Kobe, Lebron, KD failed to three-peat

[StrongLurk]

As the man...only Shaq was able to do it since the 2000's started.

Shaq is criminally underrated all time and is > Kobe and Duncan.

[MrFonzworth]

KD failed or did he blow his leg out?

[SouBeachTalents]

Since the 2000's? Him and Jordan are the only ones to do it in the last 50 years

[StrongLurk]

KD failed or did he blow his leg out?

Clearly both.

[MrFonzworth]

Clearly both.
Not as clear. He failed due to injury, whereas LeBron and Kobe just flat out weren't capable.

[StrongLurk]

Not as clear. He failed due to injury, whereas LeBron and Kobe just flat out weren't capable.

KD physically wasn't capable.

I agree that the Warriors would have won in 2019 in KD was healthy.

[stalkerforlife]

Kobe did 3peat and almost did it TWICE.

You could say he didn't if without Shaq he did nothing, but simply wasn't the case.

Shaq actually did NOTHING as the man without KOBE.

[RRR3]

Kobe did 3peat and almost did it TWICE.

You could say he didn't if without Shaq he did nothing, but simply wasn't the case.

Shaq actually did NOTHING as the man without KOBE.
Shaq dragged your hero bricking and screaming to 3 rings. Show some respect.

[stalkerforlife]

Shaq dragged your hero bricking and screaming to 3 rings. Show some respect.

Sure.

[stalkerforlife]

In the 1999-2000 season, Bryant lead the team in assists and steals (not to mention his 22.5 ppg) as the Lakers went on to win 67 games.

The Lakers ran into some trouble against the Portland Trailblazers in the Western Conference Finals. It all came down to Game Seven, in which "Mr. Second Fiddle" had 25 points, 11 rebounds, seven assists, and four blocks. O'Neal finished with 18 points and nine rebounds.

In the Finals, the Lakers swept the New Jersey Nets, and once again Shaq won the MVP Award. Kobe wasn't too bad either, averaging 27 points, 5.8 rebounds, and 5.3 assists per game, while shooting 51.4% from the floor.

Not too bad for a guy who wouldn't have accomplished anything without the Big Fella, huh?

It was also in this series that Bryant would begin to gain his reputation as clutch. In fourth quarters alone, he shot a staggering 63% from the field, while scoring 12 and 11 in the final quarter of games three and four.

USA Today recognized his greatness, saying: "Never before has a player on the winning team put up the numbers and had the impact that Bryant had against the Nets and not been selected series MVP."

[stalkerforlife]

The last of the Lakers' championships would occur the following season (2001-2002). Once again, Kobe lead his team in assists as they finished with the second best record in the West, behind the Sacramento Kings.

They would meet the Kings in the Western Conference Finals and the series went the distance—seven games.

Bryant would once again come up big. He scored 30 points, added 10 rebounds, and dished out seven assists as the Lakers won by six.

[RRR3]

^Desperation

[stalkerforlife]

^Desperation

Exactly.

Shaq was extremely desperate to end his career with more rings than Kobe as he bounced from team to team.

Didn't work.

Made a rap song that went viral.

Ended up looking stupid.

[RRR3]

Exactly.

Shaq was extremely desperate to end his career with more rings than Kobe as he bounced from team to team.

Didn't work.

Made a rap song that went viral.

Ended up looking stupid.
Everyone smart knows Shaq was better than Kobe and that just tears you up inside. You resent Shaq for making your hero look like a joke in the finals.

[stalkerforlife]

Everyone smart knows Shaq was better than Kobe and that just tears you up inside. You resent Shaq for making your hero look like a joke in the finals.

Projectiiiing.

Do better, Simon.

[RRR3]

Projectiiiing.

Do better, Simon.
Meltdown.

My name isn’t Simon.

[kentatm]

Kobe did 3peat and almost did it TWICE.


:lol

Kobe almost did it twice right up until his ass got swept out of the second round during the second attempt by the GOAT champion 2011 Dallas Mavericks.

http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/assets/4348639/oohdirk_medium.gif

[stalkerforlife]

:lol

Kobe almost did it twice right up until his ass got swept out of the second round during the second attempt by the GOAT champion 2011 Dallas Mavericks.

http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/assets/4348639/oohdirk_medium.gif

That would've made 4 finals in a row.

