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3ball
07-26-2019, 12:51 AM
https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-26-2019/CPv63q.gif


That play broke a massive stalemate in overtime and won the playoff game for the Bulls

I don't see any player 6'5" or taller that is quicker laterally on D

Vino24
07-26-2019, 01:00 AM
why did you put this arbitrary cut off at 6'5? are you afraid of Dwayne Wade? :lol

3ball
07-26-2019, 01:11 AM
why did you put this arbitrary cut off at 6'5? are you afraid of Dwayne Wade? :lol
Not sure about wade

But I can think of guys that are 6'4" who can match 35-year MJ in lateral quickness

But i was having trouble thinking of anyone 6'5" or taller, hence the thread

Btw, i hear people lauding kawhi and PG13's defense but MJ made hero plays in the clutch that I haven't seen them make in big playoff moments

Kawhi did slow down Giannis, but I view that as Giannis having a very incomplete game - he was doomed, i.e. he was going to struggle regardless once a good team had a few games to figure him out

Vino24
07-26-2019, 01:16 AM
Not sure about wade

But I can think of guys that are 6'4" who can match 35-year MJ in lateral quickness

But i was having trouble thinking of anyone 6'5" or taller, hence the thread

Btw, i hear people lauding kawhi and PG13's defense but MJ made hero plays in the clutch that I haven't seen them make in big playoff moments

Kawhi did slow down Giannis, but I view that as Giannis having a very incomplete game - he was doomed, i.e. he was going to struggle regardless once a good team had a few games to figure him out
Pippen, Kobe, Metta world peace

Vino24
07-26-2019, 01:19 AM
Bruce Bowen

3ball
07-26-2019, 01:23 AM
Pippen, Kobe, Metta world peace
None of them have a case for being quickER

You'd think prime Pippen or Kobe could match him, but Pippen didn't have GUARD lateral quickness, as the gif below shows


https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-30-2019/iHvEZ1.gif


He was hella quick for a forward tho

bigkingsfan
07-26-2019, 01:26 AM
The guy that blocked MJ four times in a game.

Vino24
07-26-2019, 01:26 AM
None of them have a case for being quickER

You'd think prime Pippen or Kobe could match him, but Pippen didn't have GUARD lateral quickness, as the gif below shows


https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-30-2019/iHvEZ1.gif


He was hella quick for a forward tho
the thing is Pippen was able to guard much smaller players because he was quick AND long. length put pippen even with MJ defensively even tho MJ was quicker.

3ball
07-26-2019, 01:29 AM
The guy that blocked MJ four times in a game.
It's called a fluke - that happens over thousands of games

But a cursory glance at the MJ/Lewis matchups on YouTube shows mj crushing Lewis routinely
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3ball
07-26-2019, 01:42 AM
the thing is Pippen was able to guard much smaller players because he was quick AND long. length put pippen even with MJ defensively even tho MJ was quicker.
Ok, except Pippen never guarded much shorter players, except Mark Jackson, the slowest pg ever

And MJ was pretty long too. Only an inch shorter than kawhi.. same height/weight as Iggy (but superior physique, i.e. more tightly wound muscles than Iggy's white boy biceps)

bigkingsfan
07-26-2019, 02:05 AM
It's called a fluke - that happens over thousands of games

But a cursory glance at the MJ/Lewis matchups on YouTube shows mj crushing Lewis routinely
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TheCorporation
07-26-2019, 02:09 AM
The guy that blocked MJ four times in a game.

Reggie43
07-26-2019, 02:34 AM
Sprewell

Dom213
07-26-2019, 03:01 AM
2001 and 2003 Kobe

Dr Hawk
07-26-2019, 03:03 AM
No one.

Uncle Drew
07-26-2019, 03:07 AM
OP sprinting out of his ''retirement''.

Round Mound
07-26-2019, 03:24 AM
No one was.

Same could be said for players at 6'10 ft or taller none where quicker than Hakeem.

Same could be said for players at 250 lbs or heavier none where quicker than Barkley.

Check out the spin move on the baseline and dunk on Ewing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98-e--sWyto at minute 2:25

jstern
07-26-2019, 03:29 AM
Pippen, Kobe, Metta world peace

You're coming across as really being affected by 3ball. Or triggered, or one of those words. Might as well get yourself a wheelchair.

Gileraracer
07-26-2019, 03:38 AM
The guy that blocked MJ four times in a game.

Nate Robinson?

Phoenix
07-26-2019, 06:29 AM
No one was.

Same could be said for players at 6'10 ft or taller none where quicker than Hakeem.

Same could be said for players at 250 lbs or heavier none where quicker than Barkley.

