what would you do if your son was gay?

[KobesOneUglyTat]

what would you say if your son came up to you and said, "daddy, i like other men"?

the right thing to do would be accept him for who he was


sorry this was meant for the off court forum mods feel free to move it.

[Agent_Zero]

what would you say if your son came up to you and said, "daddy, i like sucking c0ck"?

the right thing to do would be accept him for who he was


sorry this was meant for the off court forum mods feel free to move it.


i would still love him. he's my son and nothing will change that.

[TMacsOneGoodEye]

I'd give him your myspace.

[bigkingsfan]

http://www.semissourian.com/photos/10/21/04/1021041-L.jpg

[The Hurricane]

http://www.semissourian.com/photos/10/21/04/1021041-L.jpg


:rolleyes:

Make fun of Benoit all you want but please do not make fun of him killing his 7 year old son, you're a sick sob.

[fatboy11]

I'd slap the fu*k out of him.

Then do this.....


http://www.semissourian.com/photos/10/21/04/1021041-L.jpg

[fatboy11]

:rolleyes:It was funny.

Shut up.

[statman32]

Bigkingsfan that is def poor taste right there. Especially since he actually did actually strangle his son to death. I would recommend removing that picture.

[fatboy11]

Bigkingsfan that is def poor taste right there. Especially since he actually did actually strangle his son to death. I would recommend removing that picture.Nah.

This is a big boys' board. It is in poor taste, but, sometimes, poor taste is hilarious.

I vote to keep it up.

[Wadeisabeast]

http://www.allisongordin.com/effects/images/beating_rising_place_jpg.jpg








just kidding. I'm never gonna have kids

[statman32]

Nah.

This is a big boys' board. It is in poor taste, but, sometimes, poor taste is hilarious.

I vote to keep it up.
What does this being a big boys board have anything to do with poor taste? No one should be making jokes out of a 7 year old dying. I find no humor in that and I'm the kind of person that likes extreme insult comedy.

[Targus]

it's funny but at the same time it's wrong. imagine how you would feel if you were closer to the family or him and not just talking about it on a message board. anyway, My lil boy does't even know gay is a word yet so it's a little early to be making conclusions :cheers:

[saKf]

what would you do if your son was gay?
Anything I could to make his life easier and less hate-filled, as I'd suspect that few others would help in that department.

[Chalkmaze]

Anything I could to make his life easier and less hate-filled, as I'd suspect that few others would help in that department.
:applause:

[fatboy11]

What does this being a big boys board have anything to do with poor taste? No one should be making jokes out of a 7 year old dying. I find no humor in that and I'm the kind of person that likes extreme insult comedy."Big boys" don't get bent out of shape over "poor taste". I have to censor myself from saying things that are in poor taste all day at work. I'm not going to do it some fu*king internet message board and neither should anyone else.

If you take anything here seriously, man, I'm sorry for you.

[gts]

Anything I could to make his life easier and less hate-filled, as I'd suspect that few others would help in that department. well said sakf....

then i'd sue the doctors for telling me he was a girl at the hospital... no wonder the poor kids gay, we have been outfitting him in dresses for 12 years....

[statman32]

"Big boys" don't get bent out of shape over "poor taste". I have to censor myself from saying things that are in poor taste all day at work. I'm not going to do it some fu*king internet message board and neither should anyone else.

If you take anything here seriously, man, I'm sorry for you.
So because it's a message board we are free to do whatever the **** we want? That's not how it works. Keep your "bad taste" to yourself or at least only bring it out privately with other people that will enjoy it and not out in public and yes I do consider a message board to be public.

BTW "big boys" do get bent out of shape when someone makes fun of a 7 year old boy dying. Making fun of innocent kids is not cool at all.

[fatboy11]

So because it's a message board we are free to do whatever the **** we want? That's not how it works. Keep your "bad taste" to yourself or at least only bring it out privately with other people that will enjoy it and not out in public and yes I do consider a message board to be public.

BTW "big boys" do get bent out of shape when someone makes fun of a 7 year old boy dying. Making fun of innocent kids is not cool at all.Hold on, partner.

There is a thing called freedom of speech in this country. You can say mean things. Like I said, I'm sorry you take things people say on message boards so seriously.

So making fun of innocent kids isn't cool. No one said it was. But his joke, though in "bad taste", was funny. Some will admit it, some won't. We've both chosen our sides.

:applause: you for caring, my friend. You're a good guy.

[HollaBolla]

I'll move my son to Gayville, San Francisco.:confusedshrug:

[knicks15]

un-gay him.

[i seen hippos]

What if Benoit actually performed the cross face crippler on his.....nvm.

Anyone who saw the pic was thinking it though.

[KillaCamNOHOMO]

What if Benoit actually performed the cross face crippler on his.....nvm.

Anyone who saw the pic was thinking it though.


i remember seeing benoit smile on wwf shows alot.. the gap between his teeth probably led to him hanging himself.. that was a disturbing image

[Kiddlovesnets]

I don't have a son, and my idea may be a sort of subjective:
Just take him to whorehouse to make him have interest in woman.

[Sean77]

I have an aunt who's gay. She's always going to be my aunt and I got love for her always, but she knows where I stand on homosexuality. I'd be the same way with my son. My love for my child is based on the fact that he's my child, not on the decisions he make. By the time he approaches me about that he will have known my standpoint on homosexuality. I would ask him is this the way he wants it to be(very important, very rarely is this question asked and for some young people they have mixed feelings sexually and simply need guidance). If it is, then it's between him and the Lord , because I can't force another person to think or feel or believe a certain way. Not even God forces himself on people like that.

He would know I don't approve of homosexuality, but he would also know I love him no matter what. He may not want to believe that, for many people believe you can't say you love a person and disagree with how they live their life, that you have to accept it all. But Jesus was able to not agree with people and still show love.

[reppy]

I used to think it was hilarious to mock innocent people that died. Then I turned 18.

[KillaCamNOHOMO]

I used to think it was hilarious to mock innocent people that died. Then I turned 18.

i used to think it was sad chris benoit passed away, until i found out he smothered his dwarfed 7 year old son

[El Kabong]

I wouldn't care if my son was gay. I'd care though if my grown up son still called me "Daddy".

[Jailblazers7]

Id accept him.

[lovethetriangle]

I honestly have no clue and hope to never need to have a clue.

[skan72]

As many others have said, I would love him just the same and not think of him any differently. He is my son for goodness sake, anyone who says they would try and change him, that is wrong.

[tpcslj47]

Just ask Randy's dad.

[Randy]

Just ask Randy's dad.

I have two moms.

[Wizardly Cool]

what would you say if your son came up to you and said, "daddy, i like other men"?

the right thing to do would be accept him for who he was


sorry this was meant for the off court forum mods feel free to move it.

No... the "right" thing to do would be to put in one of dad's old classic porn tapes then dad and son sit on the couch and spank themselves until the dad was damn sure his son was not gay anymore.

[Skyscraper]

If my son were gay, I would tell him to continue to live his life, but after 18, I would disown him

[Wizardly Cool]

If my son were gay, I would tell him to continue to live his life, but after 18, I would disown him

Your love for a son or daughter is unconditional. Therefore, you should never "disown" a son or daughter for any reason, ever. If it were my son, I'd still love my son, but I wouldn't support my son's lifestyle, and he'd know it 100%.

[Amigo]

Life sucks. Shyt happens. Deal with it. It was funny.

Sticking to the subject I'd beat the living day lights out of him.

[beau_boy04]

mmmm i don't know if I'd be able to accept such behavior. I'd probably introduce him to hot females of mine, if that doesn't work, I'd take him to stripclubs and maybe even whorehouses, as they once said "once you're inside" a whole lotta things change.

Thanks. :cheers:

[SJellen]

id ask him for a loan. :D him and his partner bring home 2 male incomes. :applause: hes rich :banana:

[evinecz]

i beat him.. and when im done... he will like women..

[bokes15]

I'd take him to a strip club, get a woman to do a naked lapdance on him and then his internal lie detector will prove to me whether he liked it or not when she gets up.

[mid80sjordan]

i would say "you *****!" then stab him right through the heart with a stingray. with a bible beside him, of course, cause lord knows jebus don't like them gays

[MadeFromDust]

I would place him in the Crippler Crossface until everything is natural again.

[rknine15]

un-gay him.
:roll: :roll:


well i would show him what a girl looks like and if he gets a boner ill tell him he's not gay :hammerhead:

[Richie2k6]

I'd tell him to GTFO and disown that mofo.































Nah, I'd just be very disappointed and shocked. Hard to accept.