I'm not talking about that year.

:biggums:

[stalkerforlife]

Anyhow, Lakers went 6 with Boston in 08 without Bynum and while Ariza got injured.

They also blew a huge lead and the series should've gone 7.

VERY close to another Kobe 3peat.

[RRR3]

Anyhow, Lakers went 6 with Boston in 08 without Bynum and while Ariza got injured.

They also blew a huge lead and the series should've gone 7.

VERY close to another Kobe 3peat.
LeBron took those same Celtics to 7 with an absolutely garbage roster :yaohappy:

[stalkerforlife]

LeBron took those same Celtics to 7 with an absolutely garbage roster :yaohappy:

Lost game 1 by 4 and Bran was 2-18 with 10 turnovers and the only net negative player in the starting lineup.

Outscored by Z and Wally.

Lost game 2 with Bran going 6-24 with 7 turnovers and the worst +/- in the starting lineup.

Big Z 9-12.

Won game 3 with Bran going 5-16.

Win game 4 with Bran going 7-20.

See a trend yet?

All Bran had to do was not play like the worst player on the planet for them to win. (Needs moar halp)

If Bran didn't play like utter dog shit, they never go down 0-2.

Kind of destroys your HALP argument.

[RRR3]

Lost game 1 by 4 and Bran was 2-18 with 10 turnovers and the only net negative player in the starting lineup.

Outscored by Z and Wally.

Lost game 2 with Bran going 6-24 with 7 turnovers and the worst +/- in the starting lineup.

Big Z 9-12.

Won game 3 with Bran going 5-16.

Win game 4 with Bran going 7-20.

See a trend yet?

All Bran had to do was not play like the worst player on the planet for them to win. (Needs moar halp)

If Bran didn't play like utter dog shit, they never go down 0-2.

Kind of destroys your HALP argument.
So LeBron had a bad series and he still took more games off the all-time stacked Celtics than Kobe did, even though Bron had significantly less help? :biggums:

Damn. I knew LeBron was better but THAT much better? Sheeeeeeit

[stalkerforlife]

So LeBron had a bad series and he still took more games off the all-time stacked Celtics than Kobe did, even though Bron had significantly less help? :biggums:

Damn. I knew LeBron was better but THAT much better? Sheeeeeeit

You got busted.

Then revert to trolling.

The Bransvestite way

[RRR3]

You got busted.

Then revert to trolling.

The Bransvestite way
Why couldn’t Kobe take more than 2 games off the Celtics? Even the goddamn Hawks did and they were below .500




Brickbe :(

[Vino24]

LeBron played well enough to 3peat with the cavs. Problem is Love was injured and he reduced himself to a bench level player

[stalkerforlife]

[QUOTE=RRR3]Why couldn

[RRR3]

Because his help was trash.

However, I proved Bran's help was good enough to beat the Celtics, but Bran was all time bad in winnable games.
Yeah LeBron totally had more help than Kobe in 2008 :rolleyes:

Do you even think before you type?

[stalkerforlife]

Yeah LeBron totally had more help than Kobe in 2008 :rolleyes:

Do you even think before you type?

8-42 in the first two games and they went down 0-2.

The lack of help came from your boy.

You're just dismissing his help as Bransvestites have always done.

Improved to 12-36 in games three and four and won both games.

Pin it on his teammates, though; the Bransvestite way.

[RRR3]

8-42 in the first two games and they went down 0-2.

The lack of help came from your boy.

You're just dismissing his help as Bransvestites have always done.

Improved to 12-36 in games three and four and won both games.

Pin it on his teammates, though; the Bransvestite way.
Kobe:

9-26 in game 1 of the 2008 finals, Lakers lose. Pau’s fault doe amirite?

6-19 in a pivotal game 4. Another Lakers L.

7-22 and blown out of the building in game 6.



But but but his teammates :cry:

[stalkerforlife]

[QUOTE=RRR3]Kobe:

9-26 in game 1 of the 2008 finals, Lakers lose. Pau

[SouBeachTalents]

Isiah & the Pistons would've 3peated if not for this infamous call

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R76Uack9TmQ

[RRR3]

Not nearly as horrendous as your boy.

