2016 Finals was bad basketball.

[DoctorP]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgVOgGLtPtc

This is the worst brand of basketball you can really watch. Shitty sets, bad shooting. You have two supposedly "best in world" players (LeBron, Curry) out there bricking left and right. ANd it wasn't until Kyrie finally came through with a basket that the Warriors completely imploded. Where was that famous motion offense, Golden State? ARe the players that tired? WHere's the coaching?

AH, just let em play streetball then?

Bad basketball on the grand stage. No wonder people think it's rigged.

/endrant

[superduper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgVOgGLtPtc

This is the worst brand of basketball you can really watch. Shitty sets, bad shooting. You have two supposedly "best in world" players out there bricking left and right. ANd it wasn't until Kyrie finally came through with a basket that the Warriors completely imploded. Where was that motion offense, Golden State? ARe the players that tired? WHere's the coaching?

AH, just let em play streetball then?

Bad basketball on the grand stage. No wonder people think it's rigged.

/endrant

Yeah it was either rigged or Kerr has some low ass IQ.

[Mr Feeny]

I think everyone just went cold. I'm not sure what happened. It wasnt particularly good defense either. Everyone was just....missing. There was a lot on the line and maybe nerves took over.

5 consecutive minutes or whatever it was without a single point by either team was...weird.

[lilteapot]

You do realize Kyrie also bricked during that span? And his brick lead to the chasedown block. so i guess you could say Lebron saved Kyrie.

['Toine=MVP]

Bad basketball, yes. But this whole era is full of bad basketball.

Some notes: Curry always gets exposed on biggest stage. At least they stopped giving Harrison Barnes shots at that point. And LeBron wasn't bad. Great chase down block. Got fouled early but no call. Came up short on a close range shot but it was a good look at least.

This was not some kind of epic victory for LeBron and the Cavs despite what some claim, but LeBron was pretty solid down the stretch.

[SouBeachTalents]

So 4 minutes is an indictment of 7 full games, 336 minutes of basketball :oldlol:

Game 7 of the Finals are usually like that, '05 & '10 were even uglier than that

[Mr Feeny]

Bad basketball, yes. But this whole era is full of bad basketball.

Some notes: Curry always gets exposed on biggest stage. At least they stopped giving Harrison Barnes shots at that point. And LeBron wasn't bad. Great chase down block. Got fouled early but no call. Came up short on a close range shot but it was a good look at least.

This was not some kind of epic victory for LeBron and the Cavs despite what some claim, but LeBron was pretty solid down the stretch.

Yeah he was just cold. And I'm glad we didnt hear more people harp about him "choking" down the stretch because otherwise, everyone in that entire game choked other than Irving. They all just lost their offensive rhythm. Atleast he played defense at that point. If your offense is completely out of sync, then you can contribute in other ways.

[tpols]

The motion offense fell apart when Harrison Barnes was shooting 3/51 from the field and the Cavs basically could double team klay and curry at will. Their centers were also garbage after bogut got hurt ezeli and speights have been total flops since so they were basically playing 3v5.

[Mr Feeny]

The motion offense fell apart when Harrison Barnes was shooting 3/51 from the field and the Cavs basically could double team klay and curry at will. Their centers were also garbage after bogut got hurt ezeli and speights have been total flops since so they were basically playing 3v5.Still doesn't explain some of the stupid shots they take. Curry took some odd ill-advised shots that clanked. But hey you're a Kobe fan. You'd know all about awful shot selection and poor shooting:lol

[scuzzy]

The motion offense fell apart when Harrison Barnes was shooting 3/51 from the field and the Cavs basically could double team klay and curry at will. Their centers were also garbage after bogut got hurt ezeli and speights have been total flops since so they were basically playing 3v5.

Poor Curry, gotta have that 4th option Barnes playing like a 2016 Olympian to match the firepower of Tristan Thompson and Iman Shumpert


Love 8.5ppg 35%
Barnes 9.3ppg 35%


:oldlol:

[superduper]

Poor Curry, gotta have that 4th option Barnes playing like a 2016 Olympian to match the firepower of Tristan Thompson and Iman Shumpert


Love 8.5ppg 35%
Barnes 9.3ppg 35%


:oldlol:

Now compare 2nd option numbers :yaohappy:

[scuzzy]

Now compare 2nd option numbers :yaohappy:

Yep, not only did Curry shit the bed and get locked up by Kyrie but he also laid an egg on D letting Drew feast


Didn't think he'd actually drop another stink bomb after the 2015 Delly treatment

[superduper]

Yep, not only did Curry shit the bed and get locked up by Kyrie but he also laid an egg on D letting Drew feast


Didn't think he'd actually drop another stink bomb after the 2015 Delly treatment

Huh? Klay was guarding him for a majority of the series.

When you watch basketball on paper :yaohappy:

[warriorfan]

Curry was injured, Klay was being Finals Klay, and LeBron couldn’t score at all in the first four games before the Dray suspension and Bogut/iggy injuries

All that plus the allowed physicality and holding made for some sloppy games. I can understand letting them play but grabbing jerseys is a little much.