[Day La Ghetto]

Just ask Randy's dad.
:roll:

[mid80sjordan]

a lot of people would be shi.tty parents. no wonder the world is so fuc.ked

[ALBballer]

I really don't know. Ideally I like to think that as long as my kids are healthy almost everything after that is not that big of a deal. But it would be tough and I think a lot of it would depend on his age. If he were 12 or so, I would probably get him a prostitute.......

[L.Kizzle]

I'll whip it out of his ass. I have no problem with gays, but NO son of mine is going to be a pokemon.

http://apparelaccessory.fullpackage.org/picture/genuine-leather-belt-l0507001.jpg

[lemondude]

I'll give him 2000 dollars worth of stripers, pros, and wat ever else avalable

[Day La Ghetto]

I'd try and change him, if that doesn't work, see ya!

[Richie2k6]

I'll whip it out of his ass. I have no problem with gays, but NO son of mine is going to be a pokemon.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[AtticusPigeon11]

I'd be extremely pissed at Gaia, but I'd try to help him out in following his dreams or what-not.

[kshutts1]

What's with old threads being bumped up today?

[AtticusPigeon11]

What's with old threads being bumped up today?

Don't have any revolutionary ideas in mind, so I'm just trying to continue discussion with some fresh fingers, that's all.

[KoolKat]

Gay son > Straight son.

Even if you don't like gays, it's still your son people :cheers:

[Smokee]

Really depends. If he were a flaming homo then i'd have to disown him. If he acted like a dude but was just gay, i'd probably smack him around some, and get over it after a few years :confusedshrug:

[phoenix18]

What son?

[AmoebaD]

i think i would make him bang every gay man in the state where we live. try to bang the gay out of him. if he likes it, let it be. but i would gather up some scary, mean spirited gays. not these cute boy band type gays.

if he is still gay after that, he has earned his homosexuality. it is ok to be gay, but you must be tough. i'll take a tough gay son over a weak straight son any day.

[bdreason]

It depends on how old he is.

[White Chocolate]

Some of the people here are going to make great parents. :rolleyes:

[GOBB]

Put him on craigslist.

[plat1numX]

i would have another kid and call it a day

[rufuspaul]

I'd ask him: "Does this shirt go with these pants?"

[rufuspaul]

Really depends. If he were a flaming homo then i'd have to disown him. If he acted like a dude but was just gay, i'd probably smack him around some, and get over it after a few years :confusedshrug:

*facepalm* :rolleyes:

[White Chocolate]

Judging by some of the comments, it wouldn't surprise me if we had a few closet homosexuals. Don't they say some of the biggest homophobes are homosexuals themselves? :confusedshrug:

[AmoebaD]

Judging by some of the comments, it wouldn't surprise me if we had a few closet homosexuals. Don't they say some of the biggest homophobes are homosexuals themselves? :confusedshrug:

is that delonte in your avatar? i can't really tell.

oops, jason williams i presume.

[Smokee]

*facepalm* :rolleyes:


i'd smack you around too just to kill time

[rufuspaul]

i'd smack you around too just to kill time

Don't get me all hot and bothered if you don't mean it big boy.

[White Chocolate]

is that delonte in your avatar? i can't really tell.

oops, jason williams i presume.


Delonte West turned white. :oldlol:

[phoenix18]

Judging by some of the comments, it wouldn't surprise me if we had a few closet homosexuals. Don't they say some of the biggest homophobes are homosexuals themselves? :confusedshrug:
Hey just because my man parts happen to fall into another man's mouth doesnt mean anything at all.

[rufuspaul]

Hey just because my man parts happen to fall into another man's mouth doesnt mean anything at all.

:lol

Seriously having a gay man in the family could come in handy. You'd never have to hire a decorator and your wife would have someone to go antique shopping with so you can stay home and watch the game.

[AmoebaD]

Delonte West turned white. :oldlol:

yeah, once i put the username with the pic it made sense. but first glance i thought it was delonte.

[MarloStanfield]

i'd embrace him the same way i'd embrace him if he were straight.

[AmoebaD]

i'd embrace him the same way i'd embrace him if he were straight.

you have to say no homo.

[triangleoffense]

i'd embrace him the same way i'd embrace him if he were straight.

same. most of the people that say they would disown him are probably incredibly insecure about their own heterosexuality and most likely needs to get laid.

[picc84]

There's nothing you could do. You just have to take it. hopefully I never will have to find out.

[White Chocolate]

There's nothing you could do. You just have to take it. hopefully I never will have to find out.


You might want to rephrase that. :oldlol:

[MarloStanfield]

I wonder if you guys who say you'd disown your own child or you'd never want to find out about it, have ever even have spent time significant with a gay person. I'd be highly surprised if the answer is yes.

[Smokee]

I wonder if you guys who say you'd disown them or you'd never want to find out have ever even have spent time with a gay person. I'd be highly surprised.


u shouldn't take everything said on the internet as so serious

[AmoebaD]

i hope in all sincerity, that everyone would love their son. i was poking fun earlier. however, if that kid was gay AND indian, who knows what this place would do. :(

[rufuspaul]

I wonder if you guys who say you'd disown them or you'd never want to find out have ever even have spent time with a gay person. I'd be highly surprised.

I would be too. A good friend of mine from college is gay. I kind of suspected it but the subject never came up until he came out of the closet. It doesn't bother me a bit. He and his "partner" are great people and hang out with me and my wife all the time. My daughter refers to them as her uncles.:oldlol: It would definitely be a little bit more difficult to deal with if I had a son that came out of the closet, but disowning is not an option.

[AmoebaD]

I would be too. A good friend of mine from college is gay. I kind of suspected it but the subject never came up until he came out of the closet. It doesn't bother me a bit. He and his "partner" are great people and hang out with me and my wife all the time. My daughter refers to them as her uncles.:oldlol: It would definitely be a little bit more difficult to deal with if I had a son that came out of the closet, but disowning is not an option.

don't get infected.

[Smokee]

I would be too. A good friend of mine from college is gay. I kind of suspected it but the subject never came up until he came out of the closet. It doesn't bother me a bit. He and his "partner" are great people and hang out with me and my wife all the time. My daughter refers to them as her uncles.:oldlol: It would definitely be a little bit more difficult to deal with if I had a son that came out of the closet, but disowning is not an option.


you guys swap 'partners'? i wouldn't be surprised if so :ohwell:

[rufuspaul]

you guys swap 'partners'? i wouldn't be surprised if so :ohwell:

What a stupid immature question. These guys are no different than any of the other married couples we are friends with. We don't swap partners with them either.

It's like what Dennis Miller said a while back and I'm paraphrasing: "There's nothing that interests me more than my own sex life and there's nothing that interests me less than your sex life."

[simcjt]

i think i would make him bang every gay man in the state where we live. try to bang the gay out of him. if he likes it, let it be. but i would gather up some scary, mean spirited gays. not these cute boy band type gays.

if he is still gay after that, he has earned his homosexuality. it is ok to be gay, but you must be tough. i'll take a tough gay son over a weak straight son any day.
I know you said you were kidding but :roll:

[AmoebaD]

I know you said you were kidding but :roll:

its good parenting. come on. you know when you catch your kid smoking, you make him smoke every cig he has. it is just common sense.

[KoolKat]

its good parenting. come on. you know when you catch your kid smoking, you make him smoke every cig he has. it is just common sense.

So, if he's straight you'll make him bang every straight girl in the state ? Good luck with that.

[All Net]

:rolleyes: you would love him the same..why should it matter?

[OneMoreSucka]

:rolleyes: you would love him the same..why should it matter?
Seriously, I didn't realize there were so many ignorant, worthless human beings in here.

[Knicks101]

I'd say "Haha, You Gay". Then I'd give him a hug.

[picc84]

You might want to rephrase that. :oldlol:

You know whats funny, I was actually going to say no pun intended after that sentence but took it out thinking nobody would make that joke.

[goldenryan]

I'd say "Haha, You Gay". Then I'd give him a hug.
how did your dad take it when you told him?

[AmoebaD]

So, if he's straight you'll make him bang every straight girl in the state ? Good luck with that.

well gosh darnit, we will try koolkat. there is no harm in trying.

[Knicks101]

how did your dad take it when you told him?

:sleeping

Hop off

[Randy]

Seriously, I didn't realize there were so many ignorant, worthless human beings in here.
You have to realize that 95% of the morons on here have never met a single gay person, yet automatically think that every gay man wants to hit on and have sex with them even though they are ugly and covered in pimples. These kids have never even touched a real ****** yet they feel the need to both insult homosexuals, and assume they know what being a parent is like.