Just like in 07 when all he needed to do was not play like the worst player in the league.

Winnable games and he simply sucked and choked.

Just like 11.
I bet he would have shot better if he had as much offensive help (and a better coaching staff to help draw up good plays for him) as Kobe did to take the pressure off him.

Winnable games for Kobe in 2008 and he simply sucked and choked.

[kentatm]

That would've made 4 finals in a row.

I'm not talking about that year.

:biggums:

:biggums:

Wait, wait, wait... so you are counting the Lakers 4-2 Finals loss to the Celtics in '08 as part of an "almost 3-peat"? The Finals series they never led and were down 2-0 and 3-1 before losing 4-2? They lost game 6 of that series 131-92!

:roll: :roll: :roll:

GTFO outta here with that bullshit.

[stalkerforlife]

I bet he would have shot better if he had as much offensive help (and a better coaching staff to help draw up good plays for him) as Kobe did to take the pressure off him.

Winnable games for Kobe in 2008 and he simply sucked and choked.

Oh, this is where you prop up Odom as a star to meet your narrative.

Oh wait, big Z and Wally made all-star teams and Odom never did.

Radmanovic and Fisher filling out the starting 5.

Sasha, Luke, Farmar, Turiaf off the bench.

Stacked, amirite?

Kobe had the worst roster in the history of any team that made three straight finals and won two.

That doesn't even include KG emasculating Pau in 08.

[stalkerforlife]

I bet he would have shot better if he had as much offensive help (and a better coaching staff to help draw up good plays for him) as Kobe did to take the pressure off him.

Winnable games for Kobe in 2008 and he simply sucked and choked.

And coaching is absolutely irrelevant with Bran ball.

Ridiculous to suggest otherwise.

Bran ball is loser ball and only prevails with super teams in a historically weak conference and the help of the league.

[stalkerforlife]

:biggums:

Wait, wait, wait... so you are counting the Lakers 4-2 Finals loss to the Celtics in '08 as part of an "almost 3-peat"? The Finals series they never led and were down 2-0 and 3-1 before losing 4-2? They lost game 6 of that series 131-92!

:roll: :roll: :roll:

GTFO outta here with that bullshit.

Bynum and Ariza injured.

Oh nevermind, they're only included as great players when Kobe wins.

If he loses without them, they're pathetic role players.

:cheers:

[RRR3]

Oh, this is where you prop up Odom as a star to meet your narrative.

Oh wait, big Z and Wally made all-star teams and Odom never did.

Radmanovic and Fisher filling out the starting 5.

Sasha, Luke, Farmar, Turiaf off the bench.

Stacked, amirite?

Kobe had the worst roster in the history of any team that made three straight finals and won two.

That doesn't even include KG emasculating Pau in 08.
Lmao at acting like 08 Wally and Big Z were stars. Pau shits on anyone on the Cavs roster besides LeBron. Why are we avoiding that?

[stalkerforlife]

Lmao at acting like 08 Wally and Big Z were stars. Pau shits on anyone on the Cavs roster besides LeBron. Why are we avoiding that?

Always an excuse.

Can never come to terms with the glaring failures.

You're long winded like a woman gossipping on the phone.

LeExcuse.

[Real14]

KD failed or did he blow his leg out?
End thread:applause:

[Andrei89]

KD failed or did he blow his leg out?

The Rockets most likely would have made the finals if Cp3 did not go down for G6 and G7 last year.

[SpaceJam]

Kobe nearly 3peated TWICE?

You mean going down 4-2 to Boston in 2008

Beating an Orlando Magic team with an recovering from injury all-star in 2009 (KG also was injured for the playoffs, so major asterisk)

Naturally getting gifted a FMVP that should have gone to Pau Gasol just because he was the media's golden boy in 2010

Swept as well as outplayed by Jason Terry in 2011

I'm trying to find that nearly 3peat

[MrFonzworth]

The Rockets most likely would have made the finals if Cp3 did not go down for G6 and G7 last year.
Relevance?

