Spidey out of MCU

[Bawkish]

https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/20/20825580/marvel-studios-future-spider-man-films-disney-sony-fight-kevin-feige-mcu

Disney getting greedy again

[ROCSteady]

Holland vs. Hardy time

[Bawkish]

They can create their own Spider verse if Sony wishes it

a lot of possibilities: Maximum Carnage, Sinister Six etc

[bigkingsfan]

What else is left for him to do in the MCU though? The Avengers storyline is dead and he doesn't fit in any upcoming movies.

[Bawkish]

What else is left for him to do in the MCU though? The Avengers storyline is dead and he doesn't fit in any upcoming movies.

besides, making Spidey as some sort of successor to Iron Man is uncharacteristic

he didn't need those Stark gadgets just to become Spiderman

[scuzzy]

What else is left for him to do in the MCU though? The Avengers storyline is dead and he doesn't fit in any upcoming movies.
This

I mean how much more can you squeeze out of this redundant plotline? Save the city, save the country, save the world. I think they kinda peaked at save the universe with the last two. Not only that but they pretty much involved everyone, even scrubs like Antman :lol

Time to move on to new IP's

[Smoke117]

MCU Spiderman is atrocious anyway. He isn't even Spiderman, but Iron man Jr. It's cringe worthy how much they fukked over Spiderman. I didn't particularly like the reboot, but the action scenes were great as far as how Spiderman would actually be.

[coin24]

MCU Spiderman is atrocious anyway. He isn't even Spiderman, but Iron man Jr. It's cringe worthy how much they fukked over Spiderman. I didn't particularly like the reboot, but the action scenes were great as far as how Spiderman would actually be.


This. Mcu spidey is a whiney little soyboy..

[Real Men Wear Green]

They are churning out billion-dollar movies at will and people are asking how they can use their most popular character to make more money?

Anyway...there is too much money to be made for them not to work this out. This is most likely both sides playing hardball negotiations. The last Spiderman was the most profitable movie in Sony's history. They aren't going to walk away from this money. Thei just don't want to hand Marvel more of the profits. Solomon didn't have to cut the baby in half.

[Shogon]

They are churning out billion-dollar movies at will and people are asking how they can use their most popular character to make more money?

Anyway...there is too much money to be made for them not to work this out. This is most likely both sides playing hardball negotiations. The last Spiderman was the most profitable movie in Sony's history. They aren't going to walk away from this money. Thei just don't want to hand Marvel more of the profits. Solomon didn't have to cut the baby in half.

From a rational perspective I agree, but literally all it takes is one stupid executive with a massive ego/massive level of overconfidence for it to all fall apart.

The lady who brought Spidey to the MCU has been gone for a while because she got fired during the email hack iirc.

[Shogon]

On top of that, didn't Venom do like 800 million at the box office? I didn't even bother seeing that piece of shit and I'm sure there are a ton of people like me and it still did 800 million...

It's likely that Spider-Man movies will continue to do close to a billion each going forward regardless of Marvel's involvement... at least in the short term... maybe long term that drops back down to the 2/3/4 hundreds of millions mark as people figure out that it's not tied in any longer, but who knows.

[Thorpesaurous]

I honestly prefer the more concise superhero stories, where they can build a plot because they're not obligated to jam everyone in somewhere so the whole thing feels like a patchwork. But I'm not a huge superhero movie guy anyway. I really liked this recent Spiderman though.

[Micku]

What else is left for him to do in the MCU though? The Avengers storyline is dead and he doesn't fit in any upcoming movies.

Secret Wars.

And it'll be great to see a Norman Osborn go against the Avengers.

Spidy in general could be a moral compass for the Avengers, and could be a major role in the new Avengers. While he could be a leader, he is more of a loner. He's also a bit too young to be the guy.

