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k0kakw0rld
08-22-2019, 03:26 PM
The man cares more about winning MVPs than actually winning championships. Adding another stat whore in Westbrook can only result in DISASTER. :facepalm

Link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znt-68BpvR4)

Spurs m8
08-22-2019, 03:57 PM
Yep

The dude is everything that is wrong with the world.

Absolute fvckwit.

Him and Westbrook are gonna implode

Shogon
08-22-2019, 04:01 PM
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Smook A.
08-22-2019, 07:10 PM
He said media narratives mostly determine the MVP... which isn't a wrong statement at all

StrongLurk
08-22-2019, 07:12 PM
Harden is speaking the truth tho.

GreekFreak was great, but Harden's regular season was legendary.

Shogon
08-22-2019, 07:12 PM
He said media narratives mostly determine the MVP... which isn't a wrong statement at all

Yeah, you're right, it's not a wrong statement. But those very media narratives are the only reason he ever won the award in the first place.

Media narratives are why the award doesn't always go to the best player, of which, James Harden has never been, and will never be. He's an overhyped garbage ******.

leBron Bieber
08-22-2019, 07:25 PM
Harden averaged more points than prime Kobe( most skilled sg of all time to some ) when everyone swore he was robbed for mvp and had a higher seed

With cp3 injured on n off all year

He

Smook A.
08-22-2019, 08:28 PM
Yeah, you're right, it's not a wrong statement. But those very media narratives are the only reason he ever won the award in the first place.

Media narratives are why the award doesn't always go to the best player, of which, James Harden has never been, and will never be. He's an overhyped garbage ******.
You sound really upset. Harden has been 2nd place in MVP voting 3 times in the past 5 years already. You can definitely make a solid argument that he should have 2-4 MVPs instead of just 1.

NBAGOAT
08-22-2019, 09:20 PM
yes the rockets were expected to be great while the bucks would've been satisfied with 50 wins and a 4 seed. Then the injuries for rockets hit and the bucks outperformed. People myself included really can undersell how much good coaching matters.

However a decent amount of that improvement was still due to Giannis himself. Improvement on both sides of the ball including being a legit dpoy candidate. Cant say he was undeserving at all

Shogon
08-22-2019, 09:23 PM
You sound really upset. Harden has been 2nd place in MVP voting 3 times in the past 5 years already. You can definitely make a solid argument that he should have 2-4 MVPs instead of just 1.

James Harden plays almost exclusively for himself. He is the most overrated star player in the league by far.

FKAri
08-22-2019, 09:28 PM
It would be so satisfying to see a man with no respect for the sport, its history, and especially its fans, to reach the apex. Not saying Harden is that guy but I wish he'd go full heel already. Just say "**** championships get glory" and then win a ring anyways. I sincerely want this to happen more than anything in basketball. The NBA needs its Trump.

Mask the Embiid
08-22-2019, 09:39 PM
Harden or LeBron literally should of won 11 of the last 11 MVP awards....and this is coming from an unbiased Embiid fan who has no hat in the race.




Harden should of been the MVP 4 or 5 str8 years and before that lebron should have been MVP the other 7.


It is what it is though...both already are top 20 players of all time

Spurs m8
08-22-2019, 10:15 PM
He said media narratives mostly determine the MVP... which isn't a wrong statement at all

Well it is literally the only reason he won one...and tarnished the award forever...so he should be thankful

superduper
08-23-2019, 12:42 AM
James Harden plays almost exclusively for himself. He is the most overrated star player in the league by far.

Funny you stan Bran

RealSkipBayless
08-23-2019, 01:18 AM
That's how it's always been.

It's why the Westbrook triple double phenom (despite teammates gift warping rebounds for him) got him the award.

It's why Rose stole the MVP from Lebron. Only reason why James Harden got his was because it was from pure pity of losing to Curry. Basically letting him have a turn.

PeroAntic
08-23-2019, 05:19 AM
Harden is so cringe. Biggest loser in recent NBA history.

LoneyROY7
08-23-2019, 06:02 AM
That's how it's always been.

It's why the Westbrook triple double phenom (despite teammates gift warping rebounds for him) got him the award.

It's why Rose stole the MVP from Lebron. Only reason why James Harden got his was because it was from pure pity of losing to Curry. Basically letting him have a turn.

30/9/5 on a 65 win team. Yeah, it was pure pity. :lol :lol :lol

What a f*cking retard you are. :oldlol: :oldlol:

Wally450
08-23-2019, 09:41 AM
James Harden plays almost exclusively for himself. He is the most overrated star player in the league by far.

Nah, Ben Simmons takes that. If you even consider him a star.

Harden is one of the most talented players in the league.

imdaman99
08-23-2019, 10:27 AM
He said media narratives mostly determine the MVP... which isn't a wrong statement at all
Kinda shitting on Westbrook's MVP by saying that. Not a good look Harden :no: appreciate your buddy, he will go through a wall for you.

AirTupac
08-23-2019, 11:24 AM
You sound really upset. Harden has been 2nd place in MVP voting 3 times in the past 5 years already. You can definitely make a solid argument that he should have 2-4 MVPs instead of just 1.


Harden should be grateful he has his 1 mvp. The dude is the least MVP-like player in the last decade.

superduper
08-23-2019, 11:27 AM
Harden should be grateful he has his 1 mvp. The dude is the least MVP-like player in the last decade.

