Bomb at wedding killed 63, injures 180+

[iamgine]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/FDB1/production/_108354946_055900311-1.jpg

Groom and bride survived. But lost a lot of family members.

Wonder if the bomber is a jealous ex.

[LAmbruh]

crazy

not to mention the future suicides this will cause from losing so much immediate family at once

[Prometheus]

Who posts this with no link?

[Shogon]

https://time.com/5654904/kabul-afghanistan-wedding-bomb/

[stalkerforlife]

Love you J$, but what's up?

Why?

[Bosnian Sajo]

Love you J$, but what's up?

Why?


And why do you think we all have something to do with this?


Stalk love you, but what's up? Why did that dude in El Paso kill all those people at walmart? Why did that white kid shoot up the school in Florida? Why did any white crime happen, ever?

[TheMan]

https://time.com/5654904/kabul-afghanistan-wedding-bomb/
If its a mass shooting...chances are great thats its some white incel imbecile loser taking it out on strangers...if its a bombing, chances are great its an Islamic imbiecile wanting his 72 virgins in paradise :facepalm

[stalkerforlife]

And why do you think we all have something to do with this?


Stalk love you, but what's up? Why did that dude in El Paso kill all those people at walmart? Why did that white kid shoot up the school in Florida? Why did any white crime happen, ever?

No comparison to the atrocities by your people.

[stalkerforlife]

If its a mass shooting...chances are great thats its some white incel imbecile loser taking it out on strangers...if its a bombing, chances are great its an Islamic imbiecile wanting his 72 virgins in paradise :facepalm

Now talk about Mexicans and blacks.

[Bosnian Sajo]

No comparison to the atrocities by your people.


Are you sure? Because I'm pretty sure your people also killed 226k people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki with the use of 2 atomic bombs and 654,965 Iraqi people within the first 3 years of the war on Iraq alone.


All deaths being mostly civilian.


But yea, PLEASE keep on pretending that you guys are innocent angels. There is noooo way anyone can simply use google to see these numbers for themselves.

[stalkerforlife]

Are you sure? Because I'm pretty sure your people also killed 226k people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki with the use of 2 atomic bombs and 654,965 Iraqi people within the first 3 years of the war on Iraq alone.


All deaths being mostly civilian.


But yea, PLEASE keep on pretending that you guys are innocent angels. There is noooo way anyone can simply use google to see these numbers for themselves.

After we were attacked.

Your killings come without being provoked.

Just stop.

[SomeBlackDude]

maga is discussing surrendering to the taliban. this was the response.

another big attack happened not too long ago when it looked like a preliminary deal was struck.

if a pullout happens, look for the attacks to increase bigly.

and look for taliban and isis fighters to flock into afghanistan in droves.

gonna be a real mess for a long long time.

terrorist haven (again).

[Bosnian Sajo]

After we were attacked.

Your killings come without being provoked.

Just stop.


An eye for an eye...not an eye for 50,000 eyes.


Moron. White people (specifically Americans) = biggest terrorist organization in the history of mankind.

[stalkerforlife]

An eye for an eye...not an eye for 50,000 eyes.


Moron.

Bitch, there was no single eye.

There were many killed before we retaliated.

And your bitch ass wouldn't live the life you live without the USA establishing itself as the most powerful military in the world that will also take action if you f uck with us.

Your people are bombing randoms that did NOTHING to them.

Zero comparison.

And y'all are still CURRENTLY doing it.

White mass shooters are despicable, but they are far less worse than you Muslim terrorists.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Bitch, there was no single eye.

There were many killed before we retaliated.

And your bitch ass wouldn't live the life you live without the USA establishing itself as the most powerful military in the world that will also take action if you f uck with us.



Ahh, there it is. The white man excusing his crimes for "the greater good".


Shut the **** up, you embarrassment. Killing women and children and then gloating how much better your life is because of it.


Have you no shame, stalky poo? All this killing only so that Stalk can raise his children free of charge while his wife ****s black Florida dudes which fuels your racism.

You hate it, but your wife loves them golds in they mouths :pimp:

[stalkerforlife]

Ahh, there it is. The white man excusing his crimes for "the greater good".


Shut the **** up, you embarrassment. Killing women and children and then gloating how much better your life is because of it.


Have you no shame, stalky poo? All this killing only so that Stalk can raise his children free of charge while his wife ****s black Florida dudes which fuels your racism.

You hate it, but your wife loves them golds in they mouths :pimp:

You can't defend your terrorist people.