While I don't like how the MCU is making him into be little Ironman, I don't really trust Sony to make a good live action spiderman movie like Marvel. But it could be a smart move by Disney part by making him so connected with Ironman, so if Sony takes Spidy out, the fans will be pissed. He is already on point to carry the torch.

I am wondering how they are going to do write Spidy off? Peter doesn't seem like the type to just give it up. Are they going to kill him or just make Tom Holland into a different made up superhero with the same powers of Spiderman? lol. Or are they going to make him Ironheart? A mixture of the two? Or maybe disney and sony will eventually make a deal?

[Real Men Wear Green]

Secret Wars.

And it'll be great to see a Norman Osborn go against the Avengers.

Spidy in general could be a moral compass for the Avengers, and could be a major role in the new Avengers. While he could be a leader, he is more of a loner. He's also a bit too young to be the guy.

While I don't like how the MCU is making him into be little Ironman, I don't really trust Sony to make a good live action spiderman movie like Marvel. But it could be a smart move by Disney part by making him so connected with Ironman, so if Sony takes Spidy out, the fans will be pissed. He is already on point to carry the torch.

I am wondering how they are going to do write Spidy off? Peter doesn't seem like the type to just give it up. Are they going to kill him or just make Tom Holland into a different made up superhero with the same powers of Spiderman? lol. Or are they going to make him Ironheart? A mixture of the two? Or maybe disney and sony will eventually make a deal?
There have been thousands of comic books that featured Spiderman. With 0 creativty of any kind there are already several hundred stories to mine for source material.

[Meticode]

I think something gets worked out. Everyone is mad at Sony on Twitter for the most part, but people should be upset with Disney/Marvel going to Sony and basically saying, "It was 5%, now we want 50%..." Undoubtedly anyone would say no to that. Sony is getting raped.

Hopefully they can meet up again and maybe do a counter offer or something. It'd be a failure to finally introduce arguably the most popular Marvel character ever in the MCU only to yank him away 4 years later.

[macmac]

I think Sony is smart enough to know that Spider-Man disappearing from the MCU never to be seen or mentioned again will throw a serious wrench in the world building and continuity that the MCU has worked so hard to achieve. It

[bladefd]

What else is left for him to do in the MCU though? The Avengers storyline is dead and he doesn't fit in any upcoming movies.

Whatever they do will make them a billion. They can put trash together and still make a billion. Sony, disney, everyone knows it is a cash cow so now they will fight over it for their shareholders.. America in a nutshell :oldlol:

[bladefd]

MCU Spiderman is atrocious anyway. He isn't even Spiderman, but Iron man Jr. It's cringe worthy how much they fukked over Spiderman. I didn't particularly like the reboot, but the action scenes were great as far as how Spiderman would actually be.

Sad part is that the agreement is Sony has to release a Spiderman movie every 2 years or they lose rights to him to Marvel aka Disney. They can't lose it because it is their billion dollar cash cow. So Sony will keep rebooting Spiderman every few movies :facepalm

[DaHeezy]

Spidey is bigger than Superman internationally

Sony in the driver seat. Unless they go the Secret wars route...

Whoever buys Beyonder will rule all

[bladefd]

[QUOTE=macmac]
They signed a contract and made a deal, now Disney wants to change it for what reason? Because they

[Facepalm]

I think Sony is smart enough to know that Spider-Man disappearing from the MCU never to be seen or mentioned again will throw a serious wrench in the world building and continuity that the MCU has worked so hard to achieve. It’s not just about the profit of each movie, it’s about the overall balance. Same reason why Feige was so tentative to mix the tv shows with the movies, overall quality control.

That’s why Sony is the one putting out statements and Disney is so tight lipped.

They signed a contract and made a deal, now Disney wants to change it for what reason? Because they’re successful? They knew the movies would be successful from the get go, that’s why they made this unprecedented merger deal. The projected success was built in to the original agreement.

