Doesnt it feel like the Kings should be the next great young team?

[Kblaze8855]

Fox, Hield, Bagley, and Bogdanovic?

It kinda feels like they should move from "Not bad...." into surprisingly good soon doesnt it?

In the games I saw they played hard....together for the most part. Fox should be an all star soon.

Anyone wanna get in on the Kings before the season starts?

[AirTupac]

Kings did what they do best. Go backwards. Firing Joeger for Luke is a Kings move :oldlol:


Fox needs to dip ASAP.

[NBAGOAT]

I’m on their hype train but they’re at best like a 7 seed this year. Question for future is do they give 30mil+ to hield who is 27 or do they go with bogdanovic as their future starter and leave some flexibility. Fox and bagley seem like they’re getting maxes in a few years

[sdot_thadon]

I'm thinking they should be coming but maybe they are still a year/guy or 2 away. I like what I've seen from Fox already potential wise.

[NBAGOAT]

I'm thinking they should be coming but maybe they are still a year/guy or 2 away. I like what I've seen from Fox already potential wise.

I agree but on the other hand fox/hield could only top out at prime wall/Beal and tht team didn

[ShawkFactory]

Hawks will be first

[DMAVS41]

Absolutely, but the West is currently so strong that they could be on the outside looking in.

They do have some nice vet additions like Dedmon/Joseph/Ariza...and while Barnes isn't worth his contract, he's on a declining scale so his deal actually gets much better over time.

I think their win total is like 38 for the 2020 season last I checked...just crazy how good the West is projected to be.

[bigkingsfan]

Most fans want Bogdanovic gone after his laziness and inconsistency last year.

It's hard to see them beat out the Spurs for that final spot. Then you have teams like the Mavs/Pelicans in that mix.

[RealSkipBayless]

Yep.

They might even gain a big enough lead while Klay is out to hold onto the 8th seed and keep the Warriors out of the playoffs.

[NugzFan]

Kings did what they do best. Go backwards. Firing Joeger for Luke is a Kings move :oldlol:


Fox needs to dip ASAP.

You literally make fun of every thing another franchise does. Your trolling has become so lazy and predictable. You even do it at the expense of contradicting yourself, making you look even worse.

How sad must your real life be?

[qrich]

Giles, if he can stay healthy and zero in as well.

[HylianNightmare]

Hawks will be first
Agreed, I don't see the kings ever putting it together

[AirTupac]

You literally make fun of every thing another franchise does. Your trolling has become so lazy and predictable. You even do it at the expense of contradicting yourself, making you look even worse.

How sad must your real life be?


Nah. Just what garbage franchises do. You sound upset

[jbryan1984]

No but I felt like that 2 decades ago.

[NugzFan]

Nah. Just what garbage franchises do. You sound upset

According to you there are 29 garbage franchises

And the one that isn

[ClipperRevival]

Nobody mentions the Pels?

Next year, they will be a top 5 defensive team with Ball, Jrue, Ingram and Zion along with Hart off the bench. You have that many elite defenders, you are going to shrink the court.

Pels have a much higher ceiling in a year or two. I might put my money on them winning more games next year too. People that overlook D are casuals. Lol.

[Xiao Yao You]

Nobody mentions the Pels?

Next year, they will be a top 5 defensive team with Ball, Jrue, Ingram and Zion along with Hart off the bench. You have that many elite defenders, you are going to shrink the court.

Pels have a much higher ceiling in a year or two. I might put my money on them winning more games next year too. People that overlook D are casuals. Lol.

Zion is a plus defender and has yet to get on the court? You forgot Favors

[RRR3]

Nobody mentions the Pels?

Next year, they will be a top 5 defensive team with Ball, Jrue, Ingram and Zion along with Hart off the bench. You have that many elite defenders, you are going to shrink the court.

Pels have a much higher ceiling in a year or two. I might put my money on them winning more games next year too. People that overlook D are casuals. Lol.
Ingram is trash.

[Ass Dan]

Denver is the next great young team. They are already very good.

Kings, meh

[NBAGOAT]

Nobody mentions the Pels?

Next year, they will be a top 5 defensive team with Ball, Jrue, Ingram and Zion along with Hart off the bench. You have that many elite defenders, you are going to shrink the court.