And the fact that you're trying is despicable.

If I had one of your camels, I'd make him spit on you.

[Bosnian Sajo]

You can't defend your terrorist people.

And the fact that you're trying is despicable.

If I had one of your camels, I'd make him spit on you.


Bro, you don't even own a ****ing car, let alone a camel :oldlol:


My people have always been better than your people. Smarter, prettier, and more peaceful.


GOD DAMN IT, it feels good to be Muslim :cheers:

[Mr Feeny]

After we were attacked.

Your killings come without being provoked.

Just stop.

No Iraqi attacked you. We can always have discussions and disagree about things but stop being an idiot. Condoning the murder of nearly 1 million civilians is not okay.

[Mr Feeny]

Bro, you don't even own a ****ing car, let alone a camel :oldlol:


My people have always been better than your people. Smarter, prettier, and more peaceful.


GOD DAMN IT, it feels good to be Muslim :cheers:

Wait. You own a camel?:lol

[stalkerforlife]

Bro, you don't even own a ****ing car, let alone a camel :oldlol:


My people have always been better than your people. Smarter, prettier, and more peaceful.


GOD DAMN IT, it feels good to be Muslim :cheers:

Sure, I don't own a car. Right.

And taking God's name in vain is acceptable in your religion?

Disgusting.

[stalkerforlife]

No Iraqi attacked you. We can always have discussions and disagree about things but stop being an idiot. Condoning the murder of nearly 1 million civilians is not okay.

And I didn't attack an Iraqi.

But Pearl Harbor killed thousands and the USA retaliated.

You stop being an idiot.

If you don't want smoke, don't attack us.

[Bosnian Sajo]

And I didn't attack an Iraqi.

But Pearl Harbor killed thousands and the USA retaliated.

You stop being an idiot.

If you don't want smoke, don't attack us.


So how about the 650k+ Iraqis that got killed?


Yall claimed they were responsible for 9/11 and had weapons of mass destruction.


We have concluded that they were NOT responsible for 9/11 and had NO weapons of mass destruction.


What do you say to that? "oops"? ****ing terrorist Americans, destroying entire countries for oil and money. Proxy war for Cheney's construction companies to make billions.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Wait. You own a camel?:lol


Don't you know, bro?


Every Muslim has a camel. Just like every black person has a pitbull and every white person ****s their dog.


Sometimes stereotypes are true :confusedshrug:

[Mr Feeny]

And I didn't attack an Iraqi.

But Pearl Harbor killed thousands and the USA retaliated.

You stop being an idiot.

If you don't want smoke, don't attack us.

Yeah but he was talking about multiple attacks including the Iraq one. Even if you believe that it's ok to gas 200k Japanese civilians because their military attacked a navy base (I cant even wrap my head around how insane that sounds), you can't be okay with killing 3 times as many for.......wait for it....doing nothing.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Yeah but he was talking about multiple attacks including the Iraq one. Even if you believe that it's ok to gas 200k Japanese civilians because their military attacked a navy base (I cant even wrap my head around how insane that sounds), you can't be okay with killing 3 times as many for.......wait for it....doing nothing.


Thank you, feeny.



I swear I thought you were somebodies alt when we'd have our Lebron/Kobe back and forth on the main forum. I'll know to respect you as an individual from now on.

[Prometheus]

Hiroshima and Nagasaki are terrible examples, and they absolutely pale in comparison to the horrific atrocities committed by the Japanese during World War II. Bringing up those attacks as some sort of black mark on the USA is simple uneducated gibberish. Even the Nazis were taken aback by the level of inhumanity demonstrated by the Japanese lunatics, who were raping, torturing, and massacring the Chinese civilian population.

Iraq is a much better example. No excuse for that shit - the US gov't is involved with some extremely deplorable activity in the 21st century. But it's not because they are (mostly) white, it's because they are by far the most powerful military and they have the means to do what they want. Power corrupts. That's it.

But don't talk about the nuclear weapons unless you have actually done at least some basic reading about the Japanese hostilities of that era.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Hiroshima and Nagasaki are terrible examples, and they absolutely pale in comparison to the horrific atrocities committed by the Japanese during World War II. Bringing up those attacks as some sort of black mark on the USA is simple uneducated gibberish. Even the Nazis were taken aback by the level of inhumanity demonstrated by the Japanese lunatics, who were raping, torturing, and massacring the Chinese civilian population.

