Will we ever see another player lead everyone in everything for an entire finals?

[Vino24]

or was LeBron doing it a one off thing?

[bigkingsfan]

Forget the finals, it has never been done in the earlier rounds.

[Vino24]

Forget the finals, it has never been done in the earlier rounds.
should we lower expectations to include any round? damn :oldlol: that also includes the 5 game series that Ordan played in. Shit Lebron would have done it 5 times in the 90's

[LAmbruh]

not against the greatest team of all time



will never be surpassed :applause:

[PickernRoller]

Someone went dumpster diving on the recycling bin.

[Vino24]

Someone went dumpster diving on the recycling bin.
aww you should try contributing instead of being a sour puss

[GimmeThat]

I think so, since having a player leading everyone in everything for an entire finals isn't a guaranteed victory as long as the other team duplicate positions at a better rate

[Bawkish]

or was LeBron doing it a one off thing?

last time i checked 2019 playoffs it seemed like his name is missing

what gives? :confusedshrug:

[brooks_thompson]

Yeah, probably. And probably within the next 10 years. Far from one of James' greatest achievements, though it does tickle the eye.

[StrongLurk]

:applause: :rockon: :cheers: :banana: :bowdown:

[Turbo Slayer]

Not in another 50 years, at least Vino.

[egokiller]

or was LeBron doing it a one off thing?

Will we ever see a 73 win team get to the finals and then have 3 starters injured and a 4th starter suspended? Team was so hampered that Kyrie and Lebron both scored 41 points in the same game on like 71% and 59% efficiency

:roll:

Try again Airbonner :lol

[Vino24]

Not in another 50 years, at least Vino.
:eek:

[Manny98]

Maybe his son or someone with his GOAT DNA

[AirFederer]

Maybe his son or someone with his GOAT DNA

ote:
Originally Posted by Manny98
1. MJ
2.Kareem
3. Shaq
4. Hakeem
5. Russell
6. Wilt
7. Duncan
8. Magic
9. Bird
10. Kobe
11. Lebron


He's not top 10 but definitely top 20
:eek: :confusedshrug:

[elementally morale]

I hope not. Players like that never win anything.

[SpaceJam2]

Players that have lead all players for an entire playoff series in points, rebounds, assists:

LeBron: x2 (2015, 2016)

All other NBA players combined: 0

[Vino24]

Players that have lead all players for an entire playoff series in points, rebounds, assists:

LeBron: x2 (2015, 2016)

All other NBA players combined: 0
:eek: :bowdown:

[Bronbron23]

or was LeBron doing it a one off thing?
Probably not. Just like we'll probably never see a guy win 6 rings again or complete two threepeats or win the defensive player of the year, scoring title and MVP all in one year.

[Vino24]

Probably not. Just like we'll probably never see a guy win 6 rings again or complete two threepeats or win the defensive player of the year, scoring title and MVP all in one year.
Horry won 7

[Bronbron23]

Horry won 7
What were horry stats again? Mj and Bron are close to equals because there close in pretty much everything. Stats, accolades and wins. Horry is missing two of the necessary criteria.

[Manny98]

Probably not. Just like we'll probably never see a guy win 6 rings again or complete two threepeats or win the defensive player of the year, scoring title and MVP all in one year.
Those are team accomplishements so they don't count

[Shogon]

I hope not. Players like that never win anything.

"Never win anything"... literally wins the title the very year he did it in the Finals.

What?

[Bronbron23]

Those are team accomplishements so they don't count
MVP, scoring title and dpoy all in the same season is a team accomplishment?

[SouBeachTalents]

"Never win anything"... literally wins the title the very year he did it in the Finals.