I don’t understand how fans can take Disney’s side on this, even if Disney was to make 0$ on this deal, they should honour the agreement to keep the MCU world intact and smooth as that is worth more than any individual franchise.
The contract already ran it's course. Far from Home was the last movie.
They are negotiating a new contract. Marvel wrote and produced the new SM movies, Sony took 95% of the profit. Asking for 50% now is too much of course, but that's just an opening bid. Disney certainly deserves more than 5%

Also, you can say the same thing now about SM. He was so intertwined with Ironman, but now can't mention Stark(his mentor, father figure and a huge plotpoint in the previous movies), Fury, Shield, the Avengers or even May's new bf Happy? I guess it's back to fighting Green goblin and killing Uncle Ben. Marvel can use SM sure, but they don't NEED him. People forget that IM and CA were B-listers before the MCU. GoTG and BP were C and D listers. Also, don't forget that Disney now has F4, Blade and X-Men back. Sony has....Morbius next :facepalm. I saw Venom, and even though it made money, it was terrible. Now if they do that to an A lister like Venom, imagine how bad a Silver Sable or Sinister 6 movie will be because that's what Sony is developing now. Into the Spiderverse was legit good, but that only made around 300 million. Also, animation and live action are totally different. see: Dc cartoons vs DCEU


Sony is putting out statements for damage control since the fanboys are blaming them for all this. The fans have a point. Marvel's Spiderman is far better than Sony's, except for maybe the OG SM2.


#Neverforget

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[Real Men Wear Green]

Spidey is bigger than Superman internationally

Sony in the driver seat. Unless they go the Secret wars route...

Whoever buys Beyonder will rule all
The collaboration with Marvel resulted in the highest-grossing Sony movie ofalltime.But it was not the biggest Marvel movie of all time.The MCU is that snowball rolling down the hill that just gets bigger and bigger. Kevin Feige, Marvel's creative team and the intertwined MCU are what Sony needs to be a part of to make the kind of insanely profitable movie Homecoming was. Their last Garfield Spiderman made 200 mil. Homecoming will beat that by a factor of 10, at the very least.

I'm not taking a side in terms of right and wrong, if anyone is breaking their word/the contract that would be wrong but I'm pretty sure that a breached contract would be getting litigated in court. I'm just saying that Sony has the weaker hand here

X-factor to consider: Right or wrong, the general public appears to be blaming Sony and some people are talking about boycotting their Spiderman movies. People are going to know that any movie they make without Marvel is not part of the MCU and many comic movie fans are resentful of them potentially damaging the MCU, a resentment that will affect their box office.

I don't know for certain what they would spend to make a Spiderman movie but they need to think real hard about how much money they won't make once they step out of the MCU. They could cost themselves hundreds of Millions of dollars.

Last thought for now: Just a few years ago in the comic books, Jean Grey, Cyclops, Wolverine, and Professor X were all dead. They let the boring Inhumans that no one cares about beat the crap out of the XMen and wrote Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch out of Magneto's family. I'm betting that was related to Marvel not having the movie rights. They are all now resurrected and that's got to be about Marvel buying FOX. Similarly, a few years ago, Peter Parker was dead. If this keeps up, expect him to die again. I have no quote from anyone regarding this subject but I still feel sure that Marvel does this because the movies are their real money-makers and they view the comics as just some kind of ad or appetizer for the movies they're making. Thus by killing key characters they can damage the value of the property for the opposing movie studio and eventually regaining the right to make movies.

[Facepalm]

The collaboration with Marvel resulted in the highest-grossing Sony movie ofalltime.But it was not the biggest Marvel movie of all time.The MCU is that snowball rolling down the hill that just gets bigger and bigger. Kevin Feige, Marvel's creative team and the intertwined MCU are what Sony needs to be a part of to make the kind of insanely profitable movie Homecoming was. Their last Garfield Spiderman made 200 mil. Homecoming will beat that by a factor of 10, at the very least.