You are 100% right, the Japanese were savages during that war....doesn't change the fact that we dropped an atomic bomb on civilians. There is no way to dismiss that....it would be one thing if we WRECKED their military, but America attacked their civilians. It's not me being uneducated, it's you thinking inhumanely.





Iraq is a much better example. No excuse for that shit - the US gov't is involved with some extremely deplorable activity in the 21st century. But it's not because they are (mostly) white, it's because they are by far the most powerful military and they have the means to do what they want. Power corrupts. That's it.



Agreed, I'm taking the white narrative to combat Stalk's Muslim hating narrative. He was trying to be cute so I'm just the next pretty bitch trying to be cuter :*

[Bosnian Sajo]

For comparison Prometheus, imagine if Iraq now decided to drop 2 atomic bombs on us as retaliation for killing 650k-1m+ of their people under false pretenses.


Would that be justified, too? Of course not.

[Patrick Chewing]

Are you sure? Because I'm pretty sure your people also killed 226k people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki with the use of 2 atomic bombs and 654,965 Iraqi people within the first 3 years of the war on Iraq alone.


All deaths being mostly civilian.


But yea, PLEASE keep on pretending that you guys are innocent angels. There is noooo way anyone can simply use google to see these numbers for themselves.


You wage wars to win them, not lose them. And your idiotic comparison here is misguided. You

[Bosnian Sajo]

You wage wars to win them, not lose them. And your idiotic comparison here is misguided. You’re being disingenuous here and you know it.


What a ****ign argument by Patty Chew :oldlol:

"you're wrong and you know it!"

like, no bitch, I'm 100% right and you guys are wrong. Clear as fucing day.


But please, go on with your rational, I want you guys to expose yourselves to the rest of the forum.

[Patrick Chewing]

For comparison Prometheus, imagine if Iraq now decided to drop 2 atomic bombs on us as retaliation for killing 650k-1m+ of their people under false pretenses.


Would that be justified, too? Of course not.


The US didn

[stalkerforlife]

Hiroshima and Nagasaki are terrible examples, and they absolutely pale in comparison to the horrific atrocities committed by the Japanese during World War II. Bringing up those attacks as some sort of black mark on the USA is simple uneducated gibberish. Even the Nazis were taken aback by the level of inhumanity demonstrated by the Japanese lunatics, who were raping, torturing, and massacring the Chinese civilian population.

Iraq is a much better example. No excuse for that shit - the US gov't is involved with some extremely deplorable activity in the 21st century. But it's not because they are (mostly) white, it's because they are by far the most powerful military and they have the means to do what they want. Power corrupts. That's it.

But don't talk about the nuclear weapons unless you have actually done at least some basic reading about the Japanese hostilities of that era.

Got em.

[Patrick Chewing]

What a ****ign argument by Patty Chew :oldlol:

"you're wrong and you know it!"

like, no bitch, I'm 100% right and you guys are wrong. Clear as fucing day.


But please, go on with your rational, I want you guys to expose yourselves to the rest of the forum.


You

[Bosnian Sajo]

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]The US didn

[superduper]

Mairicuh is the best country EVAR!!!!!!

[Bosnian Sajo]

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]You

[stalkerforlife]

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]You wage wars to win them, not lose them. And your idiotic comparison here is misguided. You

[Prometheus]

It's not a fair comparison at all, and you need to study the actual context of that Japanese military. They were not going to surrender under any circumstances. "One hundred million dying for the cause" was the slogan of their people at the time, and they took it at face value.

They really were very unique among modern industrial powers - and there are many historical reasons for this. It's not some inherent cruelty in the Japanese DNA, it's a complex set of cultural factors which drove them to be what they were.

In a vacuum, yes the dropping of the atomic bombs was deplorable. But the likely alternative was not only countless more military deaths, but the extermination of all of the Japanese people via land invasion, because they were not prepared to offer surrender for any reason.

And if you don't believe any of that, what, at least, do you make of the fact that the Japanese refused to surrender after Hiroshima? We showed them that we could decimate an entire city with a single bomb, and they refused to give in. Hence the second attack at Nagasaki. Do you place any of the blame for the deaths at Nagasaki on Hirohito for refusing to surrender after Hiroshima?

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Love you J$, but what's up?

Why?

:(

[stalkerforlife]

Lost 2,403 men....in retaliation killed 226k.



hmmmm.....

Why are you here?

We're evil.

Go home.

White man bad.

Oh wait...

