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stalkerforlife
08-26-2019, 08:10 PM
https://www.12up.com/posts/video-disturbing-clip-emerges-of-mateen-cleaves-struggling-with-victim-who-accused-him-of-rape-01dk4v4kpc53?utm_source=RSS

He drags her back to the hotel room at Knights Inn on multiple occasions after she tries to run away.

The video was not allowed to be released until after the verdict.

Knights Inn? Damn, that's sad for a former NBA player.

I'm thinking crack was involved.

stalkerforlife
08-26-2019, 08:17 PM
The video looks bad.

BUT I think he was trying to save her from herself.

She may have been cracked out and just running away naked inexplicably.

Maybe he refused her more crack.

Shogon
08-26-2019, 08:18 PM
How the **** was he found not guilty? What the ****? Did they need the penetration on video tape?

They have eye witness testimony and video evidence of him physically forcing her to stay.

I would like to know what else happened with this case for them to get to that verdict.

Jameerthefear
08-26-2019, 08:21 PM
https://www.12up.com/posts/video-disturbing-clip-emerges-of-mateen-cleaves-struggling-with-victim-who-accused-him-of-rape-01dk4v4kpc53?utm_source=RSS

He drags her back to the hotel room at Knights Inn on multiple occasions after she tries to run away.

The video was not allowed to be released until after the verdict.

Knights Inn? Damn, that's sad for a former NBA player.

I'm thinking crack was involved.
Legit almost choked reading this :roll: :roll:

stalkerforlife
08-26-2019, 08:22 PM
How the **** was he found not guilty? What the ****? Did they need the penetration on video tape?

They have eye witness testimony and video evidence of him physically forcing her to stay.

I would like to know what else happened with this case for them to get to that verdict.

IMO, the witness testifying that the woman asked for help was more damning.

Women are absolutely nuts and they will do anything to get what they want or hurt a man.

I think either drugs were involved and or she thought he was faithful to her and had just got done looking through his phone.

She may have conjured up the entire thing by barely trying to get away on video and then claiming rape later; for revenge or a civil suit.

stalkerforlife
08-26-2019, 08:23 PM
Legit almost choked reading this :roll: :roll:

I'm a broke loser and not even I could stay at a Knights Inn

Roach and bed bug infested crack whore house.

Meticode
08-26-2019, 09:01 PM
It's sad to see a former NBA player that made over $5 million in his career earnings basically sexually assaulting women at motels forcing them against their will. No doubt that woman was probably high or drunk or something, but it does not make it right.

I cannot believe this has been an on-going case for almost four ****ing years. When there's video evidence of it. Here's the Wikipedia article for it...


In October 2015, Cleaves was investigated for his role in an alleged sexual assault. Cleaves was accused of taking a 24-year-old woman to a motel in Mundy Township, on September 15, 2015, keeping her against her will and sexually assaulting her.[6] He was released on a $150,000 personal bond. The case was handled by Wayne County because Genesee County Prosecutor David Leyton had a conflict of interest.[7][8]

On December 5, 2016, despite video evidence of his victim running away multiple times and him dragging her back into the room, all charges against Cleaves were dismissed. Prosecutors promptly appealed. On April 10, 2017, Genesee Circuit Court Judge Archie L. Hayman ruled that District Court Judge M. Cathy Dowd abused her discretion in finding no probable cause that Cleaves committed a crime, remanding the case to district court and ordering it bound over for a jury trial. On May 16, 2017, Cleaves' attorneys appealed the decision to the Michigan Court of Appeals, arguing that Judge Hayman "ignored the evidence of the case."[9] On August 1, 2017, it was announced three Michigan Court of Appeals judges denied Cleaves' request to review a judge's decision to reinstate sexual assault charges against him.[10] On January 4, 2018, it was announced that the Michigan Supreme Court declined to review a judge's decision to reinstate sexual assault charges against Cleaves. In August 2019, the case returned to county court for trial,[11] and on August 20, 2019, Cleaves was acquitted of all charges. A video published on the Internet shows the woman attempting to resist him as he pulls her back to the hotel room.[12]

Kblaze8855
08-26-2019, 09:11 PM
I'm a broke loser and not even I could stay at a Knights Inn

Roach and bed bug infested crack whore house.