To be fair before him Houston was irrelevant and since he's been their first option they're pretty much WCF lock every year.

People let their hate of the guy cloud their judgement of his actual skill level as a player.

warriorfan
08-23-2019, 11:36 AM
MVP has always heavily been about narrative, this isn

egokiller
08-23-2019, 11:58 AM
30/9/5 on a 65 win team. Yeah, it was pure pity. :lol :lol :lol

What a f*cking retard you are. :oldlol: :oldlol:

That

RealSkipBayless
08-23-2019, 01:44 PM
30/9/5 on a 65 win team. Yeah, it was pure pity. :lol :lol :lol

What a f*cking retard you are.

This kid mad as shit. :lol

You know who had better numbers and had to carry much more weight? Lebron James. But the media felt bad for frauden continuing to pad for a regular season award and coming up short every single time. Doesn't get anymore pity than collecting a "players mvp" award. :lol :lol

30/9/5 for harden. By the what was his FG% and how many TO's did he average? You seem to have left that out.

Smook A.
08-23-2019, 02:33 PM
Kinda shitting on Westbrook's MVP by saying that. Not a good look Harden :no: appreciate your buddy, he will go through a wall for you.
I get why he was upset about 2017 tho. He thought winning mattered a lot more, since that was the case in 2015 when Curry won it over Harden. Warriors won 67 games that year while Rockets won 56 with their main core outside of Harden missing significant time.

Smook A.
08-23-2019, 02:34 PM
Harden should be grateful he has his 1 mvp. The dude is the least MVP-like player in the last decade.
Stop posting on basketball forums, you clearly don't know your stuff to be saying that nonsense.

Smook A.
08-23-2019, 02:41 PM
This kid mad as shit. :lol

You know who had better numbers and had to carry much more weight? Lebron James. But the media felt bad for frauden continuing to pad for a regular season award and coming up short every single time. Doesn't get anymore pity than collecting a "players mvp" award. :lol :lol

30/9/5 for harden. By the what was his FG% and how many TO's did he average? You seem to have left that out.
Harden put up 30/9/5 on 60.5% TS in 2017-18

LeBron averaged 27.5/9/9 on 62% TS

Harden averaged 4.4 tpg and LeBron averaged 4.2 tpg so don't even use the turnovers argument against Harden.

The Rockets won 65 games, which was a league best. LeBron led the Cavs to 50 wins. And yes, I know about their injuries, but the Rockets dealt with injuries too that season. CP3 missed 24 games, Eric Gordon missed 13, and Capela missed 8.

Don't even say Harden's MVP award was out of pity, because it wasn't. He definitely deserved the award

Manny98
08-23-2019, 03:02 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/ZqfP3zpq/Ddc-H2ty-V0-AAkio-T.jpg

Harden is the last person who should be talking about being robbed for MVP when he robbed the MVP from LeBron last year :oldlol:

red1
08-23-2019, 03:20 PM
I would love to grab harden and shave his beard by force.




bet he wouldn't do shit.

Smook A.
08-23-2019, 03:50 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/ZqfP3zpq/Ddc-H2ty-V0-AAkio-T.jpg

Harden is the last person who should be talking about being robbed for MVP when he robbed the MVP from LeBron last year :oldlol:
Here we go again with this bullshit image. LeBron played 10 more games than Harden did which already doesn't make this graphic fair. Who the hell uses TOTALS? It's much better to use averages

Additionally, minutes played AND total games were added just to give LeBron a little more checkmarks than Harden :oldlol: That's a little redundant don't ya think?

Harden had him beat in ppg, PER, win shares, and spg. Their apg, TS%, and tpg were nearly identical.

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Smoke117
08-23-2019, 03:54 PM
Harden only had four triple doubles in 2017? That's really low considering he was averaging 11.2apg and 8.1rpg. You'd think he'd had hit double digits for sure.

Smook A.
08-23-2019, 03:57 PM
Harden only had four triple doubles in 2017? That's really low considering he was averaging 11.2apg and 8.1rpg. You'd think he'd had hit double digits for sure.
4 in 2018

The season he averaged 11.2 apg and 8.1 rpg was during the 2016-17 season where he had 22 triple doubles

Smoke117
08-23-2019, 04:02 PM
4 in 2018

The season he averaged 11.2 apg and 8.1 rpg was during the 2016-17 season where he had 22 triple doubles

Oh, my bad. Wrong season.

Manny98
08-23-2019, 04:05 PM
Here we go again with this bullshit image. LeBron played 10 more games than Harden did which already doesn't make this graphic fair. Who the hell uses TOTALS? It's much better to use averages

Additionally, minutes played AND total games were added just to give LeBron a little more checkmarks than Harden :oldlol: That's a little redundant don't ya think?

Harden had him beat in ppg, PER, win shares, and spg. Their apg, TS%, and tpg were nearly identical.

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And Rockets went 7-3 without Harden that season whilst the Cavs without LeBron would be the worst team in the league proving LeBron was much more valuable to his team than Harden was

Smook A.
08-23-2019, 04:14 PM
And Rockets went 7-3 without Harden that season whilst the Cavs without LeBron would be the worst team in the league proving LeBron was much more valuable to his team than Harden was
6 of those 7 wins were against non-playoff teams