[CAstill]

Bron stans going crazy. Lol at anyone not thinking it isn't nearly a 3peat. He made the finals then won the next two in a row including a redemption ring against the same team he previously lost to. Haters on here act like Kobe didn't tear up the league in 08. It's a shame that he brought a cast so below average that literally 2 basic role players was the difference in the finals. Celtics overall handled the series but there were plenty of times the Lakers could of took control if the roster outside of Kobe and Pau weren't trash. Ariza for sure would of made a difference. Bynum just for his fouls would of made a difference. Kobe the only one that would show up in Boston in both series.

[Prometheus]

Shaq dragged your hero bricking and screaming to 3 rings. Show some respect.

Shaq very openly admits that he wouldn't have won shit without Kobe. And although O'Neal's numbers look dramatically better in the Finals, Kobe was out-performing him in the Western conference playoffs (where the real competition was).

You don't really know anything about that era. You simply piggyback on false narratives, which is a very disingenuous and cowardly thing to do. I wonder if you idolize players with the same character deficiencies.

Kobe > Bran, always and forever.

[Andrei89]

Relevance?


Well you imply that KD failed to threepeat because he got injured.

Well Cp3 also got injured last year. Had Cp3 stayed healthy KD wouldn't even have the opportunity to threepeat this year even healthy.

Do I have to spoon feed you like a baby? Ever done some thinking?

[Mr Feeny]

Bron stans going crazy. Lol at anyone not thinking it isn't nearly a 3peat. He made the finals then won the next two in a row including a redemption ring against the same team he previously lost to. Haters on here act like Kobe didn't tear up the league in 08. It's a shame that he brought a cast so below average that literally 2 basic role players was the difference in the finals. Celtics overall handled the series but there were plenty of times the Lakers could of took control if the roster outside of Kobe and Pau weren't trash. Ariza for sure would of made a difference. Bynum just for his fouls would of made a difference. Kobe the only one that would show up in Boston in both series.

Never leading against Boston and losing in 6, and then getting swept in the 2nd round by Dallas in 2011, is not "nearly 3peating"

If you wanted to know why the Lakers weren't more competitive, it's simple. Kobe shot like trash. 40% for the series, and they lost a pivotal game 4 when Kobe choked down the stretch and watched Paul Pierve lead the Celtics to an NBA record 24 points finals comeback at Staples. 7-20 if I'm not mistaken, was Kobe. In that very close game.

[Manny98]

Jordan never 4-peated finals appearances

He never had a 6 year run as dominant as LeBron from 2011-2016

He retired after every 3-peat, pathetic

[Mr Feeny]

Jordan never 4-peated finals appearances

He never had a 6 year run as dominant as LeBron from 2011-2016

He retired after every 3-peat, pathetic

There is no demarcation at the finals. The goal is the championship. Jordan 3 peated twice. Lebron's entire career worth or championships is 3. And never sniffed a 3peat.

[Manny98]

There is no demarcation at the finals. The goal is the championship. Jordan 3 peated twice. Lebron's entire career worth or championships is 3. And never sniffed a 3peat.
And Jordan never sniffed a 6 year run as dominant as LeBron from 2012-2017 :applause:

Dominating for 6 consecutive years > 3-peating and then retiring like a bitch

[Prometheus]

And Jordan never sniffed a 6 year run as dominant as LeBron from 2012-2017 :applause:

Dominating for 6 consecutive years > 3-peating and then retiring like a bitch

MJ from 1988-1993 was better than any 6 years of LBJ's career by far.

[RRR3]

Never leading against Boston and losing in 6, and then getting swept in the 2nd round by Dallas in 2011, is not "nearly 3peating"

If you wanted to know why the Lakers weren't more competitive, it's simple. Kobe shot like trash. 40% for the series, and they lost a pivotal game 4 when Kobe choked down the stretch and watched Paul Pierve lead the Celtics to an NBA record 24 points finals comeback at Staples. 7-20 if I'm not mistaken, was Kobe. In that very close game.
Be prepared to be told how it was Pau

[3ball]

Put Kobe and Shaq on separate teams and give them the same cast that includes a Pau-level player or better

Kobe wins more rings ..

