Dayton shooter was a devout "leftist" and hated Trump...

[stalkerforlife]

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/connor-betts-twitter-politics-social-media/

Another one

[Long Duck Dong]

And the Gilroy shooter was not a white supremacist. Anyone with half a brain could tell he wasn't by his social media postings. What kind of white supremacist proudly hails his Iranian heritage and posts photos of his grandfather in Islamic rags? :oldlol: Yet the Southern Poverty Law Center and Rolling Stone continued to push the narrative. Another, in a long line of Ls, taken by the SPLC recently. :facepalm

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/08/01/media-wrong-gilroy-shooters-white-supremacy-ideology-fbi-says/1893490001/

Btw a Hispanic man was arrested in Gilroy today for threatening to kill 500 people, saying he could do much better than this Gilroy shooter

[nathanjizzle]

fake news

[Long Duck Dong]

fake news

He's with you pal. You two are probably a LOT alike. You guys both have that victim mentality and have violent thoughts in your head. Don't forget you wanted to kill a car full of teenagers because you thought they made "ch1nky eyes" at your sister

[warriorfan]

He's with you pal. You two are probably a LOT alike. You guys both have that victim mentality and have violent thoughts in your head. Don't forget you wanted to kill a car full of teenagers because you thought they made "ch1nky eyes" at your sister

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[stalkerforlife]

He's with you pal. You two are probably a LOT alike. You guys both have that victim mentality and have violent thoughts in your head. Don't forget you wanted to kill a car full of teenagers because you thought they made "ch1nky eyes" at your sister

Got em.

[Shogon]

He's with you pal. You two are probably a LOT alike. You guys both have that victim mentality and have violent thoughts in your head. Don't forget you wanted to kill a car full of teenagers because you thought they made "ch1nky eyes" at your sister

:roll: :roll:

[stalkerforlife]

Never seen a poster log off so quickly.

Looooool.

Someone needs to keep an eye on Nathan.

[Prometheus]

jizzle

[Patrick Chewing]

Where did Little Nate go? Was going to ask him about this picture he posted a while back.

https://i.ibb.co/4jkjQhm/E01-CD563-1385-4007-A4-C7-08-F28-AA50-CAF.jpg


Not a good look for Nate.

[Turbo Slayer]

He's with you pal. You two are probably a LOT alike. You guys both have that victim mentality and have violent thoughts in your head. Don't forget you wanted to kill a car full of teenagers because you thought they made "ch1nky eyes" at your sister :wtf: :oldlol:

[Turbo Slayer]

Where did Little Nate go? Was going to ask him about this picture he posted a while back.

https://i.ibb.co/4jkjQhm/E01-CD563-1385-4007-A4-C7-08-F28-AA50-CAF.jpg


Not a good look for Nate. :eek:

[stalkerforlife]

Where did Little Nate go? Was going to ask him about this picture he posted a while back.

https://i.ibb.co/4jkjQhm/E01-CD563-1385-4007-A4-C7-08-F28-AA50-CAF.jpg


Not a good look for Nate.

And he's threatened to shoot a lot of people.

[stalkerforlife]

https://farkuserimg-850.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/M/MH/fark_MH5olETc01iZsAGa-6TPYQrv-KM.png?AWSAccessKeyId=HBAYEKZHGUB4NAYQBVSQ&Expires=1565582400&Signature=fIYRY994F%2BGI0DLWfkOU8xwegUs%3D

[BigKobeFan]

Where did Little Nate go? Was going to ask him about this picture he posted a while back.

https://i.ibb.co/4jkjQhm/E01-CD563-1385-4007-A4-C7-08-F28-AA50-CAF.jpg


Not a good look for Nate.

Lets deport this fool. Has all the red flags

[nathanjizzle]

the lame jokes in this thread prove the low quality of lives you guys live. I mean look at who youre associated with, stalker. hes like the lowest kind of life on this planet next to starving african babies with HIV, and i bet most of us would be happy to choose their circumstances over his. You people are pathetic and when i said i was too good for this forum and too good to converse with plebs I really meant it. How pathetic are your lives.

[Long Duck Dong]

the lame jokes in this thread prove the low quality of lives you guys live. I mean look at who youre associated with, stalker. hes like the lowest kind of life on this planet next to starving african babies with HIV, and i bet most of us would be happy to choose their circumstances over his. You people are pathetic and when i said i was too good for this forum and too good to converse with plebs I really meant it. How pathetic are your lives.