[Patrick Chewing]

Oh, so 650k+ people dying was an accident?


Casualties of war. The Iraqi people only have their lovely dictator to blame for that. How many murders are in that man

[Mr Feeny]

It's not a fair comparison at all, and you need to study the actual context of that Japanese military. They were not going to surrender under any circumstances. "One hundred million dying for the cause" was the slogan of their people at the time, and they took it at face value.

They really were very unique among modern industrial powers - and there are many historical reasons for this. It's not some inherent cruelty in the Japanese DNA, it's a complex set of cultural factors which drove them to be what they were.

In a vacuum, yes the dropping of the atomic bombs was deplorable. But the likely alternative was not only countless more military deaths, but the extermination of all of the Japanese people via land invasion, because they were not prepared to offer surrender for any reason.

And if you don't believe any of that, what, at least, do you make of the fact that the Japanese refused to surrender after Hiroshima? We showed them that we could decimate an entire city with a single bomb, and they refused to give in. Hence the second attack at Nagasaki. Do you place any of the blame for the deaths at Nagasaki on Hirohito for refusing to surrender after Hiroshima?

Are you obstuse? Do I place blame on them for getting bombed? Are you typing that out with a straight face or are you naturally this dumb?

Killing 200k people and then placing blame on the murdered for not "giving up' earlier might be the dumbest thing I've read on this forum. the lengths idiots would go to justify mass murder is staggering.

[Prometheus]

Agreed, I'm taking the white narrative to combat Stalk's Muslim hating narrative. He was trying to be cute so I'm just the next pretty bitch trying to be cuter :*

First of all, um, cringe. Pretty bitch? Cute?

:coleman:

Second of all, as a thought experiment, the anti-white rhetoric you are spewing is microcosmically parallel to the US bombimg civilians in retaliation to foreign belligerents. Your problem is with the words of your adversary (Justin) yet you take out your frustration and anger on an entire race (whites). How is that justified? What have the white ISH users done to you to warrant your racist words? Does the racism of one man beget racism in the other? If so, let it spread like a cancer and we are all f*cked.

[stalkerforlife]

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]Casualties of war. The Iraqi people only have their lovely dictator to blame for that. How many murders are in that man

[Patrick Chewing]

Lost 2,403 men....in retaliation killed 226k.



hmmmm.....


Post the number of deaths that Radical Islam is to blame for across the globe. I dare ya.

[Mr Feeny]

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]Casualties of war. The Iraqi people only have their lovely dictator to blame for that. How many murders are in that man

[Mr Feeny]

Post the number of deaths that Radical Islam is to blame for across the globe. I dare ya.

As I said. Every post is dumber than the previous.

[Prometheus]

Are you obstuse? Do I place blame on them for getting bombed? Are you typing that out with a straight face or are you naturally this dumb?

Killing 200k people and then placing blame on the murdered for not "giving up' earlier might be the dumbest thing I've read on this forum. the lengths idiots would go to justify mass murder is staggering.

Not only are you cherry picking, but you have already demonstrated that you have virtually zero knowledge of World War II by writing off the nuclear attacks as simply a retaliation for Pearl Harbor. You are out of your depth and should not post anything else about that period in history until you do more reading.

[Mr Feeny]

Not only are you cherry picking, but you have already demonstrated that you have virtually zero knowledge of World War II by writing off the nuclear attacks as simply a retaliation for Pearl Harbor. You are out of your depth and should not post anything else about that period in history until you do more reading.

The irony there. Get a book. Go take a rudimentary level history class about WW2 and then come back to me. You're clueless.

[stalkerforlife]

Not only are you cherry picking, but you have already demonstrated that you have virtually zero knowledge of World War II by writing off the nuclear attacks as simply a retaliation for Pearl Harbor. You are out of your depth and should not post anything else about that period in history until you do more reading.

Prom knows history.

No one can compete with his knowledge.

[Mr Feeny]

Prom knows history.

No one can compete with his knowledge.

He doesn't know the history of his own country, and he would do well to get a basic education instead of embarassing himself with his ignorance and hate.

[Patrick Chewing]

Mr. Feeny clown thinks wars are fought on battlefields away from civilian populations like in the Middle Ages. :oldlol:

[BlakFrankWhite]

Rip.

[Patrick Chewing]

As I said. Every post is dumber than the previous.


Don

[Prometheus]

Feeny, I recommend "No Surrender" by Hiroo Onoda.

You do not know who he was. Google him.