Pels have a much higher ceiling in a year or two. I might put my money on them winning more games next year too. People that overlook D are casuals. Lol.

their shooting is awful with that lineup. If they play jj, that's an obvious liability but I think they need to. Rookies arent usually great on defense either. Tbf favors is an underrated rim protector but we'll see how well he does playing starter minutes.

on the kings hand, they wont be above average but they're not going be terrible like the hawks or bulls, top 20 is doable. Dedmon, barnes, fox is solid enough for the starters. hopefully for them, joseph and ariza can be decent as defensive specialists, that's what they got overpaid to do.

[imdaman99]

Nuggets and Kings. Pelicans if Zion lives up to the hype as well. Young promising talent is a beautiful thing. I'm a fan of Fox and Jokic.

Wish the Knicks can get some besides RJ and MitchRob. I don't like any of their other youngins yet. Maybe Knox improves, maybe Brazdeikis surprises.

[Real14]

Kings do deserve to make playoff spot. It has been 14 years already:facepalm

[ClipperRevival]

their shooting is awful with that lineup. If they play jj, that's an obvious liability but I think they need to. Rookies arent usually great on defense either. Tbf favors is an underrated rim protector but we'll see how well he does playing starter minutes.

on the kings hand, they wont be above average but they're not going be terrible like the hawks or bulls, top 20 is doable. Dedmon, barnes, fox is solid enough for the starters. hopefully for them, joseph and ariza can be decent as defensive specialists, that's what they got overpaid to do.

Good point about shooting. But for me, I think playoff bball. And to me, that is do you have guys who can be "the man" and create their own shot in half court sets? And I think they have 2 great candidates in BI and Zion. 2nd thing I look for is D, which they have. 3rd is probably end to end, athleticism. Pels got all that too for sure.

My criteria for great teams is different than most. But that's what I look for. I believe in a lot of guys on the Pels, especially if Zion turns out to be what he's supposed to be, I think it's a wrap. He's got that desire to compete on both ends, which is everything.

[NBAGOAT]

Good point about shooting. But for me, I think playoff bball. And to me, that is do you have guys who can be "the man" and create their own shot in half court sets? And I think they have 2 great candidates in BI and Zion. 2nd thing I look for is D, which they have. 3rd is probably end to end, athleticism. Pels got all that too for sure.

My criteria for great teams is different than most. But that's what I look for. I believe in a lot of guys on the Pels, especially if Zion turns out to be what he's supposed to be, I think it's a wrap. He's got that desire to compete on both ends, which is everything.

Well playoff b-ball is different from the rs but I just don’t think the pels will be particularly close to making the playoffs(35-40 wins imo). Their defense and iso ability could give them an edge vs other teams in a playoff series but it’ll likely be a moot point next year. I also argue all 3 of the kings young guys can get buckets out of isolation. Zion really having a great rookie season is what could derail my prediction but we’ll see.

The spurs will be good next year with Murray coming back. Dallas has a fantastic duo that fits well together on paper. Sac has a promising young core that already won 39 games last year.

[AirTupac]

[QUOTE=NugzFan]According to you there are 29 garbage franchises

And the one that isn

[ClipperRevival]

[QUOTE=NBAGOAT]Well playoff b-ball is different from the rs but I just don

[ClipperRevival]

Ingram is trash.

He'll average 20 ppg at worst (assuming he has no health issues) and be the best player on the Pels this season. He'll be the main ball handler and creator too. Great thing about all this baby boi is that time will reveal the truth. You guys are so going to eat crow when it comes to YDK. Such a shame you can't see such obvious talent.

[AirTupac]

He'll average 20 ppg at worst (assuming he has no health issues) and be the best player on the Pels this season. He'll be the main ball handler and creator too. Great thing about all this baby boi is that time will reveal the truth. You guys are so going to eat crow when it comes to YDK. Such a shame you can't see such obvious talent.


20 year old who was averaging 27/7 on 50% FG after allstar break...



ISH poster:

https://i.ibb.co/85z0Zcz/gg.jpg

RRR3: INGRAM IS TRASH

[NBAGOAT]

He'll average 20 ppg at worst (assuming he has no health issues) and be the best player on the Pels this season. He'll be the main ball handler and creator too. Great thing about all this baby boi is that time will reveal the truth. You guys are so going to eat crow when it comes to YDK. Such a shame you can't see such obvious talent.

he could average 20+. Being better than jrue within a year seems like a huge stretch however. The gm and coach have been pushing jrue so hard as the lead guy to the media evem..