****** is seriously censored? What are we, 11?

[AtticusPigeon11]

I think the only issue for "intolerant" straights is the idea of not having a biological grandson/grandaughter.

[White Chocolate]

I think the only issue for "intolerant" straights is the idea of not having a biological grandson/grandaughter.


That's a big issue, but not the only one. A parent that has a gay son/daughter knows the discrimination their child will face in school/work. They know that life will be difficult because of their lifestyle. The biggest issues have absolutely nothing to do with future offspring.

[OneMoreSucka]

I think the only issue for "intolerant" straights is the idea of not having a biological grandson/grandaughter.
I don't think those people in here even thought that far ahead. I think they would just not like seeing their son dating a guy :ohwell: :confusedshrug: :rolleyes:

[BizzareRide]

I don't think those people in here even thought that far ahead. I think they would just not like seeing their son dating a guy :ohwell: :confusedshrug: :rolleyes:

Public perception also play a role.

[OneMoreSucka]

That's a big issue, but not the only one. A parent that has a gay son/daughter knows the discrimination their child will face in school/work. They know that life will be difficult because of their lifestyle. The biggest issues have absolutely nothing to do with future offspring.
Now, sure, even though it's changed dramatically over the years. But when we, who we will say are somewhere in our twenties, have kids, we won't know what it's like for gays growing up 15 years from now. I suspect it to be vastly different and for society to be much more accepting.

[AmoebaD]

I don't think those people in here even thought that far ahead. I think they would just not like seeing their son dating a guy :ohwell: :confusedshrug: :rolleyes:

ok, mr. no ethics.

[White Chocolate]

Now, sure, even though it's changed dramatically over the years. But when we, who we will say are somewhere in our twenties, have kids, we won't know what it's like for gays growing up 15 years from now. I suspect it to be vastly different and for society to be much more accepting.


Society is certainly much more accepting now and may continue to be a bit more accepting in the future. But I don't think we'll ever get to the point where it's completely accepted. Too many hateful people around.

[kentatm]

well he would be my son and I wouldnt give a damn.

[AmoebaD]

well he would be my son and I wouldnt give a damn.

is that keith van horn?

[kentatm]

is that keith van horn?

:lol

yep.

I think I must be one of the very few people that have him as their favorite player.

[AmoebaD]

:lol

yep.

I think I must be one of the very few people that have him as their favorite player.

im praying, by god, that you have the links to the hilarious nike commercials he used to have. i've searched, couldn't find a good link. you know the ones, he is doing chest passes and bounce passes and giving advice to his teammates. like a 70's sitcom or something. i want to see those again.

[kentatm]

NO! I cant ever find them. I really wish I could.

[beasly15]

if i found out my son was gay, i would set my alarm clock to 3:00 AM everyday to remind me to wake up and go beat my son and then go back to sleep.

nah, i would just tell him "it's okay, f@gget, don't worry about it.." :confusedshrug:

[Juggernaut_V2.0]

By Jesus, there are a while pile of ignorant, uneducated, narrow minded, socially unaware, insecure and uniformed people on this board. Some of ye's seriously need to take your heads outta your arses (pun intended!).

I myself am a '***'. I actually mentioned it in one of my first posts on here and nobody picked up on it. I was actually going to comment about the amount the term gay is used in here. Nearly everything that isn't butch and manly is referred to as being gay or homo. But it doesn't bother me in the slightest so I never bothered saying anything.

A few things to clear up here. For a start, you don't CHOOSE to be gay. Jesus, think about it, for the majority of gays, especially the camp ones, it would make their life far more easier if they were straight. That way they wouldn't have to face so much prejudice and abuse from society. Growing up, especially in your teens, your hormones are all over the show and fair enough, some people might just be confused and may snap out of it and turn out to be straight, but the majority of people stay the same. I've known since I was about 9 or 10 that I was gay. Bottom line is, if it's in your blood, it's in your blood. I've seen shows on TV and read in newspapers and magazines about people who go away for months and join rehab groups to try and change themselves or choose a life of celibacy just so that nobody finds out about their real sexuality, and it's a shame that these people have to do that, especially in todays society.

Over in here in Ireland everyone is pretty much open minded and only the real hardcore religious types are the people that frown upon homosexuality. We've moved on with the times and aren't caught up in the past. Over here people have learned to form their own opinions. I'm 25 in a few weeks time. I came out to my parents when I was 20. They laughed and said we're your parents, we knew already. I was all aye, I kind of thought that and that was it. Naturally, their only concern was for my wellbeing. They were afraid that I might get a beating when I was out one night and end up 6 feet under. What they didn't realise was that it's not like that anymore. Well, at least not here anyway. They grew up in the 70's/80's, when it was illegal to be gay. When people were locked up for it. I had a good chat with them and reassured them about everything.

As I said, i'm nearly 25, and i've NEVER been abused or bullied because of my sexuality. Same can't be said for other boys though. I've seen ones absolutley tortured during their school years, tortured to the point where they ended up dropping out of school, getting no grades and have ended up without decent jobs and up to their eyes in debt because they've turned to drink and drugs to try and block out the reality of it all. Some even went as far as taking their own lives, because they felt that they couldn't open up to anybody about their situation. I did what I could to stop it. Fcuk, I can look after myself. I've actually been told by several people that I can be quite imtimidating. I was the one in school that was constantly jumping in to stick up for for the underdog. Jesus, it's even laughable to a degree now because some of the bullies have actually turned out to be gay themselves! But at the time they just ran with the mob to cover up for themselves. They were only young but they've wised up now. So next time any of ye feel like making a smart gay jibe, just think about the after effects and the long term effects that you may be leaving on somebody. I'm one of the lucky ones. Others aren't so fortunate.

[beasted86]

I don't care what anyone says, being gay is a genetic defect of the brain. It's NOT normal. Whether it's girls or guys, I feel the same way. Science has proven it's not primarily a developmental issue, it's biological.

I'm okay with gay guys doing their own thing... we'll be fine if you keep it away from me (IE: don't do dumb sh*t like joke or flirt if I'm a worker in a store just because it's my job to be polite and give customer service). Way I look at it is more girls for me.

[BULLZ]

shove him back in my wife's womb.

[halffttime]

he's my son, so i'll still love him. don't mind having the other *** over.. just don't start being affectionate with each other around me tho.. i'll shove a carrot up your ass..

[Juggernaut_V2.0]

I don't care what anyone says, being gay is a genetic defect of the brain. It's NOT normal. Whether it's girls or guys, I feel the same way. Science has proven it's not primarily a developmental issue, it's biological.

I'm okay with gay guys doing their own thing... we'll be fine if you keep it away from me (IE: don't do dumb sh*t like joke or flirt if I'm a worker in a store just because it's my job to be polite and give customer service). Way I look at it is more girls for me.

a/s/l?

[krazy19]

I don't care what anyone says, being gay is a genetic defect of the brain. It's NOT normal. Whether it's girls or guys, I feel the same way. Science has proven it's not primarily a developmental issue, it's biological.

I'm okay with gay guys doing their own thing... we'll be fine if you keep it away from me (IE: don't do dumb sh*t like joke or flirt if I'm a worker in a store just because it's my job to be polite and give customer service). Way I look at it is more girls for me.

I wonder how did your parents took the news?

[beasted86]

he's my son, so i'll still love him. don't mind having the other *** over.. just don't start being affectionate with each other around me tho.. i'll shove a carrot up your ass..
Is that's supposed to be a good or bad thing? :lol

But seriously in regards to the OP question, what can you do? Unlike women who I think sometimes let their emotional attachments get the best of them... normally guys don't choose to be gay.

The best you can do is either decide to be a major part in his life, or choose to be a minor part in his life. But you'll probably end up missing alot more good than the bad if you choose th later.

[beasted86]

I wonder how did your parents took the news?
phonics?

[Juggernaut_V2.0]

See as long as the perosn in question is happy and comfortable with themselves, then fcuk what anybody else thinks. That is THEIR problem, and if they don't like it they can go take a hike for all I care.

[beasted86]

a/s/l?
:oldlol: .. I'm not talking regular stuff... I'm talking gay flavored jokes & real real flirting.

I'm a proffesional, and I live in Miami, I deal with gay people (both women and men) on the regular. Like I said only when they take it too far is when I get annoyed. For ex: when I worked in a restaurant as a cook there was a waiter, it was right next to a Cafe Iguana so we got customers of all types. This gay guy he was serving kept making inquisitive questions about his personal life... jokes... etc.. Then when he was collecting his plates to bring him more drinks, he grabbed his hand and made some sort of comment. The guy nearlly flipped off on the manager and said he's not going to continue, and I agreed 100%.

