Shams: Lakers and Dwight Howard have mutual interest

[Ca$H]

Shams Charania

@ShamsCharania

The Lakers are expected to request permission soon to speak to Dwight Howard and there's mutual interest between the eight-time All-Star and L.A. in wake of DeMarcus Cousins' torn ACL, league sources tell @TheAthleticNBA@Stadium


https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1163070574370992129

:oldlol:

[Shogon]

The Dwight cancer is soon to be metastasizing.

If he can somehow keep his cancerous personality in check (he won't) then he will be a great pickup. But soon he'll be whining about touches and sowing discontent throughout.

[Xiao Yao You]

an upgrade on Cousins/McGee and yet still a shitshow

[G0ATbe]

AD/Dwight frontcourt...dat defense!:eek: :eek: :eek:

[jbryan1984]

I've actually said for a few years now, Dwight can still go, he just needs the motivation (for whatever reason, but he does) and LeBron would be that perfect motivation and would get the best out of him. A year and a half ago, I was all for the Cavs trading the Nets pick for Dwight.

[jayfan]

I've actually said for a few years now, Dwight can still go, he just needs the motivation (for whatever reason, but he does) and LeBron would be that perfect motivation and would get the best out of him.

Maybe so.

[Xiao Yao You]

Lakers fans can convince themselves of anything

[bison]

Lebron is definitely a better fit for Dwight than Kobe and harden were. I think it can work if Dwight stays humble. Big IF though.

[bobopenguin]

err why?? why not kenneth faried??

[bison]

Not to say he’s washed up but fairied is a shell of his former defensive self

[FireDavidKahn]

Dwight "I loved it when Kobe called me soft" Howard

[Mr Feeny]

Lebron is definitely a better fit for Dwight than Kobe and harden were. I think it can work if Dwight stays humble. Big IF though.

Why, though? He's going to clog the paint and he can't shoot. He seems to be antithetical to the style of big men that Lebron prefers to play with.

[305Baller]

Hahahahaha

[sammichoffate]

Lakers fans can convince themselves of anythingStop speaking for everyone when you assume things, I don't want that cancerous POS near this roster.

[guy]

Lebron is definitely a better fit for Dwight than Kobe and harden were. I think it can work if Dwight stays humble. Big IF though.

No he won’t. Kobe didn’t get along with him but was straight up with him. Lebron will be sick of him as well but will smile in his face like everything is all good and just have him traded by the deadline.

[East River Livn']

Kobe with that carrot on the stick

https://terezowens.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/afasdfasdf.jpg

[Shogon]

Kobe with that carrot on the stick

https://terezowens.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/afasdfasdf.jpg

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Kblaze8855]

Dwight is weird but if hes just....playing basketball?

How many of you have actually watched him the last 3 years or so?

Hes.....still pretty good.

He was ok briefly with the Wizards last year. He had 25/17 his last real game.

Hes not just a bad basketball player.

[RealSkipBayless]

Do the Lakers ever stop winning? :banana:

[Shogon]

Right but the issue isn't his basketball ability.

[StrongLurk]

Lebron will never win a ring again, basketball karma has decided that since he got his 2016 ring and Durant joined the Warriors.

Dwight on the Lakers would just be another nail in the coffin.

[FireDavidKahn]

Kobe with that carrot on the stick

https://terezowens.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/afasdfasdf.jpg
Underrated:oldlol:

[90sgoat]

I hear Dwight been working on 3s...

[90sgoat]

Kobe with that carrot on the stick

https://terezowens.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/afasdfasdf.jpg

Is that Bruce Jenner?:biggums:

[FireDavidKahn]

Dwight is weird but if hes just....playing basketball?

How many of you have actually watched him the last 3 years or so?

Hes.....still pretty good.

He was ok briefly with the Wizards last year. He had 25/17 his last real game.

Hes not just a bad basketball player.

If he focuses solely on defense and cleaning up the boards he'll be fine. If he starts to get an ego and demand offensive possessions...well ya then that'd be really bad.

[HylianNightmare]

Dwight still got something in the tank. Not sure about playing with lebron though

[LAmbruh]

Kobe with that carrot on the stick

https://terezowens.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/afasdfasdf.jpg
yikes :roll: :roll:

[Spurs m8]

God the NBA must be the dumbest league hahahha

The fans are morons, but so are so many front offices

They see a name but dont factor in what year it is

LeGM

[Doranku]

LeBron, AD, AND Dwight? Making it REALLY hard to root for this team. :facepalm

[oh the horror]

LeBron, AD, AND Dwight? Making it REALLY hard to root for this team. :facepalm



Seriously.