I'm not taking a side in terms of right and wrong, if anyone is breaking their word/the contract that would be wrong but I'm pretty sure that a breached contract would be getting litigated in court. I'm just saying that Sony has the weaker hand here.
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-factors to consider: Right or wrong, the general public appears to be blaming Sony and some people are talking about boycotting their Spiderman movies. People are going to know that any movie they make without Marvel is not part of the MCU and many comic movie fans are resentful of them potentially damaging the MCU, a resentment that will affect their box office.

I don't know for certain what they would spend to make a Spiderman movie but they need to think real hard about how much money they won't make once they step out of the MCU. They could cost themselves hundreds of Millions of dollars.

Last thought for now: Just a few years ago in the comic books, Jean Grey, Cyclops, Wolverine, and Professor X were all dead. They let the boring Inhumans that no one cares about beat the crap out of the XMen and wrote Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch out of Magneto's family. I'm betting that was related to Marvel not having the movie rights. They are all now resurrected and that's got to be about Marvel buying FOX. Similarly, a few years ago, Peter Parker was dead. If this keeps up, expect him to die again. I have no quote from anyone regarding this subject but I still feel sure that Marvel does this because the movies are their real money-makers and they view the comics as just some kind of ad or appetizer for the movies they're making. Thus by killing key characters they can damage the value of the property for the opposing movie studio and eventually regaining the right to make movies.

Here's another thought...If Disney no longer needs to play nice with Sony what's to stop them for waiting until Sony announces the release date for SM: Prom Night and Disney says...guess what...BP 2, Avengers 5 or X-Men are coming out the same weekend? Sony would get absolutely steam rolled. I think they did something similar to one of DC's movies.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Here's another thought...If Disney no longer needs to play nice with Sony what's to stop them for waiting until Sony announces the release date for SM: Prom Night and Disney says...guess what...BP 2, Avengers 5 or X-Men are coming out the same weekend? Sony would get absolutely steam rolled. I think they did something similar to one of DC's movies.
The MCU X-Men release is going to blot out the sun.

[Facepalm]

By the way Spiderman's last director, the one that helped it reach 1 billion, now says his role is uncertain due to the ongoing dispute. He was originally on board to direct the 3rd one.

[Facepalm]

The MCU X-Men release is going to blot out the sun.
Troof. Rumors are saying it will culminate with Avengers vs X-Men

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[macmac]

The contract already ran it's course. Far from Home was the last movie.
They are negotiating a new contract. Marvel wrote and produced the new SM movies, Sony took 95% of the profit. Asking for 50% now is too much of course, but that's just an opening bid. Disney certainly deserves more than 5%

Also, you can say the same thing now about SM. He was so intertwined with Ironman, but now can't mention Stark(his mentor, father figure and a huge plotpoint in the previous movies), Fury, Shield, the Avengers or even May's new bf Happy? I guess it's back to fighting Green goblin and killing Uncle Ben. Marvel can use SM sure, but they don't NEED him. People forget that IM and CA were B-listers before the MCU. GoTG and BP were C and D listers. Also, don't forget that Disney now has F4, Blade and X-Men back. Sony has....Morbius next :facepalm. I saw Venom, and even though it made money, it was terrible. Now if they do that to an A lister like Venom, imagine how bad a Silver Sable or Sinister 6 movie will be because that's what Sony is developing now. Into the Spiderverse was legit good, but that only made around 300 million. Also, animation and live action are totally different. see: Dc cartoons vs DCEU


Sony is putting out statements for damage control since the fanboys are blaming them for all this. The fans have a point. Marvel's Spiderman is far better than Sony's, except for maybe the OG SM2.


#Neverforget

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Are you sure the contract ran its course? From what I

[Facepalm]

Are you sure the contract ran its course? From what I’ve read that wasn’t the case but it was all Reddit and forum stuff. If that’s the case, then that does change things a bit.

As far as SM continuity you’re right, but they can always reboot like the bastards they are. Much tougher to reboot the MCU
Yup contract is over, they were negotiating new terms.