This type of story would apply to both men and women, because there are always going to be over pushy or comfortable people who get attracted etc... but this is the type of thing I'm talking about.

When I'm trying to be a normal professional don't mistake regular courtesy for friendliness or interest and we'll be okay. If gay guys want to kiss or hold hands in public, what do I care. I do my own thing and avoid those types of club scenes etc.. Just don't try to involve me or invade my space.

[Juggernaut_V2.0]

:oldlol: .. I'm not talking regular stuff... I'm talking gay flavored jokes & real real flirting.

I'm a proffesional, and I live in Miami, I deal with gay people (both women and men) on the regular. Like I said only when they take it too far is when I get annoyed. For ex: when I worked in a restaurant as a cook there was a waiter, it was right next to a Cafe Iguana so we got customers of all types. This gay guy he was serving kept making inquisitive questions about his personal life... jokes... etc.. Then when he was collecting his plates to bring him more drinks, he grabbed his hand and made some sort of comment. The guy nearlly flipped off on the manager and said he's not going to continue, and I agreed 100%.

This type of story would apply to both men and women, because there are always going to be over pushy or comfortable people who get attracted etc... but this is the type of thing I'm talking about.

When I'm trying to be a normal professional don't mistake regular courtesy for friendliness or interest and we'll be okay. If gay guys want to kiss or hold hands in public, what do I care. I do my own thing and avoid those types of club scenes etc.. Just don't try to involve me or invade my space.

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Glad ye seen the funny side to that! Lol.

But I see exactly where you're coming from. I don't live for the gay club scene and very rarely venture into it. But one night I was in the toilets having a slash and some fella grabbed my ass. I turned round and was all listen, and fcuking listen good, next time you put your hand anywhere near my body you'll be wearing that fcuking wall round your neck. He mumbled something under his breath and battered on about his business. Just because i'm a gay lad in a gay club does not mean that he has the right to grab me, or anybody else for that matter. If it were a regular club and some fella grabbed a girls backside then he would more than likely be chucked out.

But sure that's the gay scene for ye. Full of the stereotypical gay fella's and it actually annoys me when people make a sweeping generalisation that ALL gay fellas are the same cos we're not.

[IcanzIIravor]

I'd shrug. I've been around plenty of gay people and they are just like everyone else.

[shlver]

I would go :wtf: , then:cry: , then :( ,then:rant , then:confusedshrug: . In that order.

[v-unit]

http://13.media.tumblr.com/49QI3kEvMn52klonVyXF09Uuo1_500.png

[niko]

First i'd ask him if he was sure and not just confused. I was a teacher, and sometimes teens are confused about their sexual idenities. I had a girl who was kind of masculine, and had a friend who was gay and liked her and she kind of assumed she was gay. She then discovered a boy who liked her, and that was it for the gayness. Exploration at that age is not abnormal. A bad experience also can push you that way.

And if he turned out to be gay, i'd deal with it. Anyone else who says otherwise is kidding themself. There is relly not much else you can do.

[HighFlyer23]

phuck this gay thread

[takeittothehoop]

http://www.semissourian.com/photos/10/21/04/1021041-L.jpg

Classic. :cheers:

[Juggernaut_V2.0]

Classic. :cheers:

LMFAO!! :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

If only you knew what your username meant over here :oldlol:

[MarloStanfield]

I don't care what anyone says, being gay is a genetic defect of the brain. It's NOT normal. Whether it's girls or guys, I feel the same way. Science has proven it's not primarily a developmental issue, it's biological.
This sh*t is disgusting and makes me feel sick ^

[RaininThrees]

what would you say if your son came up to you and said, "daddy, i like other men"?

the right thing to do would be accept him for who he was


sorry this was meant for the off court forum mods feel free to move it.

I'd deal with it.

[beasted86]

This sh*t is disgusting and makes me feel sick ^
Good. :cheers:

[Don Imus]

Spin:

Would you rather have a gay son or a daughter that's a whore?

[MeloMike]

I am against homosexuality, so it would definitely be tough to accept at first, BUT if that's how the kid wants to have his life go, then I would be accepting of it. You have to ask him the question "Are you sure about this? Is this what you really want?"

I'm sure he'd get picked on alot in school, so I'd be there to support my son. Family > everything regardless.

[White Chocolate]

I don't care what anyone says, being gay is a genetic defect of the brain. It's NOT normal. Whether it's girls or guys, I feel the same way. Science has proven it's not primarily a developmental issue, it's biological.


Then science should also have a cure for it, if we're going by that logic.

[Juggernaut_V2.0]

If there was a cure I wouldn't take it. I'm quite happy the way I am. I've a brilliant circle of family and friends and 2 good jobs. I love life and love being me. I wouldn't change it for anything.

[MarloStanfield]

If there was a cure I wouldn't take it. I'm quite happy the way I am. I've a brilliant circle of family and friends and 2 good jobs. I love life and love being me. I wouldn't change it for anything.
I am glad to hear that :)

[Dasher]

I would pressure him to change his name. Nino Brown... is not a gay man's name. He would have to be named something like Fabian, Larry, or Otis. If he does that, I may bring myself to accept him. There will be a great deal of disapointment because I will feel as if I have failed him.

[sirkeelma]

i will hang him upside down.

[White Chocolate]

Just out of curiousity, how many posters here are actually parents?

[nbastatus]

http://www.semissourian.com/photos/10/21/04/1021041-L.jpg
:roll: :roll:

[Mista Kool]

I wouldn't go as far as to kill the gay little freak, but I would disown him and see what legal action could be taken in regards to having his last name changed to something other than my own.

[shlver]

I wouldn't go as far as to kill the gay little freak, but I would disown him and see what legal action could be taken in regards to having his last name changed to something other than my own.
This.

[MarloStanfield]

I wouldn't go as far as to kill the gay little freak, but I would disown him and see what legal action could be taken in regards to having his last name changed to something other than my own.
starface ^^

[1987_Lakers]

I'm disappointed with most of the replies, People who wouldn't accept their son for being gay are ignorant pieces of **** who still live in the 20th century.

[White Chocolate]

I'm disappointed with most of the replies, People who wouldn't accept their son for being gay are ignorant pieces of **** who still live in the 20th century.


I bet a good amount of replies are simply 15 year olds wanting to sound cool and rip gay people. For people that really are parents, I doubt all that many would disown their kids and beat the "gay freaks" as they call them.

[IcanzIIravor]

I bet a good amount of replies are simply 15 year olds wanting to sound cool and rip gay people. For people that really are parents, I doubt all that many would disown their kids and beat the "gay freaks" as they call them.

That's my guess. A number just trying to follow the crowd.

[Randy]

This.

WWJDD? Disown his son, apparently. How lovingly Christian of you.

[shlver]

WWJDD? Disown his son, apparently. How lovingly Christian of you.
He's a sinner. Jesus would not approve.

[White Chocolate]

He's a sinner. Jesus would not approve.


I think we've all done sh!t Jesus wouldn't approve of. Gays aren't that way by choice.

[IcanzIIravor]

He's a sinner. Jesus would not approve.

Can you tell us how many people Jesus tossed aside? You think Jesus would approve of your attitude in this situation?

[shlver]

Let's not turn this into a religious debate.

[Styles p]

ignore him and drink myself to death.

[Randy]

He's a sinner. Jesus would not approve.

I just checked the ten commandments. Didn't see "Don't Be Gay" anywhere. Good call on being a bigot and turning your back on your own children, e-props to you. Who reps you?! Honestly.

[shlver]

I just checked the ten commandments. Didn't see "Don't Be Gay" anywhere. Good call on being a bigot and turning your back on your own children, e-props to you. Who reps you?! Honestly.
Read the whole Bible and come back to me. Idiot..

[rufuspaul]

He's a sinner. Jesus would not approve.

Aren't we all sinners? Didn't Jesus say something about casting the first stone?

I'm Catholic and the one thing that really irks me about Vatican dogma is the anti-gay sh*t. It's pure ignorance that has no place in Christianity imo. But it's there and some people are going to be fanatic about it. I'm sure it's the same in Judaism and Islam too. To me it is a far greater sin to disown your own child.

[beasted86]

Aren't we all sinners? Didn't Jesus say something about casting the first stone?

I'm Catholic and the one thing that really irks me about Vatican dogma is the anti-gay sh*t. It's pure ignorance that has no place in Christianity imo. But it's there and some people are going to be fanatic about it. I'm sure it's the same in Judaism and Islam too. To me it is a far greater sin to disown your own child.
Wait... just because one acknowledges and accepts his son is gay and chooses to be in his life still, does not mean he has to approve of it.