Shaq might not win any, since he always needed a goat wing to win

Kobe's all-round basketball ability simply needed less help... Only Kobe/MJ won multiple rings with 1 all-star teammate, except Shaq (who had Kobe), and Hakeem (when MJ was out of league)

[RRR3]

duh hurrrr durrr/

Literally incapable of understanding context

[3ball]

Literally incapable of understanding context
Shaq needed more help than kobe

Its historical fact... Kobe just needed Pau and his team was instantly the best

[Manny98]

MJ from 1988-1993 was better than any 6 years of LBJ's career by far.
He was getting spanked by the Pistons in the 2nd round for half of those years so no :oldlol:

[3ball]

He was getting spanked by the Pistons in the 2nd round for half of those years so no :oldlol:
MJ always won games off the Pistons and was very competitive, even when he had a 6 seed in 89'

Otoh, Lebron got swept twice and beaten by record amount twice, so he's the one that got "spanked" in his prime, not Jordan

And he got spanked with 2 seeds, while mj took the Pistons 6 games with a 6 seed

[RRR3]

Shaq needed more help than kobe

Its historical fact... Kobe just needed Pau and his team was instantly the best
You could argue Pau was the same level as 2000 Kobe. He certainly gave Kobe more help in the finals than Kobe gave Shaq in the 2000 finals.

[Overdrive]

Shaq very openly admits that he wouldn't have won shit without Kobe. And although O'Neal's numbers look dramatically better in the Finals, Kobe was out-performing him in the Western conference playoffs (where the real competition was).

You don't really know anything about that era. You simply piggyback on false narratives, which is a very disingenuous and cowardly thing to do. I wonder if you idolize players with the same character deficiencies.

Kobe > Bran, always and forever.

Kobe wouldn't have won any of 00-02 without Shaq either. Kobe played great in the WC, so did Shaq and he was double to triple teamed. I watched back then. The "Kobe was the MVP of the WC" narrative started way later. Around his repeat.

[Mr Feeny]

And Jordan never sniffed a 6 year run as dominant as LeBron from 2012-2017 :applause:

Dominating for 6 consecutive years > 3-peating and then retiring like a bitch
6 seems arbitrary. But even then, he absolutely did. The goal is to lead your team to a title. Jordan led his teams to 6 titles in 8 years.

We don't care about reaching the finals and then failing on the biggest stage. That isnt an accomplishment.

[Mr Feeny]

Kobe wouldn't have won any of 00-02 without Shaq either. Kobe played great in the WC, so did Shaq and he was double to triple teamed. I watched back then. The "Kobe was the MVP of the WC" narrative started way later. Around his repeat.

Shaq was the most dominant player on the planet buy a distance. Ofcourse he was the center of the opposition defense's attention. Duncan, Robinson, Mutumbo, Divac all found themselves tripping over their feet trying to guard him.

[Mr Feeny]

You could argue Pau was the same level as 2000 Kobe. He certainly gave Kobe more help in the finals than Kobe gave Shaq in the 2000 finals.

Pau led the lakers in winshares/48 in 2010. He was - by some metrics - slightly ahead of Kobe. Even if you'd argue that he was neck and neck or slightly below at best, that's much more help than Kobe gave Shaq in 2000.

[RRR3]

Pau led the lakers in winshares/48 in 2010. He was - by some metrics - slightly ahead of Kobe. Even if you'd argue that he was neck and neck or slightly below at best, that's much more help than Kobe gave Shaq in 2000.
No sense arguing with PromBetheus about Kobe. He thinks it makes him smart to make the “unconventional” take that Kobe>LeBron. Definition of a pseudo-intellectual.

[turner23x]

KD blew his Achilles out though

[Manny98]

6 seems arbitrary. But even then, he absolutely did. The goal is to lead your team to a title. Jordan led his teams to 6 titles in 8 years.

We don't care about reaching the finals and then failing on the biggest stage. That isnt an accomplishment.
So Jordan never had a 6 year run as dominant as LeBron ok

Thanks for playing

[CAstill]

Never leading against Boston and losing in 6, and then getting swept in the 2nd round by Dallas in 2011, is not "nearly 3peating"

If you wanted to know why the Lakers weren't more competitive, it's simple. Kobe shot like trash. 40% for the series, and they lost a pivotal game 4 when Kobe choked down the stretch and watched Paul Pierve lead the Celtics to an NBA record 24 points finals comeback at Staples. 7-20 if I'm not mistaken, was Kobe. In that very close game.