I once had a room in a Knights Inn in Jackson Tennessee I think. A while lady casually used the word "******" in front of me and a black woman I was with and there was nearly an incident. She was standing in the doorway smoking when it was said to her....about another person the white ladies story was centered on. When I heard it I expected tempers to flare so I slid back in to put on my shoes just in case and the woman I was with came in behind me upset as if id retreated from the situation.

I didnt retreat...it was raining....I went to get my shoes so I wouldnt have wet feet after breaking up this fight in the Knights inn parking lot.

StrongLurk
08-26-2019, 09:20 PM
I once had a room in a Knights Inn in Jackson Tennessee I think. A while lady casually used the word "******" in front of me and a black woman I was with and there was nearly an incident. She was standing in the doorway smoking when it was said to her....about another person the white ladies story was centered on. When I heard it I expected tempers to flare so I slid back in to put on my shoes just in case and the woman I was with came in behind me upset as if id retreated from the situation.

I didnt retreat...it was raining....I went to get my shoes so I wouldnt have wet feet after breaking up this fight in the Knights inn parking lot.

This post is completely made up.

Kblaze8855
08-26-2019, 09:25 PM
No. It was not. Turns out it wasn

Jameerthefear
08-26-2019, 10:10 PM
This post is completely made up.
i've been to jackson i believe him lol

Mr Feeny
08-27-2019, 01:25 AM
This post is completely made up.

And how exactly would you know that?

MrFonzworth
08-27-2019, 01:35 AM
The witness isnt reliable as she's clearly a crackhead. He was probably trying to save her from getting raped, a broad cant be walking around light at night with just a bra on.

EllEffEll
08-27-2019, 10:15 AM
One of the juries I have been on was a case regarding a woman that had rolled her SUV on a dirt road and then walked home. When the sheriffs were on the way to investigate (someone had called it in), they noticed the woman kind of staggering along the road, but felt they needed to check the crash. When they got there, there was no one around.

They went to the address that was on the registration and there was the woman they had seen staggering along the road and she appeared to be intoxicated, so they took her in and tested her and she was legally intoxicated so a drunk driving charge was filed against her.

At the trial, she maintained that she started drinking after she got home, and her account of what she drank and when matched up with what the prosecution's evidence of her blood alcohol level. She provided enough evidence that the charge of DUI could not be proven beyond a reasonable doubt so we found her not guilty based on the evidence provided.

I ran into her in public a few times over the years, and every time she was visibly drunk and reeked of alcohol.

In retrospect, my gut tells me she was probably drunk when she rolled her SUV, but she had a good lawyer that knew how to calculate what it would take to match her blood alcohol level when it was measured, and it was a possibility that she didn't start drinking until after she got home (allegedly to ease the pain of a broken tooth suffered in the accident) and juries are instructed to only consider the evidence presented at trial.

I'm not sure why the video wasn't able to be presented at the trial, but in hindsight it does make one feel that justice was not likely served in this case.

tl/dr version: Based on my personal experience, juries don't always get all the pertinent info so I could see how this could happen.

E_Stamkos
08-27-2019, 10:31 AM
Knight's Inn! lol

jayfan
08-27-2019, 10:47 AM
Yes, the video looks bad.

But the case was thrown out by a judge for lacking probable cause to go forward in 2016. Then, after the state won it's appeal (probable cause is a low standard) and got the case reinstated, a jury finds not guilty at trial.

It's clear that there were problems with the case.

If the video was excluded at trial, there was a significant reason why. Especially considering the procedural history of the case. And the video likely was available to the judge who dismissed in 2016. All evidence has to be taken in context - even evidence that appears damning in a vacuum.

305Baller
08-27-2019, 02:27 PM
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Manny98
08-27-2019, 05:46 PM
This is why us black men shouldn't be messing with these white women :facepalm