The arrangement between Marvel Studios and Sony Pictures to collaborate on Spider-Man movies is reportedly over, with Sony opting to not renew a deal that would have seen Marvel/Disney take 50% of any future Spider-Man movie profits in exchange for the creative guidance of producer and MCU boss Kevin Feige.
That means Spider-Man is effectively out of the MCU and back into his own solo movie universe overseen solely by Sony.

Former Sony boss and ongoing Spider-Man producer Amy Pascal caused a stir in 2017 when she said, "One of the things that I think is so amazing about this experience is that you don’t have studios deciding to work together to make a film very often. In fact it may never happen again, after we do the sequel [to Spider-Man: Homecoming]."

There's no need to reboot the MCU currently. Disney has so many properties under the Marvel banner to play with right now. Avengers isn't even on the board until phase 5 at the earliest

[bladefd]

Here's another thought...If Disney no longer needs to play nice with Sony what's to stop them for waiting until Sony announces the release date for SM: Prom Night and Disney says...guess what...BP 2, Avengers 5 or X-Men are coming out the same weekend? Sony would get absolutely steam rolled. I think they did something similar to one of DC's movies.

That's true. Sony was edging towards bankruptcy - they can't keep up with Disney, who is bathing in enough money to buy Sony outright :confusedshrug:

[Facepalm]

That's true. Sony was edging towards bankruptcy - they can't keep up with Disney, who is bathing in enough money to buy Sony outright :confusedshrug:
I don't want Disney to buy Sony. They are more than big enough. I do want them to get Spiderman back though. Let's give Sony Alien, Predator, Planet of the Apes, Die Hard, and Kingsmen for the rights to Spiderman. Those franchises aren't suitable for the Mouse anyways.

[red1]

the only thing about this that annoys me is that I enjoyed the **** out of the spiderman ps4 game and was hoping for other marvel characters in the sequels.


that's some minor shit though. I'm pulling for sony they have the tools to get this right they just need to make sure they connect on some of the spinoff films because if the morbius black cat venom2 movies flop then they're in real trouble.

[Real Men Wear Green]

the only thing about this that annoys me is that I enjoyed the **** out of the spiderman ps4 game and was hoping for other marvel characters in the sequels.


that's some minor shit though. I'm pulling for sony they have the tools to get this right they just need to make sure they connect on some of the spinoff films because if the morbius black cat venom2 movies flop then they're in real trouble.
Which begs the question, who wants to seeMorbius or Black Cat movie? Marvel took Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist, even Daredevil and put them in series on Netflix. Black Cat and Morbius are probably less important characters than them, definitely below Daredevil. Black Cat is really just a Catwoman knockoff.

[MaxFly]

What else is left for him to do in the MCU though? The Avengers storyline is dead and he doesn't fit in any upcoming movies.

Phase 5, young Avengers... :confusedshrug:

[Facepalm]

So it turns out that Marvel has Spiderman's exclusive TV rights. Sony only owns the movie rights. Disney could afford a fvck you move and continue Holland's story on Disney+ :oldlol:

[Real Men Wear Green]

So it turns out that Marvel has Spiderman's exclusive TV rights. Sony only owns the movie rights. Disney could afford a fvck you move and continue Holland's story on Disney+ :oldlol:
To disagree a little he might be too big a star for that. He was looking at being the main focus of the biggest movie series in history, may be hard to get him to commit to a series on a streaming service and it may be hard to pay him the way he's expecting to get paid when he's just doing a series on Disney +.

[Facepalm]

To disagree a little he might be too big a star for that. He was looking at being the main focus of the biggest movie series in history, may be hard to get him to commit to a series on a streaming service and it may be hard to pay him the way he's expecting to get paid when he's just doing a series on Disney +.
Yeah I know, just think it would a funny FU. Pay Holland what he made in the movies but put him on Disney+. BTW, It was Marvel that made him a star. He was just another up and comer with a handful of small movies before that. I'm sure he wants to stay with Marvel over Sony anyways. Sony will find a way to screw Spiderman up if left on their own. Ask Garfield how his career is going right now.