You will learn about the cultural mindset of Japan at that time.

The dropping of the atomic weapons saved the lives of millions of Japanese civilians. You cannot understand this now. When you have read more, you will.

Knowledge is power. Now go forth and arm yourself.

[BlakFrankWhite]

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]Don

[rufuspaul]

maga is discussing surrendering to the taliban. this was the response.

another big attack happened not too long ago when it looked like a preliminary deal was struck.

if a pullout happens, look for the attacks to increase bigly.

and look for taliban and isis fighters to flock into afghanistan in droves.

gonna be a real mess for a long long time.

terrorist haven (again).


So we should increase our troop presence and leave them there forever? :confusedshrug:

[Bosnian Sajo]

First of all, um, cringe. Pretty bitch? Cute?

:coleman:

Oh hush, you love it Promo.



Second of all, as a thought experiment, the anti-white rhetoric you are spewing is microcosmically parallel to the US bombimg civilians in retaliation to foreign belligerents.

Looks like you're getting it now...



Your problem is with the words of your adversary (Justin) yet you take out your frustration and anger on an entire race (whites). How is that justified? What have the white ISH users done to you to warrant your racist words? Does the racism of one man beget racism in the other? If so, let it spread like a cancer and we are all f*cked.


That is the EXACT POINT OF ALL OF THIS, it is NOT justified. I am trying to show Justin how it is to argue with someone who uses his argument points.

Blaming it on ALL white people is what an idiot like Justin would do. I'm doing that in order to show him the error of his ways.

Obviously you, as a smart individual, were easily able to pickup on this right away. He, however....still thinks this is white vs muslim, white vs black etc.

[Prometheus]

That is the EXACT POINT OF ALL OF THIS, it is NOT justified. I am trying to show Justin how it is to argue with someone who uses his argument points.

Blaming it on ALL white people is what an idiot like Justin would do. I'm doing that in order to show him the error of his ways.

Obviously you, as a smart individual, were easily able to pickup on this right away. He, however....still thinks this is white vs muslim, white vs black etc.

You look down upon his rhetoric, so you stoop to doing precisely the same thing.

Nice.

[Mr Feeny]

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]Don

[Mr Feeny]

Feeny, I recommend "No Surrender" by Hiroo Onoda.

You do not know who he was. Google him.

You will learn about the cultural mindset of Japan at that time.

The dropping of the atomic weapons saved the lives of millions of Japanese civilians. You cannot understand this now. When you have read more, you will.

Knowledge is power. Now go forth and arm yourself.

I recommend a introduction history class. Undergraduate level. Go. Get an education. And come back to me. I'll be waiting.

When we have someone who clearly doesnt know the first thing about WW2 attempting to talk to me about it, I'm gonna have to stop myself from chuckling.

[Mr Feeny]

You look down upon his rhetoric, so you stoop to doing precisely the same thing.

Nice.

There is a difference between making an ironic comment to expose someone's idiocy, and solemnly stating that you think a entire race/religion is a problem and that bombing 1 million people is justified. You, ofcourse, would be confused about the difference.

[warriorfan]

This could have been prevented with smart gun control.

[Prometheus]

I recommend a introduction history class. Undergraduate level. Go. Get an education. And come back to me. I'll be waiting.

When we have someone who clearly doesnt know the first thing about WW2 attempting to talk to me about it, I'm gonna have to stop myself from chuckling.

You keep saying this, but you cannot articulate a single point as to why I am wrong.

Feel free to provide cliffnotes. I could easily explain to you my position here.

[Patrick Chewing]

The real problem is idiot like you. Right wing nuts who don't understand the first thing about their own country's history or their own religion spewing invective.


Blah blah blah that

[Prometheus]

Feeny's knowledge of the Pacific theater of WW2 is as follows:

Japanese attack Pearl Harbor.

Four years later, the USA drops two atomic bombs on Japan.

Japan surrenders.

The end.

[RRR3]

I am so smart
:lol

[TheMan]

Sajo, you might want to turn your anti US military rhetoric a bit lower since it was the US military that stopped Bosnians from being wiped off the map by Serbia in the 90s. That's right, a Christian nation stepping in to stop another Christian nation from wrecking a Muslim country apart, had the US not intervened, you and yours mist probably wouldn't be breathing today...

I wonder if a Muslim country would ever do something like that :rolleyes:

[warriorfan]

Feeny's knowledge of the Pacific theater of WW2 is as follows:

Japanese attack Pearl Harbor.