Homosexuality is never going to be something approved or condoned religiously as it should be. As I started my comment a few pages back with... being gay is not something normal nor should be accepted as normal like many gay people are pushing for. People being okay with it and acknowledging everyone has a right to their own freedom and happiness does not make it this 'normal part of nature'. It is a biological flaw resulting from a chromosomal, hormonal, or plain psychological disorder. Two species of the same sex cannot reproduce which basically nullifies our existance if anyone wants to accept it as a normal part of nature.

This is just my opinion on it

[rufuspaul]

Wait... just because one acknowledges and accepts his son is gay and chooses to be in his life still, does not mean he has to approve of it.

Homosexuality is never going to be something approved or condoned religiously as it should be. As I started my comment a few pages back with... being gay is not something normal nor should be accepted as normal like many gay people are pushing for. People being okay with it and acknowledging everyone has a right to their own freedom and happiness does not make it this 'normal part of nature'. It is a biological flaw resulting from a chromosomal, hormonal, or plain psychological disorder. Two species of the same sex cannot reproduce which basically nullifies our existance if anyone wants to accept it as a normal part of nature.

This is just my opinion on it

Well at least your opinion doesn't involve hate or religious zealotry. Repped.

[Dizzle-2k7]

Id love him, but no doubt Id probably cry about it.. imagine never getting to give your son that fatherly advice on talking to girls, dates, sex, etc.. maannn

[lazerface]

He's a sinner. Jesus would not approve.

**** jesus.

[Lamar Doom]

I'd tell him he was a nasty motherf*cker and scold him if he ever went for any of those super fruity guys that embarrass the regular-people gays. Then I'd tell his mom it was her fault and go back about my life continuing to love him like I did before.


Bottom line, I won't pretend I wouldn't be a little disappointed, part of the fun of having a boy is getting to relate to them (not that my dad and i talk about p*ssy a lot or anything) and that would certainly be something I couldn't relate to but it's your son. Even if you don't choose to have gay/lesbian friends in your life how are you going to feel any different about someone you love because they f*ck differently than you? one of the craziest/sickest things i've ever heard of, rejecting your own child for some who-cares sh*t like that?
please. get over yourself.

[Knicks101]

Id love him, but no doubt Id probably cry about it.. imagine never getting to give your son that fatherly advice on talking to girls, dates, sex, etc.. maannn

You can have more than one son.

[Lamar Doom]

Read the whole Bible and come back to me. Idiot..


A. you haven't read the whole bible

B. you couldn't tell us what verses in the bible talk about the evil, abandon-your-child sin that homosexuality is without looking them up.

C. there are so many parts of the bible that modern christianity ignores, dismisses, edits/updates, or calls metaphor (because you'd be an idiot to take it literally and they can't have that)-- it's hilarious to me to watch the dumb sh*ts pick and choose what's "sacred altruism".

D. grow up boy

[Lamar Doom]

You can have more than one son.

if you have one gay son they'll all be gay, it's in the bible. it means there's something wrong with your wife's ******. Mark 15:4

[Knicks101]

if you have one gay son they'll all be gay, it's in the bible. it means there's something wrong with your wife's ******. Mark 15:4

Well that settles it, never mind.

[niko]

I would pressure him to change his name. Nino Brown... is not a gay man's name. He would have to be named something like Fabian, Larry, or Otis. If he does that, I may bring myself to accept him. There will be a great deal of disapointment because I will feel as if I have failed him.
It's definitely not a gay name. It's the name of a powerful crime lord and crack dealer. :hammerhead: (It's a movie reference, i'm not insulting your kid!)

[Juggernaut_V2.0]

By Jesus, there are a while pile of ignorant, uneducated, narrow minded, socially unaware, insecure and uniformed people on this board. Some of ye's seriously need to take your heads outta your arses (pun intended!).

I myself am a '***'. I actually mentioned it in one of my first posts on here and nobody picked up on it. I was actually going to comment about the amount the term gay is used in here. Nearly everything that isn't butch and manly is referred to as being gay or homo. But it doesn't bother me in the slightest so I never bothered saying anything.

A few things to clear up here. For a start, you don't CHOOSE to be gay. Jesus, think about it, for the majority of gays, especially the camp ones, it would make their life far more easier if they were straight. That way they wouldn't have to face so much prejudice and abuse from society. Growing up, especially in your teens, your hormones are all over the show and fair enough, some people might just be confused and may snap out of it and turn out to be straight, but the majority of people stay the same. I've known since I was about 9 or 10 that I was gay. Bottom line is, if it's in your blood, it's in your blood. I've seen shows on TV and read in newspapers and magazines about people who go away for months and join rehab groups to try and change themselves or choose a life of celibacy just so that nobody finds out about their real sexuality, and it's a shame that these people have to do that, especially in todays society.

Over in here in Ireland everyone is pretty much open minded and only the real hardcore religious types are the people that frown upon homosexuality. We've moved on with the times and aren't caught up in the past. Over here people have learned to form their own opinions. I'm 25 in a few weeks time. I came out to my parents when I was 20. They laughed and said we're your parents, we knew already. I was all aye, I kind of thought that and that was it. Naturally, their only concern was for my wellbeing. They were afraid that I might get a beating when I was out one night and end up 6 feet under. What they didn't realise was that it's not like that anymore. Well, at least not here anyway. They grew up in the 70's/80's, when it was illegal to be gay. When people were locked up for it. I had a good chat with them and reassured them about everything.

As I said, i'm nearly 25, and i've NEVER been abused or bullied because of my sexuality. Same can't be said for other boys though. I've seen ones absolutley tortured during their school years, tortured to the point where they ended up dropping out of school, getting no grades and have ended up without decent jobs and up to their eyes in debt because they've turned to drink and drugs to try and block out the reality of it all. Some even went as far as taking their own lives, because they felt that they couldn't open up to anybody about their situation. I did what I could to stop it. Fcuk, I can look after myself. I've actually been told by several people that I can be quite imtimidating. I was the one in school that was constantly jumping in to stick up for for the underdog. Jesus, it's even laughable to a degree now because some of the bullies have actually turned out to be gay themselves! But at the time they just ran with the mob to cover up for themselves. They were only young but they've wised up now. So next time any of ye feel like making a smart gay jibe, just think about the after effects and the long term effects that you may be leaving on somebody. I'm one of the lucky ones. Others aren't so fortunate.

And now that we're on to the religious side of things i'd like to add to this earlier post.

In my opinion people depend far too much on their religious views. For a start, look at the many different religions there are on this planet, each believing that their God is the only God, etc, etc. And look at the religious extremists. They're all off their fcuking rockers!

Anyway, I was at a Gay Pride festival a few months ago in Belfast. i think it's the equivalent to your Mardi Gras or something (although ours isn't that 'out there'...). As the parade was moving around the town we passed a big group of Christians, who were all standing with banners and signs telling us we're going to hell and that we can be saved if we turn to Jesus. They were singing into microphones some songs and as we walked past, they all turned their backs to us. I found this highly amusing tbh. Then they were scattered throughout the city centre and one approached me and was all, you can be reborn. Jesus can save you. As I smiled and walked on she shouted i'll pray for you. I turned on my heel and was all you'll what? Listen love, you take yourself home and you pray for yourself, cos believe me, you need it more than what I do!

I've grown up in Northern Ireland through the troubles. I don't know if any of you know or have heard about the whole Catholic/Protestant conflict that has been ongoing over here for decades. The hunger strikes, Bloody Sunday, The annual orangemen parades. It's not as bad now with since the Good Friday agreement was put into action but there are still a few breakaway groups like the R.I.R.A that feel that Ireland should be 1 single, free country. The loss of lives on both sides, the years of violence and the constant divide between Cathlolics and Protestants...all down to religious differences. This, along with them extreme religious suicide bombers etc, in my mind leave me with the thought that religion has A LOT to answer for.

[Lamar Doom]

i said the last thing on the last page

why do you and amoebad have the same avatar? are you the same person?

[T.O.RAPS]

why do you and amoebad have the same avatar? are you the same person?

they all the schizo j money, smh....

[Mista Kool]

And now that we're on to the religious side of things i'd like to add to this earlier post.

In my opinion people depend far too much on their religious views. For a start, look at the many different religions there are on this planet, each believing that their God is the only God, etc, etc. And look at the religious extremists. They're all off their fcuking rockers!