[bladefd]

Which begs the question, who wants to seeMorbius or Black Cat movie? Marvel took Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist, even Daredevil and put them in series on Netflix. Black Cat and Morbius are probably less important characters than them, definitely below Daredevil. Black Cat is really just a Catwoman knockoff.

Who doesn't want to see a Black cat movie???

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[Micku]

Troof. Rumors are saying it will culminate with Avengers vs X-Men

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That comic was meh imo. Hopefully the movies will make it better.

And I don't trust Sony making a good live action Spiderman movie. They failed like three times in a row for me. Into the Spiderverse was good, but was animated.

I do wann'a see more stuff like Spiderman 2 or the PS4 Spiderman game story. Probably won't get that with Disney's Spiderman since they are going more of the light hearted route. No Mary Jane. No Uncle Ben. And Sony still has the rights with some of Spidy's interesting and cool villains.

It would be cool to see Spiderman grow up in the MCU and be a leader or just mature. Alas, we might not see that.

And with Black Cat....I wann'a see Black Cat with Spiderman. Same with Venom. Same with Carnage. Same with Morbius.

[Facepalm]

That comic was meh imo. Hopefully the movies will make it better.

And I don't trust Sony making a good live action Spiderman movie. They like three times in a row for me. Into the Spiderverse was good, but was animated.

I do wann'a see more stuff like Spiderman 2 or the PS4 Spiderman game story. Probably won't get that with Disney's Spiderman since they are going more of the light hearted route. No Mary Jane. No Uncle Ben. And Sony still has the rights with some of Spidy's interesting and cool villains.

It would be cool to see Spiderman grow up in the MCU and be a leader or just mature. Alas, we might not see that.

And with Black Cat....I wann'a see Black Cat with Spiderman. Same with Venom. Same with Carnage. Same with Morbius.

The comic sucked, but doubt they will follow that. Just like Civil War, they will just use the name and broad idea.

[Bawkish]

Yeah I know, just think it would a funny FU. Pay Holland what he made in the movies but put him on Disney+. BTW, It was Marvel that made him a star. He was just another up and comer with a handful of small movies before that. I'm sure he wants to stay with Marvel over Sony anyways. Sony will find a way to screw Spiderman up if left on their own. Ask Garfield how his career is going right now.

i read somewhere that it was Sony that casted Holland as Spidey, not Disney

Disney wanted Asa Butterfield as Spiderman, can you imagine that?

Blaming Sony for fuking up Spidey's storyline in MCU is misplaced. It was Marvel's decision to include Spidey in their universe, not Sony. So it was their obligation to their fans to come up with solution to handle future storylines involving Spidey.

Spiderman can survive without MCU, just like before. Besides, Spidey should be a lone wolf kind of superhero. That's what makes him special in the comics.

[highwhey]

not a huge MCU fan, but if they made an avengers vs x-men movie...damn.

too bad hugh jackson won't play wolverine again.

logan was the GOAT marvel movie.

[Facepalm]

i read somewhere that it was Sony that casted Holland as Spidey, not Disney

Disney wanted Asa Butterfield as Spiderman, can you imagine that?

Blaming Sony for fuking up Spidey's storyline in MCU is misplaced. It was Marvel's decision to include Spidey in their universe, not Sony. So it was their obligation to their fans to come up with solution to handle future storylines involving Spidey.

Spiderman can survive without MCU, just like before. Besides, Spidey should be a lone wolf kind of superhero. That's what makes him special in the comics.

Uhhh..Spiderman 3 was terrible and Garfield's versions weren't great either. Venom sucked too. Spiderverse was good though. The MCU Spiderman has been the best live version hands down.