Why are African babies with HIV the "lowest kind of life"? :confusedshrug:

That's almost as racist as when you said Tiger Woods needs to not succumb to his "darker side" after he was arrested

[stalkerforlife]

Why are African babies with HIV the "lowest kind of life"? :confusedshrug:

That's almost as racist as when you said Tiger Woods needs to not succumb to his "darker side" after he was arrested

Another one.

Cast the net and the real racists reveal themselves.

[CelticBaller]

He's with you pal. You two are probably a LOT alike. You guys both have that victim mentality and have violent thoughts in your head. Don't forget you wanted to kill a car full of teenagers because you thought they made "ch1nky eyes" at your sister
:roll:

[Patrick Chewing]

the lame jokes in this thread prove the low quality of lives you guys live. I mean look at who youre associated with, stalker. hes like the lowest kind of life on this planet next to starving african babies with HIV, and i bet most of us would be happy to choose their circumstances over his. You people are pathetic and when i said i was too good for this forum and too good to converse with plebs I really meant it. How pathetic are your lives.


Please don

[oh the horror]

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]Please don

[Lakers Legend#32]

Sure he was.

[tomtucker]

Where did Little Nate go? Was going to ask him about this picture he posted a while back.

https://i.ibb.co/4jkjQhm/E01-CD563-1385-4007-A4-C7-08-F28-AA50-CAF.jpg


Not a good look for Nate.
here he is :lol :oldlol:

https://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhzz3t49uI0It4Kb35

[hold this L]

He's with you pal. You two are probably a LOT alike. You guys both have that victim mentality and have violent thoughts in your head. Don't forget you wanted to kill a car full of teenagers because you thought they made "ch1nky eyes" at your sister
This was funny until I saw the picture below. Someone needs to report this man.

:biggums:

[sd3035]

lmao, this Nathan guy got bodied

He seems like a mass shooter though, so it might be safer for society to stop pointing out how retarded he is

[ItsMillerTime]

I don't think it really matters what agenda the shooter has. All you retards that try to pin this on the race or the political leanings of these mass shooters aren't looking at the big picture.

The fact is this: unstable, crazy, mentally ill people are allowed to get their hands LEGALLY on high-powered weapons designed to kill. That should concern everyone.

[warriorfan]

I don't think it really matters what agenda the shooter has. All you retards that try to pin this on the race or the political leanings of these mass shooters aren't looking at the big picture.

The fact is this: unstable, crazy, mentally ill people are allowed to get their hands LEGALLY on high-powered weapons designed to kill. That should concern everyone.

Move to Canada

[ItsMillerTime]

Move to Canada

Ah yes, the "if you don't like it, you can move" deflection. Why prevent mass shootings when you can just move to another country! What a great observation.

[diamenz]

I don't think it really matters what agenda the shooter has. All you retards that try to pin this on the race or the political leanings of these mass shooters aren't looking at the big picture.

The fact is this: unstable, crazy, mentally ill people are allowed to get their hands LEGALLY on high-powered weapons designed to kill. That should concern everyone.

i don't think it's a gun issue. if guns were completely wiped off the face of the earth, people would find other ways to commit mass murder. bombs, vehicles, machetes in the middle of a crowded area, whatever they can come up with. high caliber clips sure don't help, though - that is true... but it's a mental health issue. people are mentally ill now more than any time in history. kids get bullied, people are depressed with no one to turn to, and eventually some of them just snap. this country needs to change the way that it thinks about everyday shit that we overlook and take for granted. until that happens, it's gonna be mo' murda (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjexC3phymM).

[ItsMillerTime]

i don't think it's a gun issue. if guns were completely wiped off the face of the earth, people would find other ways to commit mass murder. bombs, vehicles, machetes in the middle of a crowded area, whatever they can come up with. high caliber clips sure don't help, though - that is true... but it's a mental health issue. people are mentally ill now more than any time in history. kids get bullied, people are depressed with no one to turn to, and eventually some of them just snap. this country needs to change the way that it thinks about everyday shit that we overlook and take for granted. until that happens, it's gonna be mo' murda (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjexC3phymM).

Dude it's 100% a guns issue. Every other single nation on this planet does not have the problem that we have. What's the difference? Do those countries not have mentally ill people?

[Patrick Chewing]

Dude it's 100% a guns issue. Every other single nation on this planet does not have the problem that we have. What's the difference? Do those countries not have mentally ill people?


If it was a gun issue you ignorant ****, there would be massacres across this country on a daily basis. There are more guns than people currently in this country in the hands of those that own them. We aren't the problem.

You're basically saying that my legal right to own a gun should be vanquished because some guy decided to kill people. Why? I don't use my guns to kill people. Why should we have to give up our weapons?

I'll await a sensible and logical response from a dimwit like you.