Several things need to happen here - Howard has to remain semi healthy for the duration of the season, and he needs to accept that he is not even close to being the man on this team. They need his rebounding and defense.

[NBAGOAT]

I

[eliteballer]

Dwight is weird but if hes just....playing basketball?

How many of you have actually watched him the last 3 years or so?

Hes.....still pretty good.

He was ok briefly with the Wizards last year. He had 25/17 his last real game.

Hes not just a bad basketball player.

Dwight has been on the following teams the last 7 years:

Orlando
Lakers
Houston
Atlanta
Charlotte
Washington
Memphis

He's working on an 8th. If he's not a bad basketball player he must be flat out insane.

[tpols]

Dwight is weird but if hes just....playing basketball?

How many of you have actually watched him the last 3 years or so?

Hes.....still pretty good.

He was ok briefly with the Wizards last year. He had 25/17 his last real game.

Hes not just a bad basketball player.


He is a bad basketball player when you take intangibles into account.

i know you like playing devil's advocate but damn... :facepalm

[Bosnian Sajo]

Lakers fans can convince themselves of anything

Not a single Lakers fan had posted when you made this post, so idk wtf you're talking about you psychopath.

[Bosnian Sajo]

I just don't understand why they have to go with the "big name". Sign Kenneth Faried, he's hungry and proved to be useful in a Capela-like role. Let him eat rebounds, putbacks, and drop off passes from Bron and call it a day. Probably better defender than Dwight at this point too.


To the people asking others if they have watched Dwight play the past 2-3 years...there is no need. He has been putting up good numbers, right? But missed the playoffs 3 years in a row with 3 different teams (Scratch that, barely made the playoffs with the Hawks). Yes the Wizards were heavily injured...but so was Dwight, he only played 9 games. That's ****ing concerning considering we are trying to find a REPLACEMENT for an already injured big man.


He averaged 16.6ppg and 12.5rpg for the Hornets, all star numbers..yet they finished 36-46 in the east. Kemba, Batum, Lamb, Marv Williams etc. were all healthy, they had the exact same record the year before without Dwight...he literally had 0 impact even with the great numbers.

[Kblaze8855]

He is a bad basketball player when you take intangibles into account.

i know you like playing devil's advocate but damn... :facepalm


When you take how well you can play basketball into account he isnt. We just have a lot of incredibly dramatic fans....not that Dwight isnt dramatic himself.

Hes been on one bad team he actually suited up for. His teams were in the playoffs 11 years in a row with him playing a big role for all of them. You can only be so bad at basketball and be productive on good teams for a decade+.

All the intangibles in the world wont get most bigs a starting spot over Dwight.

Hes a legit starting big....Im sure nobody thinks hes still a near MVP.

[Bosnian Sajo]

When you take how well you can play basketball into account he isnt. We just have a lot of incredibly dramatic fans....not that Dwight isnt dramatic himself.

Hes been on one bad team he actually suited up for. His teams were in the playoffs 11 years in a row with him playing a big role for all of them. You can only be so bad at basketball and be productive on good teams for a decade+.

All the intangibles in the world wont get most bigs a starting spot over Dwight.

Hes a legit starting big....Im sure nobody thinks hes still a near MVP.


I'm sorry bro, honestly have you WATCHED him at all during these past 5-6 years? It's painfully obvious to anybody that has watched to notice that he has a negative impact on the game.


Dwight was a BEAST during his Magic days...played decent on Houston the first year as well, but he has been just flat out bad the last couple of years.


How the hell is it possible that he averaged 16.6ppg and 12.5rpb, had Kemba Walker on the team, Nic Batum, and GOOD role players...yet failed to make the playoffs in the weak east? I'm sorry, I don't want that center starting for my team.


Don't get me started with his negative attitude that can drain an entire locker room. Big no, I don't understand how Pelinka of all people isn't aware of Dwight the cancer.

[Bosnian Sajo]

You know what tho, I should probably stop trashing the guy. Chances are, he will be our new starting center seeing how things are shaping up.



Let's look at the positive...maybe he does gain much needed motivation playing with LeBron and AD. Maybe he stops being a child and accepts that he is 34 and accepts his role as a glass cleaner/rebounding center who can take a drop pass from Bron and finish consistently, play defense consistently...


