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egokiller
08-17-2019, 03:33 PM
pastis vs AW in the ultimate German Das Boot Oktoberfest drinking contest.

We fly DaHeezy down to the black forest to use his skills in choosing the perfect brew for this contest.

Who you all got?

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn251/beerfestboots/LB0825_beerro_08-25-06_0R1PBQ7.jpg

https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/24/7d/38/sarasota.jpg

Prometheus
08-17-2019, 03:34 PM
pastis wins. pure blood

pastis
08-17-2019, 04:20 PM
Im studying in Bavaria and im member of a fencing fraternity. I have the advantage in drinking and duelling with sabres. Other than that AW wins. he is young and currently at the police academy

https://c8.alamy.com/compde/ar5pw8/junge-manner-in-bayerischer-tracht-am-1-mai-feier-muensing-bayern-deutschland-ar5pw8.jpg




https://media.diepresse.com/images/uploads_620/7/2/d/1328941/rechts_deutsche_burschen_unter_launchy-view-135722928549820130103184620.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a5/Menzura-Korporacja_Sarmatia_2004.jpg/220px-Menzura-Korporacja_Sarmatia_2004.jpg

http://libertas-wien.at/images/mensur_main_pic.jpg

https://ghibellinialeipzig.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/m-tag_120204_2019.jpg

https://lsa-rechtsaussen.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/P4201125.jpg

ArbitraryWater
08-17-2019, 04:27 PM
https://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/w_680/t_in_content_image/nsnwubx9idxftsoxfnja.jpg



pastis wins.


I used to be among the worst when we played some kind of beer drinking game after school in 10th grade.

ArbitraryWater
08-17-2019, 04:31 PM
although... im competitive, so, i'll take on any challenge :applause:



pastis i googled that last pic and it said something about a nazi "burschenschafter"

pastis
08-17-2019, 04:40 PM
Just a random picture i found as i searched "schmiss" on google, the traditional duelling scar.
Some fraternities are far right or even the extreme right. But they are a minority. My fraternity is politcally conservative.

rufuspaul
08-18-2019, 10:57 AM
I fenced in college. It's a tough sport.

pastis
08-18-2019, 05:38 PM
I fenced in college. It's a tough sport.

Yap. normally we have to train 1hour 2x a week with a fencing master for 3-5 years. The intersting part with german academic fencing is, that we are fencing with sharp sabres and you are only allowed to hit the face. Furthermore its not allowed to move during the duell.

Here you can see how it looks. The duelling starts at 2:40.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qlf6i8_7UAU


There is no real winner. To face the sharp sarbre without the right to move is challenging enough. The goal is to build a courageous and dashing character and to control your emotions and your fear.

fraternities consist of Burschenschaften, Corps, Landsmannschaften and Turnerschaften. They are all conservative. My fraternity has problems with Antifa cowards on a regular basis.

rufuspaul
08-18-2019, 05:42 PM
Yap. normally we have to train 1hour 2x a week with a fencing master for 3-5 years. The intersting part with german academic fencing is, that we are fencing with sharp sabres and its also not allowed to move during the duell.

Here you can see how it looks. The duelling starts at 2:40.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qlf6i8_7UAU


There is no real winner. To face the sharp sarbre without the right to move is challenging enough. The goal is to build a courageous and dashing character and to control your emotions and your fear.


Wow. A lot different than the foil I used back in the day.

tpols
08-18-2019, 06:06 PM
Yap. normally we have to train 1hour 2x a week with a fencing master for 3-5 years. The intersting part with german academic fencing is, that we are fencing with sharp sabres and you are only allowed to hit the face. Furthermore its not allowed to move during the duell.

Here you can see how it looks. The duelling starts at 2:40.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qlf6i8_7UAU


There is no real winner. To face the sharp sarbre without the right to move is challenging enough. The goal is to build a courageous and dashing character and to control your emotions and your fear.

fraternities consist of Burschenschaften, Corps, Landsmannschaften and Turnerschaften. They are all conservative. My fraternity has problems with Antifa cowards on a regular basis.


seems kinda silly... they cant move their feet or bend their bodies at all for any type of significant strike?

just twiddle at each other like that?

:facepalm

tpols
08-18-2019, 06:13 PM
https://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/w_680/t_in_content_image/nsnwubx9idxftsoxfnja.jpg



pastis wins.


