No more loyalty in the game

[Walk on Water]

Guys are just switching teams like it

[LAmbruh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7fAwHRV-PA

[HylianNightmare]

In the world really

[Akeem34TheDream]

Well you shouldn't have mentioned Shaq.

[Overdrive]

Pippen lol. As soon as MJ was gone he was too.

[scuzzy]

More to do with finances than loyalty


Huge increase in cap has allowed multiple players on the same team to receive a max deal, focusssing more on winning and team success, rather than income


Instead of this:


https://i.postimg.cc/tJwtMPNN/fgjdfgjfdgj.png (https://postimages.org/)


You can now spread it like this:

https://i.postimg.cc/FFBZz5Xk/ffghfghfgh.png (https://postimages.org/)


With lack of pre-millennium endorsements, if you were a A-list star you're best route was to find a team with no big names and stick there for the long haul. Otherwise you're looking at a 50%+ cut going elsewhere and trying to build a good roster

TLDR: Free agency is far more lax now and player friendly

[Vino24]

More to do with finances than loyalty


Huge increase in cap has allowed multiple players on the same team to receive a max deal, focusssing more on winning and team success, rather than income


Instead of this:


https://i.postimg.cc/tJwtMPNN/fgjdfgjfdgj.png (https://postimages.org/)


You can now spread it like this:

https://i.postimg.cc/FFBZz5Xk/ffghfghfgh.png (https://postimages.org/)


With lack of pre-millennium endorsements, if you were a A-list star you're best route was to find a team with no big names and stick there for the long haul. Otherwise you're looking at a 50%+ cut going elsewhere and trying to build a good roster

TLDR: Free agency is far more lax now and player friendly
Wow didn

[DukeDelonte13]

Small market teams are just the minor leagues now.

[sdot_thadon]

I get the gist of your post, but to be honest the financial aspect is the only reason for the shift. Not only more chances at a payday out there, but shorter contracts overall too. I'd rather be loyal to my family's future than to an organization that will put me out of my misery once I've outlived my use. By the way, I love this part of your post:


Or even guys that stay most of their careers on one team like Pippen and Jordan.

Lebron on his 4th team.

Pippen played 12 total years for the bulls. 4 in Portland. 1 in Houston.

Lebron played 11 total years in Cleveland. 4 in Miami. 1 so far in L.a.

if the Cavs are 2 teams for Lebron's career, then the bulls are also 2 for Scottie's.

Nostalgia is a bitch ain't it?

[Keno]

Loyalty is overrated anyways, it

[Walk on Water]

I get the gist of your post, but to be honest the financial aspect is the only reason for the shift. Not only more chances at a payday out there, but shorter contracts overall too. I'd rather be loyal to my family's future than to an organization that will put me out of my misery once I've outlived my use. By the way, I love this part of your post:

Pippen played 12 total years for the bulls. 4 in Portland. 1 in Houston.

Lebron played 11 total years in Cleveland. 4 in Miami. 1 so far in L.a.

if the Cavs are 2 teams for Lebron's career, then the bulls are also 2 for Scottie's.

Nostalgia is a bitch ain't it?

How are the Bulls 2 for Pippen? He stayed until the end.

[Vino24]

MJ quit on the Bulls twice and joined the wizards. Loyalty.

[sdot_thadon]

How are the Bulls 2 for Pippen? He stayed until the end.
Sounds like you've got homework to do.

[MJ(Mean John)]

[QUOTE=Walk on Water]Guys are just switching teams like it

[E_Stamkos]

[QUOTE=Keno]Loyalty is overrated anyways, it

[jlip]

"Loyalty is something that hurts you at times, because you can't get youth back. I can honestly say that if I could go back and do my situation over, knowing what I know now with this organization, I'd have done it a little sooner."

-KG back in 2010 when asked what Lebron should do that offseason
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[FireDavidKahn]

Loyalty goes both ways. Owners aren't loyal for shit.

[Keno]

Jives perfectly for pathetic player fans like yourself who jock d1ck instead of an actual team.

:cheers:

Who says I don

[E_Stamkos]

[QUOTE=Keno]Who says I don

[tpols]

these guys even leave teams they just won a championship with...

who the **** does that?

[RRR3]

these guys even leave teams they just won a championship with...

who the **** does that?
Literally no one except Kawhi as far as superstars.

[Stringer Bell]

Wow didn’t realize Pippen made so much less than MJ :biggums: :wtf:

Jordan had signed a long term contract in the late 80s to go thru the 95-96 season, and Pippen signed it in the early 90s to go thru the 97-98 season. Chicago management actually advised Scottie not to take a long term contract. They told him to sign a shorter contract because the salaries would increase due to the collecting bargaining agreement. But Pippen was stubborn and wanted the security, so he took a long term contract.

Eventually the salaries started skyrocketing and Pippen wanted to renegotiate. Chicago management was like “dude we told you, your ass just didn’t listen, now go fulfill your contract”. I’m not sure if Chicago was even allowed to renegotiate due to the CBA rules at the time. So Scottie got pissed.

Jordan was offered 2 years/$36 mil after the 72 win season, which was crazy at that time, and instead did a one year deal for $30 mil. And then did it again the next year.

There was a whole lot of beef between Pippen and Chicago management during his last few years in Chicago. Chicago almost traded him to the team that originally drafted him, Seattle, in 1994, and I think again in 1997 for a trade involving T-Mac. Jordan stepped in and said no way.

The increasing salaries from the CBA made a lot of players disgruntled. Shawn Kemp threw a season-long hissy fit when that backup center got a bigger contract than him.

[Stringer Bell]

How are the Bulls 2 for Pippen? He stayed until the end.

Huh?

Pippen bolted the Bulls as soon as he could after his contract expired in 1998, after constantly whining for years that the Bulls should trade him. Because Scottie didn’t listen to Chicago management and ended up signing a long-term deal despite them telling him it was a bad idea and would cost him lots of money in the long run.

He constantly asked to be traded throughout the 94-95 season. Then he got a little happier when Jordan came back and they were kicking ass, but would still frequently talk about being traded because he was mad about being underpaid. There was an infamous incident in around 97’ or so when he yelled at Jerry Krause for a long bus ride and bitched and whined about how he should be traded.

He went to Houston for that short strike season and then went to Portland. He came back to Chicago at the very end of his career when he was a shell of himself. Pippen staying in Chicago for so long had little to do with loyalty and largely to do with him signing a bad contract, even with the advice of Chicago management looking out for him.