[Bawkish]

Uhhh..Spiderman 3 was terrible and Garfield's versions weren't great either. Venom sucked too. Spiderverse was good though. The MCU Spiderman has been the best live version hands down.

Regardless of the quality, they still made money though business wise

MCU Spiderman is a good storyline but it is a big departure to the character roots. Like i said, i prefer a lone wolf Spiderman who has his own story rather than sharing a universal storyline

[Kblaze8855]

Rumors:



According to the new deal Disney wants:

- A 6-picture deal with Tom Holland, with an option for a 7th.

- There are three more Spider-Man films after Spider-Man 3, which will be a new trilogy.

- The second trilogy will focus on Peter Parker's college years including plans for Peter to meet up and team up with Firestar and Ice Man of the X-Men (based in part on the old Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends cartoon).

- The other three movies are two Avengers films in which Spider-Man will have a larger role and become friends with Johnny Storm (Human Torch from the Fantastic Four).

- Marvel Studios will helm and co-finance all Spider-Man related movies for 30% of the full profits (Disney previously wanted 50%, but Sony said no, which led to the talks falling apart).

- Sony would distribute, but Disney will acquire exclusive digital and online rights for Disney Plus and affiliated TV networks.

- Marvel Studios will helm and co-finance SpiderVerse live-action spinoffs under the same terms.



- Venom will relocate into the MCU.

- Sony will be given permission for TV live-action programs based on SpiderVerse properties (Sony only has film rights to Spider-Man, but needs permission from Disney for TV rights)

- Disney wants the deal to be done before Saturday's Marvel panel at D23 Expo.

- Spider-Man is also said to be a part of a D23 Expo panel.

Additional details:
- It's said Tom Holland wants to stay with the MCU (it's been reported both Holland and Zendaya unfollowed Sony on Instagram).

Fair enough?

[Facepalm]

Rumors:




Fair enough?
Sure. Just wish Disney would buy Spiderman back outright so they don't have to go through this again after 6 movies. Also, bringing Venom in is fine but what about the rest of the Spider characters? Would still be weird to have Morbius and Black Cat cross over to Spiderman but have not be in the MCU. They don't need to meet the Avengers or anything like that, but just acknowledgement that they are in the same universe would be fine

[superduper]

Well at least they made Spiderverse before this happened.

GOAT movie :rockon: :rockon:

[red1]

Which begs the question, who wants to seeMorbius or Black Cat movie? Marvel took Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist, even Daredevil and put them in series on Netflix. Black Cat and Morbius are probably less important characters than them, definitely below Daredevil. Black Cat is really just a Catwoman knockoff.
real talk. it's almost as bad as dc with their birds of prey bullshit making a movie that no one cares about.


if sony is smart they'll restart their work on venom two, include tom holland, title it spiderman and venom: maximum carnage and give them a supervillian team-up to fight carnage and any other spiderman villain like hobgoblin. that would be dope.

[red1]

Well at least they made Spiderverse before this happened.

GOAT movie :rockon: :rockon:
they're gonna keep cranking those out. disney had nothing to do with spiderverse...

[superduper]

they're gonna keep cranking those out. disney had nothing to do with spiderverse...

Marvel and Sony did though no? Aren't those the two parties that the dispute is over?

[red1]

Marvel and Sony did though no? Aren't those the two parties that the dispute is over?
sony has the rights to all of the characters in the spiderverse movie they're gonna keep making those the dispute is over spiderman's inclusion in the mcu the mainline movies.

they were setting up a sequel with spiderman being framed and exposed to the world I'm guessing sinister six with scorpion and vulture return and other marvel characters but that's not gonna happen now apparently.


I don't think it's a big deal to be honest they still have a ton of spiderman characters they haven't done carnage kraven hobgoblin they still have a ton of stories they can do.

[eliteballer]

Whatever, they've been churning out spider-man movies nonstop for 15 years, give it a rest.

[Shogon]

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[Lakers Legend#32]

At least Sony gave us Kristen Dunst's hooters.