

[QUOTE=bigkingsfan]Because MJ draft history is so stellar :

2005 1 5 Raymond Felton United States Point guard North Carolina
2005 1 13 Sean May (from Cleveland via Phoenix)[l] United States Power forward North Carolina
2006 1 3 Adam Morrison United States Small forward Gonzaga
2006 2 50 Ryan Hollins (from Sacramento)[m] United States Center UCLA
2007 1 8 Brandan Wright (traded to Golden State)[n] United States Small forward North Carolina
2007 1 22 Jared Dudley (from Cleveland)[o] United States Small forward Boston College
2008 1 9 D. J. Augustin United States Point guard Texas
2008 1 20 Alexis Ajin

[RRR3]

[QUOTE=bigkingsfan]Because MJ draft history is so stellar :

2005 1 5 Raymond Felton United States Point guard North Carolina
2005 1 13 Sean May (from Cleveland via Phoenix)[l] United States Power forward North Carolina
2006 1 3 Adam Morrison United States Small forward Gonzaga
2006 2 50 Ryan Hollins (from Sacramento)[m] United States Center UCLA
2007 1 8 Brandan Wright (traded to Golden State)[n] United States Small forward North Carolina
2007 1 22 Jared Dudley (from Cleveland)[o] United States Small forward Boston College
2008 1 9 D. J. Augustin United States Point guard Texas
2008 1 20 Alexis Ajin

[Levity]

[QUOTE=bigkingsfan]Because MJ draft history is so stellar :

2005 1 5 Raymond Felton United States Point guard North Carolina
2005 1 13 Sean May (from Cleveland via Phoenix)[l] United States Power forward North Carolina
2006 1 3 Adam Morrison United States Small forward Gonzaga
2006 2 50 Ryan Hollins (from Sacramento)[m] United States Center UCLA
2007 1 8 Brandan Wright (traded to Golden State)[n] United States Small forward North Carolina
2007 1 22 Jared Dudley (from Cleveland)[o] United States Small forward Boston College
2008 1 9 D. J. Augustin United States Point guard Texas
2008 1 20 Alexis Ajin

[SouBeachTalents]

[QUOTE=bigkingsfan]Because MJ draft history is so stellar :

2005 1 5 Raymond Felton United States Point guard North Carolina
2005 1 13 Sean May (from Cleveland via Phoenix)[l] United States Power forward North Carolina
2006 1 3 Adam Morrison United States Small forward Gonzaga
2006 2 50 Ryan Hollins (from Sacramento)[m] United States Center UCLA
2007 1 8 Brandan Wright (traded to Golden State)[n] United States Small forward North Carolina
2007 1 22 Jared Dudley (from Cleveland)[o] United States Small forward Boston College
2008 1 9 D. J. Augustin United States Point guard Texas
2008 1 20 Alexis Ajin

[GOBB]

So yeah smart not to pay Kemba because you can build through the draft. Until you look at his draft history. So now what? GMs be like

[Real Men Wear Green]

Huh???

With kemba as the team's #1 guy, the ceiling is 1st round playoff exit

Why shoot for that?

MJ was smart to seek a higher ceiling through the draft.. Emoni Bates or some shit that can put them over the top
With the current approach they will have to draft the best player in the draft 2 or 3 consecutive years to build a contender because they aren't going to sign any elite players. There has never even been a rumor that they would sign an All-Star. Here's the reality: Great players want to play with good supporting casts. If the few good players they draft can't be retained they will never have the kind of team a star like James, Leonard, KD, etc. would be willing to join. Instead they are the kind of franchise that good players leave.

From a business perspective I get what Jordan is doing, by sports owner standards he's not rich. But what's good for business for a small market team doesn't seem to be the recipe for building a good team.

[TheCorporation]

But it was smart to pay Terry Rozier?


Yikes

[TheCorporation]

[QUOTE=bigkingsfan]Because MJ draft history is so stellar :

2005 1 5 Raymond Felton United States Point guard North Carolina
2005 1 13 Sean May (from Cleveland via Phoenix)[l] United States Power forward North Carolina
2006 1 3 Adam Morrison United States Small forward Gonzaga
2006 2 50 Ryan Hollins (from Sacramento)[m] United States Center UCLA
2007 1 8 Brandan Wright (traded to Golden State)[n] United States Small forward North Carolina
2007 1 22 Jared Dudley (from Cleveland)[o] United States Small forward Boston College
2008 1 9 D. J. Augustin United States Point guard Texas
2008 1 20 Alexis Ajin

[Wally450]

This whole thread is yikes for 3ball. :lol

[RRR3]

This whole thread is yikes for 3ball. :lol
He scurried out of it like the coward he is.

[3ball]

This whole thread is yikes for 3ball. :lol
Not gonna lie .. its a liiiiitle bit tougher to defend his front office career than his playing career... :lol

But he still made the right move with Kemba... :applause:... He's getting the hang of it

[FireDavidKahn]

[QUOTE=GOBB]So yeah smart not to pay Kemba because you can build through the draft. Until you look at his draft history. So now what? GMs be like

[red1]

putting MJ and smart in the same sentence is an oxymoron.




would an intelligent man ever get caught looking like this:


https://deadstockreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/MJ-tiny-foot-STORY-576x1024.jpg

[red1]

[QUOTE=bigkingsfan]Because MJ draft history is so stellar :

2005 1 5 Raymond Felton United States Point guard North Carolina
2005 1 13 Sean May (from Cleveland via Phoenix)[l] United States Power forward North Carolina
2006 1 3 Adam Morrison United States Small forward Gonzaga
2006 2 50 Ryan Hollins (from Sacramento)[m] United States Center UCLA
2007 1 8 Brandan Wright (traded to Golden State)[n] United States Small forward North Carolina
2007 1 22 Jared Dudley (from Cleveland)[o] United States Small forward Boston College
2008 1 9 D. J. Augustin United States Point guard Texas
2008 1 20 Alexis Ajin

[tamaraw08]

In this case, I think MJ was unique knowledge of how useless short guards are

That was Phil's philosophy - he hated short guards

I think MJ always appreciated Kemba's attitude, but wished he was like 6'5"

You gotta understand - as usual, MJ must do it the organic way - that always takes longer then being gifted AD or KD like bigger markets get.. so it's easy to call MJ an idiot when you know he'll never acquire a guy like AD and will have to draft such a player.. but he'll persevere and end up on top, because that's what he does

Then why draft Kemba in the first place then?:confusedshrug:
Why draft Malik Monk?
Like what DMavs said,if you don't want to pay Kemba, why not trade him for someone now or any future picks?

[NBAGOAT]

i'm fine with not keeping kemba. What the hell was the rozier deal however. Giving like 3 yrs 50 to rubio which is a huge overpay wouldve even been better. They're banking on very unlikely potential, it was just stupid.

Then you hear things like the hornets turning down 3 1st rounders for kaminsky and you're just not impressed with their front office.

[And1AllDay]

putting MJ and smart in the same sentence is an oxymoron.




would an intelligent man ever get caught looking like this:


https://deadstockreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/MJ-tiny-foot-STORY-576x1024.jpg


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