What?
:oldlol:

[Manny98]

MVP, scoring title and dpoy all in the same season is a team accomplishment?
Everyone knows that was Hakeems DPOY :oldlol:

[Bronbron23]

Everyone knows that was Hakeems DPOY :oldlol:
Ahhhh actually no they don't. Mj had more than three steals a game that year and alomost had 2 blocks a game as a gaurd. That's insane. To put it into perspective mj pretty much had twice as much steals that year than any of LeBron's and that's not a diss. LeBron was a great defender up until the last year or two

[Manny98]

"steals and blocks" is not defense

[SpaceJam2]

:eek: :bowdown:


And

JUST

LIKE

THAT

[SpaceJam2]

Players that have lead all players for an entire playoff series in points, rebounds, assists:

LeBron: x2 (2015, 2016)

All other NBA players combined: 0


Anyone?

[LostCause]

I think so, yes

Giannis has the ability to do it especially if he faces up against a team similar to those Warriors (Who didn’t have anyone that would put up tons of assists, boards Or blocks. Which doesn’t take away from them as a team btw)

A guy like Jokic could probably do it in similar circumstances

It’s a perfect storm of circumstances and ability that allowed LeBron to do it (ie, he obviously wouldn’t do that up against Shaq/Kobe Lakers, Duncan’s Spurs or even Magic’s Lakers much less the 90s Bulls even if the Warriors were a better team than some of them). I don’t think its unreasonable that given the trajectory of the league and style of play those circumstances happen more often for versatile superstars

[rmt]

Players that have lead all players for an entire playoff series in points, rebounds, assists:

LeBron: x2 (2015, 2016)

All other NBA players combined: 0

Is that all players on both teams or just on player's team?

[rmt]

Players that have lead all players for an entire playoff series in points, rebounds, assists:

LeBron: x2 (2015, 2016)

All other NBA players combined: 0

I'm guessing that you mean on the player's team since at first glance, Isaiah Thomas averaged more assists than Lebron did in their 2015 playoff series.

I'll bite.

Duncan led the Spurs in points (24.7), rebounds (15.4) and assists (5.3) in each playoff series and the entire 2003 playoffs.

He also averaged more blocks than any other Spur for the entire 2003 playoffs (but not for Lakers series where Bowen averaged 0.2 blocks more than TD).

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2003.html

[Manny98]

[QUOTE=LostCause]I think so, yes

Giannis has the ability to do it especially if he faces up against a team similar to those Warriors (Who didn

[The Iron Fist]

Horry won 7
Derek Fisher>>>Le6losses. Le11th. LegiveswayFMVP.

[LostCause]

Why didn't the so called GOAT have the ability to do it :confusedshrug:

Jordan did, and almost did it a couple times himself (He lead his team in everything but rebounds in the 91 Semis and Finals. Again in the 93 Conf Finals. Almost did it in 89 against NY, Missed out on doing it by 2 assists in the 97 Semis etc )

Big difference is his era made it pretty tough to do so. You think LeBron would be grabbing more boards than Rodman/Barkley/Malone, More blocks than Kemp or or more assists than Magic and Stockton in a playoff series? Obviously not

Reading is hard. LeBron did it due to both his own talent and some extremely favorable circumstances that make it easier to accomplish as compared to other eras/teams. For evidence of that, you think LeBron would even do it against the lob city Clippers? Probably not, as he won

[scuzzy]

You think LeBron would be grabbing more boards than Rodman/Barkley/Malone, More blocks than Kemp or or more assists than Magic and Stockton in a playoff series? Obviously not


Uh yes, lol

Love and Thompson were both 2 of the leagues best rebounders, as was Green

And MJ wasn't playing Stockton and Magic every series, he had plenty of opportunities but couldn't capitalize. No biggie, it is what it is

[superduper]

VERY worthy of the 11th best player all time :bowdown:

[LostCause]

Uh yes, lol

:biggums: :oldlol:


Love and Thompson were both 2 of the leagues best rebounders, as was Green

You guys are on record disparaging Love for playing like trash in the Finals and having a concussion. Surely we aren’t just ignoring that now for sake of argument? Not to mention he played half the minutes Bron did due to injury

Also, Thompson and Green? Lol.