You gotta understand, we've had an unmotivated Dwight in a Lakers uniform once before. We know just how much he can be a negative for a team looking to win.

[Xiao Yao You]

You know what tho, I should probably stop trashing the guy. Chances are, he will be our new starting center seeing how things are shaping up.



Let's look at the positive...maybe he does gain much needed motivation playing with LeBron and AD. Maybe he stops being a child and accepts that he is 34 and accepts his role as a glass cleaner/rebounding center who can take a drop pass from Bron and finish consistently, play defense consistently...


You gotta understand, we've had an unmotivated Dwight in a Lakers uniform once before. We know just how much he can be a negative for a team looking to win.

Can't trash guys on your team? :wtf:

[Bosnian Sajo]

Can't trash guys on your team? :wtf:

Why can't you?

[RRR3]

What is with the Lakers fascination with signing players based on name recognition? Extremely low IQ FO

[superduper]

What is with the Lakers fascination with signing players based on name recognition? Extremely low IQ FO

Are you trolling? This is Bran's MO....

[RealSkipBayless]

What is with the Lakers fascination with signing players based on name recognition? Extremely low IQ FO
FO got the Lakers a quality roster this offseason. Not sure what you are talking about.

[Xiao Yao You]

Why can't you?

I have for almost 40 years

[Bosnian Sajo]

I have for almost 40 years


So you answered your own question.


Good job.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Are you trolling? This is Bran's MO....

mmmmmm idk man.



This smells like Lakers FO.

[Xiao Yao You]

So you answered your own question.


Good job.

The question was directed at you not me

[Bosnian Sajo]

The question was directed at you not me

When it's warranted.

[Xiao Yao You]

When it's warranted.

no when it's asked

[Bosnian Sajo]

no when it's asked

Jackass, I'm answering your original question.

[Xiao Yao You]

Jackass, I'm answering your original question.

got ya! :cheers:

[Kblaze8855]

I'm sorry bro, honestly have you WATCHED him at all during these past 5-6 years? It's painfully obvious to anybody that has watched to notice that he has a negative impact on the game.


Dwight was a BEAST during his Magic days...played decent on Houston the first year as well, but he has been just flat out bad the last couple of years.


No. Its nothing but dramatic fans having no nuance or ability to describe a player outside great and bad.

Bad players can barely keep a spot in the NBA. They dont give out 32/30...then 18/23 next game...then 23/13...then 19/10.....bad players dont even get called bad. They are the 100 guys who you would have to google if you heard they had a season ending injury.

But fans just cant find something between great and awful. This all or nothing society has rubbed off on fans who legit think they know better than the many many people tasked with doing the job full time. Tell me this....

The coach with 30 years of experience in the NBA, NCAA, and scouting decides to play him. You feel its painfully obvious he makes teams worse and shouldnt play. What do you think you see from home in the few games that the coach doesnt see practically living with the guy and seeing every second hes on a court for 7 months of the year?


I get it....fans think they are clever. That coaches know less than them because they make mistakes...but this shit goes too far too often. So many guys...usually former stars....fans who notice them fall off jump right to them supposedly being terrible while actual basketball people keep giving them millions.

Hes apparently about to be the starting center on a contender....again. Someone heavily involved in basketball and a very qualified coaching staff must not think hes actually bad. Which is why they call him.....not someone actually bad at basketball.




How the hell is it possible that he averaged 16.6ppg and 12.5rpb, had Kemba Walker on the team, Nic Batum, and GOOD role players...yet failed to make the playoffs in the weak east? I'm sorry, I don't want that center starting for my team.

The same way its possible Kemba walker had Batum and what you consider "GOOD" role players and a 17/13 center and missed the playoffs...and is now the franchise player for the Celtics.

Its really very simple.

Pretty much none of the players we even talk about are bad.

Mangok Mathiang is bad. Dwight Howard is declined.

But most bigmen in the NBA will never be better than Dwight was on the Hornets. Just the way it is.

[Xiao Yao You]

No. Its nothing but dramatic fans having no nuance or ability to describe a player outside great and bad.

Bad players can barely keep a spot in the NBA. They dont give out 32/30...then 18/23 next game...then 23/13...then 19/10.....bad players dont even get called bad. They are the 100 guys who you would have to google if you heard they had a season ending injury.

But fans just cant find something between great and awful. This all or nothing society has rubbed off on fans who legit think they know better than the many many people tasked with doing the job full time. Tell me this....