Anyway, I was at a Gay Pride festival a few months ago in Belfast. i think it's the equivalent to your Mardi Gras or something (although ours isn't that 'out there'...). As the parade was moving around the town we passed a big group of Christians, who were all standing with banners and signs telling us we're going to hell and that we can be saved if we turn to Jesus. They were singing into microphones some songs and as we walked past, they all turned their backs to us. I found this highly amusing tbh. Then they were scattered throughout the city centre and one approached me and was all, you can be reborn. Jesus can save you. As I smiled and walked on she shouted i'll pray for you. I turned on my heel and was all you'll what? Listen love, you take yourself home and you pray for yourself, cos believe me, you need it more than what I do!

I've grown up in Northern Ireland through the troubles. I don't know if any of you know or have heard about the whole Catholic/Protestant conflict that has been ongoing over here for decades. The hunger strikes, Bloody Sunday, The annual orangemen parades. It's not as bad now with since the Good Friday agreement was put into action but there are still a few breakaway groups like the R.I.R.A that feel that Ireland should be 1 single, free country. The loss of lives on both sides, the years of violence and the constant divide between Cathlolics and Protestants...all down to religious differences. This, along with them extreme religious suicide bombers etc, in my mind leave me with the thought that religion has A LOT to answer for.

Sounds to me like you're going through the "everything's religion's fault!" phase that nearly every closed-minded bigot goes through.

[rufuspaul]

Sounds to me like you're going through the "everything's religion's fault!" phase that nearly every closed-minded bigot goes through.

I'm a closed-minded bigot and I somehow missed this phase. :confusedshrug:

[Randy]

Read the whole Bible and come back to me. Idiot..

When you start stoning people to death who work on Sundays and women who aren't virgins, I'll start considering being gay a sin. Until then, you are nothing more than a hypocrite.

[beasted86]

When you start stoning people to death who work on Sundays and women who aren't virgins, I'll start considering being gay a sin. Until then, you are nothing more than a hypocrite.
Are you religious at all?

I somehow envision this coming from a non-believer or an athiest. Basically you are insinuating all sins share the same penalty or the same severity. Firstly, Sunday is not the traditional Sabbath, but regardless as long as you observe some form of Sabbath whichever day you've decided upon, so anyone can work as they wish. Secondly, going by your logic a murderer would share the same moral standing as a thief.

A women or man who has sex out of marriage sinned every time she had sex until she got married, a person who lives a homosexual life sinned their whole life. Do you see a difference?

[Lamar Doom]

Are you religious at all?

I somehow envision this coming from a non-believer or an athiest. Basically you are insinuating all sins share the same penalty or the same severity. Firstly, Sunday is not the traditional Sabbath, but regardless as long as you observe some form of Sabbath whichever day you've decided upon, so anyone can work as they wish. Secondly, going by your logic a murderer would share the same moral standing as a thief.



his point is that not everything in the bible is followed at face value. deciding that the parts about "laying with other men" are the clear cut word of god when you're ignoring numuerous other lessons/convictions is hypocritical.




A women or man who has sex out of marriage sinned every time she had sex until she got married, a person who lives a homosexual life sinned their whole life. Do you see a difference?


because gays f*ck so much? did you just come from sunday school with that sh*t? (does that make wednesday your sabbath?)

[JtotheIzzo]

because gays f*ck so much? did you just come from sunday school with that sh*t? (does that make wednesday your sabbath?)


Most 'bottoms' can only f*ck once per week as they need time to let their ass heal.

To answer the title question, there is nothing you can do, only a self-righteous ********* would try and alter the kid's viewpoint.

[White Chocolate]

Most 'bottoms' can only f*ck once per week as they need time to let their ass heal.

To answer the title question, there is nothing you can do, only a self-righteous ********* would try and alter the kid's viewpoint.


Most of the posters here are self-righteous a$$holes.

[beasted86]

Most 'bottoms' can only f*ck once per week as they need time to let their ass heal.


I don't even want to know how the f**k you have this info :oldlol:

[Dasher]

It's definitely not a gay name. It's the name of a powerful crime lord and crack dealer. :hammerhead: (It's a movie reference, i'm not insulting your kid!)I know that. That's why I said my son named Nino Brown would have to change his name. Nino Brown is not a name befitting a game man.

[beasted86]

his point is that not everything in the bible is followed at face value. deciding that the parts about "laying with other men" are the clear cut word of god when you're ignoring numuerous other lessons/convictions is hypocritical.





because gays f*ck so much? did you just come from sunday school with that sh*t? (does that make wednesday your sabbath?)
Are you serious? You are comparing from when a person starts having sex until they are married to when a gay person starts having sex until they die. :oldlol:

And my comment about the Sabbath was more in regards to some view points on whether it's Saturday or Sunday. Some people observe the traditional 7th day, and some observe the traditional day Jesus was risen. But I guess to answer your vague question, what I believe is as long as you observe a sabbath weekly (whatever day you choose), I personally believe God would view that as a positive tradition rather than more negatively because it was done on a specific day. The calendar has been changed so many times who really even knows if Sunday is really Sunday. But as I said, that's my personal belief.

[Lamar Doom]

Are you serious? You are comparing from when a person starts having sex until they are married to when a gay person starts having sex until they die. :oldlol:




i don't understand what you just typed. I do know that the sex-before-marriage conviction is a laugh, in my eyes and god's and the only difference between two straight people f*cking and two gay people f*cking is that one grosses me out to think about. but of course you're entitled to your opinion. you are either young, small town sheltered, or stupid, but you're entitled to your opinion.

[MarloStanfield]

i don't understand what you just typed. I do know that the sex-before-marriage conviction is a laugh, in my eyes and god's and the only difference between two straight people f*cking and two gay people f*cking is that one grosses me out to think about. but of course you're entitled to your opinion. you are either young, small town sheltered, or stupid, but you're entitled to your opinion.
all of the above most likely.

[beasted86]

i don't understand what you just typed. I do know that the sex-before-marriage conviction is a laugh, in my eyes and god's and the only difference between two straight people f*cking and two gay people f*cking is that one grosses me out to think about. but of course you're entitled to your opinion. you are either young, small town sheltered, or stupid, but you're entitled to your opinion.
The thing is for 1, I don't even know what gods you worship. I worship one God, and the Bible I read and follow to the best of my ability states He told us to be fruitful and multiple. So being a homosexual goes completely the opposite of that.

Now in regards to your comment above, even if you do view both sins as equal, as I was trying to point out, once the straight person gets married from that point onward they are no longer sinning when having sex with their spouse. Since gay people cannot be married, they are actually committing two sins... both lying with another of the same sex, and having sex out of marriage, and they will be doing so for the rest of their lives as they can never be married.

And finally in regards to your last comment, I was born in Brooklyn, and been living in Miami for 20+ years. I've been brought up in two of the most diverse environments in the US. I'm 25, so not so young, and am sure of my faith and what I believe.

[MarloStanfield]

The thing is for 1, I don't even know what gods you worship. I worship one God, and the Bible I read and follow to the best of my ability states He told us to be fruitful and multiple. So being a homosexual goes completely the opposite of that.

Now in regards to your comment above, even if you do view both sins as equal, as I was trying to point out, once the straight person gets married from that point onward they are no longer sinning when having sex with their spouse. Since gay people cannot be married, they are actually committing two sins... both lying with another of the same sex, and having sex out of marriage, and they will be doing so for the rest of their lives as they can never be married.

And finally in regards to your last comment, I was born in Brooklyn, and been living in Miami for 20+ years. I've been brought up in two of the most diverse environments in the US. I'm 25, so not so young, and am sure of my faith and what I believe.
http://images.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/330/54f/33054fb0-6646-4c89-99a4-909006674ecc

[Lamar Doom]

but of course you're entitled to your opinion. you are either young, small town sheltered, or stupid, but you're entitled to your opinion.



And finally in regards to your last comment, I was born in Brooklyn, and been living in Miami for 20+ years. I've been brought up in two of the most diverse environments in the US. I'm 25, so not so young, and am sure of my faith and what I believe.

so... stupid it is then.
.

[Lamar Doom]

The thing is for 1, I don't even know what gods you worship. I worship one God, and the Bible I read and follow to the best of my ability states He told us to be fruitful and multiple. So being a homosexual goes completely the opposite of that.

I'm straight but i don't want to have kids, am I in trouble? 5% of the population not being able to procreate (with each other, they still have the seed and egg if they choose to make babies outside their partnerships) will never affect growth of humanity.



Now in regards to your comment above, even if you do view both sins as equal, as I was trying to point out, once the straight person gets married from that point onward they are no longer sinning when having sex with their spouse. Since gay people cannot be married, they are actually committing two sins... both lying with another of the same sex, and having sex out of marriage, and they will be doing so for the rest of their lives as they can never be married.