[Long Duck Dong]

Dude it's 100% a guns issue. Every other single nation on this planet does not have the problem that we have. What's the difference? Do those countries not have mentally ill people?

Mexico has one gun store in the entire nation and their gun violence completely eclipses the US.

[diamenz]

Dude it's 100% a guns issue. Every other single nation on this planet does not have the problem that we have. What's the difference? Do those countries not have mentally ill people?

alright, for argument's sake let's say it's a gun issue. what do u suggest? ban weapons that use high caliber and high round magazines? where do we draw the line on that? is that even realistic in this political climate? if the next mass shooter is strapped up with ten pistols and kills over fifty people, do we ban pistols next?

do u really think that people won't come up with new and effective ways to commit mass murder without guns?

[Long Duck Dong]

Dayton was a HUGE Elizabeth Warren fan and tweeted last December

"This is America: Guns on every corner, guns in every house, no freedom but to kill.”

A month before that, he wrote:

"Vote blue for gods sake"

You liberals have some explaining to do

[dude77]

and the el paso shooter turns out has had his views long before trump and criticized both dems and reps ..

the left narrative :


https://media2.giphy.com/media/iazocTLOsKzFS/giphy.gif

[TheMan]

Mexico has one gun store in the entire nation and their gun violence completely eclipses the US.
Enormous amounts of guns cross the border from the US to Mexico (thanks US!) that eventually ends up in the hands of cartel thugs...in case you never heard before but we have a serious problem with drug cartels fighting it out for control of points of entry into the US thanks to your insatiable lust for narcotics.

So to sum it up, we have gun violence courtesy of American weapons and cartel violence thanks to your unending need for drugs :confusedshrug:

What gun violence WE DON'T HAVE is the kind that plagues your society with the easy access to guns, we don't have weirdos shooting up schools, churches, concerts, malls, movie theaters etc. We don't have idiots pulling out handguns because of road rage, we don't have kids shooting up a party because he grabbed his dad's shotgun. Our gun violence is mostly limited to drug cartel members fighting it out amongst themselves or the Mexican Army or police.

No one I know owns a gun, they are still hard to get if you aren't involved in organized crime. If you go around just minding your own business, it's a pretty safe country to live in, and you most likely will never have a gun pulled out on you, our most pressing security issues (drug cartel gun violence) can easily find its origins due to our proximity to the world's leading drug consumer and gun manufacturer...

[Long Duck Dong]

Enormous amounts of guns cross the border from the US to Mexico (thanks US!) that eventually ends up in the hands of cartel thugs...in case you never heard before but we have a serious problem with drug cartels fighting it out for control of points of entry into the US thanks to your insatiable lust for narcotics.

So to sum it up, we have gun violence courtesy of American weapons and cartel violence thanks to your unending need for drugs :confusedshrug:

What gun violence WE DON'T HAVE is the kind that plagues your society with the easy access to guns, we don't have weirdos shooting up schools, churches, concerts, malls, movie theaters etc. We don't have idiots pulling out handguns because of road rage, we don't have kids shooting up a party because he grabbed his dad's shotgun. Our gun violence is mostly limited to drug cartel members fighting it out amongst themselves or the Mexican Army or police.

No one I know owns a gun, they are still hard to get if you aren't involved in organized crime. If you go around just minding your own business, it's a pretty safe country to live in, and you most likely will never have a gun pulled out on you, our most pressing security issues (drug cartel gun violence) can easily find its origins due to our proximity to the world's leading drug consumer and gun manufacturer...

The amount of firearms coming into Mexico from the US is going down and down. You guys are getting more and more firearms from Eastern Europe, Southeast Asia, and possibly even China. Lots of narcos are being caught with Chinese AKs which haven't been imported into the US since 1994. If not one gun made it across the border into Mexico it would have little effect on your gun violence. Your narcos know where to get em. Hell a lot of them are supplied by your own military.

[Patrick Chewing]

No one I know owns a gun, they are still hard to get if you aren't involved in organized crime. If you go around just minding your own business, it's a pretty safe country to live in, and you most likely will never have a gun pulled out on you, our most pressing security issues (drug cartel gun violence) can easily find its origins due to our proximity to the world's leading drug consumer and gun manufacturer...


Eres tremenda culebra. You're blaming us for all your problems. :lol

[TheMan]

Eres tremenda culebra. You're blaming us for all your problems. :lol
No, of course not but is it true or untrue that the US is the world's largest consumer of illegal narcotics? Recently Mexican former heads of states were pushing for the legalization of narcotics here to take the criminal element out but the US government is vehemently against that...so the stupid war on drugs continue and people still use drugs at record numbers.