[Jameerthefear]

Curry was injured, Klay was being Finals Klay, and LeBron couldn’t score at all in the first four games before the Dray suspension and Bogut/iggy injuries

All that plus the allowed physicality and holding made for some sloppy games. I can understand letting them play but grabbing jerseys is a little much.
have sex

[LAmbruh]

have sex
:roll: :roll:

[Wally450]

So 4 minutes is an indictment of 7 full games, 336 minutes of basketball :oldlol:

Game 7 of the Finals are usually like that, '05 & '10 were even uglier than that

This. I would've hopped aboard if it were something that showed bad basketball throughout the series, but the last 4 minutes doesn't do justice of bad basketball.

As another poster mentioned, watch the last 5 minutes of the 2010 Finals. Yikes. I'm a Celtics fan too.

[DoctorP]

Just watched the last quarter of the 2010 Finals to compare. It was a low scoring game but the Celtics are clearly running plays and getting scores. Kobe is just playing iso-ball and bricking much of his shots. The level of incompetence was nowhere near 2016 levels. Curry killed Golden State with his shot selection.

[Uncle Drew]

The 2016 Finals were the greatest sports event ever shown to mankind, as well as the greatest championship in the history of the NBA.

[aj1987]

The motion offense fell apart when Harrison Barnes was shooting 3/51 from the field and the Cavs basically could double team klay and curry at will. Their centers were also garbage after bogut got hurt ezeli and speights have been total flops since so they were basically playing 3v5.
You still clinging onto that Bogut narrative? From one of my previous posts, which was actually a reply to you:

#1 - Bogut played a total of 12 minutes a game.
#2 - Bogut played in ONE 4th Q and GSW were leading by 20+
#3 - Game 5, when Bogut was playing, LeBron scored 25 (the first half)
#4 - Bogut was a net negative in the Finals

Yeah, even with a healthy Bogut, the Cavs weren't losing. The Cavs also do not win without Love. Love was more important to the Cavs than Bogut was to the Warriors. The Warriors could've still won, if it wasn't for Ezeli's foul, Curry's retarded behind the back pass, and a plethora of bricks in the clutch in G7. Again, WITHOUT Bogut. The Cavs don't

Even if we exclude the game in which Bogut was injured, dude was averaging 3 rebounds a game. Now we're acting like he was a rebounding monster? Laughable. Also, Warriors got out rebounded in Games 1 & 3. WITH a HEALTHY Bogut. Funny how you forgot to mention that part.

Bogut missed 12 games in the RS and the Warriors went 11-1 in those games. The one loss coming against the Spurs, in a game in which Curry and Klay played like dog shit. Bogut was also a net negative in games 1, 3, 4, and 5. His minutes also fell significantly in the Finals. He played more minutes in the first 3 rounds in the WC.

If we go back to the previous season, Bogut BARELY played in the '15 Finals. The Cavs were crushing the Warriors with Bogut in the lineup and it pretty much reversed, when he was done.

So yeah, the Warriors small ball lineup >> their lineup with Bogut in it. Bogut's injury wasn't the reason Warriors lost.

[Mr Feeny]

Just watched the last quarter of the 2010 Finals to compare. It was a low scoring game but the Celtics are clearly running plays and getting scores. Kobe is just playing iso-ball and bricking much of his shots. The level of incompetence was nowhere near 2016 levels. Curry killed Golden State with his shot selection.

He had a few odd plays. At the 5 minute mark,he threw a pass behind his back out of bounds. On the penultimate play, he had Love on an isolation and chose to take a deep 3.

[SouBeachTalents]

Just watched the last quarter of the 2010 Finals to compare. It was a low scoring game but the Celtics are clearly running plays and getting scores. Kobe is just playing iso-ball and bricking much of his shots. The level of incompetence was nowhere near 2016 levels. Curry killed Golden State with his shot selection.
The Celtics offense was ABYSMAL in the 2nd half of that game. Through a nearly 12 minute stretch, from the 3 minute mark of the 3rd through the first 8 minutes of the 4th, the Celtics made TWO baskets :oldlol: They went 2/13 in that time frame with 4 turnovers

[DoctorP]

The Celtics offense was ABYSMAL in the 2nd half of that game. Through a nearly 12 minute stretch, from the 3 minute mark of the 3rd through the first 8 minutes of the 4th, the Celtics made TWO baskets :oldlol: They went 2/13 in that time frame with 4 turnovers


Yeah, I'm sure the Lakers frontline had a lot to do with that but the Celtics were running offensive plays and had a semblance of organization down the stretch of the game. Can't really say the same for '16

[DoctorP]

He had a few odd plays. At the 5 minute mark,he threw a pass behind his back out of bounds. On the penultimate play, he had Love on an isolation and chose to take a deep 3.

My conclusion is that Curry is even less clutch than LeBron.

[Vino24]

MJ won chips shooting 40%

['Toine=MVP]

[QUOTE=Vino24]MJ won chips shooting 40%

[LAmbruh]

They played this thing called defense back then. Rules and they way they were enforced prevented the scrimmage atmosphere of today's NBA. That 2016 Warriors teams gets taken out in the 1st round in the 90s.
the likes of Hornacek, Stark and Ehlo's defense was so tenacious Stern was forced to shorten the 3pt line

:yaohappy:

[Mr Feeny]

My conclusion is that Curry is even less clutch than LeBron.

It sounds harsh, but I agree. He has had extenuating circumstances but still has almost invariably underperformed in the biggest moments.

[Vino24]

the likes of Hornacek, Stark and Ehlo's defense was so tenacious Stern was forced to shorten the 3pt line

:yaohappy:
:roll:

[305Baller]

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