So if gay people get married they're only breaking the "lying with another of the same sex" sin rule? (snickers)

I'm sorry man, I know I'm being aggressive and insulting towards you but I don't understand how a 25 year old man in 2009 can have such archaic views and put it on god. You really think the omnipotent god of love and creation thinks homosexuality is evil? That's what your heart tells you?

[shlver]

A. you haven't read the whole bible
How do you know? Shut up if you don't know if I've read the Bible or not. I've read it about 5 times. Who cares if you don't believe me?
What an idiot. Worst post from you I've ever seen.

B. you couldn't tell us what verses in the bible talk about the evil, abandon-your-child sin that homosexuality is without looking them up.
I can't draw specific verses from memory but I can cite what books and chapters it is in. Don't assume anything.

C. there are so many parts of the bible that modern christianity ignores, dismisses, edits/updates, or calls metaphor (because you'd be an idiot to take it literally and they can't have that)-- it's hilarious to me to watch the dumb sh*ts pick and choose what's "sacred altruism".
So? Did I say anything about that? I said homosexuality is a sin and the Bible backs me up on it.

D. Grow up boy.
You should act more your age. Get the **** out with your assumptions..

[shlver]

I'm straight but i don't want to have kids, am I in trouble? 5% of the population not being able to procreate (with each other, they still have the seed and egg if they choose to make babies outside their partnerships) will never affect growth of humanity.



So if gay people get married they're only breaking the "lying with another of the same sex" sin rule? (snickers)

I'm sorry man, I know I'm being aggressive and insulting towards you but I don't understand how a 25 year old man in 2009 can have such archaic views and put it on god. You really think the omnipotent god of love and creation thinks homosexuality is evil? That's what your heart tells you?
Yes.

[shlver]

his point is that not everything in the bible is followed at face value. deciding that the parts about "laying with other men" are the clear cut word of god when you're ignoring numuerous other lessons/convictions is hypocritical.





because gays f*ck so much? did you just come from sunday school with that sh*t? (does that make wednesday your sabbath?)
Assumptions, assumptions.:no:

[Lamar Doom]

Worst post from you I've ever seen.


likewise

[shlver]

likewise
I was expressing my opinion, while you were just showing that you are a dumbass.

[Lamar Doom]

I was expressing my opinion, while you were just showing that you are a dumbass.

your opinion proves you're a dumbass.

[Lamar Doom]

I wouldn't go as far as to kill the gay little freak, but I would disown him and see what legal action could be taken in regards to having his last name changed to something other than my own.


This.


dumb. ass.

[shlver]

your opinion proves you're a dumbass.
:oldlol: How can opinions prove anything? Your logic is really screwed dude.

[AmoebaD]

tehehehehe

[shlver]

dumb. ass.
Yes gays are freaks. :confusedshrug:Opinion.
You like gays? That's your opinion. Does that make you a dumbass in my view? No.

[Lamar Doom]

:oldlol: How can opinions prove anything? Your logic is really screwed dude.

I don't want to get into a semantics argument with you. My point was simply that you are a weak minded idiot. Go get cracking on that 6th read of the bible.

[shlver]

I don't want to get into a semantics argument with you. My point was simply that you are a weak minded idiot. Go get cracking on that 6th read of the bible.
You don't want to get in one because you'll lose. That's your opinion.:confusedshrug:
I'm already at it.:cheers:

[MarloStanfield]

Yes gays are freaks. :confusedshrug:Opinion.
You like gays? That's your opinion. Does that make you a dumbass in my view? No.
you're a big time dumbass

why don't you go pray for our sins you f*cking sheep.

[IcanzIIravor]

The thing is for 1, I don't even know what gods you worship. I worship one God, and the Bible I read and follow to the best of my ability states He told us to be fruitful and multiple. So being a homosexual goes completely the opposite of that.

Now in regards to your comment above, even if you do view both sins as equal, as I was trying to point out, once the straight person gets married from that point onward they are no longer sinning when having sex with their spouse. Since gay people cannot be married, they are actually committing two sins... both lying with another of the same sex, and having sex out of marriage, and they will be doing so for the rest of their lives as they can never be married.

And finally in regards to your last comment, I was born in Brooklyn, and been living in Miami for 20+ years. I've been brought up in two of the most diverse environments in the US. I'm 25, so not so young, and am sure of my faith and what I believe.

Do you follow the literal word of the Bible or cherry pick what to follow and what to dismiss and not follow?

[shlver]

you're a big time dumbass

why don't you go pray for our sins you f*cking sheep.
:oldlol:

[MarloStanfield]

You don't want to get in one because you'll lose. That's your opinion.:confusedshrug:
I'm already at it.:cheers:
LOL all you're able to do is quote some ****ing book that gives you false hope because you're scared to die.

it's really quite pathetic, archaic, sad, and downright retarded that your life revolves around it.

[IcanzIIravor]

:oldlol:

Aren't you taught to hate the sin, but love the sinner?

[shlver]

LOL all you're able to do is quote some ****ing book that gives you false hope because you're scared to die.

it's really quite pathetic, archaic, sad, and downright retarded that your life revolves around it.
:confusedshrug:
I don't believe it's false hope. I look forward to the day I will be in Heaven.

[Lamar Doom]

:confusedshrug:
I don't believe it's false hope. I look forward to the day I will be in Heaven.

how old are you?

[shlver]

Aren't you taught to hate the sin, but love the sinner?
Yes, but sinners are sinners and if they continue, then what can we do but not associate with them.
Romans 12:2
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Hebrews 7:26
For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;

[shlver]

how old are you?
18.

[Juggernaut_V2.0]

Sounds to me like you're going through the "everything's religion's fault!" phase that nearly every closed-minded bigot goes through.

Now how the fcuk did you come up with that conclusion? Because I pointed out that a lot of the problems in the world boil down to religion? That, you wally, is a fact. There's no 2 ways about it.

I have been brought up a Catholic but I don't practise it as much as I should. I probably should go to mass more (I haven't been in approx 7 years) but then again, why should I go and get all this bullcrap shoved down my gob when I have already spent 12 years in school getting it drummed into my head. I'm old enough and mature enough to make my own decisions in life and don't need to listen to the words of a man in a white dress to tell me how to live my life. I don't care much for religion and i'm not a great believer in it. But what I do believe in is Karma, the whole what goes around comes around stuff.

Care to explain how this classifies me as being a closed minded bigot??

[AmoebaD]

hey jug, how are you?

do you think you can change your avatar now, you obviously showed me who is the coolest. thanks.

[Juggernaut_V2.0]

18.

This, folks, is a closet case if ever i've seen one! :oldlol: Come on out ya big fruit ye!

I was really expecting you turn around and say you were in your 50's....LMAO!! You need to get out more kid.

[Lamar Doom]

18, he'll grow out of it

[Juggernaut_V2.0]

hey jug, how are you?

do you think you can change your avatar now, you obviously showed me who is the coolest. thanks.

Sorry lad, I kept meaning to do it earlier when I wa son but I forgot. I'll change it now. Any craic with ye?

[shlver]

This, folks, is a closet case if ever i've seen one! :oldlol: Come on out ya big fruit ye!

I was really expecting you turn around and say you were in your 50's....LMAO!! You need to get out more kid.
:oldlol: There can't be young Christians?

[RaininTwos]

Turn down the hostility here.

[shlver]

18, he'll grow out of it
I hope not.
Romans 8:38-39
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

[beasted86]

I'm straight but i don't want to have kids, am I in trouble? 5% of the population not being able to procreate (with each other, they still have the seed and egg if they choose to make babies outside their partnerships) will never affect growth of humanity.


What exactly does that have do with moral standing? Seems you are trying to make a literal argument for............ heck, I don't even know what you're getting at.



So if gay people get married they're only breaking the "lying with another of the same sex" sin rule? (snickers)

But they can't be married, atleast not with the blessing of a Catholic church. What if pigs could fly? Would that make them Kosher? :oldlol:Why do you keep bringing up these pointless comments or questions?


I'm sorry man, I know I'm being aggressive and insulting towards you but I don't understand how a 25 year old man in 2009 can have such archaic views and put it on god. You really think the omnipotent god of love and creation thinks homosexuality is evil? That's what your heart tells you?
No need to apologize. I'm not one of these people who backpeddles, or has a weak conviction in what they believe, or is unsure on how they interpret the role of their reliegion in their lives.