What about Bogut who clearly would’ve led both teams in blocks but also got injured? See how “circumstance” works? :confusedshrug:


And MJ wasn't playing Stockton and Magic every series, he had plenty of opportunities but couldn't capitalize. No biggie, it is what it is

Exactly. Hence circumstance. Style of play/Era has a huge impact here, as does the respective teams. I doubt you’re unaware of this so I’m guessing you’re offended I suggested there’s more at play for it to occur than one players ability?

[And1AllDay]

maybe but probably not all 5 cats

maybe all 3 but not all 5

[And1AllDay]

Players that have lead all players for an entire playoff series in points, rebounds, assists:

LeBron: x2 (2015, 2016)

All other NBA players combined: 0


goodness

:eek:

[3ball]

Leading everyone in scoring by a lot, and still be a great all-round player that is close in all other categories

>

Leading everyone in scoring by tiny amount, and the other categories by tiny amounts



Btw - in the 97' playoffs, MJ led the bulls in pts, assists, and steals (led pts by 12 ppg over pip), with 1 less block than Pippen total, and 0.3 rpg less than rodman.. so he basically led all.players in the 5 categories, including a 12 pt lead in scoring

[egokiller]

Is this what OP does when he realizes 3/9 just isn't good.... like at all? :lol

Pick random things to try and over embellish someone that failed to take MJ's throne?

[Vino24]

Leading everyone in scoring by a lot, and still be a great all-round player that is close in all other categories

>

Leading everyone in scoring by tiny amount, and the other categories by tiny amounts



Btw - in the 97' playoffs, MJ led the bulls in pts, assists, and steals (led pts by 12 ppg over pip), with 1 less block than Pippen total, and 0.3 rpg less than rodman.. so he basically led all.players in the 5 categories, including a 12 pt lead in scoring
No it

[And1AllDay]

I'm guessing that you mean on the player's team since at first glance, Isaiah Thomas averaged more assists than Lebron did in their 2015 playoff series.

I'll bite.

Duncan led the Spurs in points (24.7), rebounds (15.4) and assists (5.3) in each playoff series and the entire 2003 playoffs.

He also averaged more blocks than any other Spur for the entire 2003 playoffs (but not for Lakers series where Bowen averaged 0.2 blocks more than TD).

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2003.html


both teams

think hard and try again :oldlol:

[And1AllDay]

Leading everyone in scoring by a lot, and still be a great all-round player that is close in all other categories

>

Leading everyone in scoring by tiny amount, and the other categories by tiny amounts



Btw - in the 97' playoffs, MJ led the bulls in pts, assists, and steals (led pts by 12 ppg over pip), with 1 less block than Pippen total, and 0.3 rpg less than rodman.. so he basically led all.players in the 5 categories, including a 12 pt lead in scoring


the mike formula is
41% fg
2 assits
4 reb

facing a #2 optoin that scores 10 ppg

cool formula

[3ball]

the mike formula is
41% fg
2 assits
4 reb

facing a #2 optoin that scores 10 ppg

cool formula
Jordan's 98' Finals were the biggest burden ever in a Finals (38.3% of team points), goat clutch and goat D

And you can't knock the Jazz because it was a 2-star vs. 2-star format back then - if you gave those Jazz an extra perennial all-star to match the Big 3 format of recent years, they would sweep the Warriors and Lebron's team worse than they swept Shaq's 4 all-star Lakers or Popovich/Duncan Spurs

:cheers:

[And1AllDay]

Jordan's 98' Finals were the biggest burden ever in a Finals (38.3% of team points), goat clutch and goat D

And you can't knock the Jazz because it was a 2-star vs. 2-star format back then - if you gave those Jazz an extra perennial all-star to match the Big 3 format of recent years, they would sweep the Warriors and Lebron's team worse than they swept Shaq's 4 all-star Lakers or Popovich/Duncan Spurs

:cheers:

41% fg

2 assists

4 rebounds

no

[Vino24]

Not likely :(

[SpaceJam2]

I dont think we will Vino

[AirBonner]

LeDonthicc might be the next one. He is promising and seems to have impact. Still a stretch tho