You can try to word it however you like but the fact remains is that he made the finals then won 2 in a row right after. A loss by 1 is the same as a loss by 20. Same result. He nearly 3peated isn't hyperbole. And lol @ shooting 40% who gives a damn? It's called playing a GOAT type defense. 08 Celtics spent the whole series focused on Kobe because the rest of the cast was subpar. Teams live and die by their star player (unless you're the old suns, they just die by the 3) and the Lakers followed that rule. It's why Kobe lead them to more wins than losses. I could give a damn about his efficiency when his overall effectiveness was GOAT tier. Ask 3ball about players who won multiple rings with the least amount of help, but you're too busy being ignorant to prove your point.

[jayfan]

Since the 2000's? Him and Jordan are the only ones to do it in the last 50 years

Yep. Pistons came soooo close. Just a phantom foul away in '88.


.

[Bosnian Sajo]

As the man...only Shaq was able to do it since the 2000's started.

Shaq is criminally underrated all time and is > Kobe and Duncan.

:oldlol:


2 players carrying a team to a three peat, but only 1 gets credit for it. Good ol Insidehoops.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Kobe nearly 3peated TWICE?

You mean going down 4-2 to Boston in 2008

Beating an Orlando Magic team with an recovering from injury all-star in 2009 (KG also was injured for the playoffs, so major asterisk)

Naturally getting gifted a FMVP that should have gone to Pau Gasol just because he was the media's golden boy in 2010

Swept as well as outplayed by Jason Terry in 2011

I'm trying to find that nearly 3peat


:roll: :roll: :roll:


I've read a looooooooooooooot of bullshit on this site, but lord have mercy does this take the cake.

[Bosnian Sajo]

They couldn't help but to stop ignoring him you absolute dullard, no one played as well as he did during that time.



And now back to not taking yall seriously lol. Enjoy rooting for the Lakers for the next couple of years :oldlol:

[SpaceJam]

:roll: :roll: :roll:


I've read a looooooooooooooot of bullshit on this site, but lord have mercy does this take the cake.

GIFTED an MVP in 2008 when it clearly should have gone to CP3
Phil Jackson openly admitting that Kobe was GIFTED all-d teams off name alone
GIFTED a FMVP in 2010 after being carried by Gasol

Prove me wrong brother

[RRR3]

GIFTED an MVP in 2008 when it clearly should have gone to CP3
Phil Jackson openly admitting that Kobe was GIFTED all-d teams off name alone
GIFTED a FMVP in 2010 after being carried by Gasol

Prove me wrong brother
GiftBe

[Mr Feeny]

You can try to word it however you like but the fact remains is that he made the finals then won 2 in a row right after. A loss by 1 is the same as a loss by 20. Same result. He nearly 3peated isn't hyperbole. And lol @ shooting 40% who gives a damn? It's called playing a GOAT type defense. 08 Celtics spent the whole series focused on Kobe because the rest of the cast was subpar. Teams live and die by their star player (unless you're the old suns, they just die by the 3) and the Lakers followed that rule. It's why Kobe lead them to more wins than losses. I could give a damn about his efficiency when his overall effectiveness was GOAT tier. Ask 3ball about players who won multiple rings with the least amount of help, but you're too busy being ignorant to prove your point.

In other words, you failed to rebut anything I've said. He was never close to a 3peat.

As far as his shooting percentage goes, his putrid shooting was the very reason they only won 2 games against that Celtics in 2008. Lebron - with a much weaker supporting cast - Tom them to the last minute of game 7. But when your star player bricks one shot after another at the tune of 40% for the series, you're not going to have a great chance of winning.

[Mr Feeny]

They couldn't help but to stop ignoring him you absolute dullard, no one played as well as he did during that time.



And now back to not taking yall seriously lol. Enjoy rooting for the Lakers for the next couple of years :oldlol:

Is this a joke?:lol what years are we talking? 2005-2007, Dirk was head and shoulders ahead of Kobe. In 2008, CP was so far ahead of him that it wasn't even funny, and Pierve outplayed him head to head on the biggest stage. 2009 onwards (if not 2008) lebron was already tiers ahead.