So to recap:
1) As I said from the start being gay is not normal, it is a biological flaw
2) In regards to the OP, I would accept him because he's my son, and using my background of religion, God teaches us love & patience
3) Just because I would accept a son, or family member, or regular people I interact with everyday as being gay, and treat them respect, etc... doesn't mean I approve of their lifestyle or believe it's only a minor moral issue in regards to my faith

I'm not someone who thinks all gay people should burn in hell, etc... it's just based off my beliefs it is, and will always be wrong IMO. But, similar to sex before marriage, etc... I'd hope it's a venial sin, and something that can be purified through Purgatory.

[IcanzIIravor]

Yes, but sinners are sinners and if they continue, then what can we do but not associate with them.
Romans 12:2
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Hebrews 7:26
For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;

You follow the literal word of the Bible?

[shlver]

You follow the literal word of the Bible?
I try to, but I can't because we are all sinners.

[RaininTwos]

I try to, but I can't because we are all sinners.
Speak for your self. Tim Tebow is no sinner, he's perfect.

[IcanzIIravor]

I try to, but I can't because we are all sinners.

So you pick and choose what to follow or what? Or do you try to follow it, but sometimes forget? You've read the entire Bible I'm going to assume.

[Juggernaut_V2.0]

So you pick and choose what to follow or what? Or do you try to follow it, but sometimes forget? You've read the entire Bible I'm going to assume.

5 times apprently...

[i seen hippos]

So you pick and choose what to follow or what? Or do you try to follow it, but sometimes forget? You've read the entire Bible I'm going to assume.

I'm sure this is all leading up to like the coolest p[wna]ge ever like right? I mean that is what you are doing, like right? Rock on!:rockon:

[RaininTwos]

5 times apprently...
Are you gay? I remember someone saying they are gay on here, I just dont remember who.

[shlver]

So you pick and choose what to follow or what? Or do you try to follow it, but sometimes forget? You've read the entire Bible I'm going to assume.
What do you mean by pick and choose? I try to follow everything that applies to us today.
Romans 3:23-25
3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

[Juggernaut_V2.0]

Are you gay? I remember someone saying they are gay on here, I just dont remember who.

Aye, that's me.

[RaininTwos]

Aye, that's me.
You for real? Because a lot of people joke around here.

[Juggernaut_V2.0]

A women or man who has sex out of marriage sinned every time she had sex until she got married, a person who lives a homosexual life sinned their whole life. Do you see a difference?

So when I become impotent, does that mean that's when i'll stop sinning?

[Juggernaut_V2.0]

You for real? Because a lot of people joke around here.

I'm not joking. Have you not seen the post I made a few pages back? I wouldn't have wasted my time writing all that if I was only joking!:oldlol:

[RaininTwos]

I'm not joking. Have you not seen the post I made a few pages back? I wouldn't have wasted my time writing all that if I was only joking!:oldlol:
Nah, I am sorry. I am going to read it now. Or maybe later.

[IcanzIIravor]

I'm sure this is all leading up to like the coolest p[wna]ge ever like right? I mean that is what you are doing, like right? Rock on!:rockon:

:oldlol:

No I'm just asking because I keep book marked a handy dandy list of do's and don'ts of various religions and I'd like to run down them all to see who is a literalist and who isn't.

[shlver]

:oldlol:

No I'm just asking because I keep book marked a handy dandy list of do's and don'ts of various religions and I'd like to run down them all to see who is a literalist and who isn't.
A list of posters on this site?

[IcanzIIravor]

A list of posters on this site?

Re-read it. Not going after you or anything. Just trying to understand. Religious beliefs are a fascinating subject.

[shlver]

Re-read it. Not going after you or anything. Just trying to understand. Religious beliefs are a fascinating subject.
Oh religions. Misread it.
I'm a Baptist if you want it specific.

[IcanzIIravor]

Oh religions. Misread it.
I'm a Baptist if you want it specific.

Just follow NT law right since their is a new covenant.

[shlver]

When you start stoning people to death who work on Sundays and women who aren't virgins, I'll start considering being gay a sin. Until then, you are nothing more than a hypocrite.
What are you talking about? Are you this ignorant?

[shlver]

Just follow NT law right since their is a new covenant.
Yep.
Don't get me wrong, there are good stuff in the OT. Just the stuff concerning unclean meat, etc.

[AtticusPigeon11]

Oh. My. Phucking. Gawd.

I almost unanimously side with the theists in these type of argumentz, but Shiver is a f*cking disgrace. I've noticed it before in small doses, but it's getting WAY OUT OF LINE.

[Lamar Doom]

he's not really a christian, I believe that he thinks he is, but Jesus would be disgusted with someone saying they'd disown their son and take legal action for him to change his name. pathetic.

[Hawker]

he's not really a christian, I believe that he thinks he is, but Jesus would be disgusted with someone saying they'd disown their son and take legal action for him to change his name. pathetic.

Yep.

shiver=http://www.generationq.net/bm.pix/shirley-phelps~s600x600.jpg

I honestly don't know what I would do if my son was gay...I would just make sure he wasn't flaming out the ass. I certainly wouldn't disown him though. That's pretty much disowning yourself since he is a part of you.

It would certainly be tough at times but there isn't anything you could do about it. I think I could only take it in small doses.

[shlver]

:oldlol: The Bible says otherwise.
Romans 1:26-32
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 28 And even as they did not like to retainh God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
If my son would take Jesus as His personal saviour then yes I would keep him, but if he persisted to be a ****** then yes I would separate myself from him.

[AtticusPigeon11]

Alright, so if he suppressed his natural instincts, refrained from malebutt sex (until he lived on his own), and attended Church on a weekly basis (at least on the surface); you'd fully embrace him as your son?

What, in your opinion, constitutes as fajgot behavior?

Also, would you be willing to accept an Atheist/Jew/Deist into your family if they were heterosexual?

[shlver]

Alright, so if he suppressed his natural instincts, refrained from malebutt sex (until he lived on his own), and attended Church on a weekly basis (at least on the surface); you'd fully embrace him as your son?

What, in your opinion, constitutes as fajgot behavior?

Also, would you be willing to accept an Atheist/Jew/Deist into your family if they were heterosexual?
It's as simple as accepting Jesus as His personal Saviour. If he does that then there is hope and I will try to help him. Going to church doesn't matter as much as accepting Jesus does.
Homosexuality to me as a sin is having **** sex. Attraction might be an issue because of genetic defects but sexual desires can be suppressed.
Yes I would, if I had a chance to spread the Gospel.

[AtticusPigeon11]

Cognitive Dissonance Detected.

[shlver]

Look, I don't go rallying around saying "Kill Gays." "Burn the ******s."
If I had a chance for a homosexual to be saved, I would jump on that. I have gay friends at church who are still struggling with their desires but are trying to control them.

[shlver]

Cognitive Dissonance Detected.
How so?

[Hawker]

Look, I don't go rallying around saying "Kill Gays." "Burn the ******s."
If I had a chance for a homosexual to be saved, I would jump on that. I have gay friends at church who are still struggling with their desires but are trying to control them.

Kinda hard to control having a boner dude.

[shlver]

Kinda hard to control having a boner dude.
You can't control that, but you can control sticking your boner into an anus.

[goldenryan]

You can't control that, but you can control sticking your boner into an anus.
you'll need to ask cantstop about that one.

[AtticusPigeon11]

It's alright shiv, you'll never know about it nor experience the visuals. Your son will lack the respect necessary to share his dearest secrets with you.

I'm just curious as to why you'd be accepting of somebody who doesn't accept Christ into their life, but not someone who does yet does a bit of extracurriculuar, gay activities?

[Hawker]

You can't control that, but you can control sticking your boner into an anus.

That's a bit unfair dude. It's easy to say that when you don't have to deal with it. I'm sure you've *********ed before. It's hard to not act on that boner I'm sure.

[shlver]

It's alright shiv, you'll never know about it nor experience the visuals. Your son will lack the respect necessary to share his dearest secrets with you.

I'm just curious as to why you'd be accepting of somebody who doesn't accept Christ into their life, but not someone who does yet does a bit of extracurriculuar, gay activities?
I would accept both if they accepted Jesus. Sin is all the same before God.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
9

[Don Imus]

Spin: Would you rather have a gay son or a daughter that's a whore? (If you had to chose one)

[IcanzIIravor]

LEV 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Taken literally does that mean homosexuals should be put to death?

[shlver]

That's a bit unfair dude. It's easy to say that when you don't have to deal with it. I'm sure you've *********ed before. It's hard to not act on that boner I'm sure.
It is a sin to think lustful thoughts too which I am also guilty of.
Matthew 5:28
28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
I'm just as much as a sinner as my son as a homosexual, but if he blatantly rejects and continues with his homosexual behaviour I will obey the Word of God.
Matthew 10:37
37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.