I used to be among the worst when we played some kind of beer drinking game after school in 10th grade.


i'll take your place and do battle against pastis. :D

pastis
08-18-2019, 06:18 PM
seems kinda silly... they cant move their feet or bend their bodies at all for any type of significant strike?

just twiddle at each other like that?

:facepalm

Like i wrote. The goal is not to win but to defeat your fear and to build a specific character trait. in my fraternity, politics are not important but rather german culture and heritage. We are officially even non political. But tbh, peoole who are patriots and interested in german culture, history and heritage are basically always conservative

https://www.planet-wissen.de/gesellschaft/organisationen/studentenverbindungen/portraetverbindblutgjpg100~_v-gseaabsatzportrait.jpg

I witnessed already two duells and one went pretty bad. The sabre shredded his left cheek so that you could see the teeth.

tpols
08-18-2019, 06:28 PM
Like i wrote. The goal is not to win but to defeat your fear and to build a specific character trait. in my fraternity, politics are not important but rather german culture and heritage. We are officially even non political. But tbh, peoole who are patriots and interested in german culture, history and heritage are basically always conservative

https://www.planet-wissen.de/gesellschaft/organisationen/studentenverbindungen/portraetverbindblutgjpg100~_v-gseaabsatzportrait.jpg

I witnessed already two duells and one went pretty bad. The sabre shredded his left cheek so that you could see the teeth.


true... i guess if you allow a real sword fight somebody is probably gonna die.

So they have to add so many rules to it you cant move and only slash each others cheeks and foreheads up?

MMA allows real combat with less scars.. idk.

pastis
08-18-2019, 06:37 PM
true... i guess if you allow a real sword fight somebody is probably gonna die.

So they have to add so many rules to it you cant move and only slash each others cheeks and foreheads up?

MMA allows real combat with less scars.. idk.

Well, MMA is (imo) superficial and full of money and attention whores. in contrast to that, academic fencing is only for your own character developpment. Further more education is very important in my fraternity. Not only regarding your university studies but also regarding society. For example i learned all the classical dances.

tpols
08-18-2019, 06:59 PM
Well, MMA is (imo) superficial and full of money and attention whores. in contrast to that, academic fencing is only for your own character developpment. Further more education is very important in my fraternity. Not only regarding your university studies but also regarding society. For example i learned all the classical dances.


i dont know whats superifcial about this.


https://media.giphy.com/media/ZciYgKmVsjKtQEZFf6/giphy.gif


seems pure mano y mano. might be capitalism lol

Prometheus
08-18-2019, 07:49 PM
Well, MMA is (imo) superficial and full of money and attention whores. in contrast to that, academic fencing is only for your own character developpment. Further more education is very important in my fraternity. Not only regarding your university studies but also regarding society. For example i learned all the classical dances.

What.

The ****.

Are you talking about?

Superficial? It's... fighting. You ever try it?

pastis
08-18-2019, 08:19 PM
What.

The ****.

Are you talking about?

Superficial? It's... fighting. You ever try it?

I meant superficial in a deeper sense....not the actual interaction.lol.

Prometheus
08-18-2019, 08:28 PM
I meant superficial in a deeper sense....not the actual interaction.lol.

I am just truly curious as to what you mean.

Are you saying the sport has become superficial at the highest level because of all the money?

egokiller
08-18-2019, 08:34 PM
Stipe

pastis
08-19-2019, 06:13 AM
I am just truly curious as to what you mean.

Are you saying the sport has become superficial at the highest level because of all the money?

No that is not what i was trying to say. I meant that the objectives are different. Academic fencing is not about winning or money. Its about honor and bravery. Its about building a certain character trait, to overcome and control your fear. No hiding, no moving. Just you, your opponent within an arm length distance and the sharp sabre. academic fencing has its origins in Germany and a long tradition.
until world war2' the duelling scar ("schmiss" in german) was a sign of masculinity and power and also associated with status and social elitarism


https://www.zeitensprung.de/pics/oldies/portraets/pic-0044.jpg

https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4151/5073094062_62003d90a3_b.jpg

DaHeezy
08-19-2019, 12:33 PM
I'd smash a beer chugging contest. I've been timed at 4 seconds a full bottle