Check out the spin move on the baseline and dunk on Ewing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98-e--sWyto at minute 2:25

Great Barkley highlights :applause:

sd3035
07-26-2019, 08:37 AM
https://media1.tenor.com/images/87c32a98eff4b49a81ce666043b23432/tenor.gif

Vino24
07-26-2019, 09:14 AM
https://media1.tenor.com/images/87c32a98eff4b49a81ce666043b23432/tenor.gif
Lol

Wally450
07-26-2019, 09:27 AM
I wish OP really would just retire and not come back. :rolleyes:

zeerghit
07-26-2019, 09:33 AM
GTFO
Peak Kirilenko, Kawhi, Allen, Johnson, Artest, Pippen, Fazier, Kobe, Payton, Prince..etc
all better than 35yr jordan..

nayte
07-26-2019, 09:35 AM
Troll fest aside. Could be interesting. Maybe blaze might know
Edit.. I thought it was the same age not at their primes. Silly thread

3ball
07-26-2019, 10:01 AM
Troll fest aside. Could be interesting. Maybe blaze might know
Edit.. I thought it was the same age not at their primes. Silly thread
I don't see anyone moving quickER laterally like the OP.. Pippen in his prime (or whoever) wasn't quicker laterally..

Vino24
07-26-2019, 10:04 AM
I don't see anyone moving quickER laterally like the OP.. Pippen in his prime (or whoever) wasn't quicker laterally..
Where are the lateral quickness stats? No proof. Just a couple grainy films

3ball
07-26-2019, 10:15 AM
Where are the lateral quickness stats? No proof. Just a couple grainy films
It's called eye test and yes it's subjective

But we can also look at who makes the big plays like the OP to win games

MJ got more clutch, game-breaking steals at 35 than ... Anybody did in their prime. :confusedshrug:

Manny98
07-26-2019, 10:26 AM
So a clip of MJ stripping the mighty Kerry Kittles somehow proves that MJ had better lateral quickness than prime Kobe,Pippen,Kawhi :oldlol:

Manny98
07-26-2019, 10:30 AM
https://media1.tenor.com/images/87c32a98eff4b49a81ce666043b23432/tenor.gif
:roll: :roll: :roll:

tpols
07-26-2019, 10:40 AM
Shawn Marion, Kobe, young Rodman, and probably a few more.

Nikola_
07-26-2019, 11:00 AM
Shawn Marion, Kobe, young Rodman, and probably a few more.

@ 35 yo ?

Vino24
07-26-2019, 11:02 AM
@ 35 yo ?
No. 3ball is claiming no player at ANY AGE had the lateral quickness of 35 year old MJ :oldlol:

Elosha
07-26-2019, 07:50 PM
No one was.

Same could be said for players at 6'10 ft or taller none where quicker than Hakeem.

Same could be said for players at 250 lbs or heavier none where quicker than Barkley.

Check out the spin move on the baseline and dunk on Ewing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98-e--sWyto at minute 2:25

Great Barkley clips. Man, he was abusing Xavier McDaniels, who was himself very strong, athletic, talented and MEAN as hell. Charles was making him look silly.

Round Mound
07-26-2019, 07:58 PM
Great Barkley clips. Man, he was abusing Xavier McDaniels, who was himself very strong, athletic, talented and MEAN as hell. Charles was making him look silly.

Indeed and McDaniel was a very good defensive player. This was prime and healthy Chuck a total different player than the one in Houston. On that spin move you can see how quick footed he was .

Im so nba'd out
07-26-2019, 08:04 PM
https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-26-2019/CPv63q.gif


Imagine actually bragging about stripping Kerry Kittles trying to dribble :roll:


It would be like a paul george fan bragging about stripping Tony Snell when he gets stuck with the ball and clock is running down and he has to do something.:roll:


Everyone knows he is just gonna try to blow by you with a straight line drive and _Ordan is forcing that bum (relative to nba players) to his weak hand :oldlol:....Like taking candy from a baby(with the baby using his non dominant hand)

I expected better OP....

Vino24
07-26-2019, 08:12 PM
Made this exact thread on realgm and got banned :oldlol:

BarberSchool
07-26-2019, 09:01 PM
Pippen, Kobe, Metta world peaceKobe was AS QUICK, the other two were not even as quick, much less quicker laterally.

Elosha
07-26-2019, 11:33 PM
Indeed and McDaniel was a very good defensive player. This was prime and healthy Chuck a total different player than the one in Houston. On that spin move you can see how quick footed he was .

Yes, Barkley was an absolute beast in Philly and Phoenix. During his prime, he may very well have been the most talented (not necessarily the greatest) PF of all time.

StrongLurk
07-26-2019, 11:35 PM
Easily young Lebron.