A lot of American weapons are still smuggled into Mexico via the US because of how easy it is to obtain them in the US.

[TheMan]

The amount of firearms coming into Mexico from the US is going down and down. You guys are getting more and more firearms from Eastern Europe, Southeast Asia, and possibly even China. Lots of narcos are being caught with Chinese AKs which haven't been imported into the US since 1994. If not one gun made it across the border into Mexico it would have little effect on your gun violence. Your narcos know where to get em. Hell a lot of them are supplied by your own military.
This isn't true at all...



Research shows that a majority of guns in Mexico can be traced to the U.S. A report from the U.S Government Accountability Office showed that 70 percent of guns seized in Mexico by Mexican authorities and submitted for tracing have a U.S. origin. This percentage remains consistent, said Bradley Engelbert, a spokesperson for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. And the Trump administration has recently taken steps to ease rules on gun exports, which enables manufacturers to sell guns in Mexico and Central America countries.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/the-flow-of-guns-from-the-u-s-to-mexico-is-getting-lost-in-the-border-debate

Why the hell would cartels get their guns elsewhere when they are easily and legally available right next door? Makes no sense to try to get them from Europe or Asia where it would be harder to smuggle all the way to Mexico. And the Trump administration just relaxed exporting guns rules so now it's actually even easier to export them into Mexico :facepalm

[DaHeezy]

I don't think it really matters what agenda the shooter has. All you retards that try to pin this on the race or the political leanings of these mass shooters aren't looking at the big picture.

The fact is this: unstable, crazy, mentally ill people are allowed to get their hands LEGALLY on high-powered weapons designed to kill. That should concern everyone.

It goes both ways...

[NumberSix]

No, of course not but is it true or untrue that the US is the world's largest consumer of illegal narcotics? Recently Mexican former heads of states were pushing for the legalization of narcotics here to take the criminal element out but the US government is vehemently against that...so the stupid war on drugs continue and people still use drugs at record numbers.

A lot of American weapons are still smuggled into Mexico via the US because of how easy it is to obtain them in the US.
So, if the gun problem in Mexico is america

[Long Duck Dong]

This isn't true at all...



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/the-flow-of-guns-from-the-u-s-to-mexico-is-getting-lost-in-the-border-debate

Why the hell would cartels get their guns elsewhere when they are easily and legally available right next door? Makes no sense to try to get them from Europe or Asia where it would be harder to smuggle all the way to Mexico. And the Trump administration just relaxed exporting guns rules so now it's actually even easier to export them into Mexico :facepalm

The 70%(and the 90% report before that) has already been debunked. Are there a lot of guns coming to Mexico from the US? Yes. Is it anywhere near 70 or 90%? No. You see those are the figures of guns the Mexican government gave the US to trace. The Mexican government only gives the US guns to trace that it thinks come from the US. One report has only 12% of the all guns seized in Mexico traced back to US.

[QUOTE]"The Mexican government requests traces only for certain arms which have a high possibility of being American arms," he said. "So guns that are, for example, stolen from the Mexican military, which is a huge source of crime guns in Mexico,...they don

[TheMan]

[QUOTE=NumberSix]So, if the gun problem in Mexico is america

[NumberSix]

It would be if Mexican drug dealers were forcing innocent Americans into using drugs but we all know junkies aren't being forced against their will to take drugs...
But Americans are forcing cartels to murder people?

[MaxFly]

I don't think it really matters what agenda the shooter has. All you retards that try to pin this on the race or the political leanings of these mass shooters aren't looking at the big picture.

The fact is this: unstable, crazy, mentally ill people are allowed to get their hands LEGALLY on high-powered weapons designed to kill. That should concern everyone.

The agenda of shooters in mass shootings does matter. If we're going to deal with this rising epidemic of mass shootings is an effective way, we first need to acknowledge that it's an issue with multifarious roots. It's certainly true that these individuals are mentally unstable. We need better services to identify and treat individuals who are silently, and sometimes not so silently suffering with mental instability.

We also need to deal with the fact that their ideology, agenda and motivations will determine how they are radicalized and which populations they target. An extreme and radicalized Black Lives Matter protester is highly unlikely to shoot up a black church during a prayer and bible study service. A focus on the ideology of many of these people may make it easier to identify them and determine just how much of a real threat they pose.