The coach with 30 years of experience in the NBA, NCAA, and scouting decides to play him. You feel its painfully obvious he makes teams worse and shouldnt play. What do you think you see from home in the few games that the coach doesnt see practically living with the guy and seeing every second hes on a court for 7 months of the year?


I get it....fans think they are clever. That coaches know less than them because they make mistakes...but this shit goes too far too often. So many guys...usually former stars....fans who notice them fall off jump right to them supposedly being terrible while actual basketball people keep giving them millions.

Hes apparently about to be the starting center on a contender....again. Someone heavily involved in basketball and a very qualified coaching staff must not think hes actually bad. Which is why they call him.....not someone actually bad at basketball.





The same way its possible Kemba walker had Batum and what you consider "GOOD" role players and a 17/13 center and missed the playoffs...and is now the franchise player for the Celtics.

Its really very simple.

Pretty much none of the players we even talk about are bad.

Mangok Mathiang is bad. Dwight Howard is declined.

But most bigmen in the NBA will never be better than Dwight was on the Hornets. Just the way it is.

good or bad there are guys I wouldn't want on my team and Cousins, McGee and Howard are among them. Still remember a play a couple years ago where something happened at the offensive end and instead of getting back on D Howard is joking around with the crowd while the Jazz scored at the other end

[superduper]

I truly hope Bran gets Dwight, rooting for it :rockon:

[Xiao Yao You]

I truly hope Bran gets Dwight, rooting for it :rockon:

me too. Lakers deserve a 2nd go around of that shitshow! :cheers:

[Kblaze8855]

good or bad there are guys I wouldn't want on my team and Cousins, McGee and Howard are among them. Still remember a play a couple years ago where something happened at the offensive end and instead of getting back on D Howard is joking around with the crowd while the Jazz scored at the other end


Sure. I wouldnt want James Harden on my team. Or to go down several notches....and mention someone im sure you have an opinion on....Thurl Bailey. Just rubbed me wrong. Soft. Skilled in ways...but im good. You can keep that over there.

But im not gonna call him bad at basketball.

[Xiao Yao You]

Sure. I wouldnt want James Harden on my team. Or to go down several notches....and mention someone im sure you have an opinion on....Thurl Bailey. Just rubbed me wrong. Soft. Skilled in ways...but im good. You can keep that over there.

But im not gonna call him bad at basketball.

Thurl? He wasn't a banger that's for sure. Could shoot and run the floor from a couple of positions and long defensively. Might be a stretch 5 today. Nice bench piece. Played like a star against the defending champs in the '88 playoffs before stiff Ivaroni and comedian Layden threw it away

[Xiao Yao You]

Thurl also a big improvement as an analyst over Harpring, Boone and Zelmo but so is Micheal Smith

[oh the horror]

I’d be more concerned with Howard’s health and ability to stay on the court throughout a season and his ability to not be a distraction.


We already have guys like Bron who can be a real shmuck when things aren’t panning out so this is going to be interesting how this works

[bladefd]

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[NBAGOAT]

Noah is also injury prone nowadays unfortunately..

yea hope he plays 60 games. definitely a risk along with the fact that la is a distraction but I dont think there's much better at this point.

Faried is a better player than the center options and even took some 3's last year but the fact that the lakers are looking at mostly centers tell me ad isnt going play much center. Obviously faried isnt going be center when he's playing with ad. If they can convince ad to even play 15 min at the 5, definitely go for him but idk.

[bladefd]

yea hope he plays 60 games. definitely a risk along with the fact that la is a distraction but I dont think there's much better at this point.

Faried is a better player than the center options and even took some 3's last year but the fact that the lakers are looking at mostly centers tell me ad isnt going play much center. Obviously faried isnt going be center when he's playing with ad. If they can convince ad to even play 15 min at the 5, definitely go for him but idk.

Faried isn't bad. Nene is another option..

Comparison of remaining centers:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Nen%C3%AA&player_id1_select=Nen%C3%AA&player_id1=hilarne01&y1=2019&player_id2_hint=Dwight+Howard&player_id2_select=Dwight+Howard&player_id2=howardw01&y2=2018&player_id3_hint=Kenneth+Faried&player_id3_select=Kenneth+Faried&player_id3=farieke01&y3=2019&player_id4_hint=Joakim+Noah&player_id4_select=Joakim+Noah&player_id4=noahjo01&y4=2019

Statistically, it is between Dwight and Noah. Dwight has historically stayed healthy except 2018-19 season. Factor in health, and I guess you have to go Dwight even though I don't like his attitude. There is no other option.