Four years later, the USA drops two atomic bombs on Japan.

Japan surrenders.

The end.

Dude goes on feel, not facts

He might be a woman

[Prometheus]

:lol

What exactly is the joke for your alteration of my name?

Are you just changing the letters without making any kind of punchline?

Are you calling me a bee?

Is it supposed to be insulting?

[Bosnian Sajo]

Sajo, you might want to turn your anti US military rhetoric a bit lower since it was the US military that stopped Bosnians from being wiped off the map by Serbia in the 90s. That's right, a Christian nation stepping in to stop another Christian nation from wrecking a Muslim country apart, had tge US not intervened, you and yours mist probably wouldn't be breathing today...

I wonder if a Muslim country would ever do something like that :rolleyes:

What??? You literally dont have a clue what you're talking about. Pakistan was airlifting arms and missiles against NATO commands in order to help us....all america did was end the war AFTER the massacres and AFTER we were gaining momentum and winning our land back.


I'm not blaming america, they helped us and my family specifically by accepting us as refugees, but had the war not stopped in 1995, we would not have lost HALF OUR COUNTRY to the Serbs. America forced our hand by saying if we dknt stop our advances they would bomb us (much like they did serbia when they were at war with kosovo).

How dare you bring up shit my people actually went through in real life acting like you know wtf was going on?

[Hawker]

There is an argument out there against bombing Japan - it seems pretty solid.

I want to know what Feeny's argument is though other than "it was mean" because that's all he has right now.

[RRR3]

What exactly is the joke for your alteration of my name?

Are you just changing the letters without making any kind of punchline?

Are you calling me a bee?

Is it supposed to be insulting?
Be=Kobe.

:cheers:

Pro(Ko)Be-Theus

[Prometheus]

Be=Kobe.

:cheers:

Pro(Ko)Be-Theus

https://media1.giphy.com/media/l0NwHXQy3kUSfFF60/source.gif

Kobetheus

I love it

What an honor!

[Prometheus]

There is an argument out there against bombing Japan - it seems pretty solid.

I want to know what Feeny's argument is though other than "it was mean" because that's all he has right now.

He doesn't have one. He has less than an elementary knowledge base when it comes to World War II. Just talking out of his ass, not wanting to look uninformed.

[Facepalm]

Dropping the atomic bombs was a terrible decision that had to be made. The alternatives were worst. An invasion of Japan would have resulted in significantly more loss of life on both sides.

The Iraq war is the biggest mistake the US has made since Vietnam. It destabilized the region and gave rise to ISIS and Iran. As shitty as Saddam was, he kept Iran and radical Muslims in check. We cannot expect our version of "freedom and democracy" to work in the middle east, especially if it's forced upon them via regime change. We should have kept our focus on Afghanistan.
We are going to be dealing with the fallout from this shit for decades to come.

[TheMan]

What??? You literally dont have a clue what you're talking about. Pakistan was airlifting arms and missiles against NATO commands in order to help us....all america did was end the war AFTER the massacres and AFTER we were gaining momentum and winning our land back.


I'm not blaming america, they helped us and my family specifically by accepting us as refugees, but had the war not stopped in 1995, we would not have lost HALF OUR COUNTRY to the Serbs. America forced our hand by saying if we dknt stop our advances they would bomb us (much like they did serbia when they were at war with kosovo).

How dare you bring up shit my people actually went through in real life acting like you know wtf was going on?
Ok, I must admit I'm not an expert in that conflict, just went with what I vaguely remember from back then...I'm a big boy, I apologise if I have offended you since that happened not too long ago.

:cheers:

[Prometheus]

Ok, I must admit I'm not an expert in that conflict, just went with what I vaguely remember from back then...I'm a big boy, I apologise if I have offended you since that happened not too long ago.

:cheers:

I respect you a lot, you just did what most people die without ever maturing enough to do.

If only we could all admit when we are wrong or don't actually know what we're on about.

Lookin at you, Feeny.

[paksat]

Bro, you don't even own a ****ing car, let alone a camel :oldlol:


My people have always been better than your people. Smarter, prettier, and more peaceful.


GOD DAMN IT, it feels good to be Muslim :cheers:

is that why we can kick "your peoples" ass in about in a 24 hour span?

:roll:

[paksat]

You are 100% right, the Japanese were savages during that war....doesn't change the fact that we dropped an atomic bomb on civilians. There is no way to dismiss that....it would be one thing if we WRECKED their military, but America attacked their civilians. It's not me being uneducated, it's you thinking inhumanely.




Agreed, I'm taking the white narrative to combat Stalk's Muslim hating narrative. He was trying to be cute so I'm just the next pretty bitch trying to be cuter :*

ah yes, we should invade them and lose an estimated million men on both sides

good thing you muslims are "prettier"... IQ not even twice

[paksat]

I recommend a introduction history class. Undergraduate level. Go. Get an education. And come back to me. I'll be waiting.

When we have someone who clearly doesnt know the first thing about WW2 attempting to talk to me about it, I'm gonna have to stop myself from chuckling.


All I did was study world war 2 as a kid in the library before video games came out.

you're completely clueless, they're absolutely right.

[Bawkish]

dropping 2 atomic bombs were not necessary

the carpet bombing of Tokyo & other cities did the job before hand.

the problem was the US were demanding unconditional surrender from Japan which means stripping the emperor of his title

the Japanese would not accept that because for them the Emperor is a deity. They would rather wiped out than being humiliated like that

[aj1987]

Oh, so 650k+ people dying was an accident?
Where are you getting 650k+ people dying from? Are you going by the Lancet Survey (a survey which is beyond terrible)? The ACTUAL count is much lower and it's ~220k. These are ACTUAL DOCUMENTED civilian fatalities.


https://i.postimg.cc/cHdvt8qk/IBC.png


Lets also not forget that over 90% of those people were actually killed by Islamic insurgents and not American troops.

Are you also gonna chalk up the 63 people who were senselessly murdered at the wedding, as being killed by American troops?



Lost 2,403 men....in retaliation killed 226k.

hmmmm.....
Yeah, no. Please read more about WW2. That's not even remotely true.


Not only are you cherry picking, but you have already demonstrated that you have virtually zero knowledge of World War II by writing off the nuclear attacks as simply a retaliation for Pearl Harbor. You are out of your depth and should not post anything else about that period in history until you do more reading.
Feeny is the autistic version of Sportjames23. Let that sink in. You really can't reason or argue with someone that mindbogglingly stupid.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Ok, I must admit I'm not an expert in that conflict, just went with what I vaguely remember from back then...I'm a big boy, I apologise if I have offended you since that happened not too long ago.

:cheers:


Respect :cheers:

[Bosnian Sajo]

Where are you getting 650k+ people dying from? Are you going by the Lancet Survey (a survey which is beyond terrible)?

Lets also not forget that over 90% of those people were actually killed by Islamic insurgents and not American troops.

Are you also gonna chalk up the 63 people who were senselessly murdered at the wedding, as being killed by American troops?


Of course I'm not blaming America directly for this wedding bomb. Yes it is true that they destabalized the area so dramatically to the fact that these type of things have become normal over there, but I am not placing the blame on America, no.


Why is the Lancet Survey "beyond terrible"? Because the stats don't fit your argument? Actual scientists and statisticians don't have any issue with it...why take your word over theirs?



Yeah, no. Please read more about WW2. That's not even remotely true.


Casualties at pearl harbor vs casualties of atomic bombs....how is it not true?

[Bosnian Sajo]

is that why we can kick "your peoples" ass in about in a 24 hour span?

:roll:


And when have yall ever kicked the Turks ass? :oldlol:

[aj1987]

Of course I'm not blaming America directly for this wedding bomb. Yes it is true that they destabalized the area so dramatically to the fact that these type of things have become normal over there, but I am not placing the blame on America, no.
The Middle East wasn't exactly flourishing and peaceful before the US occupation. Not even close.


Why is the Lancet Survey "beyond terrible"? Because the stats don't fit your argument? Actual scientists and statisticians don't have any issue with it...why take your word over theirs?
Probably because is a faulty survey which has been disputed by tons of governments, scientists, professors, and various others.

Even Lancet attributes 31% (186,318) deaths to the US led Coalition. So, yeah, even using the Lancet survey you can't attribute "650,000+" deaths to the American military.

An October 2006 article by IBC argues that the Lancet estimate is suspect "because of a very different conclusion reached by another random household survey, the Iraq Living Conditions Survey 2004 (ILCS), using a comparable method but a considerably better-distributed and much larger sample."

Debarati Guha-Sapir, director of the Centre for Research on the Epidemiology of Disasters in Brussels, was quoted in an interview for Nature.com saying that Burnham's team have published "inflated" numbers that "discredit" the process of estimating death counts. "Why are they doing this?" she asks. "It's because of the elections.".