And yes, we have a major gun problem in this country. There was a guy who went on a stabbing rampage last year, attacking a bunch of kids (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/01/us/mass-stabbing-boise-idaho.html). It's not unique... and even more gruesome attack (https://www.rt.com/news/353242-tokyo-stabbing-killed-rampage/) occurred in Tokyo a few years ago. How many more people would have been injured and died had someone that unstable and dangerous had access to an AR-15. There are no easy solutions here, and few are talking about banning all guns, but we do need to have a serious debate about how we keep guns out of the hands of unstable, hate-filled individuals.

We have to attack the problem from every side.

[NumberSix]

I don't think it really matters what agenda the shooter has. All you retards that try to pin this on the race or the political leanings of these mass shooters aren't looking at the big picture.

The fact is this: unstable, crazy, mentally ill people are allowed to get their hands LEGALLY on high-powered weapons designed to kill. That should concern everyone.
Terrorism is inherently ideological. The ideological leanings of the terrorist is literally THE MOST important factor. That’s what makes it terrorism.

Its just as important in the case of white Supremacist/nationalist terror that we don’t play the stupid games that people play with Islamist terror where they try to obfuscate the issue.

These guys have some kind of race war fantasy where they think that if race relations get bad enough, whites will “come to their senses” and embrace racial nationalism.

Not only do these people want more white on minority violence, they also want to provoke minority on white violence. Their goal is to make whites and non-whites see each other as “the enemy” to such a degree that it ushers in a racial separatism movement that ultimately results in a whites-only “ethno-state”.

This is CLEARLY their motivation and it benefits everyone to understand what these people are doing and why they’re doing it.

[Overdrive]

i don't think it's a gun issue. if guns were completely wiped off the face of the earth, people would find other ways to commit mass murder. bombs, vehicles, machetes in the middle of a crowded area, whatever they can come up with. high caliber clips sure don't help, though - that is true... but it's a mental health issue. people are mentally ill now more than any time in history. kids get bullied, people are depressed with no one to turn to, and eventually some of them just snap. this country needs to change the way that it thinks about everyday shit that we overlook and take for granted. until that happens, it's gonna be mo' murda (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjexC3phymM).


Dude it's 100% a guns issue. Every other single nation on this planet does not have the problem that we have. What's the difference? Do those countries not have mentally ill people?


If it was a gun issue you ignorant ****, there would be massacres across this country on a daily basis. There are more guns than people currently in this country in the hands of those that own them. We aren't the problem.

You're basically saying that my legal right to own a gun should be vanquished because some guy decided to kill people. Why? I don't use my guns to kill people. Why should we have to give up our weapons?

I'll await a sensible and logical response from a dimwit like you.


alright, for argument's sake let's say it's a gun issue. what do u suggest? ban weapons that use high caliber and high round magazines? where do we draw the line on that? is that even realistic in this political climate? if the next mass shooter is strapped up with ten pistols and kills over fifty people, do we ban pistols next?

do u really think that people won't come up with new and effective ways to commit mass murder without guns?

I like how you guys argue that's either a gun or mental health issues.

It's a gun & mental health issue. Why should some lunatic be allowed to carry a gun, no matter the make.

Guns as in pistols and rifles are allowed here. You have to get a license and you can't keep your gun loaded in your closet. The ammo must be stored away so kids can't access it.

Also if you have treatment for a mental illness, depending on the degree, the right to own a gun will be revoked.

We have like 0 homicides by guns/year.

Sometimes the balkan mafia does some crazy shit, but it stays within them.

[LostCause]

There’s a false equivalence with this

The El Paso shooter we know carried out his attack because of his political ideology. He left a manifesto stating exactly why and what motivated him. The connection is blatantly obvious

The Dayton shooter doesn’t have that. There’s no link between what he did and his political beliefs. In fact, going by his social media, it’s the complete opposite as he was previously outraged by shootings and he didn’t have any political reason to do what he did.

Honestly, the Dayton thing doesn’t even add up. The only explanation for his actions could be due to mental illness as he suffered from extreme bipolar disorder, as his ex girlfriend stated

Him being a liberal absolutely has no bearing on anything. That’s not the case for the El Paso shooter, however

[warriorfan]

[QUOTE=LostCause]There

[Hawker]

[QUOTE=LostCause]There

[tomtucker]

[QUOTE=LostCause]There

[LostCause]

Extreme liberals doing things for no reason? No way! :lol
I never said he didn

[NumberSix]

I never said he didn’t have a reason, just that his reason clearly wasn’t tied to political ideology.
It’s incorrect to say the Dayton shooter was definitely motivated by politics. It’s also incorrect to say he definitely wasn’t. The truth is, we don’t at this point understand what his motive was. We’re going to have to wait for all the facts.

[qrich]

:lol

Liberal talking points are out.

Where did we see this in the past....