[ClipperRevival]

he could average 20+. Being better than jrue within a year seems like a huge stretch however. The gm and coach have been pushing jrue so hard as the lead guy to the media evem..

Jrue's ceiling is limited given the fact that he has no dominant offensive abilities. That is the main qualifier for being "the man." You probably don't know this as you don't live in LA but David Griffin absolutely loved Ingram all this time. This trade would not have happened if he wasn't so high on him. YDK will be given the keys to the franchise along with Zion. Zion might end up being the better player but YDK clearly is most qualified to be the main ball handler and creator on this team this upcoming year despite Lonzo and Jrue. You don't have to believe me, just realize it when it materializes.

[NBAGOAT]

Jrue's ceiling is limited given the fact that he has no dominant offensive abilities. That is the main qualifier for being "the man." You probably don't know this as you don't live in LA but David Griffin absolutely loved Ingram all this time. This trade would not have happened if he wasn't so high on him. YDK will be given the keys to the franchise along with Zion. Zion might end up being the better player but YDK clearly is most qualified to be the main ball handler and creator on this team this upcoming year despite Lonzo and Jrue. You don't have to believe me, just realize it when it materializes.

I actually am in the area and Ik about griffins love for Ingram. I also know jrue went 21/8 last season so he

[NugzFan]

How many championships do we have? Garbage franchises like Kings and Denver thrive on celebrating 2nd round playoffs. But thats exactly why they're so limited. Its the loser mentality.

Oh god. You and that same defense of past titles :rolleyes: it

[AirTupac]

[QUOTE=NugzFan]Oh god. You and that same defense of past titles :rolleyes: it

[ZenMaster]

Absolutely, but the West is currently so strong that they could be on the outside looking in.

They do have some nice vet additions like Dedmon/Joseph/Ariza...and while Barnes isn't worth his contract, he's on a declining scale so his deal actually gets much better over time.

I think their win total is like 38 for the 2020 season last I checked...just crazy how good the West is projected to be.

It's going to be wildly competitive and I think the season will serve as a pretty big push towards combining making seeds from league records instead of conferences.

[NugzFan]

> Says its irrelevant to present day
> Brings up Laker team record that was in rebuild with achilles tear Kobe + young guys
> Doesn't want to talk about present day AD-LeBron Lakers


You sound dumb as shit kid :oldlol:

Lakers already favorites for another ring. You know.... the only thing that matters in the NBA. I hope Denver had fun celebrating a franchise record year .... a regular season success. Imagine if they could win a ring off that though.

It is all irrelevant. Laker titles in the past don

[AirTupac]

[QUOTE=NugzFan]It is all irrelevant. Laker titles in the past don

[NugzFan]

Lmao guy can't even respond properly. It must bother you that we're favorites for the ring and you're still hoping for a finals appearance in your loser life as a nugget fan.

It doesn

[305Baller]

this is the year, my friend

[Gougou]

Kings are nice but I think right now it is like:


1. Denver.
2. Pelicans.
3. Grizzlies.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Nobody mentions the Pels?

Next year, they will be a top 5 defensive team with Ball, Jrue, Ingram and Zion along with Hart off the bench. You have that many elite defenders, you are going to shrink the court.

Pels have a much higher ceiling in a year or two. I might put my money on them winning more games next year too. People that overlook D are casuals. Lol.


I'm down with the Pelicans, I see them being great very soon.

Young players:

Lonzo Ball
Brandon Ingram
Zion Williamson (Rookie)
Jaxson Hayes (Rookie)
Josh Hart
Kenrich Williams
Frank Jackson
Nickeil Alexander-Walker (Rookie)

Oldest player on this list is Kenrich, who is 24.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Denver is the next great young team. They are already very good.

Kings, meh


Therefore, they are not the NEXT GREAT young team...they already are.

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

Kings are nice but I think right now it is like:


1. Denver.
2. Pelicans.
3. Grizzlies.

come again? the grizz? :oldlol:

[NuggetsFan]

Either them or the Pelicans. Hard to say right now until we see Zion in action.

[QUOTE]Five NBA teams had an average age (weighted by production) below 25 last season: