Ben Simmons will be a top 5 NBA player this year or the next

[Shogon]

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[LoneyROY7]

He's literally shooting the ball diagonally.

That form is still a mess.

[highwhey]

bc of an uncontested 3? :lol

[Proctor]

He's literally shooting the ball diagonally.

That form is still a mess.
If it goes in, it goes in...

But he's a liability and will continue to be one.

[Mask the Embiid]

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conference finals lock fam checkin' in









meanwhile in san antonio patty mills is....

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who even cares......

[superduper]

This dude has literally already peaked.

[Sportal]

He's gonna have to be for Australians to actually know who he is...

His shot still looks awkward and forced to me.

[TemporaMutantur]

Yo, everyone here is so negative. This mf that doesn't even shoot a single jumpshot in games is hitting fadeaways and shit. If he actually adds this to the arsenal and can be consistent with it, it will be a sight to see, especially because it will open the lane and allow for more pass-versatility.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think this is the year, but it would be good to see.

[keep-itreal]

He won't do none of that in a real NBA game.

[imdaman99]

Looking Harden'esque, just not as smooth :applause:

[Phenith]

He won't do none of that in a real NBA game.

This, he's been shooting jumpers in practice all along, he's just got a mental block shooting them in game. You can see it when teams sag on him, he looks at the shot and then drives into his man that is standing 6 feet away from him.

[Wally450]

:oldlol: :oldlol:

[Uncle Drew]

Poor bowl cut.

[Smook A.]

Absolutely not

[Bronbron23]

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No he won't. Dude is a 6'10 point gaurd that has no post game, mid range or three game. He's trash especially come playoff time when the game slows down and becomes more of a half court game. There's LeBron, curry, harden, Greek and AD. How in the hell is he gonna be top 5?

[Im so nba'd out]

the pure hatred in this thread from ben hitting a handful of jumpers

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The Conference Finals is our floor....what's your team's floor?????


stay mad

[sdot_thadon]

If he can carry even a bit of what he's doing over into october and beyond it's possible, but I don't think that's in his immediate future. Maybe if this is the getting his feet wet year shooting and he holds up ok, skys the limit. What i like is he's already an allstar level talent and can't shoot yet, upside upside upside.

[LostCause]

Giannis, Harden, Curry, LeBron, Kawhi

He’s absolutely not breaking into that mix this year or next. Not to mention KD returns

If he gets a respectable shot he’ll definitely have a larger impact. I have a hard time picturing him ever cracking that Top 5 though as all those players have exceptional abilities that are right at the top even historically. Simmons doesn’t really have that

[Celtics 1825]

You say that solely based on him making a couple of 3's in practice? Give me a break

[ImKobe]

form looks good but a couple practice 3s ain't going to convince me otherwise.

[305Baller]

bold claims.

jumpshots without defense.


cute.


these threads are so ****ing GA Y


hahahha

[DoctorP]

Simmons will probably be more of a Jason Kidd type , Im not sure the jumpshot will ever be a huge part of his game.

Theres a mental hurdle that a non-shooter has to clear.

When the pressure is on they usually revert to poor shooters.

Good luck, Ben. I love his game.

[stalkerforlife]

If he learns to shoot and makes guys guard him far from the basket, he's the best player alive.

Big if.

Heard he's once again putting his off-season into a woman.

[Smoke117]

No, he really won't. You have to love the classic overreaction to summer pick up game posts.

[superduper]

Horrible thread OP.

Trash/10.

[MrFonzworth]

Simmons has always been overrated imo. Great passer, but that's it. He lets bad plays get to his head too quickly. He misses a 3 footer? Plays passive the next 5 minutes. Goes for a bad steal? Invisible on defense for a quarter. Nothing about this guy tells me he's a superstar, he'll be a fringe all star at best for his entire career. I feel for Embiid, and Embiid only.

[ralph_i_el]

Simmons will probably be more of a Jason Kidd type , Im not sure the jumpshot will ever be a huge part of his game.

Theres a mental hurdle that a non-shooter has to clear.

When the pressure is on they usually revert to poor shooters.

Good luck, Ben. I love his game.


Kidd ended up being able to hit free throws, and was an average 3-point shooter most of his career. His early career %'s look bad because he was taking a lot of off the dribble J's.

He didn't get left alone on the arc like Simmons.

[fourkicks44]

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[bizil]

He's not breaking into the top 5 UNTIL he can prove he can dominate scoring FROM a pass first mindset. Like a Bron, Magic, Big O, etc. Bron, KD, Giannis, Curry, Harden, AD, Kawhi, etc. give great scoring AND very good to great all around games. Those are the type of guys who are top 5 caliber players in the world. Ben isn't even top 10 in the league yet. AT BEST he's more in that top 15 area.

He's not as good as Giannis of course. BUT he has similar elements in his game in terms of being able to play and defend all five positions. Both are freak athletes who are among the best passers and rebounders at their respective positions. But the huge gap is Giannis' scoring ability!

[superduper]

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Soooo he's tall?

[bizil]

If he can carry even a bit of what he's doing over into october and beyond it's possible, but I don't think that's in his immediate future. Maybe if this is the getting his feet wet year shooting and he holds up ok, skys the limit. What i like is he's already an allstar level talent and can't shoot yet, upside upside upside.

Exactly! Despite his shortcomings, he's ALREADY an All Star! In terms of floor game (passing, defense, rebounding as a package), he's the best PG in the league already. Even if he NEVER improves his shooting or scoring ability much, he could still be an HOFer and perennial All Star. BUT if he does become a dominant scorer, he could be in the convo for best player in the world.

I'm not so much worried about him getting a great jumpshot. I'M MORE concerned about him being able to get alpha dog level scoring in his game. Giannis doesn't have an elite jumper. YET he still developed into an alpha dog level scorer. So the question is will he be more like a supersized Jason Kidd (which is a great thing). A great PG who is a triple double threat and great defender. OR will he be closer to a freak athletic version two way version of Magic! Which would be adding the offensive dominance of Magic ON TOP of his already epic floor game and freak athletic ability!

[fourkicks44]

Soooo he's tall?

There are no excuses for Ben or Joel this season.

Jimmy is gone. The point and leader role is all Ben's.

Joel got Horford so he can rest, take nights off whenever.

I'm don't need to defend them or blow smoke up there ass anymore.

They just gotta get it done.

[HylianNightmare]

I believe ij that shot as much as Fultz

[superduper]

I believe ij that shot as much as Fultz

Fultz is a much better shooter lets be honest now.

Ben is literally non existent as a shooter. Fultz is a natural shooter he just ****ed up his shoulder and now got a mental block because of it.

[ArbitraryWater]

looked pretty nice honestly