Daponte questions the reliability of pre-war estimates used in the Lancet study to derive its "excess deaths" estimate, and the ethical approval for the survey. She concludes that the most reliable information available to date is provided by the Iraq Family Health Survey, the Iraq Living Conditions Survey and Iraq Body Count.

The October 2006 Lancet estimate also drew criticism from the Iraqi government. Government spokesman Ali Debbagh said, "This figure, which in reality has no basis, is exaggerated". Iraq's Health Minister Ali al-Shemari gave a similar view in November 2006: "Since three and a half years, since the change of the Saddam regime, some people say we have 600,000 are killed. This is an exaggerated number. I think 150 is OK."

A 2010 paper by Professor Michael Spagat entitled "Ethical and Data-Integrity Problems in the Second Lancet Survey of Mortality in Iraq" was published in the peer reviewed journal Defense & Peace Economics. This paper argues that there were several "ethical violations to the survey's respondents", faults the study authors for "non-disclosure of the survey's questionnaire, data-entry form, data matching anonymized interviewer identifications with households and sample design", and presents "evidence relating to data fabrication and falsification, which falls into nine broad categories." The paper concludes that the Lancet survey, "cannot be considered a reliable or valid contribution towards knowledge about the extent of mortality in Iraq since 2003."

Critics of the Lancet study have pointed out other difficulties in obtaining accurate statistics in a war zone. The authors of the study readily acknowledge this point and note the problems in the paper; for example they state that "there can be a dramatic clustering of deaths in wars where many die from bombings". They also said that the data their projections were based on were of "limited precision" because the quality of the information depended on the accuracy of the household interviews used for the study

Straight from one of the Lancet researchers.

From a statistical point of view, the extrapolation they did might be valid, but their figures are no where close to the ACTUAL RECORDED DEATHS.

I already provided you with a picture, which has a breakdown of all RECORDED deaths. If you think they're not accurate and want to double them, that's still significantly less that deaths than what the Lancet survey is claiming.



Casualties at pearl harbor vs casualties of atomic bombs....how is it not true?
You implied that US nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki because of the attack on Pearl Harbor, which is not even remotely true.

[AirTupac]

Sajo, you might want to turn your anti US military rhetoric a bit lower since it was the US military that stopped Bosnians from being wiped off the map by Serbia in the 90s. That's right, a Christian nation stepping in to stop another Christian nation from wrecking a Muslim country apart, had the US not intervened, you and yours mist probably wouldn't be breathing today...

I wonder if a Muslim country would ever do something like that :rolleyes:


Lol what? When the massacre was at its peak, the USA turned around and ignored it. It wasn't until Bosnians and Croatians started eradicating Serbians and taking back everything that the U.S decided to "step in". PS - Their involvement was actually detrimental to the progress of a lot of the Balkans since their retarded help forced the country to maintain 3 presidencies, one of who still wants to secede from Bosnia. Go learn some history you stupid retard :oldlol: This is exactly why most Americans are brain dead. They just follow national narratives and think that everything the U.S is done is for the good of the world. Completely brainwashed.

[stalkerforlife]

Where are you getting 650k+ people dying from? Are you going by the Lancet Survey (a survey which is beyond terrible)? The ACTUAL count is much lower and it's ~220k. These are ACTUAL DOCUMENTED civilian fatalities.


https://i.postimg.cc/cHdvt8qk/IBC.png


Lets also not forget that over 90% of those people were actually killed by Islamic insurgents and not American troops.

Are you also gonna chalk up the 63 people who were senselessly murdered at the wedding, as being killed by American troops?






Yeah, no. Please read more about WW2. That's not even remotely true.


Feeny is the autistic version of Sportjames23. Let that sink in. You really can't reason or argue with someone that mindbogglingly stupid.

Got em.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Lol what? When the massacre was at its peak, the USA turned around and ignored it. It wasn't until Bosnians and Croatians started eradicating Serbians and taking back everything that the U.S decided to "step in". PS - Their involvement was actually detrimental to the progress of a lot of the Balkans since their retarded help forced the country to maintain 3 presidencies, one of who still wants to secede from Bosnia. Go learn some history you stupid retard :oldlol: This is exactly why most Americans are brain dead. They just follow national narratives and think that everything the U.S is done is for the good of the world. Completely brainwashed.


He already took back his statement, but you are 100% correct.